The Kray Twins Graves. Ronald and Reginald Kray Chingford Mount Cemetery. Famlouse Celebrity Graves
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 30. 04. 2023
- Reginald "Reggie" Kray (24 October 1933 - 1 October 2000) was an English gangster and the twin to his brother Ronnie Kray. Active in the 1960s in London, the twins were the foremost perpetrators of organised crime in the East End of London during the 1950s and 1960s. With their gang, known as "The Firm", the Krays were involved in armed robberies, arson, protection rackets, assaults, and murder.
Ronnie and Reggie are buried with their older brother Charlie Kray.
Their parents Gary Kray and Violet Annie Lee are also buried in a family plot alongside the infamous gangsters.
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Loved this! A mother will always love her children no matter what life brings! RIP to you all đ
Thanks for your latest on the Krays Alan. You presented a very measured view of them without sensationalising what they did.
As you quite rightly said, they were most likely products of the time and the way in which they were brought up.
Lovely to see you back †xx
Hello Kay, there's certainly become good entertainment through the films, but when you think it's based on reality, it's not so nice. It still happens abroad protection rackets... there was a restaurant burnt down in Athens Greece the other day because they didn't pay for the protection but I think it's a lot less in the UK now but I'm not sure. Maybe it still goes on. Thank you for the great comment. Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep It wouldnât surprise me at all if it still doesnât go on in some way or another these days Alan. You presented a very balanced view of them.
Canât wait for your next one! Take care xx
@@kayroberts2536 Kay X
Thank you Alan for a great video. I don't know what it is about the Krays but they did achieve a certain fascination and notoriety. Some people now view them as legends when really they were nothing more than vicious thugs. Good to see you, take care.
Hi Joy great to see you! There is absolutely no excuse for violence and killing. I agree. It's not a case of survival like animals. It's a case of notoriety and wealth. Interesting subject but not anything to be admired the opposite. Thank you for your insight. Regards, Alan
I think you sum it up it's not a life you would want is it?
Fascinating Alan, thank you. They really did have light and dark sides to them. You are so right about kindnessâ€
So pleased you are doing The Krays, a BIG Thank You xx
Janet they were certainly infamous but also interesting đ€ I wouldn't have liked to cross them :-) big thank you!
Visited the graves yesterday came from Warwickshire have a weird fascination with the Kray twins I watched your video before arriving really enjoyed it thanks for taking the time
Loraine
Great Video Alan ... i saw some of Ronnie's painting come up on flog it the other day ..made a tidy sum
Thanks for another interesting video and some interesting comments always enjoy your videos looking forward to your next đ
Hi Alan. Itâs so lovely to see you back đ€ xx
Hello Kay It's super to see you. Big thanks!
Hi Alan, another good one, thank you. Iâm a little surprised they have been laid to rest in a church yard as I thought it might become a bit of a shrine to some people, thank you
Hello Martin, some people just like notorious people and I've got to admit I've enjoyed watching the films, but I certainly won't want to anything to do with their lifestyle all the best, Alan
Hey alan. Loved this one the films made of them were great too. Learning something new every time I watch one of your videos brilliant. Looking forward to the next one. Take care sweetheart. Xxxxx đčđčđčđ
Hello Karen, thank you. We all learn everyday and sometimes as you get older it means more which is a nice compensation for age. I meant every word. Look after yourself. Alan
Good to see you back Alanđ„° That was a Great Video ..I was always fascinated by the Krays ... đđ
Hi Debbie missed your picture and comments :-)
Thank you much appreciated very interesting đ
Thank you Alan.
I've visited their graves because my niece and nephew, who were both stillborn, are buried here and my sister lives around the corner. My family grew up in East London and my Dad knew off them but never met them thankfully. Great video.
Hello, Susan very sorry about the stillborn sorry ....At least I was in your neck of the woods. We are connected by the infamy of the Krays fortunately:-) Take care, Alan,
Very nice video Alan.đđ
Just been on a catch up very interesting Alan, keep up the good work đ
Thank you Tang
one of the twins wrote to me after my young son was in a road accident offering any help i needed , i think they helped lot more then they hurt ,but hey back in the day guess things were different , rest in peace to all there family and themselves
How interesting Diana. That shows a nice aspect of the character. Thank you for that.
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My birthday was 7th September 1966. X â€ïž
Jet oh I love violet xxvâ€
Still tracking on x
Thanks love the Kray twins one. I'm a cockney and my dad was a driver for them in the 60s. Got a few stories to tell. X they were mean but kind as well. Weird x I love your stuff xxx
Hi Gubton I would absolutely love to hear the stories from your dad. They lived a very strange life. They had to be so intimidating, but they didn't have a kind side I think it was fighting fire with fire with them. Thank you for the great coming. Alan
I do enjoy visiting this location, always quiet too. Good work!
