How Long Can F1 Use ‘But It’s Monaco’ As An Excuse For Boring Races?
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- Oh Monaco... or should we say Pirelli? With big thanks to our sponsors Yas Marina Circuit, we’re back for our sixth WTF1 Podcast, and we’ve got special guest Jack Aitken (ART F2 driver & Renault F1 reserve driver) to talk about all the news from the 2018 Monaco Grand Prix. What was wrong with the race? Is it time to leave Monaco in the past? We explore this and much more so come and have a listen!
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---- Timestamps ----
00:40 - Jack’s interesting return from F2 Monaco
2:13 - Three word race reviews
3:49 - The problems with Monaco
9:46 - Fan three word race reviews
10:20 - Jack's thoughts on Monaco
13:40 - Verstappen’s antics
16:10 - Is it time to leave Monaco in the past?
18:52 - When will Max improve?
21:35 - Jack admires Ricciardo’s pole lap
23:47 - Hartley to be replaced by Wehrlein?
27:46 - Ocon impresses
29:04 - Hulkenberg causing mayhem
29:47 - Looking towards Canada
30:37 - Top 3 predictions for Canada
33:31 - Indy 500
37:43 - American advertising is great
38:17 - Jack answers fan questions
40:11 - Goodbye!
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Jack seems like a really chill guy, really unassuming and the fame evidently hasn't got to his head. Hope he makes it to the top someday
Tracks aren't the problem. If you watched the F2 race you wouldn't say this was a bad race. F1 has to change cars and Pirelli put some real short-endurance tyres also, and then you'll see a really good show.
f1 is not racing it's politics.....pirelli will do want money wants them to do.....f1 will not change cars as long as they have fans and are a 8 billion$ company....you think the big money dogs that run f1 want more racing and overtaking....no,,,,they want money and that is why monaco is still here....it's not a race its a money show :) f2 another world..... almost every race is fun...f2 it's basically want people wat from f1 but will never get it :)
The only reason f2 was exciting at monaco is because they are inexperienced and they make moves that all f1 drivers have learnt to not make. F2 was fun but only from a drama perspective, the racing was still trash.
i think you're thinking off formula 3 mate
Lol what? Tracks are a HUGE problem. That last chicane in Spain fucks up any runs a following car has. Super smooth asphalt lowers tire deg causing more 1 stoppers. The silly long straight to hairpin tilke dromes. Modifications to tracks with no thought of the rhythm of the tracks. Possibly even the length of the courses.
F2 is the way it is because THE CARS ARE THE SAME. Indycar has decentish racing because THE CARS ARE THE SAME. Chassis, engine, suspension, etc are THE SAME. Hell, the greatly reduced aero in Indycar is actually backfiring a bit.
The problem is, pirelli can't make tires. Out of the top 3 manufacturers in the world they're far behind Michelin and bridgestone.
Completely sick of people whinging about Monaco being the problem.
All Monaco does is highlight what’s wrong with the regulations.
your an idiot. monaco has been a shit track the is unsuitable for f1 for decades now.
Nanderlizer Nanderlizer did the English language leave your fingers? Or are you a whiny 3 year old?
Even if the race doesn't have a lot of excitement, simply witnessing these masterpieces of engineering flying round the narrow streets of Monte Carlo is more than enough for it to be on the calendar.
Hanustheanus agreed I love watching cars go around the track. How differeng drivers take the corners, how different cars behave on different parts of the track. Brilliant.
I disagree, it’s not a race it’s qualifying and then maintain. There’s almost no overtaking areas, 1 DRS, can’t ever get to 8th Gear, walls everywhere, it’s probably the worst race on the roster
>sponsored by yas marina
>always criticizing tracks
>mfw yas marina is a bad track
>mfw i wonder what are they going to say come abu dhabi
Drew bet they’ll say it’s a really good race
Drew >mfw you have no face
D
If you criricise Abu Dhabi you are a racist, so don't let the FIA find out your opinions.
