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- Former US submarine commander L. David Marquet rated the realism of submarine scenes in popular movies, judging their technological accuracy as well as the depiction of life on board.
Marquet addresses the realism of nuclear crisis movies, such as "The World Is Not Enough" and "K-19: The Widowmaker,". He also rated the accuracy of standoff scenes in "The Hunt for Red October," "The Enemy Below", "Hunter Killer," and "Crimson Tide." He also breaks down the realism of costumes, tactics, and terminology from "U-571."
Is life on board a submarine, including confined conditions and drills, as depicted in "Das Boot"? Would Navy SEALs enter a submarine from a HALO drop similar to "Act of Valor", and is it possible for a submarine to hear music from the water's surface, like in "The Wolf's Call"? Can holes on a submarine be plugged with pins and other metal objects, as we see in "The Simpsons"? Would nuclear missiles be triggered by dislodging in a ship interior, such as in "Aquaman"?
Marquet graduated top of his class from the US Naval Academy and served for 28 years on submarines, including as an engineer officer aboard the USS Will Rogers, then as captain on the USS Olympia and the USS Santa Fe. Having retired in 2009, he is now a Wall Street Journal best-selling author of "Turn the Ship Around! A True Story of Turning Followers Into Leaders."
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Me: "That looks fake."
Expert: "This is actually very realistic!"
Me: "I knew it."
😂😂
Yeah. The scene in the black sea. Me: „that was some movie science mumbo jambo!“
Expert: „that is actually very realistic. 10/10“
Me: „yeah already knew that“
I think he may have been paid off cuz most of this was all pretty bad. The one that should have got the best grade was act of valor, cuz they actually were on the boat. But most of this was pretty off, especially the torpedo scene in the hunt. Can't hear a torpedo through the hull like that.
@@briansonnenfelt7125 lmfao dude accuses a submarine commander of being paid off bet you weren’t even in the navy let alone a sub🥴🤣
😄
"Basically, it was like a Miata with a Corvette engine."
Ahh, I see you're a man of culture as well.
EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS
@@northwestgarage8546 can you explain to confirm my suspicion I don't wanna look dumb
Have u seen the Toyota 86 with a Ferrari engine.....like damn
@@xullassg.6190 That would be an 86 that sets itself on fire.
Ever seen that photo where someone somehow fit a V12 in a Miata? That’s what I imagine it to be
10/10 for Das Boot
Didn't expect anything less from a sub commander
I loved Das Boot
Its the best sub movie of all time
Das Boot was 11/10 for me because the whole movie is in spoken in German. That adds so much more realism.
@@arietrouwborst3304 It is a German movie featuring German actors. So it is no surprise that is was spoken in German with proper pronounciation.
They took some artistic liberties too. There is a scene where rivets in hull pop. The hull of the type of submarine wasn´t riveted.
I still think the movie is great and I might rewatch it.
@@maxlutz3674 thanks for the additional info bro. I was aware of the fact that it was a German movie. But I didn't knew the movie wasn't 100% authentic.
As someone that was actually on the USS San Francisco, I can confirm that running into the ground was in fact a very bad day. It was however not actually all that bloody, mostly concussions and broken bones. Unfortunately there was a single death but thankfully it was only one. RIP MM2 Ashley.
RIP MM2.
Eternal Father, strong to save,
Whose arm hath bound the restless wave,
Who bidd'st the mighty ocean deep
Its own appointed limits keep,
O hear us when we cry to thee
For those in peril on the sea!
With mostly minor injuries suffered by the crew how did he die? Was just a bad blow to the head or something?
@@xJ0LLYR0GERx Yeah, it was head trauma that caused his brain to swell and we were unable to get him airlifted off the boat due to the cage being too big to fit though the hatches in the sail. They did try. It's likely that getting him off the ship wouldn't have saved him anyways because he passed away very shortly after the attempt.
Also, to pre-answer an incoming question: the cage is designed for the escape hatches (forward or aft) which are bigger and it could probably fit through the weapons shipping hatch as well (though that one is slanted); but the ship was sitting too low in the water to open those hatches since we lost half of our ballast tanks in the collision.
@@michaellindgren9653 I wouldn't have had that follow up question lol but Im always interested in learning stuff so thanks for sharing all of that.
Wasn't the collision while most people were in the rack and MM2 Ashley was on watch taking logs in the auxiliary machinery spaces and flew down from an upper to a lower level? Or at least that's what I had heard was the reason why possibly more people weren't hurt. Granted ... When isn't at least 1/3 of the crew in the rack?
This dude was by far the most entertaining of the military commentators that I’ve seen on one of these videos. You can see by the excitement on his face the whole time that he fulfilled his dream job.
Or perhaps he's so happy because his career in a pressured metal death trap is over?! ;)
I can't comment on what it must've been like. You find the strangest people skilled at the strangest jobs. Can't escape the vibe this guy gives off. He relates in the video. I bet everyone under his command would just do anything they were told (obviously they have to) with an attitude of 'whatever he says' no matter how bonkers it was. Smash this thing into La Rochelle imma get me some decent fromage. Ok captain.
IKR, I think this is the best military commentator video of insider that I've watched so far,, Like even here, I wanna bow 135 degree to him lmao
Yeah, he's not one of those "I sleep with a fully-load AR15 beneath my pillow every night" ones.
@@ngcastronerd4791 I’m sure he doesn’t miss the administration part of his military career, which sadly consumes way more time than it should. But you can tell he loved leading his sailors and the excitement of operating under water. I know that I would not like to be in a metal coffin for more than 24 hours, but I am very thankful that people like this man yearn for it.
I'm still waiting for terrorist rates 14 terorrism scenes
Lol
nice one
As a Middle Eastern am I qualified?
@@benamini5701 maybe
@Studd Muffin as a muslim, am I qualified? Here's my cv
Experience:
-Listened to "Rhodesians Never Dies"
-Watched JJBA
-Played "No Russians"
I like how the farther you go back in time, the more realistic the film.
It's hard to amuse people in this cheap generic marvel movies era
I think most people inherently know when a movie is overexaggerating and modern movies love to do that. People realize it detracts from the quality of the story. I wish hollywood realized real life is exciting enough. Das Boot is probably the best submarine movie ever made and they didn't need crazy special effects and a predictable heroic storyline to do it. There are so many unbelievable true stories that should be portrayed in film but we keep getting stupid multi million dollar marvel cash cows.
