Brilliant 👌 Thanks Alan 😘 I remember the Lena Savaroni documentary it was 😢 And the George Michael and T Rex and my favourite. . Dusty Springfield ❤ all fantastic 👌. . Thankyou xx 🌷
"There's a taste in my mouth as depression takes hold" a line from Love Will Tear Us Apart. You just need to read between the lines to know there was no coming back from his dark place. Such a waste of a young life he was so talented in his lyrics. Thanks Alan nice to see you back ❤
Hi Charmaine well observed about the line. People do write about what they know and it's ironic that this dark style of music was popular. A lot of writers of books and music said that if you're too happy, you tend to become mediocre. Look at Rumours by Fleetwood Mac. When they were all splitting up they did their best music. Thank you ever so much for encouraging me. You're a star! Much love to you, Alan
Thank you for your respectful talk and visit. As a huge fan of JD (and a sufferer of epilepsy myself) I can understand the anxiety Ian went through. What should override this sadness is to highly embrace his talent as an amazing song writer and the fantastic production of an ever loved talented band.
Thank you Alan. A tragic story, he was obviously in a dark place and couldn't find the light. Such sad, haunting eyes perhaps a forewarning of what was to come.
Grew up in the 80’s music era! Love will tear us apart is so eerie now! God bless him! In my job we deal with mental health issues! It’s hard when children age 9 and 10 are worried about money! Life can be tough at times. Good to see you back Alan and keeping well.
Hi User sounds like you do a very worthwhile job and these jobs can be difficult because of your feelings I can appreciate. Thank you for the great comment as always. Alan
Hi Alan ...was very sad that Ian took his own life ...i had the film and my sister in law watched this film and shed cried...i absolutely loved Joy Division ..Ian was a very deep man ❤ such a shame ❤
I wasn't a huge fan either, Alan, but I can listen to them for short periods. What a tragic life and death. I live near Macclesfield cemetery, so I'll call in at some time and pay my respects to a troubled young man.
Glad to see you back Alan, lan was born the same year as me,, such a sad and tragic story. He had a great singing voice and his whole life ahead of him, such a talent, such a waste. Rip lan......
Thanks Alan, I remember Joy division growing up, it was a sad end to Ians life, great commentary I resonate with some of the private elements in his life,cheers Alan.
So sad. Like they say “You have to be young and stupid to grow old and wise” Unfortunately some of us take away that opportunity from ourselves simply because life is simply too much to bear. RIP 💜💜💜💜 Thanks Alan you are looking well and nice to see you. Best wishes Jon💜
Hi Jon That's a very good point about growing up. We all have to learn the hard way and sometimes things go against us. If we're unlucky and it's fantastic to see you again my friend. I've missed you. Look after yourself. Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep My pleasure Alan! I find this content fascinating i really do! And you describe it with real passion! Respect for you! And thankyou!
Tragic story al what a shame so young can’t say I’ve heard of him before he had a beautiful face this saddens me so much I lost my daughter that way too and a freind who tried to hang himself but in the end I think he died of alcohol poisoning he was an alcoholic and both so young only in their 30 s tragic thanks Alan for telling his story your a kind wise man much love to you ❤️😊🙏
Extremely sorry to hear about your daughter Crystal. Life is so uncontrollable sometimes. I also had a a very good businessman friend who hung himself. We can't totally know what other people are going through 😞 I'll send you a hug Alan
Its great to see you back Alan. Those sad ones are always the hardest to do. I don't know too much about Joy Division but his story is not unique unfortunately. A lot of celebrities take drugs to cope with the pressure of what they do and some can't cope at all. A very interesting story well told in a nice quiet cemetery. All put together made another fantastic video. Well done buddy.
Hello grave days! You're a real gent you're always so positive about my films. I appreciate that greatly. He was taking drugs while he was at school. I think he had mental problems for sure, which makes young life really difficult. Especially like you say with the pressures of show business, it's better to live a normal life the possibility of all that extra money doesn't make it worthwhile if you can't handle it. At least you and me are handling are superstadom with relative ease. It's always great to see you. Thank you Alan PS we will meet up one day I'm sure 😄
Great vid. I went there in January as I love ian curtis and joy division. ❤ Just a snippet of info about the house, the kitchen (where he hung himself) is round the back and the front left window was his music room. Keep up the good work, I really enjoy your vlogs. 😊 x
Hello Leslie, thank you for that information about the location. I didn't really want to get too morbid about it, but it's good to know Thank you ever so much for the comment my friend Alan
Hey Alan, great video. I first heard of Ian Curtis and Joy Division from a Viewers Special video from Arthur Dark(Hollywood Graveyard), it was after watching that video I looked up the song Love Will Tear Us Apart here on CZcams. Pretty good song, I believe sometime after Ian's death the remaining members of Joy Division became New Order. They would be known for songs such as Blue Monday, True Faith and Bizarre Love Triangle. Once again great video Alan, much respect from the U.S.
