The NBA Media’s Hate of International Players…
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- The NBA Media’s Hate of International Players…
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Joel Embiid, Luka Doncic. Nikola Jokic, and Giannis Antetokounmpo are all international NBA players. Two of them have won back to back MVP awards, but all these players catch constant disrespect from the NBA media despite making up the NBA's top 7 players currently. From Colin Cowherd disrespecting Embiid, to Luka pre draft takes by Max Kellerman, Stephen A Smith, and Skip Bayless that were just awful, to the hateful comments by Nick Wright to Jokic, and of course the Giannis disrespect saying he can't be the face of the league because he isn't American! This is xenophobia in the NBA media that has to stop (because Victor Wembenyama is on his way!)
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Giannis just ain't relateable enough folks, he's only a loyal, kind hearted, funny, hardworking, family first man who worked his way out of poverty. How can you expect anybody to truely empathise with him.
even less to imagine, any sports commentator wouldn't be intimidated
Ye but it happened in Greece so it doesnt count
I mean.. you are completely right when compared to these morally bankrupt individuals
hahahaha lol so true
USA media LOVES trainwreck personalities and highly political (left wing) athletes like
Colin Kaepernick, even if he sucks at his sport and hasn't played in serious league since his mid 20s.
When Luka was in his draft process, I heard a lot of ppl say "Europe isn't the NBA" (and rightfully so) but as soon as Luka started becoming a great player and MVP candidate, the talk became "He's used to this, he played in Europe" it doesn't add up. 🤦🏿♂️
Lol crazy how fast they switch
Hahaha facts 🤣🤣 they changed to now” he’s been playing since 16” lmao you weren’t saying that at the beginning.
Yup, somehow they use it to discredit him too. Implying that the only reason he looks better than others in his draft class is because Europe prepared him for the NBA. Like, so what? He doesn't just look good compared to his draft class, he looks great compared to players that have been in the league for twice as long.
Yes
And saying that he cheated the process playing pro and not going to college
Honestly has luke won anything
The xenophobia in the nba is well documented at this point and Adam silver and the nba really should call out these media personnel because they’ve been trying to branch out and make the nba a global brand and xenophobia hurts that message
It is becoming more undeniable for them though which is good. Like Embiid, Giannis, Jokic have been so dominant they have to vote for them in MVP race. And with Victor Wembanyama coming in this league is becoming more and more international. At some point they have to stop denying it, at least I hope lol
they want the sport to become international but hate on the talent coming from overseas
It's not that they dont want FORIEGN PLAYERS, it's that FOREIGN PLAYERS aren't as marketable to peeople who aren't foreign, which is most NBA FANS.
@@princeluke6340 Whether or not they are marketable has to do with how the media portrays them. If you have journalists saying stupid things or not even naming you, it is obvious that it will be difficult for the people of the United States to see them as the stars that they are. The media for most are the bridge between their homes and reality, and not all of us take the bother to do our own research
@@nothgu so basically they want their money not their talent.
Giannis is not only a beast on the court. He's a great representation for the league. Blows my mind how they slander him constantly
They say what their audience wanna listen. If they didn't talk shit about some players they would barely been known.
@@trakkadda if the whole world love you there is only one way to stand out
Rationalization is the second strongest human drive
He's a freak on the court and in the sheets 😈
Bro this comment cant be a day old… Freak is universally considered the best player and I’m team goat James
Joel Embiid is still "respected" among the American players and in the media because he embraced the Amercian culture, uses social media and seeks recognition from his peers. Jokic and Giannis don't care about that so the other local stars are "afraid" of them.
Yeah imagine that... To be accepted, you have to become one of these histerical social network fuckups, clash with everyone, be toxic as fuck... That's their "normality". We are doomed.
I mean giannis uses social media and stuff, he did reject the whole big market, super team thing though so maybe that’s it
@@finn54123 the entire world uses social media but it is not centered on American culture
True
Facts
The US media quickly went from "Europe is nothing compared to the NBA" to "but he's been playing against pros since he was 13, he's advantaged"! Like any 13yo american kid could cut it in the Euroleague. Reminds me of Shaq claiming any 7 footer in the streets can be Rudy Gobert.
Any 7'1'' with 340 lbs and solid vertical can be Shaq...this is how stupid that statement is
Right. What they fail to understand is that Doncic didn’t become great because he was pro before becoming an adult, but he became a pro that early because he was that great. Literally touted as the wonder boy for most of his life yet some Americans want to act like you can just put any 16 year old in euro league and they’ll improve.
Nah. Not “Europe is nothing compared to the NBA.” /
@@bokaboka4675 "7'1'' with 340 lbs and solid vertical can be Shaq" and this is why you failed highschool
I love how Perk was saying Jokić cant be in the conversation because his team wasnt winning at that time but was saying Curry should have won the MVP in 2021 where he didnt even make the playoffs. That tells you everything
Yup!
I remember some idiots saying that too then I asked why does jokic lead in every other stat other than points for that season and wins more games shouldn’t be the mvp? Their answer jokic isn’t as popular as curry biggest bs I’ve ever seen.
Well spotted. Double standards at their best.
Don’t even get me started on him saying “when are the American superstars going to win the trophy?”
Perkins a Black Racist.....