Best comment and accurate replies
Except the old titanic movie "A Night To Remember". James Cameron Titanic was much more accurate.
@@JohnS-il1dr yeah lol, or the nazi titanic. i read somewhere that the liner which owned titanic, white star lines, had it be so that in every film before cameron's the ship didn't split apart just to make themselves look better
My father, who was in US submarines during World War II, considered Das Boot (The Boat) to be the most realistic submarine movie he'd ever seen. He told me: "It was a different navy in a different ocean but I knew what was going on and I knew why it was happening." I was also a submariner in nuke boats and I also saw the authenticity of that movie. --YNCS(SS), USN (Ret)
The is guy is not only a sub commander, he looks like he has an arsenal of dad jokes. He’s super wholesome.
❤️❤️
Don’t get fooled. Once we got underway, even the the most wholesome men succumb to the juvenile jokes, language, and jackassery every once in a while. I served in the US submarine force before women were integrated, so it was like going to sea with your brothers, male cousins, uncles, dads, and grandfathers. A giant “locker room” environment with the salty language, humor, and ball-busting you would expect, but all that silliness could turn on a dime at the sound of an alarm. Without a doubt the most professional and focused group of people I’ve ever had the pleasure to work with.
I had 4 Captain's on boomers. I don't even know you commander (Captain) but I know your crew loved you! A great commander will convince you to follow him to hell! Sometimes war is hell! The old man, (you know it Captain), XO, and Cob were like our dads. Always had answers. Submarine crews were best of the best! I felt at home. Except cleaning stuff with green bug juice during field day. Well, we all hated that.
@@pablozee6359 what about farts
He's great, I like.
This guy's seems very friendly and down to earth, not the typical asshole commanders we see in movies. 10/10 guy.
IIRC sub captain usually get along more with their crew because basically inside the sub there's no separation between officers and crew, unlike in surface Ships. I remember things from laconia series that basically said, "a lone man in a sub is a dead man".
Like maybe Gene Hackman in Crimson Tide?
Well they dont have to prove anything to anyone, sub crews are not burly meat heads with ptsd and anger issues...
Well he actually wrote a book about exactly that :) - I listened to the audio book and it's actually awesome. It's in fact one of my favorite books.
He's not on duty now.
This guy could literally start a CZcams channel on submarines and quickly garner a huge following. Very informative, passionate, wholesome, you simply can't ask for more IMO.
Do you watch Sub Brief?
My biggest beef with U571 was the US Navy capturing Enigma... which was already accomplished by the British. You could almost imagine an American commander saying, "Look, I captured an Enigma machine!'
The British officer replies, 'Oh, jolly good. Put it with others, would you? There's a good chap.'
I believe the poles captured it no?
@@aztronomy7457 That was the land based version, but yes.
“The most realistic thing is the guy drinking beer under the water”
I'm going to become a submarine CO by drinking beer in my pool.
I loved that line. Whelp, gonna die. May as well get toasted
Loved that, drinking beer under water
under the water?
average american speaks half a language?
@@ImAmirus hoo boy you're in for a difficult time if that's your issue.
Don't know why, but I just love this guy's attitude😆😆😆
seems he would be a pleasure to serve with...THAT is what serving under a good dude is all about..you'd go to hell with 'em.
@@moss8448 I couldn't agree more. You said it perfectly
His books on leadership are quite good. Turn the Ship Around and Leadership is Language.
he's certainly got the charisma
He's made a Ted Talk that's amazing, on how he turned his ship around and made his crew arguably the best of the US Navy.
One of the best Reactors in this series. 1) Acknowledges that a film can be inaccurate but still good 2) Pointed out that a film can be inaccurate AND dangerous in that it pushes a false belief or movie troupe 3) Points out what is right and what is wrong with the clip
I loved this man! He was normal, not cocky, not boring, doesn’t like to hear himself talk. He was funny! I could watch more of these with him. 5 Stars ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍✌️
This guy’s personality embodies the submarine force. Incredibly smart, bit nerdy, very brave.
WAP
“Nerdy”, you must be referring to Fire Control, not Missile Men and Torpedoes Men.
@@michaellong6605 Missile Techs, not missile men.......... Difference being ours were bigger and stood erect...
William Schroeder No , it was Missile Man when I went in and very shortly after became “tech”, much to the amusement of the Torpedo Men.
@@michaellong6605 Dang, I didn't know people that old were still alive..... LOL
That man was one helluva Captain. I served onboard the Santa Fe with him. He helped me make TMC I have a lot of respect for him.
A good leader ensures the job is done right. A great leader gets it done right and has enthusiasm that's infectious for the crew. The best leader takes people under their wing, teaches them, and pushes them to be the best they can be. We all have to step down eventually. Mighty comforting to know you have someone under you that will make you proud and do great things
He seems like the kind of person you would want as your Captain.
Fake story
Just watching this video he seems like a really quality person. I've met a few Navy and fellow Army guys like him but as someone who spent his time enlisted, boy that was the exception to the rule lol.
Lies again? Suzuki Car Soccer Club
Marquet is awesome.
So many specialists/professionals, etc. on the Insider reviews rarely ever address movies *as* movies. David recognizes creative licensing while also giving an informed opinion at the same time, which makes the review so much better. Most of them get so wrapped up in their own heads with the technical minutiae that the ending accuracy ratings are either overly-generous or deadpan and single-mindedly critical.
I'm a Navy veteran but I was on a carrier, the USS Enterprise (CVN-65) from 1996 to 1999, and then a CG, guided missile cruiser, the USS Gettysburg. I have mad respect for bubble heads. I worked at a VA hospital years ago and a fellow nurse was a career bubble head, he did 24 years and exclusively sub duty, all Boomers (ballistic missile subs) he retired as a Master Chief Machinist Mate. Thank you for your service BTW
“The most realistic thing in this scene is the guy underwater drinking beer!”
That pretty much sums up Barney’s role on The Simpsons - the most realistic character.
It also pretty much sums up my 4 years on a sub
Alcohol; the cause of and the cure for all of Lifes
problems. ..
