Red October Vs Konovalov
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- The Hunt for Red October is a 1990 American espionage thriller film produced by Mace Neufeld, directed by John McTiernan, that stars Sean Connery, Alec Baldwin, Scott Glenn, James Earl Jones, and Sam Neill. The film is based on Tom Clancy's 1984 bestselling novel of the same name.
Production
Mace Neufeld Productions
Nina Saxon Film Design
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Paramount Pictures - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Rumor has it there is a mini-sub still wandering around trying to figure out where to go.
LOL
😄😄😄😄
would have been a dopee after credit scene.
Yes, to where did they send that poor guy? They just told him to hit the road and get lost. I would've taken that little sub and wiggled it to the top and then taken the hell off 😁
I'm here 4 years later to say we're still looking for Buckley. There are unconfirmed reports he piloted the craft to South America, and is currently in Colombia doing the devil's dandruff with Insta models on a yacht off the coast.
"You arrogant ass, you've killed US!"
BEST. LINE. OF. THE. MOVIE.
I always thought he called the captain a 'farging ass'. After all, it is a PG movie.
But what you said makes more sense.
my favorite is still "hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch"
I think the way Cpt Mancuso gives the line "right full rudder, thirty degree down angle" is the best line. So damn calm, given the situation. Ice. Fucking. Cold.
Replace Konovalov for Putin in Ukraine! "You arrogant ass - you killed us!!"
You've lost another submarine?
"Hey I think someone just shot a torpedo at us"....cracks me up every time.
Absolutely the best line ever, agreed!
“No shit Buckley, get the hell outta here!”
@@21magiccity I always thought he said "No shit fuckwheat" which is an amazing insult lol
@@Godunderscor it’s subtitles as “buckwheat”
@@21magiccity wait where am I…..hatch shuts
The best thing about this great film is that it shows both Russian and American captain’s as capable and innovative battle commanders able to think on their feet. It could have easily picked a side at the end of the Cold War, but it didn’t. It let the Audience see that both sides are more than able.
They also made a point about Ramius being Lithuanian, and not Russian. There's a bit of a behind the curtain on that one, in that the Lithuanian SSR was not what you would call a well behaved member of the Union. It's not shocking at all that Lithuania was the first SSR to secede when the USSR crumbled in 1991-1992. That prejudice was held against Ramius for being Lithuanian shows Clancy understood quite a bit about how the USSR worked internally.
@@jamesbuchanan4414 The ignorant view is to see the "republics" as part of a monolith.
Tupelov's undoing was his arrogance, not his political beliefs
@@dnasty312 No one was saying that his ideology got him killed, aside from the fact that he fervently went to go try and kill his former instructor out of loyalty to a state which Ramius and his officers had lost faith in. The point was simply made that Ramius' background was from a "republic" within the USSR which was historically not a blindly loyal one, which likely contributed to Ryan figuring out Ramius' intentions versus the Soviets' claims that he planned to fire his missiles.
Beautifully said.
Can we all appreciate how much Stellan Skarsgard nails his role as an over confident captain trying to win a big score. His callousness and predictability ended up being him and his crew's demise. Masterclass in acting.
he literally has like 6 lines in the entire movie, and in those 6 lines his demeanor, delivery and look all say "this guy admires ramius, but also will kill him in a heartbeat, and do anything to do so"
Agreed, except for the part when he says "About bloody time" - an English phrase that would probably not be spoken by a Russian.
Check him out in Star Wars Andor. The monologue he gives near the end of season 1 is breathtaking. One of the best actors alive.
@@scottabel1247 Just watched the whole show recently, dude is criminally underrated
@@scottabel1247 "So what has it cost me? EVERYTHING!!!"
Jonesy had the best part of these scenes when he coolly just says "pitch is too high---torpedo's Russian"---without any sonar equipment, just based on the noisy screw coming through the hull. Badass.
Yes, Jones was a professional!
What’s even more crazy is that those kind of people exist!
If I remember right, SN2 Jones made first class that day.
Not to mention Jonesy somehow figures out how to use Soviet sonar gear, while on the job in combat.
@@RCAvhstape to be fair there is a Russian guy right next to him, probably helping him out, though it should be the other way around
"You arrogant ass! You've killed us!" My favorite quote from this movie. I'm gonna say it to a teammate next time they cause us to lose something.
Hardest part of playing Chicken is knowing when to flinch.