Jokic is a Monster..,. Perkins SUCKED..... Compared to Jokic
Perkin's Got No Game.....
It's funny he SUCKED so Bad
....
"You cant be mvp if they cant pronounce your last name" how did homeboy not lose his job after that?
Crazy!
Acho is Nigerian too. He just has a four letter name and a brother that was also in the NFL 🙃 but yeah that’s super messed up to say
That take about Luka not being able to handle ball pressure is insane. Euro basketball literally has rules that make defending easier and he played in that system since he was 16 against grown ass men.
16 playing pro ball is insane!
@@WillSoTrill
Not.
Play at starter with 17 with a Eurobaskte and Euroleague contender is insane
@@WalterModel45 just for comparison how great that is. Dirk was drafted as 2nd league player in germany ( i am pretty sure at that time that didnt even count as professional player). Doncic was the MVP of the 2nd best league in the world and ppl still said he didnt have what it takes to play in the NBA its crazy to me.
When you hear the segments it's beyond clear that they haven't watched a single game of him.
I think you got it the other way round. The NBA has rules that make offense much easier.
“You can’t be the face of the NBA if they can’t even pronounce your last name”.
Good thing Giannis has fallen into that echelon of guys that everyone refers to by their first name or their nickname because he’s that fucking good then, eh? Lol
People still misspronounce Giannis today is the sad fact and it's just 2 syllables
The dude doesn't care if he's the face of the Nba or not. But we all know that he is
That's why they had to create the name "Greek Freak"
Giannis is easier to say but if your name doesn't have a certain ring to it is hard to be the face the NBA will lose popularity if name isn't marketable but he's definitely a top 3 to 5 player in the league
Who cares abt face of league I rather be best player in league
I remember Steven A Smith running his mouth how nba misses on great white players, and than pointed out international ones don't count. The most racist comment made on ESPN probably ever, now imagine that somebody made a point that in soccer there haven't been black elite player in long time, and africans don't count? That guy would be cancelled out of existence ( for good reason)
Sheesh what a take by him
Listen to people like Chuck and Shaq when Yao was about to come to the NBA. It was a racism onslaught.
He's racist as f***, Stephen A Smith said Ohtani can't be the face of baseball cuz he don't speak English.
@@bmsuperstar1 What did they say?
@@SuperThisen they were ultra racist. And funny thing was, Yao was ultra dominant from day one lol
Xenophobia is a big problem, but I think a big part of the disrespect Doncic and Jokic get is their body type. People have a bias to think of athletes as fast, muscular, etc., so when something doesn't conform to that bias, they refuse to believe it. A lot of people have trouble accepting examples when skill > athleticism.
Not that I want to defend these xenophobic morons, but talking about athleticism... The way that word is used schould be really looked at as they are not as athletic like most of the guys they are competing against but for sure more athletic than most of us "normal" people. I actually hope, that's they mean to say, haha.
Like the Athlete Perk is! He built those muscles working out at Mickey D's
You forgot to mention that they’re white. That’s a HUGE part of this. American players think they can coast just because we used to dominate. They’re being out worked by the Europeans, every day from the age of 12.
If Jokic had the same muscle definition and body percentage as AD a lot of people would have a totally different perception of him
Also. people associate lean muscle mass with athleticism. I know a lot of flabby people that can move and a lot of lean people that can't and vice versa. Just because you look athletic doesn't make you athletic and there is more to athletics than speed and power.
MVP candidates: Giannis (Greece), Luka (Slovenia), Joker (Serbia), Embiid (Cameroon). Also they keep going about the Dream Team making basketball known abroad, which is so wrong!!! Magic, Kareem, Doctor J and Bird made the world more familiar with the NBA in the early ’80s, but before that we already had a huge basketball fan base and leagues in Italy, Spain, Greece, Yugoslavia, USSR, Brazil, Argentina, etc...Basketball was already very popular in the ‘60s in lots of countries!!!
Of course
Actually basketball was more popular at those days than now xd
@@WalterModel45 100%
For basketball Embiib is french now (I am so happy)
@@WalterModel45 why do you non Americans act so snobbish nba was not popular to foreigns until yao ming
@@wussrestbrook1200 what
as an european NBA fan I agree with all of your takes,and it's really nice that now a lot of people are now calling out the media
Jokic to me is especially disrespected. Just because he’s not super “athletic” does not mean he isn’t the best player in basketball. Idiots say his team not doing well is his failure, ignoring his complete lack of hep last year. No player ever has been able to do what Jokic does. He’s probably the most complete offensive player of all time. And defensively he is well above average, far from the liability people pretend he is.
Statistically Jokić was among the best defenders in the league last season. Ignorant jackasses who don't in actuality watch his games call him a liability. The guy is not a terrific rim protector, but he's an excellent defender.
@@bmsuperstar1 lol nope box plus minus this year is so low he’s 18th among centers who started in the playoffs
defensive rating is horrible during the playoffs
@@AC2k14GOD So? Was he the MVP of playoffs? NO!!!
He was regular season's MVP because he had the best numbers in the history of basketball.
Statistically he had a historically significant season. That's not a matter of opinion. It's just the way things are.
Plus he did all that without two of his best players in the team that's not anything special even when they are there.
Plus he can actually play and provide for an entire season.