Midas the FIA has a Azerbaijani race a dictatorship responsible for human rights abuse . They don’t care about anything they just want more money
Personally, this Monaco Grand Prix had me on edge. I was on the edge of my seat watching Ricciardo defend 1st and was clenching my ass cheeks wondering if the Top 4 Ultra Soft runners would pit because they were so shocking! Unfortunately there was no safety car this year but I'm always entertained by the Monaco Grand Prix. Hopefully, when the new aero regs for the front wings come out in 2019 hopefully the racing will be better
EvO i love your optimism bro but it will not get better imo, a small tweek to the front wing wont change anything
Daniel O I mean the way I look at it is, back in the late 2000s, before they began developing enplates on the front wings (and remember the cars still had alot of uprights and vortecies like they do now) racing was at its peak. Knowing F1 I doubt there will be a major difference but I just really hope there is. I hate to see tracks get hate for hosting a few bad races and yet no-one looks to point fingers at the aero regulations. Its quite obvious. New aero regs, instantly less overtaking. Its not just the tracks.:(
Daniel O yeah, especially when the front wing is getting wider
EvO great comment. I concur. The race was very tense. Though lewis won spain, it was an incredibly boring gp.
I still love Monaco. I love seeing cars fly around the track. I love thatqualifying is actually important. I love that cars that are behind in the engine arms race can make it up there with a good chassis. I love that pit strategy is actually important. If you just want racing to be all top speed and overtakes I don't blame you, I love that too, but Monaco still has a lot for me to enjoy, I still love it, and the vocal people disparaging the track should remember that lots of us find something to appreciate there.
So ironic this podcast is very critical about Monaco producing very boring races, yet this video is sponsored by Yas Marina, known for being one of the worst racetracks ever made and rarely producing good racing. At least in Monaco when someone overtakes it's usually one hell of a pass
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I live here. So. Yep, the Emirati have all that money and yet can’t do anything right, architecturally.
Well it's probably because it's the last race and no one wants to really take a risk
The only way Yas Marina can get exciting is if there are two drivers in the race for world championship and it will be settled in the last race of the season, but thats more timing when this race is raced then the actual race is exciting to watch.
Yas Marina is boring for the same reason Paul Richard is kind of boring. All flat tracks without depth and character to them are boring.
I personally think street races and tracks with tons of profile are quite entertaining if I'm honest
Finkel - Funk like Macau
Jack's comments are more insightful and interesting than the whole skysports team
Monaco cannot go every year people whine about the struggle to overtake but what about verstappen this year or Alonso in 2010? Monaco is so different from any of the other circuits on the f1 calendar and to remove it would mean that the car wouldn’t have such an awkward race to deal with, which I think makes it interesting. The way it is now the cars need to be fast on circuits that range from Monza to Barcelona and then throw Monaco in there which is just so different than any circuit. other I understand the frustration but if you remove Monaco from the calendar you remove a fundamental part of f1.
We have 1000hp cars flying through narrow streets, around 200mph is very impressive and exciting. The problem is; FOM are doing a shit job of purveying that speed on camera.
we're calling for a change to happen to it or at least something to make it not a snooze fest every fucking year because we're tired of it
The race doesn't highlight what is wrong with Monaco. Monaco highlights what is wrong with the current F1 cars.
Exactly
Nico van Os ffs
Lets be honest, was the racing here great 10 years ago? Who remebers mark webber leading a queue to victory at monaco is 2010 for example
THE CAR IS NOT THE ISSUE
so why is there basically no overtaking in every other formula/race series that goes there.
Christopher Everson There is......
I guess you didnt Watch f2 ....
Nico van Os So we're just pretending that these cars weren't used in China and Baku which were both amazing races? Sometimes we have to face hard facts and the reality is Monaco is just a badly outdated track
When the drivers stop liking it, when the casinos and yachts go away, when it stops being a jewel of the triple crown...
The answer is a sound and firm never. Monaco IS Monaco
Monaco is still the track that requires the greatest driver skill and focus. Thus it should stay in my opinion. And it is one of the only tracks where I will actually watch qualifying because there is a greater importance for that "perfect lap".
Forever, this is the last circuit where you can truly get close and experience the pure speed of F1. This is one of the reasons I no longer go to F1 races and instead choose to attend the WRC.
How to bring back action to F1:
bring Daniil Kyviat and Verstappen in 1 team.
So back to Toro Rosso for both of them? Think they started in the same team didn't they?