@Dave Roche How would you like to get higher than you've ever been?
This guy's seems very friendly and down to earth, not the typical asshole commanders we see in movies. 10/10 guy.
don't cry for me, i'm already dead
I could tell this guy was an expert as soon as he said "you don't want to nose dive your submarine into the bottom of the ocean" that is something only someone with years of experience would know
Genius..able to communicate effectively to "regular" humans, as I am sure he did with his crews..
5:00 This is why US Navy special forces are not allowed to urinate while on a submarine.
The last thing you want on a sub is leaky S.E.A.L.'s
@@chrispham8705 ba-dum tss
Virgil says hello. /watch?v=LwDtUhJvK2s
Sounds like common sense to me - but I was never a submariner.
13:21 here especially, but actually through the entire video, this man seems so likeable and prone to logic, that I bet he was a very popular Captain. Officers who have a John Wayne approach are obeyed, but rarely highly regarded. This dude, I'd be proud to serve under his command because he inspires confidence and loyalty.
I think nuclear sub crew officers (in all countries that have em) are almost universally super smart and well-read, cerebral, sophisticated etc. It's the branch that selects for it, as well as quality people skills, because it's a requirement to manage several dozen highly specialized professionals plus a mob of normal sailors for three months to a year in a sealed can, and keep them happy and responsible
It's neat to see how folks pick up on leadership qualities in others and I think you're on the mark about him. He wrote a really clear leadership/management book called Turn the Ship Around about how he democratized the decision making process for chain of command in the fleet so that folks who are closest to the information can be empowered to decide and act on what they need to do. Apparently he turned the USS Sante Fe from the worst performing submarine in the fleet when he took command of it into the best during his tenure and his methods are now the standard.
I wish they had explained this scene more or used a different scene from the movie
Mathew Mcccchonoughehhys character was the XO before the actual captain is killed, so he has to step up as the captain. All this happens moments before this scene takes place.
Amazingly good movie, definitely should watch if you haven’t seen it yet!
I love this guy. He is super informative, but he is having fun. He's not stiff, like some of the other folks on the show. He's cracking jokes, while explaining what we see. This was super fun to watch.
“It’s like a Miata with a Corvette engine”. I’d like to buy this guy a drink.
Ls swap the world
Which LS tho? Haha
@@NXAlpha Hellcat
@@tungsten8290 thats not an LS...
@@NXAlpha and yet its been fit to a miata.... Same idea.
Personally I'd prefer the Honda J-series V6 swap or maybe the Jag swap if I had the money... But thats more work than putting a FF supercharger on the 1.8L NA engine... Saving up for the supercharger for my 96' now.
"The most realistic thing in this whole scene is the guy under water drinking beer." Yeah... pretty much. That explained my entire five years in the military.
hail to u bro, loves u
It's still more realistic than other movies
Would have loved to have seen more Das Boot scenes in this. Best submarine movie of all time.
It makes me feel safer knowing this is the type of dude that's in command of nuclear subs. Calm, laid-back, low-ego, knowledgeable.
Kind of a "no fighting in the war room" situation, I think.
Submarines are known for the laid back attitude between ranks. Both due to a small crew and the fact each crew member is vital to safety of ship.
Not all of them are like that...
Same here.This is exactly the kind of person I would want in charge of a nuclear submarine.The guy with the nuclear launch codes(The President Of The United States) has the authority to give the order to launch nuclear weapons but these are the people who are carrying out that order.
And....a sense of humor 🤣
one of the best reviewing military videos I've seen. great job commander.
"one ping only..."
Should've called him "old man"
Give me a ping, Vasili
Ready tubes 1-4 on my Mark, 2/3rds speed depth 5meters loose 1, 2,
Ten pings from me captain. Don't listen to trolls
Well the K14 review was actually not that accurate. The crew of the K14 actually feared a nuclear explosion, so that part alone is accurate. Also a nuclear reactor can explode, which actually was a concern on the K14 because if your reactor overheats sooner or later it will evaporate the cooling water which can lead to an explosion or if it is hot enough water will be split into oxygen and hydrogen which are highly explosive.
Whether it would detonate the other war heads is hard to say, but keep in mind that this incident happened in 1961, so it had a reactor and war heads with 1950s russian technology, which is not that reassuring.
I agree with everything that Captain Marquet said about those sub movies, including the part about the guy drinking a beer while submerged within the sub.
In the mid-1960s I was a crew member serving TAD aboard the nuke sub, USS Shark (SSN591), which was chasing after a Russian nuke sub (it's what we do) at high speed, about 200' deep in the Eastern Atlantic. We were speeding so fast and our sonar was unable to actually hear anything. I was standing listlessly behind a round plastic board called the time bearing plot, without sonar input, when the PPI (planned position indictor, or sonar screen) operator screamed into his 7MC to the Con: (sic) "Con, sonar, submarine passing hard to port, distance uncertain." The entire left side of his PPI was indicating a very close contact. It had turned white.
It all happened so fast that none of us reacted in any significant manner except for the ship's captain who ordered an immediate 'right full rudder to enable our rapid removal from the scene. When we finally picked up his sounds he was headed toward Ireland. It was another 'Whew" moment for me.
Sub sailors commonly referred to that maneuver by the Ruskies as a "Crazy Ivan."
Best wishes to all who served. GW West, RMCS(SS) USN Retired
I wished they would've done the scene from hunter killer where they basically parked on the sea floor to see his reaction. I burst out laughing when I watched it underway. Submarine CO's are some of the coolest people in the fleet. My last commander actually did a back to back bsp when my wife had an emergency c section to get me home to her. We literally got to the dive point after a bsp where my buddy got off for his wife, and then the message came through and my captain turned right back around just to make sure I made it back in time. Much respect for the sub commanders
This dude had control over world ending weapons and he comes off like a cool techer lol.
What a madlad
You’d be surprised how many times we’d run mock battlestations to mimic sending those off at a moments notice
I would love to have this guy as a commander.
Y’all should read his books. Turn the Ship Around and Leadership is Language are great.
he was an attack boat skipper those are not ballistic missile boats. They don't normally have Nuclear Weapons on board. Modern Nuclear Subs are split between Attack Boats (built for speed, silence, and carrying torpedoes, missiles and mines) and Ballistic Missile Boats or "Boomers" which carry Nuclear ICBMs and are basically under water missile silos.