You have nothing, nothing to take away from his season. All you can do is cry like the rest of haters.
Fat white boy is the MVP two years in a row on brain power alone. That's gotta hurt.
@@bmsuperstar1 why you hurt he gets exposed by great teams in the playoffs?
regular season barely matters and his playoffs advanced stats is literally gives you an idea how overrated he is
even his best highlight is him getting cooked by Steph to seal the game
@@bmsuperstar1 there’s a reason why in his 2 MVP seasons he hasnt touched the Finals
Giannis is the superstar that executives dream about. He's great on court, represents working class values, excellent work ethic, team oriented, has good interactions with fans off court, comes off as genuine and likeable. There's seemingly so much positive stuff going on with Giannis, you'd be mad to not want him as the face of the NBA. Any organization would love to have representation like that. Giannis is a walking ambassador to the sport and he's probably an inspiration to more than just Americans, but on a global level.
He also doesn't get 1/10th of the hate that Jokic and Doncic get. I don't even know why Giannis is being brought up, other than to try and divert attention away from anti-white racism by trying to make it a "xenophobia" issue. Wake me up when Giannis and Embiid and Wemby get significant hate from the usual suspects who are always bashing Jokic and Luka.. people like Kendrick Perkins, Nick Wright, Gilbert Arenas, Shannon Sharp, Skip Bayless, Sheryl Swoops, or any of the other racists that litter the sports media these days.
I've stopped watching those "analysts", instead I come to yt and watch what people who really care about basketball have to say about certain topic or a player. I may not agree every time, but I have alot of respect for what you guys do.
Exactly 👏
Aye thank you man! (Most of us) try to keep it real haha
yeah they are beyond crazy, i also avoid them almost entirely for channels like this one
i watch analysts to see how crazy they are today. Mostly i watch shannon and skip and its always fun to see them move the goalpoast for certain players.
You guys remember the way America treated 4 rings finals mvp Tony Parker?
Absolutely delusional Americans
It's been 5 years since an American won MVP. Giannis, 19 and 20, Jokic 21 and 22. That's what they're worried about. Next up is Luka
I agree luka going win mvp multiple mvps giannias going win more to and jokic going win another and embif going win one
they're not worried about it at all. The US C team with basically no preparation still won the 2020 Olympic gold medal
@@AW-zk5qb oh really? a country with 350 million people is beating tiny countries. amazing. hang that banner! :D
Damn... Saying Luka shouldn't be number 1 is understandable, a mistake but understandable but saying he isn't even a lottery pick is disrespectful
Even though Jeremy Lin was born in the U.S., this is a big reason why the NBA failed him.
He was most definitely seen as an outsider and a foreigner, and thus was “boycotted”…
I hate it.
Jeremy Lin is a good example of the bullshit American keep putting out. We do not hate Chinese people, just certain government.
11:57 Wow, that is not xenophobia, that is simple and plain racism.
Dirk is top 20 all time, but in his career no big name player wanted to join him(exception of Kobe). It isn't just the media, it exists among the American players as well.
Sall good he still dusted them American boys
Dirk is 2nd best power forward my guy got zero respect his entire career. Mark cuban also ruined the mavs by letting Nash walk....
Pierce is a no name
@@Odiousjimmy after Duncan? Right.
@@Stadionpunainen For sure buddy, both amazing players but Timmys defense stood out. Also playing with the admiral I'm sure helped his development early in his career
the thing about foreign players is that they're always so loyal to their teams that invest in them
no drama. no headlines, they just go out and play basketball.
most of these guys come from less than fortunate backgrounds. they are truly humble and worked very hard for what they get.
the media wants headlines, they want to create controversy and drama
😁👊🏽
Stop acting like the rest of the world lives in wooden huts and shit. It’s just a different culture there and there’s no room for drama queens like the nba
Xenophobia is the only thing keepin college hoops alive as the primary source for the draft
Listening to the Doncic bashing is so satisfying knowing what he has become. Multiple MVPs are on the way and hopefully a championship
Giannis is easy to market. He's loyal to his team, he's an overall good person, and he's debatably the best player in the league right now. Why media hates him is baffling to me.
Not a really impressive game,(is impressive what he can do but not impressive to see or sell), also doesnt have an interesting personality on the court.
He's not a Knick or Laker, that's why
Giannis and Jokic are two European players who came from humble beginnings, now flashy mixtapes, no media hype, and most importantly they were not part of the American system (college etc). They rose due to hard work and ethic, and the American media cannot forgive them that. They have also stayed humble and do not embrace the ''American culture'', are not buddy buddies with other players and they talk through their games, so they generate little to no media attention.
As for Doncic, he is again not a part of their system and they wanted him to fail, in order to prove that European basketball is weak. In the case of Jokic and Doncic there is also some racism involved as we talk about two relatively unathletic white dudes who have taken the league by storm.
This is why the media try to also push the narrative of the next American superstar (zion for example). Cause they cant stand that the best players right now are European and not part of their machine
Are u really pulling the race card? ☠️ 💀 ☠️ I thought liberals in the states were bad, turns out Europeans are even worse. Btw Europeans are overrated cus teams want them for marketing reasons. The same thing happens to Americans footballers
That is a truth right there.