So basically, Verstappen becomes NASCAR's new Jacques Villeneuve.
......Aight.
Idontreallycare have a race where:
Stroll
Palmer
Kvyat
Magnussen
Grosjean
Maldonado
Start next to each other. That’s entertainment.
Dam guys and gal... Ricardo won the race and barely talked about it. The heart break he went through after 2 years of hunting for that trophy. The reason why Monaco is valued so much because it's part of the triple crown of racing. Instead of the bad let's value the good. Make the podcast exciting at least you guys were more boring than the F1 race lol. Love you guys but got dam
Yeah, it was odd. I mean the whole Riccardio story was what made the race watchable and then it got nearly no coverage here. Two races in a row now where we got to hear 30% of discussion about how bad the race/track is/was.
I don't get you people...
"Pirelli should make tires last 1-2 stops and mix the strategy"
*Pirelli does exactly that*
"Omg whyy pirelli did you give us short lasting tires uuuuggggghhhh"
Zeyad AlAamer You're not wrong. These new tires were literally supposed to last longer, but not they're the problem and they want the old ones back...
Hamilton did say something afterwards I found interesting that he had talked to the people in charge and they said they could potentially open up more roads (wider ones) to make it longer and potentially better.
For once I agree with him. We don't need to lose Monaco but rather update it.
For once? Lewis usually has great suggestions. Haters just find it hard to admit it because you know...he's Hamilton.
how about no
Well if it was boring to watch, just enjoy the fast monsters of cars just going around the streets of monaco, it’s happening once a year and there only TWO WEEKS TO THE NEXT RACE... so calm down.
The constant tension of whether Ricciardo would make it to the finish or not with that MGU-K failure made the Monaco Grand Prix more exciting to watch than the Indianapolis 500, in my opinion.
Vincent Bruins tension? U gud bruh
There WAS NOO tension after the first 10 laps of daniel having that issue because if the car was going to fail it would have failed already
Daniel O I don't think you know how cars work. No offence.
no offence taken (I'm an engineer myself) the issue Daniel had with the MGU-K whilst costing him a lot of performance stabilised after 5-10 laps as shown by his lap times. The MGU-K is like a turbo to a car adding that extra performance but if it fails the whole car wouldn't fall apart unlike a turbo (because your air intake is directly going through it). It was extremely well managed by Daniel but it was not tense , even if vettel got near him he wouldn't be able to overtake
Daniel O I'm not an engineer. A car can act like a human body, as in when one organ fails (the MGU-K in the car in this case), it can cause other organs to fail as well. I was told by a friend I was watching the race with who has done his first year of automotive engineering in college, an MGU-K failure could cause some serious engine damage. Knowning what you just told me, makes me realize that what my friend told me wasn't completely true. But believing Ricciardo's race could have been over at any moment, made the race exciting for me and I think quite a lot of casual fans without too much knowledge about F1 cars would agree.
yeah I see where you are coming from man and I agree that casual fans would find this exciting :) Though maybe I did not share this same excitement to your degree because I support Hamilton (who was struggling throughout the race).
Am I right to assume that you are a Riccardo fan? If so where do you think Riccy will be next season and wdyt his chances of winning Canada are?
It was a funny coincidence when Hartleys team radio said Lecerc has a problem let's build up an advantage then 10 seconds later BANG! Lecerc is in the back of the Toro Rose.
These podcasts are brilliant. Just what I needed. Thank you!!
I quit liked the race. The anticipation to see if the tyres would last; maybe Lewis would drive in the pits early and push it throughout the race or if the top 4 would pit and bottas had a shot at the win kept me interested. We don't need a crash every race to make things interesting.
I really like it when Jack is there to offer a driver's perspective. Sometimes as spectators it seems that something is boring or more simple it seems but having a driver there to explain how it actually works makes it way more interesting. Keep bringing Jack back! :-)
The first F1 race I watched was the 1990 Monaco GP. I didn't watch another Grand Prix for 25 years. I think that about says it all.
Oh my fucking god, what is everyone's fetish with as many overtakes as possible? It should be quality, not quantity, as Eddie Irvine perfectly said, it's like fishing for minnows. What's the fucking point?