Professor eric selvig being arrogant ass.🤣🤣
What I love is that it sounds like he's reprimanding someone who lost their house keys and not panicking at the fact that, you know, he's about to implode! Very quick acceptance of impending death.
Seems to me like Putins political Torpedo aimed at Ukraine has gone full circle too! Hopefully Putins last words too, with regards to his henchman.
I think my favorite was cut from this video, "THE CAPTAIN SCARED 'EM OUT OF THE WATER!"
Still an amazing movie, perfectly cast and terrifically acted.
Alec Baldwin will always be my favorite Jack Ryan. Whenever I read Tom Clancy novels my mind's eye imagines him as Jack.
@@kingpin6989 I have to agree. As much as I love Harrison Ford (and I do), I always preferred Baldwin's interpretation of Ryan.
i always loved the scottish-accented lithuanian
The book was better
@@alittlebitintellectual7361 True, but this is a rare example of an almost as good film
I always liked the beginning of the film... the crew speaking Russian - and eventually slow, the zoom-in to the KGB guy's mouth - then a pause - and then he speaks English.
Great way to have that as the translation.
Political Officer. He was Navy, not KGB.
The 13th warrior did it well too
Yes. And the word Armageddon is the same in both English and Russian. I love that detail
Yes that was a great shot. When you listen closely you can understand.
yeah I've always thought the same thing. felt this movie did it best instead of pure translation or simply having them start with english.
1:45 "Go to battlestations." That change in mood to all the blue lighting is so dope. What a great scene!
Agreed! Always loved that part and the zero change in his facial expression.
The way that shot that looks so cool
I was never in combat, but I was in the Coast Guard and when the claxton would go off followed by the words...
This is not a drill.
This is not a drill.
It still gets my heart racing.
Beat to quarters!!
It is a great scenography! czcams.com/video/2_epfA20dOY/video.html This is BTS and making so at some point colours of the boats are explained.
"I preshent to you... the nuclear misshile shubmarine Red October"
God shave the queen.
The ping Vashiliy. One ping only pleashe.
“ballistic mishile shubmarine”
What time does Sean Connery arrive at Wimbeldon? Around Tennish. Not my joke btw, can't remember where I heard it!
@@TyTyMcGinty She could probably use it :D
"So that's it"?
"Not quite. Right now, Kim Basinger is removing all the safety features from her divorce proposal. She won't make the same mistake twice".
😂🤣
Well played, my friend, well played.
Brilliant!! LOL
ROTF .. Oh no ...She's loading her double barreled sling shot
Hilarious. 😂
Fun Fact: Captain Tupelov actually survived this battle and after changing his name, became the Deputy Chairman of the Soviet Council of Ministers.
....and died again, lol. Stellan better watch out or he'll start turning into Sean Bean.
I'm told that dying is the equivalent of a chest x-ray, so if any of you are due for a check-up......
😂😂😂
Deputy Chairman. Not great, not terrible.
@@blppt - Well, he later became an astrophysicist and has managed to survive multiple encounters with gods from Asgard, so it seems his luck has changed.
When Sean Connery tells you to come to 315, you come to 315...
*Sir Sean Connery
Yesh.
Unless Scott Glenn is there, then it's an issue 👀
I like the color scheme in the three submarines so the viewer can easily distinguish which submarine is which in the interior shots. The Konovalov has a reddish tint, the Dallas has a bluish tint and the Red October has a more natural color tint.
Yeah, I recall the director making that decision because he realized it would have been a bit confusing. Brilliant work.
Good thing you here to tell everyone sherlock, I'm sure nobody noticed.
@@sess9561 Interestingly enough, a lot of people didn't. Why so salty?
I was just thinking about this while I watched this clip. Very nice.
There is a "making of" vid. floating around on youtube that explains the reason for that. Do a youtube search and you'll find it. It's a good vid. about how the movie was put together.
Between Connery's calm demeaner when talking to Ryan while waiting to be hit by a torpedo to Scott Glenn's calm "the trick to playing chicken is knowing when to flinch", this movie was just loaded with commanding performances. God I just loved this movie.
Something I just realized is that Tupolev still thought it was Ramius in control of RO and was still basing his tactics on his old teacher and couldn't have predicted the Dallas captains actions beforehand.
Playing chicken with an Alfa is definitely an American Buckaroo play. No way Tupolev would have anticipated that.
