Big dreams, politics and a lot of money: How the NSL was born

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  • čas přidán 9. 05. 2024
  • Before the A-League was the NSL. From 1977-2004, the National Soccer League was Australia's highest level of football. It was also the first national league of any spot. Today we cover the lead-up to the NSL's establishment, over a decade in the making.
    Sources:
    - Canberra Times
    - Sheilas, Wogs and P*******: An Incomplete Biography of Johnny Warren and Soccer in Australia
    - The Death of and Life of Australian Soccer by Joe Gorman
    - The Australian Jewish Times
    - Sydney Morning Herald
    - The Age, Melbourne
    - OzFootball
    - Trove
    - Socceroos
    - Getty Images
    - Hakoah Sydney City East
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Komentáře • 51

  • @Gregemio
    @Gregemio Před 12 dny +5

    FUN fact - Someone rescued the OG Aust Cup trophy from a dumpster a few years ago. Crazy what the game has been through here.

  • @papasmurfette007
    @papasmurfette007 Před 11 dny +6

    My parents took us kids to every Western Suburbs home match at Englefield Stadium (now a housing estate), kitted out with black and white scarves and beanies. Trouble is, my youngest brother and I were Marconi supporters. We did go to Marconi Oval (when it was adjacent to fields rather than houses) when Wests were playing interstate. Even went to away matches at Wollongong and Newcastle. I remember that first year 1977, there were football cards of all the players - but they came in cardboard sheets and we had to cut them up ourselves!. Good times...

  • @presntnow
    @presntnow Před 11 dny +4

    Good video mate.
    For the World Game! ❤

  • @masteryoda498
    @masteryoda498 Před 11 dny +3

    I remember the NSL, I followed it from 1977 to the year 2000, until I gave up on it, as I could see that the game was on life support.
    The current A-League was doing well until about 2017, and sadly it’s been going downhill since, although at least the Socceroos have qualified for five successive World Cups.
    Correction, the old South Melbourne VFL team moved to Sydney in 1982, where they changed their name to the Sydney Swans.

  • @presntnow
    @presntnow Před 11 dny +2

    My First Football Games I attended was in 1995.
    NSL-
    Newcastle Breakers match (opponent unsure?) at Birmingham Gardens (Wallsend).
    I'd go with my Grandfather, we'd arrive early to watch the NYL games before too.
    And we would attend the home games regularly there each season.
    Newcastle United Jets Football Club supporter in the A-Leagues today.

  • @lostjackets4006
    @lostjackets4006 Před 10 dny +2

    Thanks for this video. Just to flesh out the catalytic moment that got the NSL started: you are correct to note that Victorian resistance to the national competition was a factor. My recollection was that the big ethnic-based clubs who were considered as viable candidates for the competition were concerned that the old Victorian Soccer Federation (VSF), who opposed the idea for the reasons you outlined here, would punish them if the national league failed. This would take the form of sending all clubs who went to the NSL back to the bottom tier (Metropolitan Fourth Division) should the NSL fall over. I was only a kid at the time but my memory is that South Melbourne Hellas, Fitzroy (as it was then) Alexander and Footscray JUST were considering making the move but were worried about the VSF policy. It was Mooroolbark United (you have mispronounced the club's name, by the way) who said yes to joining and this forced the hand of the other three. Mooroolbark ('The Barkers") had had a strong season the year before (1976), finishing in the top four and nearly beating JUST in the State League Cup (I was at the game as a spectator). The Mooroolbark president (whose name escapes me, I'm sorry to say. I want to say that his surname was Jones but I'm not sure that's right) was a keen supporter of the national league idea. Once Mooroolbark said it was in, the other top four clubs also committed. The clubs came to a compromise with the VSF that resulted in them fielding reserve side in the Metropolitan Third Division. Indeed, the Barkers went back to that division after falling out the the NSL after the first season. If I may, I'd go as far as to say that the NSL would not have started with a Victorian contingent in 1977 had it not been for Mooroolbark.

  • @pbosustow
    @pbosustow Před 10 dny +3

    Well done on making this video, I didn't know they were considering a national league as early as the mid 60's.
    One small technicality, It was Fitzroy Alexander that was a foundation team from Victoria. They changed their name to Heidelberg for season 3 when the team relocated to that suburb.

    • @ALeagueCouchCritics
      @ALeagueCouchCritics  Před 10 dny +1

      Yeah a fair few teams had different names, so I went with their modern names to avoid confusion

  • @josephj6521
    @josephj6521 Před 12 dny +4

    I remember Perth Glory joining the league hosting Sydney Olympic in front of almost 7,000 in Perth. Perth’s crowds quickly accelerated and it was great to see as a Sydneysider.
    Some great moments. 2 sellout finals at Parramatta Stadium with Marconi vs Sydney Olympic, Wollongong coming back from 3-0 down to win it in Perth in front of 40,000, Brisbane winning it in a sellout at Lang Park (Suncorp).
    I wish Wollongong returned to the A-League instead of MacArthur.
    Then the Pratten Park “riot” and the dude with a cigarette holding up a photographer’s case! Sorry, I had to laugh.