Bring back refuelling so that they need to make more than one pitstop a race and can push from the start instead of being as heavy as a tank.
Okay, Monaco is often a procession and I can see how many people find that boring. But there is a current trend that everything needs to be action all the time - not just in F1 but in everyday life - with social media, fast food, TV on demand and internet on phones. I feel it's very important to enjoy the journey, not just the destination - in F1's case the strategy and stories of the race rather than just the total number of overtakes otherwise we will just end up like Indycar with rules aimed at creating entertainment rather than an actual sport.
My first memeory of F1 is as a 4 year old watching Mansell hound Senna around Monaco in 1992. Many of the complaints about this year's GP couid be applied to that one, but it remains in my memory long after anything else. I love good racing, and if every race was the same I can see the argument - but the sheer driver skill and bravery around such a tight course should be showcased occasionally.
F1 shouldn't be viewed solely as entertainment - it's integrity comes from competetiveness, history and technical genius. It is the pinnacle of motor sport - not only for the driver, but for the engineers, strategists, designers and manufacturers. Monaco shows all of that. If you said football was too boring and if a game ever got to 80 minutes with a goaless draw then automatically 3 more balls would be added to the pitch there would be an outcry. Real, competetive sport is sometimes predictable and dull, but that means that when you get a good match, race, round or whatever it is genuine and it is incredible. It's so sad that we live in an era where people value their rights as a viewer higher than the feats performed by the sportsmen and women.
It's super cool having an actual driver in these videos. Great insight from a driver's perspective. Please make this a regular thing.
When I saw the break Fail all I Heard was Jeremy Clarkson yelling IV GOT NO BREAKS
thanks for the timestamps :)
I didn't realise driving millimetres away from the armco at high speed was boring. Thanks for enlightening me.
That's because we're not driving. If we were driving, we'd probably find it more invigorating than simply watching the race on the television as a spectator.
I'll say this much - between watching the Monaco Grand Prix and the Indy 500, Indy drew much more of an emotional reaction from me. Read into that whatever you want, but at least Indy entertained me more than Monaco did. Little wonder why Fernando skipped Monaco last year, frankly...
it is boring in the race when none of the drivers are pushing since they know they cant be overtaken and they cant overtake and all they need to do is save tyres. qualifying is better than the race.
The track isn't the problem.
It is the fact that F1 are becoming bigger and no place is given to the others.
Look at the F2 race in Monaco.
It wasn t Boring
Compulsory to use three different compounds of tyres during the Monaco race will cause a mix of strategies and make it more interesting
if there had of been 1 safety car then everyone would have been saying how exciting the race was. just leave it the way it is
Really, I hate that there are many boring races on the calendar now but actually Monaco is the one track where I'm completely okay with a boring race. Every other track that can't deliver good racing with modern day cars - fuck off. (Sochi, Abu Dhabi....)
But Monaco is just Monaco and it's the ONE exception that I'm making
Fans of F1 need to stop being so critical of the sport the races have never been so good....people keep referring to the good old days but the cars have never been so close before from front to back when years ago some cars were 4-5 seconds off the pace and some dreadful pay drivers thrown in also. In every sport you have good races,matches,events etc and bad ones that is sport in general.
Race review:
"Two hour's wasted!"
Disappointed, have been liking the podcast, but this was just 40 minutes of complaining, I can get that for people in rl. Suggestions to improve would be better, such as making the track longer, making the cars smaller, the future areo changes. I enjoyed the race despite lack of passing.
and yet they have the nerve to criticize hamilton. Ironic isn't it.
I think we forgot to really appreciate the effort of a driver during a Monaco race, almost 2 hours of being on the edge, knowing one tiny mistake and it's done, 70-80 gear changes per lap. I can't even begin to imagine what Daniel felt during the race. First he feels he has no power and he's gutted. He can't let that take over him because his engineer tries to keep him focused and keep going. Then he has to manage this problem, while having a mirror full of Vettel behind him, with only 6 gears and shifted brake balance. All of this topped by the previous pressure of being Monaco and all. I think we should be grateful we have a track that really puts a driver to the sword like this, Monaco has never been about overtaking, but a test of nerves, reserve and skill.