If I’m not mistaken, in the book, before commanding Dallas, Bart Mancuso (Dallas’ CO) did serve on a SSBN, so would’ve known something about trying to get a boomer away from a hunter-killer submarine. Although I don’t know if the Navy would’ve agreed with playing chicken with a SSBN against an Alfa.
@@mattsisoler6125 One thing is for certain, the Alfa was always going to lose in that exchange, Red October is several times her weight, it's like a semi hitting with s full load hitting a Chevrolet Corvette.
@@thitsugaya1224more like a Silverado 3500 dually vs a Vette
But like in an accident like that, both would have sustained a lot of damage, and the October would have still perished
One of the best combat scenes in the movies... “The hardest part about playing chicken is know when to flinch”...
dude has the most maneuverable and fastest (exclude Papa class) submarine and yet he got outmaneuvered by a Typhoon, he deserves being killed by his own torpedo
@@shepherdlavellen3301 LOL! Well, the Dallas did throw him a good curve ball...
@@kleetus92 if Alfa had any situational awareness, it can easily get out of the detection cone of its own torpedo
_CAPTAAAAAAINN_
This one's going to be close!
I always loved the fact Ramius puts the American captain at the conn of the red October! And when he gets back to the bridge he respectfully lets him continue at the conn! And he repays that faith by being brilliant!
Of course, you can be on different sides and still respect each other.
Wasn’t his sub anymore. He turned it over to the Americans
@@mikelavallee2497plus interrupting someone in command in the middle of a combat manuever is very dangerous, as they might be planning something you can’t predict and they can’t tell you in time, better to let them finish what they are doing
@@mikelavallee2497 he didn't though. The sub was still Soviet property. It's just that Ramius was respecting his command at that moment
I think more importantly Ramius putting an inexperienced, unfamiliar person on the conn says way more: It means it is more important to be in command, placing all your faculties in analysing the situation, synthesising a response, ordering those around you to suit, and monitoring the situation for changes. Ramius could have taken the conn himself, but then he would be helming the boat, not concentrating on command. He was even finding time to educate and train him, seeing this as a higher priority than sitting down and doing it himself. There is value in command: especially in fluid, complex situations where positions can change in an instant - you need someone to be able to react immediately and organise all of those around you.
I volunteered for the US Navy Submarine Service because of this movie two years after its release and became a Sonar Technician. My life, because of the decision to serve my Country, has paid off in ways that I could have never imagined. Six years of military service to have such a life afterwards. I thank my lucky stars that I made that decision over thirty years ago.
I meet several in my life time... They all seem to have a high IQ. Not to mention you have to score high at enlistment..I know. I tried 3 times but had high frequency hearing lose in my right ear. They caught me cheating the 3rd time switching the headphones around..
Thank you both for your service. :)
@@WizzRacingas they told us in BESS (Basic Enlisted Submarine School), "If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying."
@@ryandunham1047Proud to have done it. It's a unique thing to have on one's resume.
@@TelemarketerTrollthat’s awesome
Despite them all hating the Soviet system, can we take a moment to appreciate that Ramius and Borodin have popped to their cabins and get their uniform covers... Thats a nice bit of detail because they are proud sailors and seemingly want to meet the Americans in dress uniforms
Especially considering that Ramius is actually a British agent impersonating a Soviet captain as he meets the Americans! ;-)
@@agentorange153 As well as being the father of a famous American archeologist known for finding the Ark of the Covenant.
@@RCAvhstape That would have made him too old to have fought in World War 2, though (much less be a secret agent during the Cold War) -- so I put 1939 as the cutoff for him doing any adult stuff in this continuity!
@@agentorange153 And his XO paleontologist.... in Montana.
@@piotrd.4850 We're talking about Jurassic Pork here, right?
"...Halsey acted stupidly."
Yes, yes he did. In fact, it's amazing he got as far as he did in his career.
Where is, repeat, where is Task Force Thirty Four? The world wonders.
He was better than Yamamoto at sinking US ships that’s for sure
@@ZaHandlethat he was. And leaving Taffy 3 alone to defend Iwo Jima while he went off after fake Japanese carriers with all the battleships and carriers, and yet taffy 3 STILL did better in that one battle than he did in the entire war at sinking or damaging Japanese ships.