Great video again Alan keep up the good work
Hello David is very nice of you to comment and take the effort you look after yourself
Hi Alan, they were a fascinating pair weren't they, even today they generate so much interest. The Kemp Brothers did a sterling job portraying them. Great video and pictures. Take care.
Hi Sally Hi Sally if you enjoyed the Kemp Brother which i liked but think the one with Top Hard who plays both brothers is really good :-)
Legend (2015)
With Paul Anderson, Tom Hardy
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep thanks for the recommendation, will watch it in near future.
@@sallychanning3723 let me know if you do đ
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep I watched Legend and it was fantastic, much more gritty and real, I thought Tom Hardy portraying both twins was amazing and made for perfect casting. Thanks Alan. đ
Great to see you back Alan đ
Very encouraging Jude :-)
Wow well Iâve learnt a lot from this Alan thank you đ
Thank you, Rowan love you hat
Another good video Alan, very interesting. I suppose we all have a bit of a fascination with the notorious two. I've enjoyed the films of their lives. A lovely message from you also ... go forward and be kind where you can. Nice to see you back videoing Alan and look forward to many more. Thank you.
Hello Louise, I think what spurred me on on the day was I didn't want to condemn them because I'm sure they had good aspects but I didn't want to celebrate there well known protection stuff which is a joke. When you think about it, protection means you've got to pay or your protector turns on you... Have a lovely day..... By Alan
Thank you Alan for a tremendous video it's strange that the krays became famous on violence and crime and also it's a sad story of Reggie first wife Frances who killed herself because she could not put up with the life style she had with the kray family that's another story keep the good work up Alan
Very well said Karl it is strange how we have that fascination. All the best mate
Hi Alan. They were notorious and one of them not so much wicked but mentally ill. A very scary family. I didn't realise that they were all buried in Chingford. Thanks Alan always interesting videos.
Hi Mags I know they are close together, which I've got no problem with. But I do feel some conflicts when you think about what they did. But I know that even the worst criminals rationalise it out and feel they were good people.... Very strange. Thank you for your interesting comment...
Have no idea who allowed them to be buried in Chingford cemetery as they were not residents.
I have several family members buried there who were all either born or lived in Chingford.
Hi Alan thanks for doing this one I love the krays story. I watched the movie called legend starring Tom hardy who did a super job portraying the twins. Hope all is well with you đ
Hi Cathal I couldn't have said it better myself mate. Tom did a phenomenal job of the film, acting both characters. You truly believed it was the two very different real-life twins. I agree. It's a fantastic film. What an actor he is.... Hope you're doing okay on your super-channel buddy best Alan
Thereâs not a lot I can say about this only RIP †brilliant video on your part though till the next one đ
Your videos are so interesting
Really enjoyed this one
Thanks a lot Steve. I wouldn't like to have been their best friend
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep me neither lol đ
Nice job Alan! â€
Cheers Robert
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep Quality Mate! đ
Hello alan thank you for your interesting video, i remember the krays terrirising london in the 1960s best wishes from sue and vic
Hello, Sue and Vic lovely to see you. Hope you're keeping okay and have a nice weekend. Look after yourself both of you....
Lovely to see you back Alan, I hope you are well. Gawd, what a family - personally I'm glad they never got out. I will apologise for saying this on your channel, but as much as most of us seem to have a morbid curiosity about people like this, I hope they are both rotting in hell. Again, nice to see you back đ
Karen HUG :-) Thank you ever so much for your great comment that's sweet of you. I think it's a mental problem with a lack of empathy, but when it comes to killing in a painful and disgusting way there isn't really anything to protect them with the exception of mental illness and fighting fire with fire. I'll just say that. So kind of you. Thank you see again i hope
Thanks for the video. I thought they'd have better and more lavish headstones than that tbh
Good to see you out and about again.
Hi Joe It's great to hear from you. Hope you're doing okay this bank holiday :-)
Thanks Allan I have the movie ov the krays with Gary and Martin kemp and few more dvd violet worshipped the boys rip kray family always treasured and never forgotten god bless you all â€â€â€â€â€â€â€â€â€
User they were definitely very colourful characters who became showbiz. Thank you for your wonderful comments my friend
Ur very welcome Allan appreciate everything you do xx
Hi Alan, thanks for another great video and story, really enjoy watching in Hull East Yorkshire, have you considered visiting here to see Mick Ronson and Arthur Lucan (old mother riley) graves in Eastern cemetery, just a thought.