@@amfarrell42 thx for the tip, ordered!
Ok, I give this guy 10 out of 10. I can't give him 110% I give him 100% because 110 doesn't exist. Professionalism & knowledge it dripping of this man. Exceptional reviewer.
Agreed!!! ❤️
You were listening when he said "you can't go to 110% on the Reactor"! Go to the head of the class!
@@xheraltfinally someone validated my comment yeah!!!!, he just talks flawlessly soooo edumicated ( educated ).
Sure you can go above 100%, a reactor is specified for a certain amount of energy production. You can run it above specification which obviously shouldn't do, but this is a movie about a rogue russian submarine, so maybe not that unreasonable.
@@lal12 thought the same, if refering to the maximum Power ists rated for you sure can push it 110% of that, dont know if it is possible on nuclear power, bit in theorie it is absolutly possible.
In "Das Boot" they dived beond the rated depth so they went over 100%
He's so wholesome 🥺 His enthusiasm makes this a hundred times more enjoyable. 10 outta 10.
As soon as I saw that Simpsons one start, I had to stop and laugh! I couldn't wait to see his face! It's a great episode, and taught us the strategic significance of launching our commanding officers at the enemy!
"The most realistic thing here is the guy underwater drinkin' beer." Gotta admit, he knows his sailors!
well, during covid even wars stopped all over the world and i tought, whats best than throwing a positive alive guy with a catapult inside enemy camp? as always no1 listen to me, well i felt ashamed 🤦♀🤦♀🤦♀
The Soviet ALPHA was “like a Miata with a corvette engine.” LOVE this guy. Glad we have people like him commanding our subs :)
I thought he said maserati I was like wtf that doesn’t sound right 😂
Immediately I was like.. “dude is a car guy..! Cool... “
I’d love a corvette engine for my Miata.
@@Du-Masses well...if you Russian, that would be reasonable 😁
He said former……
“That’s how you die on a sub.”
I love how he was kinda joking and dead serious at the same time. Sub guys are different.
Yeah we are.
When you have a career in a can subject to pressures that can end you in an instant, you tend to deal in absolute
My old boss was a nuke on a sub. Absolutely amazing dude, took zero bullshit from anybody.
I remember a discussion while I was on patrol (SO long ago) about if what would happen if you ever had catastrophic flooding. The question was: would you die by drowning or be boiled to death from the sudden compression? You might also add electrocution from water + nearby switchboards, electrical distribution boxes, etc.
@@MikeWiggins1235711 Did you have a jammed dive buddy?
I would enjoy his comments on more old movies, like "Ice Station Zebra", "Run Silent, Run Deep", "Hellcats of the Navy" , or "Destination Tokyo".
Ice Station Zebra = Bovine Scatology. One of the WORST submarine films ... ever!
@@MikeWiggins1235711 No arguement here. thats why i said i would enjoy his comments on other movies.
This man is an excellent speaker - clear, relevant - I can imagine that he was an excellent commander for clarity, the ability to think and the willingness to consider the thoughts of others without arrogance.
This man's enthusiasm while explaining all this is what makes this video so enjoyable to watch
late but ever heard of the guy named Subbrief aka Aaron Amick
@@thefrunze.198 Nope but will check him out
@@vincentrangel5655👍
Any idea of background music?
Submarines are cool
Das Boot is based on a novel and when it came out in Germany, every U-Boat Veteran alive was invited to see it for free. Many of them had to leave mid-movie as it became so realistic it started to stir up old memories.
Also during the course of the war the term "der Alte" (the old man) became more of an ironic nickname on German submarines - as even the Commanders often were merely in their mid-20s and ended up commanding a bunch of teenagers due to the ridiculous losses the Kriegsmarine suffered from 1943 onward.
I think it's like Saving Private Ryan. When D-Day veterans came to see the movie, some of them had to leave halfway through the movie because it's too realistic to the point that it gives them terrible flashbacks. I think the VA had to establish a hotline for veterans who saw the movie and were traumatised by it.
The hunt for red October is based on a true story too, except it wasn't a submarine it was a soviet destroyer in Lithuania. It wasn't the CO who staged the mutiny it was the political officer, he wanted to sail the soviet navies newest most advanced destroyer into leningrad harbor, today saint Petersburg and start a new communist revolution against the current communist at the time. Unfortunately the staffed the destroyer with mig 17s and when they surrendered the political officer and all officers who supported him were executed the others were sent to labor camps.
@@adrielsebastian5216 Saving Private Ryan realistic?
@@louisr6560 apparently
I don't think young commanders were a result of losses. Young commanders who had yet to reach 30 were also common in the first years of war, for example Kreschmer and Schepke, and many more.
I'm a teacher. I had a man like this as an older colleague. He is quirky but through sheer skill and character I would follow him to death's door as a subordinate because I knew that he would find a way to get us out of it ... and if not ... there were no other way.
Holy crap, I love how excited he is, this is a dude who loved that job. I feel like he could discipline someone simply by eye contact and sighing, or saying “I’m not mad; I’m just disappointed in you”.
I kinda love the idea of being in this guy’s sub, running up to him with a report that the enemy sub has just fired its torpedoes at us. And he’s just sittin there with his tea going “What?? Crazyyyyy...”
the k-19 movie i wonder if they mean by explode by like the pressure launching the reactor and makeing the sub blow up? or something like taht?
"so what do you think we should do?"
@@hplexicon I honestly don’t know :/ I’m not a biologist, just a bird and cat lover who’d rather we find a different solution than just indiscriminately wiping out every small animal in Chicago by releasing a swarm of feral cats.
When "the simpson" has a better score of realistic than the "K-19: Widowmaker"
Sadly the guy totally misrepresented the facts of the matter. Reactors CAN explode. Just not in a Nuclear weapon type of way. Also Nuclear weapons the Soviets used were NOWHERE near as safe as he would like to make us believe. Look into the R-27 Zyb missile that the Russians had on many of their subs. Damn things would detonate if the fuel in them was exposed to SALT WATER.