I love how at 2:23 when the American captain stops arguing, and basically gives a non-verbal “f*ck it, we ball” by bracing himself
"f*ck it, we ball" is the submariner's way of life
"Con, Sonar, new contact Sierra 41, alpha class soviet submarine"
"Jesus Christ Sonar, how the hell did you miss the noisiest fast attack submarine in the Atlantic speeding in and firing a torpedo?!? Remind me to give you a qual check if we survive. Now tell me the bearing so I can clear up this mess!"
SIR... it sounded like 2 whales humping
This is a very good point. In my opinion it would have been more plausible and more dramatic if instead of them being interrupted by the sound of a passing torpedo , instead there was a sudden and really loud ping of active sonar from the alfa.
For 2 reasons:
1) it could mean the alfa is getting range and bearing to target as there wouldn't be much sound coming from Red October to pick up on passive (I actually know very little about this kind of thing, this is just based off what I read in the book)
2) it would be much scarier and make you jump!
TheFieldman that would be more plausible. But still, from what I know of the Alfa class, they were still noisy enough at 5-10 knots for a 688 Sonar to pick up at typical engagement ranges, especially given that Dallas was probably moving just fast enough to keep the tower array straight. Therefore even in that situation I'd still be hauling the Sonar team in and asking how and why they missed it.
@@scottm.franklinnc7942 I don't know why, but this cracks me up lol
In the book the Alfa was positioned ahead of their course and lying in wait. Tupolev then made the mistake of trying to crank up his power slowly in preparation for attack, but even that was enough to give away its presence to the Americans.
There's so many things to unpack in this scene, but I especially loved 6:12. I've never seen someone happier to report that a torpedo has now locked onto the ship he's on...
Not to mention how he was a bumbling aspirant sonarman at the beginning of the movie... Now he is THE sonarman in a potentially deadly situation.
Rest well, Sir Sean.
And _Dallas_ XO Thompson. He passed away young in 1996
I cut classes during high school just to see this movie. It was a great day!
My folks did that for us for this and Jurrasic Park. Awesome!
“What books?”... LOL... That is just plain cool no matter what generation...
Yeah, I also love how he shakes his head and says, "Halsey acted stupidly" as he himself is heading flank speed into an oncoming torpedo.
@@dominkmanreta take into consideration that Ramius had trained the Captain of the Konavlov and knew his tactics, not to mention that he was intimately familiar with the range of Soviet torpedoes and how far they needed to travel before they could arm themselves, which was why he'd had Jack turn the Red October into the path of the torpedo to shorten the distance between the torpedo and the submarine before the torpedo's arming mechanism could kick in
Yes, Halsey did act stupidly. He took his whole fleet with him chasing after the northern force leaving San Bernardino Strait unguarded. Admiral Kinkaid was under the impression that Halsey had left a force to guard the strait so when the center force that had regrouped overnight emerged from the north Rear Admirals T. Sprague (TG 77.4, TF 77.4.1), Stump (TF 77.4.2), and C. Sprague (TF 77.4.3) were completely surprised. Halsey had made contingency plans to form TF 34 to guard the strait but never executed them and a series of miscommunicated messages led to Kinkaid's misunderstanding nor was the salient information received by Nimitz.
Actually, I am not exactly sure how Halsey kept his command. He also sent a task force through a Typhoon Cobra) losing several ships and hundreds of lives. Then he repeated that mistake several times (though none was bad as was a with Typhoon Cobra).
Where is, repeat, where is Task Force Thirty Four? The world wonders.
@@agentorange153 They say that the part, "The world wonders" was added merely as padding in the cypher and thus was not part of the intended message.
@@Primitarian But Halsey took it as an insult, so it might as well be part of the message now.
@@magosryzak7477 Yes, good point. Or possibly to go further (though I suspect you may already have gone there), one may ask: Why did he take it as an insult? Why was he so furious? Why not just take it in stride? Could it be that a part of him understood all too well how it made perfect sense as part of a message that was intended?
Mancuso: You're turning into the torpedo.
Fighter pilots and Cold Waters players: Uh, yeah.
Oh yeah, my favorite tactic. Also run as deep as my crush depth allows.
Also, knuckles work just as good as counter measures when you're waiting for them to reload/recharge, but you gotta be going fast.
@@geargrinder5182 True that, although as of one of the latest patches, I've noticed that sometimes some torpedoes ignore my knuckles or countermeasures - perhaps they simulate still working cable and weapon's officer guiding the torp to ignore them. It never occured with air/rocket dropped torpedoes.