Anyone else remember when Baku had one bad race and Matt said “ i’m wearing a shirt brighter then the future of Baku F1 circuit”
I am so thankful they put a list of what happens in the description
Monaco 3 word race review - "Better than Spain."
Monaco is for the rich and none of us would be talking about how boring it is if we had the money to be there in person. If you could afford to go every year, then it would be a whole different animal. This is one of those events where there is no substitute for being there.
The real problem lies with the car regulations (size and aero), not the track itself imo
Rodrigo how come the cars are fine at every other track then?
the cars are fine at every other track?! have you seen the Australian GP this year? they had to add a third DRS zone and there was still a very low no of overtakes..
it's extremely difficult to follow this season (and in the last two, for that matter) because the cars are so reliant on aero grip and that ultimately causes a lot of dirty air making it incredibly hard for the car behind to follow. The chaser can only hope to overtake using DRS (when it gets inside the 1s gap) or the tires will deteriorate quite quickly by trying to follow in turbulent air.
Cars should rely more on mechanical grip and less on aero, F2 is the perfect exhibit - a lot of exciting races.
The cars are fine at every other track you say, Callum Tanner? Erm, no, just no. They really aren't.
Astrostevo well they are because you can overtake there have been 5x as many overtakes at other tracks than at monaco, I'm not sure about you but that's a massive difference
in regards to the comments around 16:30, I'm a brand new fan into the F1 world, coming from WEC Le Mans and Monaco was one of the first full Grand Prix's that I watched and tbh I found it quite exciting. I am a massive Red Bull fan so I might be biased since Ricciardo won and Verstappen did well to climb up into points but I still found the race interesting.
I think the main reason drivers and fans may be bored of Monaco is because it's every year. If you race it every other year it becomes something a bit more special, the drivers and fans wont be burned out on it from seeing it every year and it will encourage drivers to perhaps driver harder since they can't just "Try next year" if they don't get the win. Imagine how much more tense it would be if Ricciardo had to wait 4 years instead of two for his redemption, would have been even more tense.
As a person who *hates* driving Monaco in the F1 games, the fact that I have that kind of feeling about that particular track is already reason to keep it in, specifically because it keeps the rest of the season from being stale. There's a good 4-race run to start off the season with Melbourne to Sochi (Baku in 2018), And then we get to the slog that is Barcelona where the AI is far and away the strongest, and after that is Monaco where I crash so many times a full-distance race weekend takes me 6 hours instead of the normal 4, especially with the gearbox on its last legs and a power unit set that isn't that fresh either. Barcelona and Monaco are that awful hump in difficulty that after you've gotten over, you've got Montréal, Silverstone, Spa, Monza, Singapore, Mexico City, and Interlagos to look forward to.
7:52 Who remembers "Rosberg! We partied in the amba lounge!"?
As an Australian, I found it great to watch.
they've done it for over 60 years, i see no signs of them stopping
Jack providing really good insight and enjoying Matt almost anchoring the show and providing structure. The other two seem to either chat shit or waffle on about something that everyone already knows.
An idea just popped into my head. I didn't finish the podcast yet, sorry if it was mentioned but I've not heard it anywhere yet: take a note from indycar, but not in the way commanly talked about. Make teams design an aero kit specifically for street circuits. It kind of goes against the cost cutting issue, but worst case scenario, it is actually a universal wing design for 3(?) races. I'd also suggest thinner sidepods but that doesn't necessarily make the cars thinner; they'd need to completely overhaul the suspension. But ateast the car would follow better. And I'm sure there could be a way to execute this that actually does help cost cutting.
Clearly 'F1 Fans' in 2018 have never watched a Monaco F1 race prior to 2015
they've got to keep the track as its one of the coolest and iconic. but change something in the rules and regs to allow for closer racing
Calling every single non baku race boring is getting pretty old... seriously i wonder how long some of you have been watching F1... It was never meant for the viewers entertainment.
People shouldn't go after Hartley because F1 is the toughest form of motorsport in the world and it isn't easy coming from one completely different form of motorsport to the top tier of the sport.
Endurance is harder.
If people think F1 is the "toughest", those people need to actually watch other motorsports other than F1. V8 supercars, Endurance racing, hell even indycar is alot tougher.