@@NoNo-fy3kr He is talking about a nuclear explosion like a bomb...Not a steam explosion...A reactor over pressure explosion, would destroy the boat, but not some boat near by...
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@@NoNo-fy3kr No they cannot, is not a "reactor explosion" is a steam explosion, a completely different thing.
All idiots saying that "nuclear reactor can explode" have no clue what the hell they are talking about. They are melting down, the water or whatever coolant is used may cause a steam buildup and explosion but that has nothing to do with the "nuclear" part of the reactor.
Also a steam explosion is nothing compared with a nuclear explosion. It cannot even be compared with a normal TNT explosion. It is very very weak.
K-19 is a lot more accurate than the scene they showed.
Would love to see him react to all of “das Boot”. It’s hands down the best movie Germany has to offer.
can't believe they didn't show that
Same
Along with Downfall . Germany has some of the best horrors of War books written All quiet on the Western front,which there are already to US made films of , and believe there is now an Germany language version in production.
Hollywood offered to produce DAS Boot .but the Directors did not want the film to have to be changed for their market. It was also planed to be a lot longer hence why it was shown as a TV series in most countries.
@@dayoltay Actually there was a short clip from Das Boot at about 9:43 into the clip
@@harri9885 And it earned a 10/10 rating :-)
My only regret is that this video wasn't longer. This sub CO was so awesome.
I knew immediately that "Das Boot" would get a 10/10.
That is the best WW2 movie out there no doubt about it.
@@normalcitizen_1 and the best submarine movie
@@normalcitizen_1 have you seen Stalingrad (1993)? That is at least as good. And also German.
@@PalleRasmussen yes I have, I think its a bit to cheezy for me and a bit unrealistic when it comes to the schene where a guy is cut in half and screaming for a couple of seconds. ”Cross of Iron” on the outer hand is far more realistic and in my opinion is the best WW2 movie taking place on the mainland
@@normalcitizen_1 I kind of like Cross of Iron as well, but I prefer Stalingrad. I will check with my doctor/surgeon friends, but I am fairly certain that you can and will scream for a few seconds when cut in half; very few things immediately shuts the body down.
This guy has to be everyone’s favorite uncle during the holidays. You can tell he loves telling his stories, and is very enthusiastic while doing so. It’s obvious that he took great pride and joy in his service. Cheers and thanks, sir!
Imagine going to the pool and he dissappears and the kids are like "ATTACK! FLEE THE POOL"
This guy is ACE. i like his enthusiasm and honestly about these clips. 10/10
I always thought the submarine scene at the start of 'The abyss" was good.
I made a comment about The Abyss as well. It looked pretty good to me too. James Cameron tries to make whatever he's doing as realistic and believable as possible. At least I THINK he does. I really would have liked to hear what he thought of the beginning of The Abyss.
Great commentator (and probably commander). He shows passion for his career. I'm sure his man would have followed him anywhere. Please bring him back.
I don’t know what it is about this guy, but he seems like a pretty cool dude. I wouldn’t mind hanging out with him, having some good bbq and a couple beers and just talking with him. I hope he makes a return in some future episodes covering more submarine scenes, or even just general naval combat scenes involving both ships and subs. I really enjoyed his overall enthusiasm.
I agree! I really enjoyed this specific breakdown!
I'll have to watch it again!
Me too! This is definitely one of my favorite episodes.
Yeesh was the sex ok at that bbq of yours with the man of your dreams?
@@killdozer3464 You are exactly correct. Now that I am a civilian my coworkers never understand why nothing ever seems to bother me. To be honest, I feel more comfortable when there is a bit of chaos.
"The most realistic thing in this whole scene is the guy underwater drinking beer."
Some things never change. (grin)
Thanks to Mr. Marquet for sharing his knowledge!
Awesome job! Thanks for your service very informative
One of my coolest medevacs in an ancient HH52A took place off of Washington state. We were tasked with meeting a Los Angeles class sub at a very specific time and location to medivac one of the crew. We established a tight orbit around the lat/long and very promptly the sub popped up to the surface, quickly hoisted the crewman up and in a very short time that sub was gone. Watching a sub rise to the surface at open sea was as cool as flying around the Goodyear blimp while airborne. A once in a lifetime perspective.
Respect.
Was a Trauma Center EMT looong ago (St Luke's of K.C.). Big transplant center too, so reason for a lot of air transports via helo; the classic LifeFlights of the mid-80s, I believe. Giant hospital; had to be 20 floors high (? seemed more). FD blocked the flanking downtown street so the helicopter could drop down to land in the street between that massive building, power lines and near-100 foot old growth oaks, etc (? big hardwoods, hey) lining the park across the street.
I did nothing more than push gurneys or haul equipment but, esp at night, it impressed me to the core and even now in crystal recall seems like a Technicolor fantasy. Helped convince me I had stumbled into the right field as well. Out of it now with too much yammer, no regrets, miss the ... activity ... but landed on a remote Montana farm, which provides enough activity as it is. Cheers.
It's one of the known laws of the universe that Hollywood makes anything realistic unrealistic.
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So glad he gave Das Boot a 10/10, it's one of the greatest war movies ever made.
Would have liked to see Kursk being reviewed though... So I'm going to give this video a 9/10.
Das boot indeed is a great movie.
Also liked red octobre a lot, but i cant see baldwins face anymore ;[
Yes I agree. as when the former Old Man introduced this grate movie it needed to be 10-10
I am dated, graduated sub school the day Thresher went down. When she reached crush depth I thought there was a giant water slug that went thru the boat acting as a piston in a hydraulic system. Heat/pressure some charring from the photo's I seen. Also, she only had two real watertight compartments. Interesting video. Das Boat was filmed in a mockup of a boat's actual size and the actors lived aboard it. My first boat, Rusher, diesel, DBFE, so I can relate to the sailors. Then went to nuke school and sailed in the hotels, SSBN618 and 620.
Well done sir, MMCS(SW)(SS) USN Ret. a long time ago.
I do chuckle these days, when I overhear more “modern” sailors telling someone how it is, versus how it was. All the movies and PR footage show modern sailers in matching uniforms, with fresh haircuts. My memories of a fast attack underway were mismatched uniforms, beards and scraggly haircuts.