@@FildasKirk Exactly true, this IS due to wire guidance -- in 688(I) Hunter-Killer I myself used it to good effect against an evading sub: czcams.com/video/QbnkaEdMcMY/video.html
Whoever thought up using the Dallas as a decoy was a genius. I don't know if a sub commander would actually do that, but hey, it was cool.
On one point of view; known element of a mass-produced 688-class + crew vs the potential intelligence bonanza of the successful capture of a Pr941i-class (and a full-scale working model of hydromagnetic engines) + Soviet command crew willing to divulge information + 200 Russian nuclear warheads housed in 20 ICBMs. Worth the potential trade, which the spooks on the surface would have likely ordered to be done anyway.
And after SSN-700 got popped, there would have been no rules of engagement preventing the OHP on the surface from chucking a dozen ASROCs at the Pr971/SB because "Congratulations, Mr. Tupolev, you have just killed a United States submarine and crew, you have successfully f***ed around and now it's time to find out".
Been a long time since i read the book, but I think that's how it was there. And Clancy gamed out this battle with Larry Bond using the old Harpoon miniature ruleset.
I keep going back to this movie cause the character analysis is fricking amazing; Captain Mancuso was probably the most difficult person to convince that Ramius was defecting. Ryan couldn’t do it completely so it took Ramius himself to do it with the torpedo-head-on maneuver.
I love Tupelov in this film, they make him out to be such a badass with like 2 mins of screen time.
He's a very aggressive Captain, which makes sense, the Alfa or Lira as the Russians called was a boat that favored aggressive Captains, it's fast, nimble, and heavily armed, but not that stealthy.
stellan skargard excellent actor
Pretty seamless editing job. I didn't really even notice until Ryan and Ramius reappear on the bridge. Nice job.
When Alec Baldwin made good movies..
Baldwin has said thought he failed terribly making this film and that it was Connery's star power that was the only thing that made it successful. Baldwin was a very good actor but I think his anecdote about this film says a lot about his thinking process; he is or at least was very insecure about himself. I find it very odd.
More importantly, back when he wasn't a sockpuppet for the far-left and for vermin that are the democrats
Zeb Rino I came to post this same thing, he’s such a drooling tool now, always raving about the “bad orange man”, like a child.
Gotta love Americans. They will turn anything into an argument, negativity and political tirades at the team that isn't theirs.
@@jamiestewart48 you need to try a whole lot harder with your weak baiting.
ever since I was a kid (former USNSCC here) I LOVED the fact that its his boat...its his command...and he KNOWS the boat better then anybody BUT when Ramius gets back to the bridge with Ryan - he does NOT take command...or even issue an order - he knows he is out of the loop and lets the buckaroo American sub commander get him out of the shit. I mean push comes to shove you always let those in the know do the work and so on but in the movie's universe - it works so well. Qapla!
Better then? Hurr durr durrrrr, dumbass, "then" and "than" are different words with different meanings. You learned this shit in elementary school, so unfuck yourself.
@@slappy8941 Quit being an asshole.
@@slappy8941 Pulling bitch moves there. Get over yourself. #SlapYourself
Still such a great movie. Obviously, the book is better, but when you only have 2.25 hours for a movie, I think they did a great job.
I do wish the movie address more of the reason why he defected, which the book went into.
The book also had a different fate for one of the Russian subs.
John McTiernan was damn genius of action movies. Wish he made one more..
This movie was incredible.. Definitely a classic and one of my favorites!
...but the book was 'different' 😁
I got to visit the New London Sub Base after the movie came out, and they said that they put these guys into the simulator as part of the preproduction training, with Alec becoming a qualified attack sub helmsman in the process.
And yes, the Dallas was in port at the time. Her gangplank banner had the movie's tagline "The Hunt Is On."
No, we did not go aboard her. We went aboard her sister ship Boston, which was mentioned in Red Storm Rising.
God dang! That line “you arrogant ass, you’ve killed us” is the reason I watch this battle alone dozens of times. It’s an amazing line from his first officer/mate.
Still a great film. Not terribly accurate, but still great.
Lies, this happens every day in the Navy. Under Seige, every Saturday.
Dont think its based on fact buddy.
I am john redcorn.
@@johnredcorn2476 he didn't mean historical accuracy of course, but technical accuracy ... as in "Would the sub behave this way" "Is this how a sub-crew performs in battle" "Are they using the right Jargon"
When has Hollywood ever been accurate ...their motto..make the darn movie, get it on the screen and rake in the bucks.