Take care Regards Steve Young
Hello Steven, I've taken the screenshot so I'll keep that in my to do list. Thank you! Great for the suggestion and thank you for the positive comment. That's lovely of you. See you soon. Alan
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Hi Alan as always you are a great video maker with always a smile take good care safe driving keep beeping I wonder where you will go next mate Paul O Grady who just was such a kindhearted human being he alway made me chuckle sad he died so young bye đ for now Sandra
Thanks for the ideas Peter. That's really kind of viewing. I also liked Paul. See you soon. Alan
Alan great Video ,they were a product of thier areas and importantly the times they lived in, who are we to judge.
Thank you Peter. That's very kind of you to encourage me. All the best, Alan
Thanks Alan aww bless you for sharing this they love there mother and Francis Reggie wife never hurt women or children I was lucky to visit the grave and tears đđđđđđđ flooding down my face rip Reggie and Ronnie xx
Hi, Lise l do think they were victims of their upbringing and that social time. They did love their parents not everything was bad. Hope you are OK Alan
@@LiselCrimble-dr3mm Great speaking with you! I hope you're subscribed. if you are you'll get the notification. Have I lovely sleep tonight Lisel. Hug
Unfortunately they were murderers and garnered a lot of notoriety. They lived through a dangerous time and neither of them had the best lives but people seemed to remember them fondly and the twins had mental health issues. Seen the films with the Kemp brothers and Tom Hardy. Thanks for the tour which was informative đđ
Hi, Anita I totally agree with you the times were tough and good observation. But I think you've got to admit that they could have gone down the routes of normality and lived. Sometimes women see powerful men as attractive which is the basic mentality of the protector of their family. But when it's evil women that follow this kind of man make a terrible choice, a minority. I agree they did have mental problems sad for them also ... Thank you
Thank you Alan the Kray twins ruled a part of London back in the day and for some reason were admired by many or was it fear?! lol. It was great to see where the Kray family are laid to rest. đđđ
I think it was just the world. They lived They fought fire with fire đ„ thank you for the lovely comment Alan
Hello Alan, great video, I like the pebble creating a ripple effect in our lives. Youâre right, the meaning of life is to be kind. This was an interesting video, you did a brilliant job as usual. The Krayâs had no empathy and no moral values. They were a vicious chilling pair. Sending you love and best wishes Alan, I know times arenât easy but your kindness will come back to you and hopeful bring you comfort and good days ahead. Take care. Joan.
Hi Joan As always, you just showed what makes humans something special which is to explore our existence and to be kind and to love. And then we have the opposite humanity which is worse than basic animals to kill unto pain without survival depending upon it. Nice to see you! Hope you're doing okay. See you again soon đ Best thoughts to you Alan
Thanks Alan loved the kray twins rip â€
Please do you enjoyed it Paul
I have a mate that lives in chingford, i pop down now and again and i always put a few roses on francis grave, her story is a very tragic one, so tragic. Good to see you back Alan. where have you been Bahamas. đ Always look forward to your Videos mate.
Hello James, I know she seems such a sweet woman in a very difficult spot and it was such a tragic times in her life. She is the one I always feel very sorry for. Thank you for the lovely comment. Take care Alan
Great story of famous people you've met. Good to see you back any more lives coming up ?
Thank you fWooWoo for your interest. I did meet quite a few celebrities for a few years but they're just people who got a breaking show business but it makes interesting stories sometimes. Kind of you. Look after yourself. Alan
hello alan nice to see you and thank you
Leeann i missed your name :-)
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep keep in touch Alan
Love u doing Alan. My family hated them â€
I don't think there to be my favourite people either. Thank you mate
Long time no see. Hope you're well. The krays lived a very hectic life good and bad. They were very much in the limelight with celebrities. Think Barbara was either going out or married to one of them. I remember watching a film about their life . A very interesting story Alan really enjoyed it told very well and detailed well done. Lovley seeing you again take care love from Gill Holmfirth West Yorkshire â€ïž
Hello Gill nice o see you again. I haven't been on for a while but when but I'll be doing more of them when I can. I think Barbara went out with Ronnie Knight who was also a gangster so she mixed in this circle. I don't think I'd want to if I could have :-) Look after your garden. See you soon. Alan
I was hoping you'd do a video on the Krays. Thank you! â€
Ronnie was apparently a handful. I know someone who is the relative of a person who was very close to them and according to this person, Ronnie was involved in things that would today have tarnished his name. He loved 'younger' brown skinned males.