Then, with all the uniform changes in the 70s, you could stand 20 random sub sailors up in the mess decks and no 2 would necessarily be in matching uniforms.
Once the hatches were closed, we wore whatever footwear that pleased us. Half the crew wore just a poopy suit and didn’t wear underwear. Those that wore poopy suits could muster 3 or 4 styles and multiple colors, depending on long they had served. We had both dungarees and utilities to pick from and those came in long and short sleeves, some had pullover styles, too. You had white hats, ships logo ball caps or plain Navy covers to pick from. There were the old blue utility jackets, new black jackets (once Navy Blues became black) foul weather green and the old OD Green pullover sweaters for outerwear. My first chief wore dad slippers and would say it was because he was getting ready for his retirement.
We were anything but uniform, except maybe for our 1000 yard stares from lack of sleep during a WestPac and pale completions after a month or 2 submerged.
The former submarine commander not only knows a lot about submarines, but is terrific in commentary.
13:00 _"I'm going to rate this 0 out of 10 because not only it's totally unrealistic but it perpetuates some of the unhelpful myths about nuclear power."_
Thank you Sir! It had to be said.
On a Soviet Ship at the time, if I'm not mistaken, the reactors were the predecessor models to the RBMK reactors, which we know from Chernobyl could explode.
@@hammergodsix Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it would be more a boiler explosion rather than a thermonuclear explosion.
@@manic6030 from my research on Chernobyl, it depends on which scientist you ask. There was a stream explosion followed by, what some scientist theorize based on the data, a low yield nuclear explosion. Of course I'm not a physicist so I'm not sure. It wouldn't make any difference in a submarine though, the explosion would rupture the hull and all of the radioactive fuel would be exposed to the sea.
If you have not watched Das Boot you are really missing out on one of the most realistic sub movies ever. It's slow but totally worth it. It really makes you feel like you are in a Uboat. Such a great job on the sets and acting.
@Entfernter Verwandter - yes, believe it or not"Hunt for Red October", minus the one scene where they play the trick of running for the mountain and doing a 90 deg turn (that was utter Hollywood bullshit). At the time the book was written the book did not use that stupid stunt. I was on the Original LA SSN688, and we did those missions. Even had to sign the paper work that said, and I shit you not "If caught or captured your actions will be disavowed by the U.S. Government, and you will not be rescued. By the time book was written, I had left the Sub and was working for the U.S. Government designing them in Cali but it was like being on duty again, that how real it felt. The movie was otherwise very true to the book.
@@bobh.6108 Hm. A pistol bullet might set off a balistic missile? The whole "110% on the reactor" thing? Having to "get in range" for ICBMs? "Hiding" something the site of a Typhoon in a river? An Admiral in the command room of a destroyer pushing the self-destruct button while the weapon operator is clearly unaware of what this is about, and only *then* identifying himself? A supposedly trained navy man (Ryan) taking a "pleasure shower" on board? Plus lots and LOTS of other mistakes. Sorry, Red October tells a thrilling story, but as for realism... no. Not when comparing it to Das Boot.
I love that movie so much I’ve watched countless times
But I definitely recommend the movie, not the TV series, the series is still good but too long
Unless You’re claustrophobic; I’d rather have Homer Simpson’s job.
Das boot is one of the best military movies ever made. Must watch for anyone into ww2 or war movies in general.
I love this guy, could listen to him for hours
Submarine Commander: "They used liquified lead to cool the reactor if you can imagine such a thing!"
Me who knows absolutely nothing about submarines: "Idiots"
It was actually a very bad idea, as it turns out.
Lol right 🤣
@@johanlassen6448 Why is that? It sounds like a pretty good idea to me, excepting possibly the weight.
@@WJS774 Well, in order for the lead not to solidify you have to keep it running. And that makes it *very* difficult to maintain the engine, as the Russians found out with frequent coolant leaks and one reactor freezing and breaking while out at sea. Which is why the idea of liquified lead was abandoned.
@@johanlassen6448 I'd have thought that the coolant freezing if it leaks would have been a good thing, it would make the system self-sealing compared to if water coolant leaks you get K-19.
I'm glad Das Boot was the only one to have 10/10.
Basically the best sub movie ever made.
@@Fakeaorta I would heartily agree!
such a great movie. quite sad how german cinema has degenerated into reality TV and french-type soap operas
Just such an awesome film... It was shown on British tv as a mini series back in the 80s when I was a lil kid, I was hooked then and still am now.. every second of it is just perfection...
@@dozysplot Did you watch the English dubbed version, or the English subtitled version?
This was great. Really enjoyed this whole video.. The guy doing the commentating is awesome
My dad was on a SSBN and spoke about how the crew's favorite movie to watch was always "Das Boot". He said they watched it so much that the crew could probably work the boat by speaking solely German.
Wow, I love that you got Marquette for this video. The man is a legend in the submarine community. He is an amazing leader and beloved by those who served under his command.
That's cool to know! 😊
He was an awesome Captain. It was a great honor to serve under him.
I was just wondering what it would be like to work in his team. He seems so chilled out, but he'd need to exert authority as well.
Commander: Did you hear that? The propeller sounded like “chchchhchc”, but now it sounds like “chchchhchc”.
Me: uhh... ima take your word on that boss
no, no, he has a point
We used to say "Chicken Fucker" to count turns.
Sound waves that have slightly different frequencies make a sort of beating sound. That might be what he's trying to describe.
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There is a CZcams channel where the guy breaks down a lot of submarine everyday activities, including sound identification and its fascinating, of not maybe a little long winded in technicalities. I believe its Sub Brief.
this man is amazing! i could listen to him for hours
This is the first time I come across a movie rated 0 out of 10. No sentimental rating, all knowledgeable and well detailed. Another experienced analyst here gifted with the power of narrative oration. People like this inspire you to strive to become a master of your craft.
Another thing I like about this analysis is how he not only rated the mechanics of the submarines but also the life within the submariners and the ocean.
I love how he subtly skates around the fact that he's operated in the Black Sea
Nate
Yes you got that to, sea floor mapped out very well. Hmm mm
how did that happen, kind of like knowing every pot hole on your block. Right where each man hole cover is in reference to street center.
I caught that too. Good on him.