Well said
every Nba star rose due to hard work and ethic
I always laugh at the "athleticism" thing. To me it just means you can jump a bit higher, maybe you're a bit faster.
Athleticism doesn't cover footwork, strength, stamina, and both Jokić and Luka got those in spades.
Both are the strongest physically at their respective positions, they can play for a long freaking time(Jokić even broke some record in that regard while he was still fat), both of their footwork is great, plus they are smarter than any other player in the entire league.
Jokić can run the game on brains alone and he does sometimes, and he's unstoppable while doing it.
They are way, way more tactically and fundamentally sound than 99.9 percent of players in the NBA and they are the living proof you don't need to jump high to play basketball. All you need is a brain.
As a European Nba fan, i can quite see how the xenofobia of Nba media reflects the cultural regression of a US society which is not capable of understanding the rest of the world is starting to overtake them in many categories.
Starting to? Or has already.
I’m a southeast Asian form Malaysia and I can answer that. Is very simple.
The Europeans, Africans, Asians are showing tremendous development in many categories including sports against America’s whites, blacks, yellow, and brown.
While America declines in terms of economic power and influential power (just look at their polarise media and what they’ve done to lose trust of the world for the last two decades). It won’t be long before America has to start listening to the world.
what are you talking about? Europe and the rest of the world are much more racist and the US is the most diverse nation in the world. The "rest of the world" is not overtaking the US. The US still dominates sports, economy, military Nobel Prizes, media, technology, top universities, music, tv, movies etc
@@bgdgdgdf4488 The US is the richest nation in the world, has the strongest military, largest economy, most influential politically, best universities, best sports nation, dominates music, movies, TV shows, top companies, top internet sites, most diverse, immigrant nation, most Nobel Prize winners by far, first nation to put a man on the moon, fought off Germany and Japan and rebuilt Europe through the Marshall Plan, protected Europe from Communism and fought off communist Soviet Union, US gives more foreign aid than any other nation in the world. The US also provides the breakthroughs in much of medicine and technology that Europeans then use, without having created with their system. Europeans are able to live in a peaceful world order where they can spend less on military and focus on their homogenous societies. But that doesn’t happen out of a vacuum. It comes from the Pax Americana the US provided.
@@aizac91 what are you talking about? The US is still by far the most successful sports nation, the largest economy, the strongest military by far, the dominant nation in culture, music, tv, and film, the epicenter of development in technology and companies, has by far the most top universities etc. Even with polarization, the US provides the hard power for liberal democracies, and Russia's invasion of Ukraine and China's actions have made the world wake up yo how good they've had it under Pax Americana
I dont understand Jokic hate
He is a great guy and a great player
Back to back MVPs and ppl act like he Tatum or even worse
This is insane
Tatum is a great player who just led his team to the finals. Jokic just lost in the first round in 5 games right after getting swept the prior year winning MVPs while only leading his teams to 40 wins
@@tridra5714 tatum has brown smart, meanwhile jokic two other best players Murray and mpj were injured, they got to the conference finals when they were healthy. Pointless argument Tatum isn’t sniffing the playoffs by himself.
@@mcnally1456 oh please. Tatum has made the playoffs every year of his career through injuries to Kyrie,Kemba, jaylen,rob Williams, and more and made the playoffs every time he has been to the conference finals 3 time going at the very least 6 games in each of his ECONF series. It seems to me that all you just watched Tatum in the finals and never watched him play before that
@@tridra5714 he had his other players that are never injured 😂 what you even saying, swap Tatum and jokic and Tatum isn’t sniffing the playoffs. Factos
@@tridra5714 nobody can win without their other players, look at Jordan didn’t get out the first round until he got pippen, jokic two best players were injured all season and still made the playoffs.
As an Aussie, I'm loving the overseas takeover of the NBA :) Love watching Giannis, Luka, Embiid, Mills kill it over there. Kinda ironic that the African American commentator at the end of the video make fun of Giannis' last name, considering the discrimination so many receive in the workplace due to similar stupid issues. Sad :(
NBA is lucky that basketball is popular overseas.. the only sport in America become popular in the world… most of their income came overseas… w/o overseas fans, nba is nothing and basketball will be not popular all over the world…
One of those guys isn't like the others.... Patty Mills? Bro he wouldn't be a starter on 28 out of 30 NBA teams.
@@jackmayor3574 Mills dropped 50 points against team USA at the Olympics last year and he is also much older than all the others, now well past his prime
My biggest problem with these people is, they watch one, maybe two games a week. I bet on the NBA every night, I watch big portions of the majority of games. And the way Nikola, Luka and Giannis stick out is unbelievable. They carry their teams in ways Chris Paul never has, let's be honest here. Every single team in the league would be better with one of them, no question.
Luka, Giannis, and Joker are the three best players in the NBA, followed closely by Embiid. The best players in the NBA are all from other countries, and I *love* it. Tired of seeing just Americans dominating all over, glad to see the rest of the world picking up the sport of basketball. Really hope this furthers the growth
Youngest Euroleague MVP player in history... The disrespect is insulting.
right
It’s really sad that the league of social activism so openly discriminates athletes based on their place of birth. When it can affect voting for awards that are used to base contact incentives off of, the whole system should be reformed. It’s not fair that guts born outside the US would have their money negatively affected by xenophobia and jingoism
As a proud member of the 1.5%, I am happy to see your channel grow so fast! Also bro you did not have to do Antoine Walker like that 🤣
Thank you man we going to the top! And aye I saw the opportunity and took it 💀
I just subscribed as well, great video
The xenophobia is not new. I remember that Jordan and Pippen don't wanna Tony Kukoc in Chicago.