I'll give it 3.6 Roentgen out of 4
this movie has lost nothing of its fascination for me.
I’m bringing him in closer Merlin. You’re gonna do WHAT?!
10 Seconds from impact while Sean Connery wants to know about someone elses book:Priceless
A true ensemble cast. Everyone had a moment to shine in this battle.
One of my favorite movies. In an episode of House he said " Right full rudder" to get away from cuddy and it reminded me of this great movie.
Cary Groneveldt pretty much, full rudder either direction turns it to the max degree off the centerline. Therefore the sharper the rudder degree, the harder the turn
Love that show and this movie, what a combo lol
"What books?"...I LOVE THAT PART!!! LOL
One of my favorite scenes as well. Really had Ryan confused about his decision to follow his orders.
Ryan's book must have been a doozy. These days everyone knows Halsey acted stupidly.
That's "booksh"
1:27 I can't get enough of these moments. I always get a haunting feeling whenever movie characters talk about some threat that we don't see on screen and even more so when they know exactly who it is.
I love how Mancuso got used to the Typhoon so fast and he could manuver that monster like it's nothing
I know they had to deal with effects limitations at the time this was made (and its a FANTASTIC watch for the layman), but this battle was SO much more badass in the book.
Yes, but it was a clever move having James Bond 007 impersonate a Soviet captain (as opposed to the book version where the captain is pissed off that some idiot of a surgeon killed his wife and got away with it)! ;-)
Earlier in the picture, Capt Mancuso noted how well Ramius maintained his cool. Well, Capt Mancuso demonstrated here that he was just as cool under fire as Ramius. What a well-written and well-played scene.
Scott Glenn is an underrated actor in my opinion. I loved him in this and Silence of the Lambs and The Right Stuff 😊
Fun fact: Captain Tupolev was played by veteran Swedish actor Stellan Skarsgaard (Chernobyl, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, The Avengers, Thor, Deep Blue Sea, etc)
How can a modern torpedo miss?.
And the Professor in Good Will Hunting
@@johnbockelie3899 It's not as hard as you would think. Modern torpedoes rely on sound to home-in on their targets. Listening for reflected sound from it's own on board sonar is how they work. When Red Oktober passed and dove as the torpedo closed it put Konovalov IN FRONT of Oktober in relation to the torpedo, thus closer to it thus the torp's sonar chased the closest target. That's the way torpedo sonar works. Ballsy move regardless BUT definitely a "real life" tactic. Just like when Dallas "put her on the roof". She launched 2 noisemakers as she rocketed to the surface, and believe me subs are quite fast when they have to be, which the torpedo sonar heard and chased after since the noisemakers were CLOSER. Again, that was a for real tactic. It's called Surface Capture in the Navy. I'm a Navy veteran I know about this type of combat.
I like to think that Tupolev actually survived this , left the Soviet navy and becomes one of the dads in the mamma mia film. It's one of my coping mechanisms for when I'm forced to watch mamma mia
TheFieldman You get forced to watch Mamma Mia?
The perfect action sequence doesn't exis...
The complete trust Lieutenant Thompson has in the Chief of the Boat to take measures to save the submarine is amazing.
Pretty much how naval command works. The OOD or whomever is in charge directs strategy, the specifics are dictated by subordinate officers in specific posts.
That’s how the US and European forces work. The officers rely on good NCOs to make good decisions. My father who was in the air force said a good Chief Technician (he was in the engineering corps) was worth 10x their weight in gold.
Decades ago they were making movies that are still giants compared to the crap they make now.
"You Arrogant @$$! You killed US!!!" aaaaand ......BOOM!!!! lol
This is one hell of a nail biter.
"Hey Ryan, Be careful of what you shoot at, most things in here don't react too well to bullets."
And they shoot anyways...lol real smart..but that's Hollywood for ya....lol
"Like me. I don't react that well to bullets."
I would NOT want to be the actor playing the cook -- literally! (I bet he didn't even realize just how much real-life danger he was in while shooting that scene!)
I love how when the second torpedo impacts and breaks apart, no one cheers or says anything, everyone except ryan are just quietly are like, “huh, that actually worked, interesting.”