Sunken ships are perfectly preserved on the sea floor of the Black Sea. They recovered a Greek Merchent vessel from like ciece 500-700 BCE in near perfect condition. That's 2500+ year old all wood vessel. Even it's cargo was recovered.
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Why do you think that body of water works so well at preserving
What is in water that makes it work. How long after you pull a Vessel out do that start to Destroy themselves, Thank you.
@@rp1645 He mentions it in the video: The water is anoxic. Meaning little to no oxygen. Without oxygen, metals will not rust and most of the microorganisms that decompose organic materials cannot operate either.
One crew, one fight 👊
But the shaft is in the aft
1 crew 1 screw
1 ass , 2 shits , 1 wipe 😔
1 boat, 1 crew,
1 shaft, 1 screw.
Part of the crew, part of the ship
Thank you so much, I really enjoyed your perspective and expertise , nicely done.
I watched Das Boot recently. Gotta agree with the 10/10. Great movie!
Minor point from a former Navy reactor operator: The idea of increasing reactor power another 5% is mathematically useless. While bored underway, we did some numbers and assumed some design specs to have huge safety margins. Basically, the old theory of 4x to 8x power to create 2x speed. In reality on our boat, you would have to push the reactor beyond it's SCRAM setting to even attempt to get half a knot additional speed. Basically, the math says you would be melting the fuel rods before you ever noticed a significant speed change. (assuming you disabled ALL reactor safety functions)
Definitely! This was always my issue with this scene - 5% difference in power at those power levels doesn't really matter - especially in an emergency, you're not gaining anything useful (power/speed-wise) and definitely adding risk.
Not to mention the misunderstanding that there is some switch or dial we can just use to up the power of the reactor, and that will just make things go faster. "Reactor power follows steam demand". It's not the reactor power that is the deciding factor in how fast the ship goes, it's the amount of steam being supplied to the main engines. If you have the throttle full open, you've maxed out how much steam you will be supplying. And all throttles opened wide was still well below 100% power for us, granted that's because I was on a carrier and we needed to save extra power for the steam spikes of cat shots, not sure how it works on subs, but the principle is still there.
@@7Seraphem7 Internet has presented me smart people
"Make the steam steamier!"
"Aye, skipper. Reactors at 110%"
@@7Seraphem7 I wonder if the idea for higher than 100% power from nuclear reactors in the movies, came from the fact the throttle settings on the space shuttle went to 105%?
"You're confused, RBMK reactor cores don't explode" - Anotoly Dyatlov
I think I've seen Graphites
Reactors don't. Their coolant systems do.
On top of that, submarine reactors and shore reactors are two different beasts.
Submariners like to joke that, actually, submarines are steam-powered. Because, truthfully, they are. In its most basic form: hot rock make steam, steam make boat go. The reactor is merely a contained heating/cooling process to create steam by using radiation. That steam is transported mostly to turn turbines which turn the shaft and thus propeller (as well as generate electricity for other systems). That steam cools and then condensates to begin the process all over again. On subs the steam system and reactor system are two isolated systems, so it's not necessary for the submarine to have a robust cooling system in part for 2 reasons: 1, American reactors are designed in such a way as to stop the chain reaction of energy in case of a runaway reactor, and 2, the ocean (in which the submarine is submerged) is the best coolant system available to a submarine, so the ocean is used as part of the cooling process to condensate that steam.
Shore reactors have to have robust cooling systems because they don't have the luxury of being entirely submerged in a constantly refreshing supply of cool water. Additionally, the Soviets notoriously cut corners when building their reactors in order to minimize costs and overhead. As such, the "American" reactors were more expensive because it was more of a process to manufacture and train and implement their meltdown-proof reactors. But with the Soviet ones, they took the risk of an unlikely meltdown in order to save money.
Even in the Soviets' case, reactors still don't explode. That's not how reactors work. When reactors "runaway" or "meltdown" it indicates a compounding effect of their nature - radiation. Normally that radiation is controlled and exploited to transfer that energy to other systems to safely produce electricity. A runaway is the loss of control of how much energy the reactor is generating and is over-powering of those various sub-systems. When reactors "explode", it's always their sub-systems. Mostly their cooling ones because that's what happens when you heat up a liquid - it turns to steam and inside the confines of its container essentially turns into a giant bomb.
@@TheChivalricKnight That's a really good explanation but in the end, it still causes the explosion.
@@TheChivalricKnight Ah but that is the problem with almost all nuclear power plants today they are almost all based on US naval reactors because the navy put in the money to develop them.
The square-cube law works against large reactors. Small reactors like the Nuscale designs make much more sense, or Thorium based reactors. also reactors can explode, indirectly, due to the neutrons separating hydrogen and oxygen in water and making an explosive gas normally the pressure of the cooling system prevents the individual gasses from being gas like CO2 in soft drinks, and giving time they recombine but when released it can be explosive.
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The US submarine that ran aground was going about 30 knots when it hit an undersea mount that the mapmakers the US submarines use the maps from hadn't updated them for that area north of Australia due to budget issues. Where as the sub in the bond movie looked like it was going 10-15.
@Reluctant Human Wow...so that’s your attitude to this thing we call ‘knowledge’? I thought it was a great post
I love this dude and his enthusiasm!!!
15:15 About the "preparing to counterlaunch" scene in Hunter Killer.
They where not preparing to launch weapons against the incomming missles. They where preparing to launch cruise missles at a russian land target (wich would be an act of war) and trying to decide wether to actually do it before the missles hit them.
yeah that shooting down missles probably only works with ciws and radar , and that missle was kinda slow
heard somewhere that harpoon missles or equivalents usually travel at speeds over mach 2
One of my faves in this series. What a cool and knowledgeable guy.
Hollywood can screw everything up. Case in point: The most realistic submarine scene was from a 100% non-Hollywood movie.
Das Boot? It’s very good, and I won’t call it not realistic, but he gave Act of Valor 7/10, which like CANT be accurate, because they literally had an active military submarine surface briefly so they could get the shot
Black sea I've heard several navy guy say it's realistic apart from it not really being a military movie
Hollywood production executives - "Hey, I know, we can make this bad idea even shittier!" I'm always truly amazed when a good movie actually does come out of Hollywood.