Oh wait yeah I actually do remember this story. Wasn’t around for it then but have definitely heard about this
I remember hearing all this bad Noise about Luka before the draft in 2018, and I always told my friend “Luka is gonna be good in this league” whenever he was brought up, despite what the Media was trying to say, because what people forgot about him was that he was basically still a teen going against grown men, while Carrying Real Madrid to a Title before his 20s‼️
I don't understand why the sun's didn't draft him the Sun's head coach at the time coached him in Europe.
The Luka comments were straight up idiotic. I remember me and my friends laughing are asses off when he didn't go first overall. It was surreal, they were literally comparing Doncic, a Euroleague champion and MVP at 19, and Eurobasket champion at 18 years old, with role players, and not much of role players at that, like Bender or Hezonja (I am Croatian and have no problem saying they are trash)... What Luka accomplished in his European career will not be done again. The kid is a prodigy, you had to be stupid and blind not to see it... it is uncanny.
The thing is, the Kings hade Vlade effing Divac in their ranks. And there were stories on why they didn't draft Doncic, not to get into that... but at the end of the day, just for that one thing, the fact that Divac didn't insist on drafting Doncic, he should never be allowed to get within 500 meters of an NBA franchise meeting ever again... I can forgive Americans, their European scouting is god awful, they don't understand or care to understand European basketball and consequently it is always a roullete with European prospects... but Divac, Divac should've known, he must've known... he is either stupid and incompetent or malevolent, possibly both. In any case, he hurt his franchise severely in that draft...
fellow croat here 👋, I believe Divac was in a feud with Dončić's father (serbian roots or smth) over choosing Slovenia. I guess being petty rubs onto people too much sometimes
@@darcinba Yeah, the stories were along the lines of there being some kind of a personal feud. But if any of that's true, he shouldn't be able to get a job anywhere near an NBA franchise ever again...
@@flipflopzg e sad ga i ti pretera... Personalno su u svadji. Jeste Divac tu taj koji bi trebao da bude zreliji em je stariji em se očekuje to od njega... Ne moraš tako agresivno da misliš. Jer jebiga na kraju Dončić se probio i igra u NBA, iako to ne volim uopšte. Pre bi da gledam sve te naše (sa Balkana) u Evroligi. Ove ovde budale od voditelja koji su za vreme svoje karijere isto radili sranja sad se ponašaju kao da ne smeju pička ili kurac da kažu na televiziji... Mislim ono niko od Američkih top igrača ne bi preživeo u bilo kom timu u Srbiji, Grčkoj, Turskoj i jos par država... A i ti voditelji kao igraju igru jedan glumi da kaže da drugi ne za igrače. Daj bre da vidim da imaju Pešića, Obradovića ma bilo kog od poznatih iz Evrolige... Sve bi plakali i bili jadni sa objavama na internetu... Gledaš Hrvatska Srbija ili Srbija Grčka ili nzm Turska Litvanija ma bilo koga od ovih i slušaj kako pričaju treneri. Nisu oni bezobrazni nego tako je to. Nzm ko se žalio od hrvatskih igrača za bre ovog našeg Srbina koji je vodio Barsu u to vreme kako ga dovelo u depresiju... Glupost po meni. Ali takvi će svi naši igrači postati eventualno... Svi će da se žale na bilo šta... I ovaj što sere ksenofobija. Daj bre odakle više sa ovim izmišljenim rečima. Ksenofobija homofobija... Sve će da izmisle koliko su arogantni to nikad priznati neće
Looking at it condensed, there does seem to be a weird agenda for CP3. He had a mvp case earlier in his career, but how are people complaining that Jokic is Steve Nash when they want a 16 ppg guy to win MVP instead? How would that not look infinitely worse in hindsight?
Dirk was a phenomenal athlete in this athletic prime. He moved in ways no other 7 footer moved. Just because he wasn’t built like a tank and strong like a traditional PF doesn’t mean he was not a good athlete.
It’s hard for people to cope when Euros are comin hard for the record books
Yes, thank you! If Luca was American he would be treated as the next Jordan, kobe or Lebron
The nba media hates international players because they’re not used to players just putting their head down, mastering the intricacies of basketball, playing god-tier level basketball and not making a big deal about it. To them, you gotta be on the highlight reel, have a massive social media presence, and care about what they have to say about your game. Instead of celebrating dudes like jokic, Giannis, luka and embiid for the uniqueness of their games and how good they are, the media (save for Zach Lowe, he’s a real one) discredits each of them because they don’t pop off and talk shit after every made basket and make a big deal about it on social media. Lastly, jokic deserves way more respect then he’s currently getting. Dude is basically what sabonis would’ve been if the USSR didn’t fuck his knees up and allowed him to play when he was in his early 20s. Jokic is the best passing big man, ever, and something like that should be celebrated instead of being met with derision and nonchalance. Fuck the nba media.