Their legacy is a very interesting one. Love them or hate them, they were compelling.
Hi, Aman I think you've got the right word there compelling... Very interesting to get a little feedback on possibly the real person. Thank you. I find them interesting and I've enjoyed the films and documentaries, but on the flip side, I am disgusted by their lifestyle that produced money. I think it was based on animalistic emotions that we all have to some extent which we try to suppress.. some with better results than others. Nice to see you Take care A Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep gangsters are all about getting ahead in the quickest way possible, nomatter what the cost. A fast paced lifestyle that usually brings a lot of fortune in the quickest time, but it always ends badly. And usually the family or associates bare the brunt of their involvement, as was the case with Reggie & Ronnie.
What gets me is how Ronnie was openly gay at a time when it was not only a punishable crime, but it wasn't seen as a very masculine thing, yet he was still feared and garnered respect.
Thanks for another amazing video. They're currently getting me through a turbulent patch!
@@AmaanStorm I'm obviously not an expert on psychology, but I've read a little bit in the past I believe the more dysfunctional the relationships, the more violent. The weakness of the mind produces violence to exist and because it's the smallest circle they have to impress and exist. You are very observant because I never thought about that aspect of Ronnie I think he was emancipated with his sexuality.. the proof of the pudding was in their existence. People were too scared.
Interesting to hear
Hello Alan, and hello folks. If I may, I saw a documentary many years ago, can't really recall much of it but the man who caught the Krays Detective super Leonard "Nipper" Read apparently was in two minds at the time as to whether it was a good or bad thing for the East End of London. On the one hand yes they were criminals etc etc etc but he said during their time the East End was much safer for the old folk and honest ordinary people. Almost no house burglaries or common assaults or "street crime" etc, as the would be small time villains were very wary of the consequences of getting on the wrong side of the Krays. It is a fact they helped a lot of "ordinary locals" and would not see harm done to innocents, but of course their crimes, all of them were dreadful and not to be ignored. Also they were "very fond" of young lads, but no more about that here. Of course on the South side of the Thames the Richardsons were the leading gangsters who "ruled" but little mention of them anywhere. Oh and also the pub, the famous "Blind Beggar everyone thinks it's the pub in the main road but it isn't, it's a small pub down a side street.
" Brilliant little post as usual Alan. Take care folks and be kind to each other.
I'll see you a point. Chris, in a way there were policing the area. It's just that they're used hands-on tactics to fire with fire, but sometimes innocent people felt the weight. I guess it wasn't our bad but it wasn't to be allowed. Really is no excuse for murder. Thank you for a brilliant post. Take care, Alan
Charlieâs son Gary is buried with Frances, I believe just his ashes.
Matt Monroâs parents are also buried at Chingford Mount.
Hello Bohemian, interesting. Do you know where Matt Monroe is?
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep he was cremated at Golders Green. Then the usual, ashes collected by family member etc.
@@thebohemian. I remember that now you told me but thank TB
Not seen you for while been on holiday lol
Not exactly Ken life a bit too busy but thank you for commenting. It's Great to see you mate.
Great video Alan 100%. But I need to you this joke? Hope you like it
Out of these two gangsters? My dad told me he bought a car from the Krays in the sixties? I said,
âWhat Reg dad?â Ronnie I think son? đđ
I like it. Paul could you imagine if the car was dodgy who would that to take it back when complain? If you did you won't even be able to walk đ Cheer's mate
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep couldnât do anything could you just smile and put it down to learning experience. Imagine how many kids adults they intimidated over their lives? Keep up the good work Alan love your vids and your dedication! Superb! X
Hi Alan thank you for doing this one. They were notorious and I donât know if any of them actually killed someone but they certainly orchestrated it by other people. I saw the movie with Gary and Martin Kemp playing them and it was very good. Wasnât Barbara Windsor married to someone who was associated with them if I remember rightly?
Hello Sandra, she was married to Ronnie Knight. He was a robber and had to hide in Spain so he couldn't be arrested. They did kill people that was why they actually went to prison and the reason they were caught is there did it in front of an audience which was a bit silly. Thank you for the good lovely comment Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep thank you Alan. Wow,now I am going to look them up and Ronnie Knight too.
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Cheers for film was from the east end now live in cornwall..remember both funerals was at chingford at the time..and remember limehouse willy at the stow club walthamstow toasting the death of ronnie in 1995 with chopper watts and a few faces
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Hi Alan great video mate. I get what they stood for it was a way of life. But being a dad of identical twin boys age 6. I would not want that for my lads to spend a day in prison. Let alone 30 years. Waste of life. Cheers bud.