  • @tigers456
    @tigers456 Před 12 dny +4

    Good video. Hope you can continue on from 1984 and describe the history and changes to the league until the formation of the A League. Could become a valuable reference source.

  • @joshanderson9391
    @joshanderson9391 Před 13 dny +4

    Love this sort of content. A history of the sport in Aus would be great!

  • @AdventureDeficit
    @AdventureDeficit Před 10 dny

    Love story telling medium :) Would be great to see some representation of regional community clubs that have been powering along over the last 70-80 years!

  • @damont8462
    @damont8462 Před 13 dny

    Great video mate, was an awesome watch!

  • @adambubba1982
    @adambubba1982 Před 11 dny

    Great work mate. Love this content

  • @twelvie7086
    @twelvie7086 Před 12 dny

    Good video, im sure warens book had a big impact on you making this video! :)

  • @jds997
    @jds997 Před 13 dny +1

    Great video, would love to see more content like this

    • @ALeagueCouchCritics
      @ALeagueCouchCritics  Před 13 dny

      Thanks mate, got a few more ideas brewing and working on another at the moment

  • @paras5435
    @paras5435 Před 3 dny

    Finally someone giving us the facts.

  • @peterbozich4433
    @peterbozich4433 Před 11 dny +3

    Rale Rasic was a great coach

  • @JustIn-mu3nl
    @JustIn-mu3nl Před 13 dny +11

    You should do a vid on why it failed next.

    • @ALeagueCouchCritics
      @ALeagueCouchCritics  Před 13 dny +7

      👀

    • @lukethmpsn
      @lukethmpsn Před 13 dny

      Bosnich wants to go back to the NSL. I'm not looking forward to the race riots restarting.

    • @jdalessi
      @jdalessi Před 12 dny +3

      The NSL was and is and will be more successful than the A-League.

    • @JustIn-mu3nl
      @JustIn-mu3nl Před 12 dny

      @@jdalessi The same things reared it's ugly head with the NSL as well, invested interests and corruption being precedent, rather than the good of the game.

  • @JustIn-mu3nl
    @JustIn-mu3nl Před 13 dny +6

    How did you say Mooroolbark?
    Moo-rool-bark

    • @ALeagueCouchCritics
      @ALeagueCouchCritics  Před 13 dny +3

      Yeah probably got it wrong. Never pronounced it before

    • @biot_travel
      @biot_travel Před 13 dny

      glad it got mentioned .... i am listening trying to think what on earth ;) ;) - great vid tho

    • @ALeagueCouchCritics
      @ALeagueCouchCritics  Před 13 dny

      @@biot_travel Apologies to the great folks of Mooroolbark

    • @JustIn-mu3nl
      @JustIn-mu3nl Před 13 dny

      @@ALeagueCouchCritics All good, surprised me is all lol.

    • @biot_travel
      @biot_travel Před 12 dny

      @@ALeagueCouchCritics :)

  • @DavidPola1961
    @DavidPola1961 Před 12 dny +1

    Lots of fruit shop owners poured their money into that ,Soccer was such an Ethnic game back then

    • @papasmurfette007
      @papasmurfette007 Před 11 dny +1

      At Lambert Park you had to wade through the discarded peanut shells to exit the stadium. And every opposition player was a 'butcher'...

  • @a7128
    @a7128 Před 12 dny +1

    first grand final was 1980

    • @ALeagueCouchCritics
      @ALeagueCouchCritics  Před 12 dny

      But it didn’t decide the championship, hence why I don’t consider it a proper grand final

  • @twelveytwelve
    @twelveytwelve Před 11 dny

    Marrelabark?

  • @sentimentalbloke185
    @sentimentalbloke185 Před 10 dny +1

    It's pronounced Moo-rule-bark

  • @nicegan8902
    @nicegan8902 Před 13 dny

    First in any sport? Did you forget the Sheffield Shield?

    • @ALeagueCouchCritics
      @ALeagueCouchCritics  Před 13 dny +2

      First club based competition. Sheffield Shield is a state-based

    • @JustIn-mu3nl
      @JustIn-mu3nl Před 13 dny

      @@ALeagueCouchCritics I think I read somewhere that Melbourne had the first club competition (football, soccer), mid to late 1800's or something. Admittedly it was amateur and only 5 clubs or something like that.

    • @sentimentalbloke185
      @sentimentalbloke185 Před 10 dny +2

      @@JustIn-mu3nl First soccer comp in Melbourne was organised in 1884.

    • @JustIn-mu3nl
      @JustIn-mu3nl Před 10 dny

      @@sentimentalbloke185 Thanks.

  • @thegraveyardshift8521
    @thegraveyardshift8521 Před 2 dny +2

    Terrible pronunciation of Mooroolbark and Pozniak... great video otherwise

    • @doallwell1
      @doallwell1 Před 2 dny +1

      Ask Robbie Thompson for clarification 😂