I mean it’s pretty obvious. If Giannis was from the mean streets of Akron he would be in the goat convo.
Alperen Sengun became MVP in Turkish League(where 30+ former NBA players take stage) at the age of 18 and drafted 16th!!! Crazy.
As an european white dude, I clearly see racism from nba media towards guys like luka and jokic
But skip is white
Nick weight is white as well
Nick wright is white as well
Very true
It’s not racism. It’s allegedly xenophobia. Use terms correctly.
As an American I would be proud to have Giannis as the face of one of my country's sports leagues.
Facts
Luka Doncic, Nikola Jokic, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Joel Embiid all were MVP candidates last season
Team Europe:
Luka
Bogdanovic
Giannis
Jokic
Gobert
Rubio
Schröder
Franz
Sabonis
Porzingis
Also Vucevic, Valanciunas, Fournier, Capela, Dragic
Great seeing so many decent european Players in the NBA at the moment.
You can add Embiid as he may play for France next year.
Don't forget Gallinari
NBA has long underappreciated the type of game that is more prevalent outside- more tactical knowhow, more passing, more shooting (until Steph), less flashy dunks. Fact is in the NBA the game is set up so that the stars get more shots regardless of their actual percentages and newbies are not allowed to shoot even if open. In Europe that would not work, and that makes young talented players there learn to play clutch game. And players from the balcans learn to be hard as titanium regardless of how they may look.
Balkans not Balcans (line # four correction) LOL Da Jokerzilla is badder than the Expendables Team!
It's not only xenophobia but the deadly combination of ignorance and arrogance. Also, i'd bet most of these international players (maybe except Embiid) dont care so much about stats or being MVP.
In terms of giving awards with the mvp and all NBA, the league have been fair without having bias towards international player. The "media" being xenophobic is mostly because its the "US media"
People hating because they can’t handle that you could arguably build a better starting 5 with non-Americans than US players rn.
Luka-SGA-Giannis-Jokic-Embiid
Best US:
Steph-Ja-LeBron-KD-AD
I know who I‘d pick in 2022/23…
This is why it’s hard for people to take ESPN seriously when they stand by social justice stances. How can you preach against racism and discrimination when you have a bunch of xenophobics as your analyst?
Standing up for actual social injustices in the country vs discrediting foreign players? Lol relax
@@impacc4182 everything he said is true tho so you relax "Buddy"
@@noobgun12 you didn’t debunk my comment at all you slow child like I said all they do is discredit some basketball players boo hoo meanwhile there’s people dying from cops for no reason lol you tried
That is true especially for white international players, even if they're clearly dominating.
This should have been called out the day Jeremy Lin was run out of New York. Why are so many people scared of calling out the NBA and the media surrounding it of their prejudice?
Lin was run out of 🗽 - not by the media but by Melo's unwillingness to share the spotlight. Jeremy was actually much loved and hyped by the media.
@@beedebawng2556 Lin is American
Lin was a half season wonder. Stop sucking him off. He was ran out because he sucked.
The NBA organozation is not racist.
People of the franchises and the media are.
The irony is, if Luka, Nikola or Giannis came through the NCAA path way, these same people would be a LOT vocal in their criticism - and just look at the garbage that gets selected in the Lottery from NCAA schools - J Okafor, H.Thabeet, O. Toppin etc. The NBA, like the NFL, is very insular - unlike the MLB and NHL which have much larger foreign player percentages, and have been this way for a long time (relatively). Hence the tendency towards xenophobia. There's also a small amount of 'reverse' racism in the assessment of white European players especially - despite the success of Dirk and others like Peja Stojakovic.
Nobody wants to touch the racism take since it's "sensitive", and believe it or not, a lot of Americans think that racism goes only from whites to another races.
I understand that people whom don't have European heritage have suffered a lot during the years till this day, and that whites started it, but it doesn't exclude members of other races from being racist also.
@@Woody13woodpecker whites love to act oppressed if the league was xenophobic why did Yao have a great n legendary career how did mutombo also dirk and Olajuwon what about Andrei Kirilenko what about Al horford, Marc,ibaka, Rubio, porzingis, Schroeder, mills, Adam, sabonis, bogdanovic, siakam,Giddey,ingles,poeltl,nurkic,Markkanen and there’s many more players outside of the USA that’s balling rn and back then to try n say the league is racists n xenophobic because one guts is stupid asf to say stop it
And the players u call trash would go overseas n bust ass
@@Woody13woodpecker Racism is a 2 way street
I think the fact that Embiid doesn't get as much shit as the others just further proves the rule. Embiid came here for high school, so he's slightly more in the "cool kids club" than the fellas from Europe.
Weirdest thing he's gonna play for French national team at EuroBasket, because people from all countries who were European colonies have automatic right to citizenship from country that colonized their country in the past. Cameroon was French colony in the past. The same way Ibaka played for Spain. So technically Joel is more European than American. Lauri Markkanen also came to USA right after highschool, as 19 years old kid in 2016 and played college basketball, very similar like Joel, nobody considers him American. Only foreign players that are considered as "Americans"were Rik Smits and Detlef Schremph, since they played full college years and were mostly products of American basketball. Joel could drop into that category, but mostly why Media tries to hype him because NBA is trying desperately to expand at African market and they think having African player as one of the faces of the league would help in that, similar like they did with Yao Ming and China. What they don't get Africa is actually continent with 55 different countries and languages, people from Tunis, Algeria, Egypt, Uganda, Morocco etc etc don't care about some Cameroon's basketball player. Basketball isn't football where people from whole Africa care about some football Superstar from Africa, like they were care for George Weah, Didier Drogba or Samuel Eto'o. That's why even Joel decided to play for France, because that's his biggest chance to participate at Olympics. And since France become Africa 2.0 in all sports (here in Europe we make fun about them all the time), that won't be problem for French basketball Association.