We have seen what happend with Hockenheim! They destroyed the circuit. it was such a beautiful track and now all the historic is gone. Imagine Monza is of the calendar.
Maybe, if Ricciardo had full power to his advantage, the extra pace might have played into the hands of the tyre strategy and we might have seen more gambles on a two-stop strategy, with the field being more spread out. As it was, drivers were able to nurse their front left blistered tyres by lapping 4seconds slower a lap than ultimate pace (adding about 3minutes or nearly 3x quali laps to the overall time of the race)
how about we lengthen the track. I say we could, instead of turning by Rascasse, continue down to the port, loop next to bars and restaurants and back to the main straight. There! Two decently long straights for passing, though it might be a tight hairpin.
People try using Google Maps and come up with realistic ways of making this track better.
would like to see what you suggest.
Jonathan Meyer great idea
Portier. Turn left a the exit of turn 7, and then come back. Better corner to follow the person ahead of you, and the run to the chicane is longer
Or maybe go straight along the quay behind instead of around the swimming pool like they did in the '70s. Off the top of my head I'm not sure if there's anything in the way to stop that.
Jared Bowhay-Pringle I like that but I don't think they'd want to get rid of that grandstand
Jared Bowhay-Pringle The pits are in the Quai
Monaco is like this: Let's throw a big party, get together in a more relaxed manner in this posh principality, schmooze with sponsors while prospecting others, and have a blast during practice. The race is only relevant to whomever is the winner.
You obviously did not see the race.
Hey guys I have another talking point which is the TV licence for 2019
One bad Monaco race and everyone is on there period
Joey It's hardly just one bad Monaco race, it's been boring for years with very few exceptions...
look, over there, a period.
Your spelling skills are on there period
THANK YOU SOME ONE GETS ME ON THIS
He’s got a point.
I don't know. I enjoyed the race and when rewatching it a second and third time I liked it even more each time. Those cars and those teams/engineers/drivers are freakin amazing.
The real reason Ricciardo was relatively unchallenged was not because of 'Monaco' or 'dirty air' as such, it was purely because of the graining on the tyres. In the first stint, they were all going slow to stretch the stint as the engineers were aware how bad a tyre the ultras were. The tyres yet again were the downfall of this GP.
So the first F1 race I watched was this years Monaco GP and I LOVED it (although that might have been because Ricciardo is awesome) I do however think some corners need to be modified to enable some strategies to work. Just my 2 cents.
This was my first race, I´m trying to get into the sport, and I found it very entertaining. Got me excited, actually. My two cents as a newcomer.
The audio is very muffled, hopefully this will be fixed in the future. Good podcast
Thankyou! ❤️
It helps that Monaco is run during the same day as the Coke-Cola 600 as watching that 5 hour snooze fest makes Monaco look more exciting in comparison
Christoph5782 in either way Indy 500 was better than Monaco
Personally the only thing that really disappointed me about Monaco were the Pirelli Tires. Personally i think F1 should make drivers pit more than once at certain tracks. Monaco being atleast one of them and may Pirelli will have a better tire for next year that doesnt get as destroyed after a handful of laps at maximum race effort.
Summary: Better Pirelli Tire and F1 forcing certain tracks to pit more than once. Examples (Australia, Monaco for example.)
But with the new Front wing packages hopefully gets rid of the dirty air issues.
Add a joker lap XD
Karsten ve Mandatory drive through for each driver for monaco
That's a good one
19:08 - "Quick and exciting, but he makes mistakes". True, but every other driver makes mistakes. I agree, Max needs to calm down more, but the constant singling out is getting really childish and just looking for a bandwagon to jump on. 19:12 "Patience and smarts can win you GP". Right... but that was mostly thanks to his quick qualification. Emphasis on "quick".
The problem with Monaco this year was simple - no one gambled had hamilton or bottas or raikkonen, especially the last two who really aren't in it for the championship rolled the dice pitted when there was a gap , been 5 secs faster and just thrown it down the inside on the championship guys it could have been a cracking race
I swear this channel always talks about how boring ____ is with F1
Only thing you can do is making a wetrace. But never remove Monaco from the calendar.