Well said English bull. It was really a disaster other lifestyle I agree đŻ
Can you do Mary Whitehouse
Nice idea i look thanks David
They was the only two people who were in prisoned in the tower of London during the 1950s because they refused to do national service in the Army and avoided the draft, thank you Alan your dear friend always Rod đžđđ€đđ
What are fascinating fact, Rodney? It's very strange when you think about that, they were connected by that imprisonment at a such young age in the tower of London, but Rod, I love that one!.... Great to see you friend, Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep Thank you ever so much my close dear friend Alan cheers for now Rodney Roger brook đđ€đ„đžđŹđ§đ
The Krays tried to move in on Birmingham but were run out of town by the Fewtrell brothers.
There was a nun following you on the scene
Get out of it. Next thing you'll be saying she came from Nuneaton!
The Kray Family
Rest in Peace
The Kray Family
May you all be in Peace
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Yes totally Kay
I went to see Paul Sykes grave the other month
I met reg at maidstone i must of been the only one who was clueless as to who he was. He was next door cellie to my late partner.very polite always said morning or good afternoon when he saw me.
My father said he had a bit of bother with a Kray spiv who threw a rock through my bedroom window when I was a baby. The rock landed in my cot and missed međ
Wow Jacqueline, you came very close to an encounter glad it missed you. Nice story
When they tried their shenanigans up here in the north east they left very quickly and never came back.
Really? I didn't know that
Itâs funny how many creepy people lay flowers and pretend Reggie was a great pal of theirs
I had always read that they were not interested in messing with the public and only acted against those that caused them trouble. Basically, if you stayed out of their business, you had nothing to worry about. I am not saying this is true, but have read this several times from different sources. They will always be both famous and infamous.
I also read that they were the type of people that have fire with fire and it was their environment and upbringing so I do tend to agree with you it's just that when you look at the biography of some people they come up from these kinds of backgrounds and move away unfortunately they never did.
And Barbara Windsor and Diana dors and politicians were highly friends with them xx
Poor Frances, ended her own life to escape them and ends up buried right next to the whole family
I do know they werenât the nicest of lads but I always think they looked after there mum there wives people they loved and never did any harm to innocent people it was gangsters against gangsters always been fascinated by the twins thank u Alan đ
Hello Francesca, yes I know what you mean but you got to also remember that day around the protection racket which is intimidating the normal public so they weren't just confined it other gangsters. But there are an interesting subject. I agree. Thank you, Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep Iya Alan totally agree I do believe innocent people where caught up in what the twins where involved it and a lot of them people would of intimidated by there body language there appearance etc but as much as I hate it i know there murderers they are fascinating even after there long gone
@@francescajohnston1470 Do you believe Francesca, beneath it all...there is a primal thing. Women like strong, powerful men. They go killed a wildebeest and men like they mothering timid women... So there fit perfectly the powerful violent category... I read that women often like the bad boy but in reality, they wouldn't. But I agree a fascinating pair and can you imagine anyone facing them and saying the pen is more mighty than the sword? ahahahah
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep totally agree đŻ Alan
Allan I have seen the movie and watched all the docus, they were ruthless but also highly regarded it seems in non criminal families and people because they gave them help. But life took them on the wrong road, but nevertheless we are told God also cares about the sinnersđđ
Hello Annette, I totally understand. Not everybody is totally bad. They would treating fire with fire đ„ I'm just gone. I didn't have to involve myself in that world. Thank you for your reasoning. Alan
Any chance of John Bonham? Steve, Cumbria.
Good idea Steve. I'll look into it mate
WB. Hope you are doing ok? Some people sadly did/do aspire to be gangsters and the krays etc are their idols. The mafia as awful as it is, is also very intriguing. The Krays were the UKs Colionis. Tc Alan till next time. X
Hello Free Bird, yeah there became bigger than they should have been really. I think the films are good but they were awful times. Really? I don't think they should have been classed as celebrities. What is Colionis? CU Soon Alan
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I found out after marrying my ex husband. That he worked for The Krays, he ran away and changed his life to escape them
Interesting story on the Kray twins, but to be honest, there better of where they are 6 feet under so they could hurt no one else. l can understand it was the lifestyle at the time they can now rest in Peace
Hi Daniel I used to read psychology as a hobby and it's very well known that most hard criminals almost totally believe they are really good people. They rationalize all the bad stuff and I hundred percent agree with you in reality they are better where they are. I hope that forgiven by a greater power. Take care friend
love them or hate them there part of my EAST END history cant turn your back on it they were what they were
to day there,s worse people in the east end we dont no of r i p ron-reg and there mum all the family