@@MarioCindric I'm French and you nailed it
That’s a great point
Even if his last name is hard to say, you don't need two names. When you're a star, just one name will do, and "Giannis" is unique enough that everyone knows who it is. Besides that, he has a great nickname in "the Greek Freak," so his last name isn't really an issue even if analysts can't say it.
The last clip caught me off guard, I was aware of this issue, but I had never heard someone use completely non-basketball related reasons that stem from someone’s heritage and upbringing to discredit their value to the NBA and basketball
Embiid is the exception, the media absolutely loves him. They're always pushing as hard as they can for him to be MVP over Giannis and Jokic. Except the Booker xenophobes
The NBA simply or frankly any American league doesn’t want to admit that there is talent overseas that is good enough to compete with them and undervalue them with the same excuse “No one here has seen them play.” Well yeah, because they refuse to remove their bias aside and venture into other leagues which may spring up some talent. Think of this scenario would we all remember Hakeem if he never went to College in the US and instead made his name in the foreign leagues? Essentially if you are white and European, the very first impression people have despite never seeing you play is that you can’t play.
You know how many European white busts there have been
funniest part is when these players get to return to their home counrtries during the off season and get hailed as overlords of the NBA. Australian media is particuarlly bad at this, the amount of times I've seen Joe Ingles referred to as a star here baffles my mind
Nikola Jokic is the most consistent superstar alongside Giannis. He's a better shooter and more efficient. People hate that he plays at his own pace like Doncic. I'd take the dude over KD even though I have KD as the best offensive weapon in the league
The US used to sit on their "guaranteed" advantage. Now the rest of the world has better training facilities and as the world is getting more able to fly to the USA people who would have been what-ifs are realizing their love of the game. And the US doesn't know what to do about that.
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I systematically root for every international player
Siakam can average mvp numbers next season and he will barely make the all star team
This is true as well, and honestly I feel like the Raptors always get underrated
Well I'm french... And while I don't want to comment the Gobert-Mitchell-Shaq-US Media situation, or the fact Tony Parker was put out of the 75 best players list, I'd say the first problem with US Media is their laziness. The opening of the NBA is like the discovery of America : they have to widen their horizon in a way that needs to drastically change their perspective on the entire world. It means for example to learn to follow Euroleague to understand new prospects, 17 year old kids, and not just look at some games from Auburn / NC / Duke / Kansas etc to understand the draft...
Most of the time they don’t even watch college or anything like that and barely know anything about college athletes other than the big Duke, UNC, Kentucky games you say lol it’s so weird
Great great video bro. That's exactly what I've noticed for years. If a player is good then he is good, no matter where he is from
Thank you! And exactly, holding something against a player for being from a certain country is so wrong
I think the fact that luka and jokic are white is why they’re hated on the most cause embiid doesn’t get a fraction of the hate that those 2 get
So when there was Parker, Ginobili, Duncan, Nowitzki, Steve Nash, Gasol international players were not dominating?
Maybe now they do even more.
It’s a lot more than before now. 4 straight international MVPs and we’re probably headed for 5 straight
Was waiting for someone to finally call this out, great video. I think the main reason there is hate on foreign players is because the nba has for the last 30 years promoted the sport to intertwine with hip hop culture and these foreigners don’t represent that. This is why Dirk never got the respect he truly deserved. A lot of writers and fans are upset so many foreign (White) players are changing the NBA landscape and it’s no longer the street ball game it was 15 years ago. I’ve also heard people complain about there being a lot more players coming in who are half black/white and if you look at the mothers who are white, they are usually former college athletes. I have a theory about this but might come off as racist since it’s a reverse Jimmy the Greek theory.
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In conclusion: Nba analists have to start watch Euroleague
They should do that 30 years ago.
No
They should travel around the world and stop to being stupid.
They also have to watch college too cause they also don’t do that shit 😅😅 I don’t get how some are reporters
Great video bro!!!! in my opinion Stephen A is consistently up there when it comes to this…never forget a few months ago when he said he’d take AD over Luka AND Jokic😂😂😂
And ayo why does Nick Wright look like Snape 🤔
That would’ve been a perfect clip in this video how did I not find that!! And thank you fam
New title: terrible nba analysts talking shit about the best players in the league
Pretty much!
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Thank you so much!
Personally I don't think that it's just xenophobia. I think that the pandering of NBA players with flashy, exciting playstyles by the NBA media over those that don't has a part to play in this as well.
Can be that as well yeah
How do you explain that neither Parker Ginobili or Gasol are among the top 75 NBA players of all time? It is so obvious that it is even stupid to deny it. That Lillard or Anthony Davis are there is pure marketing strategy for the league. But that's exactly what annoys me, they shit on foreign players when they need to, not realizing that they could have much more benefits. At the end of the day, the NBA is the only thing that can compete ina future with Soccer at a streaming level outside the United States.