Monaco is a contrast. Especially with DRS, most tracks give too much of an advantage to the car behind. This just switches the balance of power between the driver in front and behind around.
ROSBERG! We partied in the Amber Lounge!
The problem was with tyres, not the circuit. Yes, not easy to overtake at Monaco, but this was exacerbated by the tyres. It's still a great circuit and worthy of its place in the calendar.
I would have loved Jack Harvey or Stefan Wilson to win the Indy 500
3 words to distribute the Monaco gp "I watched indycar"
Monaco has always had less over-taking. But before the stupid 2014 penalty system you would see overtaking. In fact between 2008 and 2012 there were 2 great Monaco races filled with shunts. The points system now means less overtaking and so pretty much no overtaking at all at Monaco.
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I need to tune into this more often!
Make the Indy 500 a championship round again!!!😂
or just strap a rocket to the cars
I think people that would watch only Monaco would love it, the speed, history and prestige. And as Jack says F1 is affiliated and known for the Monaco GP.
Comepletely agree with the three word reviews of Matt and Tommy.
Got to keep Monaco, but change the track a little bit, take out the chicane after the tunnel and make it a long straight as another DRS zone.
Interesting strategical gameplay.
Monaco one of these GP's that need to stay in f1. It gives f1 an identity. I normally watch fp1, fp2 and fp3. Monaco has the best practice sessions. Same for qualifying. I just really like the circuit. Funny thing is I liked the race. It was so much more fun to watch in the cockpit channel. I watched 50% of the race on this channel.
I really enjoyed the race, only disappoint for me was Seb not pushing harder when Riccardo first had issues. I think Ferrari were playing it safe, expecting his car to fail. There may have been an opportunity to make something happen when his brakes were overheating and before the Ferrari tyres went.
I'm not a Vettel fan, but I think the fans were robbed a bit.
Monaco has been an issue since the intro of 70's wider cars. The width of cars and narrowness of the track guarantees basically a procession with zero overtaking and allways a safety car.
Its a shame as other parts of Monaco have accomodated other motorsport races, such as WRC.
The only difference is most of that circuit is away from the harbour and the uber rich watching ( when they can be bothered) from their yaughts.
Monaco needs to radically change the layout and length of the circuit to give drivers, teams and tv viewers a great day of racing.
The excuse it's "Fuck you, we are formula 1, and you will always love us regardless from what we do"... And also when it won't guarantee the same huge income, just look at Silverstone, Nurburgring, Imola ecc... They were historical, but...
Great podcast !
You mentioned the 500! Hell yeah!
A solution could be a to have a minimum number of pit stops. If this year 2 or 3 stops were mandatory the long queues would have a chance to be mixed up.
The fact is that Monaco and honestly quite a lot of the other tracks are just too short for a real F1 race
Two solutions: 1. Make the minimum track length longer (or even better have a minimum expected average speed: straights = overtaking) and, especially for Monaco since every part of the lap is iconic: 2. Make the race track different from the qualifying track. Add a huge straight to existing track so the high downforce qualifying setup is useless in the race, and it means people might risk a low aero setup in qualy.
There is literally a giant motorway next to the current track that they could extend the track down. 1 mile straight + hairpin + another 1 mile straight bolted on the original track would be legendary.
I'm sure people that praised Danny's pole so hard have never seen Kubica wrestle his Renault. He was even closer.
F1 should start using DIFFERENT CAR SPECIFICATIONS for extreme tracks - JUST LIKE INDYCAR does it for oval circuits. For a track like Monaco there could be tyres that are half the width (diminished grip) + trimmed wings (diminished downforce) and the cars would be harder to handle and more exciting to drive. And they would overtake.
I know that Monaco is boring, but it is part of F1 history, and it have to be always in F1 calendar
MARIOGIOVANNI BASSETTO that is a poor argument, because the Malaysian Grand Prix is also part of Formula 1 history, but it is no longer on the calendar. The German Grand Prix was brought back this year. Races have been added and subtracted throughout Formula 1 history, so, no, it does not always have to be on the calendar.
Are you going to be in Montreal for the canadian grand prix?
Monaco should not be taken off the calendar, full stop. It's a legendary track, even other people with supercars want to visit this place like it's the Mecca of motorsports.