Hollywood is magic, a 10 round magazine can realistically shoot at least 40 bullets. Revolvers always have at least 13 rounds and that’s one in the chamber.. ;)
@@loganthesaint and only a couple people get hit none by ricochets and people walk off chest wounds
I liked the fact he rated "DasBoot" 10/10 I agree with him
This is the kind of CO everyone wishes for. Such a cool guy and I bet he'd have been a tough adversary in the case of war.
I could listen to this guy for hours, he’s an interesting guy and has a great way of getting his point across without boring you
Check out his book “Turn this Ship Around”. It was required reading when I was on a submarine.
Can't believe they didn't do the MOST realistic submarine movie: Down Periscope
as a Sub vet I agree I always tell people that ask me what its like to go watch Down periscope and Das boot then make them have a baby.
Can Confirm as a sonarman - " A quarter and...two dimes."
I would have loved to see his reaction to the diesel vs nuclear war game
@@Kintroyj I binge-watched Das Boot and I gotta say that was one of the best submarine films I have watched. The sheer tension portrayed by the film is just crazy.
Well that's because it was a documentary and not a movie.
Thank yoy Sir. I really enjoyed hearing your opinions on these clips.
C est surement la meilleure vidéo d expert que j ai vu. Ce type en parle avec beaucoup d entrain 👍
Das Boot is one of the best war movies ever... it's so dark and atmospheric.
3:22
"You dont want to do this on your submarine"
Well there go my afternoon plans.
I love seeing how the different experts prioritize things and how generous or harsh they are. He gave Crimson Tide one point more than the Simpsons which I find hilarious.
Utterly ridiculous his low rating of Crimson Tide. He made no mention of the fact that Denzel's response is plenty realistic if the Captain tried to launch nukes on his own accord. His position is that the the Sub Captain would simply never try to do that, but there is no way to know what a Captain might do if facing nuclear annihilation of the USA.
Yeah, it seems like he picked the most unique moment of the movie to comment on, which makes sense, but it doesn't do the movie as a whole justice. I would have loved to see him react to the whole thing because it's a movie I've enjoyed a lot.
Great man, really enjoyed that one, thanks guys!
This is Steve Carrell's best character.
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I heard an ex-U-boat commander on Das Boot who said it had two errors: torpedoes being used on the merchant ship (they’d use the deck gun) and the Nazi officer - the way he put it was “we might have left with him but he wouldn’t be coming back”
I'm assuming the comment about the deck gun refers to the sinking of the damaged, burning tanker? Because the deck gun certainly wouldn't have been used against an escorted convoy ship.
Did you mean the german officer?
"I have a National Socialist Airforce, a Conservative Army and a Socialist Navy." - Adolf Hitler
@@JacekNasiadek Actually, no. Not every merchant ship is escorted; German subs had a lot of success sinking them with artillery, and not torpedoes.
@@migmit That's why I specifically wrote "against an escorted convoy ship". Typical youtube comment reading comprehension.
What!? They got a former nuclear submarine commander!? Insane! Fascinating!
Das Boot is probably still the best movie regarding submarine warfare and one of the best naval movies overall right after Master & Commander.
"Das Boot" is definitely the best submarine war movie ever made, everything is authentic when watching it in its original German audio to get the feel of the atmosphere inside a German U-boat.
watching something like that dubbed with American accents should almost be a crime. german nazi captain with a southern drawl.
Japanese samurais with new york accents.
Viking women with valley girl voice.
Watching anything dubbed should be a crime. Except some kids movies.
@@Redmanticore i agree in principle but das boot is a bad example. for the english version the original cast most did the english overdub, and they worked very hard to make the translations and performances as identical as possible. also a lot of the movie in german is overdubbed anyway because audio quality in the sub they built sucked.
k19 the Widowmaker they changed it it's from a Tom Clancy book and based on a true story what actually happened on the Russian sub was the seal for the missile on the exterior Hall formed a leak and the saltwater coming down interacted with the propellant in the missile and the good old communist Soviet system they designed the missiles on their subs the the propellant for the missiles if it interacted with salt water would blow up. Not too bright but that was the Communist way
@@Redmanticore you could just have said German Captain...
7:06 "which we... Urm, Humans have operated in for a long time"
I feel like he just accidentally revealed something he shouldn't have
I think the non-humans he was referring to were the fish, who have operated in the black sea a while longer than humans... lmao.
it did sound like aliens for a minute tho 🤔
@@TheZoneTakesYou It's not aliens. He's referring to USN submarines penetrating the Bosphorus and operating in the Black Sea, a normally _quite_ Russian lake.
I don’t think so. The Russians had a huge submarine dock there, the sea would be swarming with those, which would probably be problematic to navigate, as that sea isn’t very big nor deep.
To everyone confused, I meant that it was funny he corrected it so fast because he "revealed" that America was operating in a sea that they shouldn't be in
My comment was mostly meant to be sort of funny, don't take it too seriously
I think if you have naval interests in the black sea and you DON'T think the U.S navy isn't there too then you're in for a surprise.
Hugely respect your knowledge and experience
Thank you for sharing the same with the viewers of this video
My favorite genre. Great video!
Interesting trivia: You have seen the sub from "Das Boot" in a big Hollywood movie as well:
The full-scale mock-up was used in "Raiders of the Lost Ark". Spielberg rented it from "Bavaria Film", who made "Das Boot".
No way
Raiders came out June 1981. Das Boot came out Feb 1982
@@davemiller6055 i dont know what ypu are implying, but the german movie studio had the uboot in full sitting in their movie studio for years because the movie didnt find investors at first in germany. There was a huge joke in the media about "the landlocked submarine" etc.
@@noobster4779 I wasn't implying something, just noting that Raiders was released first so either there is a story behind this or maybe Das Boot did the borrowing. Seems there is a story.
So do you mean that it is an actual U-boat instead of a set piece?
That's true, and Spielberg even joked that that submarine was a true diva, they had to be extra careful with it, not take it out in rough sea. Side note : the submarine pen shown in Raiders is not a set, it's the submarine base in La Rochelle (France), built by the Germans during WWII. There is another one in Bordeaux, that has been converted into a cultural center. Awesome structures, both survived WWII and allied bombings.