That doesn’t help explain Gianni’s everyone likes crazy dunks and man posters almost one person a game lol
I could see that. The Timmy Duncan treatment. Top 5 player in the league for years and rarely mentioned. He does the fundamentals and very little flash.
@@rb3merkabah Tim Duncan still gets disrespected to this day. I remember watching a Dom2k Twitter police where some bozo said that if you replace Tim Duncan with Carlos Boozer and that Spurs would still be as dominant as they were.
The East Coast media in particular rly don't seem to fw Jokic its weird bro like basically all of Fox Sports and most of ESPN outside of Zach Lowe and Jalen & Jacoby don't look as Jokic nearly as highly as the consensus; if I had to guess, main reasons being that they prob watch 2-3 Nuggets games max per year outside of the playoffs, don't find him marketable given how low-maintenance he is and that he doesn't have any social media, and conflate his lack of athleticism with him not being as dominant as someone like a LeBron or KD and that he thus must not be as good as those players, even tho anyone who actually watches Joker knows that he regularly dominates, just more with skill, playing at his own pace, and his elite basketball IQ as opposed to strength and athleticism
The funny thing is NBA is trying to become a more global and international brand but how are you going to achieve that when you’re trying to downplay some of your best international talents that stepped foot on their basketball courts. That’s just straight up disrespectful.
The NBA themselves are doing a good job, but it’s these journalists on TV networks that are saying some crazy things
@@WillSoTrill correct, that’s what I meant
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I think xenophobia has been a big problem in almost all north American sports leagues. Even NHL.
Imagine NHL without europeans or russians nobody would want to watch that
@@noobgun12 agreed. It would boring as duck.
I think the talking heads and especially the former player talking heads are the most biased and borderline xenophobic against the international players. The rest of the media who actually vote for the awards and write articles about the league seem to pretty much have it right. That's why all those international players got those awards after all.
Some very good points made man, hope your channel explodes!
Thank you so much!
Thank you. For every word.
They dont like the Joker or Luka because
A. They're European and B. They're White
Why the hell then they don't like Giannis???????
Euros weren't taken seriously for a while now
@@MarioCindric they hate him because they are afraid, afraid, that he is going to be the face of the league, they just hate the fact that he is the most dominant player, the best two way player, and has already a better resume than their favorite boy Kevin Durant, so they bring up shooting for example, which doesn't really add up if you think about it, because at the end of the day, the goal is to put the ball into the basket, and for the last five years, Giannis has averaged around the same points as KD did, without having a huge arsenal of shot selections
@@MarioCindric they do but they really cant deny saying he's top two in the league without getting fired for being insane. They can however discredit Luka and Joker even though they are top 5 in the league.
@@srdjanpajic2404 Ma brate znam ja zašto oni ne podnose Giannis-a, samo sprdam diklića koji kaže da Luku i Jokića ne vole zato što su bijeli i iz Europe. Ako njih ne vole samo zbog toga, koji kurac onda imaju protiv Grčkog crnca? Malo sarkazma, bar balkancima to nije teško za skužiti.
no disrespect to Steph Curry but in my opinion top 4 is all non-American: Doncic, Giannis, Embiid, Jokic
Remember when the former commissioner said that BASKETBALL is an American sport when they drafted an international player back then
Lol media has no clue players are scouted worldwide and play ignorant and thinking every star play must come from the same country Jordan and LeBron did.
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And that
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Definitely worth a sub
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Also it's false that people didn't consider winning record for jokic MVP
This is not a Westbrook 2017 situation
It's not only historical numbers regular season record also supports jokic argument
If anything ja Morant team winning record isn't helping him the grizzlies win more without him
Nuggets had a worse seeding but nearly identical regular season record to the 76ers and a little worse than the bucks but obviously Giannis had khris and jrue available for much more time than jokic had KPJ and DM which was literally 0 like they didn't show up
Nuggets regular was worse than 76ers and bucks
But nuggets regular season record was still amazing and very much comparable to all the other MVP contenders
Nah Giannis got snubbed from the MVP this year 100%
How he won only 2 games more with the bucks than the nuggets jokic didnt have his second and third option take bucks second and third best players and you will see giannis wont have a better record than the nuggets with jokic he was clearly the MVP
@@cabriskus4700 Jokic beat Giannis by 30 in his home arena. No one got snubbed and anyone who says otherwise is just tryna cope cuz their guy lost. All 3 deserved the MVP. But to act like Jokic deserved it less than the others is straight up bias
No no no no he shouldn’t have wontwo MVPs fuck what you talking about
I think they got snubbed because Embid and Giannis were superior defensively.
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great video, love the edits and commentary
Thank you!
Top 5 players last season for me: Giannis Jokic embid luka steph… KD was a first round sweep bron put up good stats on a bad team didn’t lead to winning (not like Jokic) and JT, demar ja and the suns 2 top players were all 100% ranked under these guys imo.
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LMAO
Glad you made this video. I've always been saying this. If you ain't African America in the NBA then then don't respect you deserve.
Media can say whatever they want but best players nowadays are coming from abroad.