Depending on what kind of torpedo they fired, that would actually be a smart move to go directly into it. The 53cm torpedo that the Alfa used had a variant that detected the churning of a submarine's screws as opposed to the standard torpedo the Americans would use which tracks from sonar. Although this information is from a Wikipedia article with 5 references in total, so it might contain some "original research" which is usually inaccurate.
And yeah of course he pulled it off in the movie.
You are correct. The churning is called CAVITATION. Plus the hull itself will be making some noise as the sub dives cause the water pressure is increasing fast.
I'm afraid not. The range was at which that torpedo was fired was more than long enough to arm the warhead. A torpedo only requires a running distance of approximately 500 yards to arm the warhead under normal circumstances- and the torpedo in question traveled over 3.5 nautical miles. Closing the range on a torpedo at that distance is a suicide quest.
Thanks Gorbachev. If it stood to me you'd have 2 nobel prizes
LET'S
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@@manilajohn0182 Actually, doesn't the torpedo warhead arm at the same time that its sonar turns on and begins its search? (But, of course, if they select the passive search mode, then the target has no way to know when it actually happens!)
“ Come on, Big D! Fly!”
I love that line.
That line gives me Chills. Like he’s talking to something he loves. Also hearing the metal contractions as they ascend adds to it. Intense scene.
USS Dallas: *BOOSH*
Russian Sailor: "Captain scared them out of the water!"
THFRO is a smart movie, Hollywood don’t make em like this anymore. Dialogue, plot, etc, it expected the viewer to pay attention to be on the same page with everything going on. No witty quips, comic relief to break tension or obvious forced explanations of what was going on. Apollo 13 was another in that it had that same sort of high expectation of audience competence. I miss these kinds of films, they’re very rare now
Everyone is thinking they're about to die in 20 seconds, and Ramius gives Ryan a bad book review
"WAY TO GO DALLAS!"
...yeah that did kinda rock!!! Alright chief, put us on the roof...
"Emergency blow! Launch countermeasures!"
One of my favorite movies
Great cast put together👍
The Hunt for Red October and Die Hard, 2 of the greatest guys movies of all times.
Sean Connery is legendary.. great in every Role. 😊😊😊
Best sequence in the whole film. I never get tired of watching this
In reality a single torpedo, even Soviet ones which are pretty powerful, is very very unlikely to cause a catastrophic detonation on a Soviet/Russian sub. Many classes were built with a double hull and if you look at the Kursk, her entire magazine exploded and she remained largely intact.
Yes, but the Alfa's a much smaller sub, and she had all her weapons armed if I understand correctly. Not sure if that would contribute in some way.
@@stephandolby They are armed when fired.
@@Internetbutthurt / I believe one of the Alfa’s officers complained to the captain that “the torpedoes are armed in the tubes” so the 2nd torpedo was armed in the same part of the sub the 1st torpedo hit.
And the Typhoon had 5 *separate* pressure hulls.
You must be VERY fun to hang out with at parties 🤣
Top to bottom, one of the greatest moments in cinema.
Farewell Captain Rhamius :'(
(R.I.P. Sean Connery)
I like the fact that he doesn't even argue his point, he just ends it with 3-1-5.
Scott Glenn is really underrated. He was allowed to command a nuclear sub for real while preparing for this role.
I love how, after seeing Ramius' stunt with the first torpedo, Mancuso just couldn't do anything lesser 😂
He didn't COMMAND the sub, but he shadowed the actual captain and gave orders as if he were in command in order to properly play the role. HOWEVER, as he was not actually IN the Navy, a commissioned officer, or in a REAL command position, the REAL captain would either support or countermand those orders as appropriate.
czcams.com/video/2_epfA20dOY/video.html he talks about it starting at 12:15
Also that tiny little nod of respect he gives Ramius at 4:30 -- he knows Ramius has earned his legendary status.
That barely visible nod at 4:31 is everything.
Come on Big D --- Fly!!
I so want to put a Beavis and Butthead quote here
...you would want to get the hell out of there after making yourself the new target!!! 😂😂😂
The Captain of the Akula survived and went to Dune to be the leader for the Harkonnen.
Remember earlier in the movie ramius told borodin he is not afraid about the russians, he knew their tactics. Ramius knew that a russian torpedo couldnt arm itself, that's why he stayed so calm whereas the americans wetted their pants because they didnt know... Best sub movie besides Das Boot!!
I've listened to the audiobook over 40 times and never tire of it, love film too.
Great mix! Thank you.
I nominate Jonesy as Captain. He did all the work.
He also plays a brilliant ADA on Law and Order Criminal Intent...
That subtle nod from Mancuso after he discovers what Ramius was doing, great acting.
indeed, however i cannot help but think that Mancuso should have figured it out quicker than after it was all said and done. Americans have similar technogies as far as minimum distance before arming weapons to prevent a torpedoe from turning around and hitting them. And also quite a contrast with Ramius. When Ramius gives his orders Mancuso can't help but argue every turn, yet when Ramius comes back with Ryan he does not say a word and just lets things happen
@@stevebelanger2448 Americans don't risk like that lol
Watched this in the theater. when it came out. Loved it then and even more now. GREAT film. GREAT acting. GREAT characters. GREAT soundtrack.
I would have liked to have seen Montana....
One ping, one ping only Vasiliy.
@@madcapmagician3130 in Sean Connery's accent
...that WAS a part from the book they coulda skipped... 🙄🙄🙄
I will get a round American woman and she will cook rabbits for me. Perhaps I will need two wives. LOL
Oh, he did. In disguise of paleonthologist, few years later in Jurassic Park :D
Still one of my favorite go to movies even though I can go through it line by line, with accents!
same here man, know every word
I only realized years later that the first torpedo fired by the Konovalov was intentionally sabotaged by the weapon’s officer to give Ramius a chance to respond. And when he later calls Tupolev arrogant, it’s because he had the audacity to think he could defeat his mentor in a fight. (This is just a theory based on observation and deduction.)
Interesting theory!
Had not thought of that. That first torpedo shot must’ve been made at such an extreme range that they missed calculated something.
it didn't armed itself, as they explain in the movie a torpedo has a safety measure that prevent the weapon to be armed when fired, it arms usually far away from the submarine, this devices existed even in WW2, to prevent a torpedo to fail and explode near the submarine that shot it. Nobody sabotaged it.
@@Unami0929 nope, it was shot too close, and the torpedo didn't arm itself before to contact the Red October, as they explain in the movie.
@@BoB-fg6eg yes, but that safety fuse is set based on the estimated range to target. It’s supposed to arm close to the target, but not after. The torpedo isn’t even homing yet, or it would have still hit, just not detonate. Like the later torpedo that Ramius steers into. The captain tells the weapon officer that they fired with the wrong range and to fix the settings. So, either the officer is incompetent or he did it on purpose. Also look at the weapon officer’s face. He looks grim and reluctant.
My mother used to say: ”Sean Connery LOOKED BETTER in his OLD DAYS than in his young days.”
Wow, impressive production values for 1990. I need to see this movie again sometime.
Where's the part where the Russians cheer that the captain has scared them right out of the water?
removed from this clip
It's the past where the Dallas protects the Red October from the Soviet torpedo and ends up partially out of the water. The reaction from the Soviet sailors it's edited out.
Such a phenomenal plot. A perfect example of how you pace a movie and how you write a thriller. The acting is the worst part...and that is saying something because the acting is fantastic.
This is John McTierran - Predator, 13th Warrior, Die Hard....
Just amazing on so many levels!! The casting is top notch!
I love all of this, even if the book was better. The whole movie is just ... wonderfull
Sean Connery originally turned down the roles because he didn’t care for the dialogue for his character. Connery asked the producer to get John Milius to rewrite his dialogue which happened.
Alright Chief put us on the ROOF
I have read the book and seen the movie. Both are great.
Sure are. They DID take a lot of "dramatic license" when doing the film, BUT it was done in a totally believable way
I'm glad to see that this movie is alive and well! Fact or fiction? Who knows? To the best of my knowledge, decoy torpedoes don't just hang about but draw the other torpedoes away from submarines.
Those were not decoy torpedoes, those were static decoys!
There are actually multiple types of countermeasures. One type is the countermeasure that they drop in both this scene and the other scene where they Russian ASW plane drops a torpedo on the Red October in the canyon. The US (maybe the Russians as well I'm not certain) also have what is called a Mobile Submarine Simulator, or MOSS. It's basically a slow torpedo like device that they can fire that is engineered to sound like certain types of submarines. They won't really fool active sonar because of the size, but they can fool passive sonar by generating the sound.
That underwater explosion was very satisfying for me having never seen this movie.
100% accurate submarine battle, trust me I know it, I saw it in the movie!
Phenomenal music score !!!
"Hey I think that somebody just shot a torpedo at us."