Hi SCN that's very kind of you too encourage me and also that information was very interesting. I have no idea about New order either. I'll look them up to see if their style of music changed. Oh it's nice to know I'm managing to get as far as America sometimes I've been there a couple of times in the past. Maybe I'll manage to get over and do some graves in the future 😀 take care, Alan
What a sad story Alan and such a young age to take his own life he must have been very low in himself and what would he become today in his music career if this tragedy had not have happened well done Alan for a very respectable video
Hello Karl I think his whole life was quite depressing so it's not surprising what I really needed was some psychiatric help possibly. All the best, Alan
This is such a sad story Alan. I did not realise the circumstances of Ians death. How sad. Richie Edwards from the Manics was due to fly out to the States to do some promotional work. He left his Hotel in London and has not been seen since. I hope he is shacked up in an old cottage somewhere in Wales. The pressures these young men and women were and still are putting themselves under must seem relentless. Sad, sad story.
Hello John, I'll take your word on that because this was the one I didn't know anything about until I researched and I didn't get the music but a lot of people do like it. Thank you for telling me Alan
Hello John, I'll take your word on that because this was the one I didn't know anything about until I researched and I didn't get the music but a lot of people do like it. Thank you for telling me Alan
Hiya Alan, i remember watching ian curtis perform in my youth and instatly thought this guy was a troubled soul very sad ,great tribute from you and brilliant expression of words about life itself,AMAZING ALAN
Nigel thank you for your recollections you knew about Ian much before me I only started to research him a few weeks ago. And I have a problem I produce the film sometimes and I get intrigued. He had such a dark mentality and I can't see why. And this music is so well thought of by some people that I think I should do a backup video when I know more :-) thank you much appreciated look after yourself, Alan
I am so glad you did a video on this. Ian was a great songwriter. Without him there would be no New Order. Thanks for sharing I enjoy your content. A very happy subscriber from Canada.
Just came across your video’s I love them! Ian Curtis very sad story I remember when he died and the Brilliant ‘Love will tear us apart’ I’m catching up with all your videos you’re a lovely sensible down to earth man and love the little gems of advice you give. You’ll see me in the comments again! Thank you for all the research and professionalism it’s appreciated in this often unprofessional world! X
Hi Alan what a tragic end to a very talented musician. Like you said all the money and fame doesn’t mean it makes you happy especially if you’ve got troubles and are not mentally well. Great video and insight of this young man. Keep up the good work and can’t wait to see the next one 👏👏👏👍
Hank I've never really gone anywhere. I just disappear into the hamster wheel of life but I'm retiring so I have more time. Thank you for the encouragement! Great to see you as well. Alan
Joy Division, may have been short lived, but the influence that they exerted was 'Gargantuan'!! And that was more than in part, as a result of the 'enigmatic genius' of Ian Curtis!! I
You prove the point Adrian, I'm afraid I'm an ignoramus regarding their music but they've not have been amazing cuz other people echo your statements. Thank you, Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep You are 'far' from being an ignoramus Alan! And your 'high calibre' content emphasises that! It's an electric range that you provide and so far it has 'hit the target' with your subscribers, and long may that continue for you Alan! Thankyou & Huge respect for you!!
Got to see Joy Division in concert. Ian wasn’t the best live singer but he certainly had stage presence. The concert is in my top 10 favourite concerts I’ve been to.
That's it Mollys I'm missing something because when I watched the music it just looked terrible. But I can say that sometimes it's in a quiet taste. Or maybe I'm just too old now but I'm Very happy that you enjoyed the concert. All the best, Alan
Absolutely Diane it's unbelievably dark I think he's our personality unfortunately seems to be in that direction his parents try to stop him from watching depressing things so very very sad agree thank you Alan
Glad you are back,Alan.Ian Curtis story reminds me of Pete Ham of Badfinger.Both Gentlemen suffered from depression and sadly died the same way.Take Care,Sir.
Hi Alan. Thanks for your video. I don't know much about Joy Division I must admit but what a truly sad story. It is so easy for us humans to get overwhelmed with things in life and your advise is very good. To think that some people make that awful decision as they see it as the only way out is horrendous and so very very sad. I think that things change and if you are not in a good place at the moment that moment will change at some point. Thanks again Alan.
That's it Louise. Well said. I think that is the most important thing that in a certain moment things can look terrible I even do it myself sometimes now but then I try and catch myself and think just wait. I think A lot of humanity just tend to all look at the worst scenario when things go wrong. Thank you very much. Best regards to you, Alan
So well said Alan: time always teaches us lessons. Your video and a beautiful day in Macclesfield ease the pain to all of us remembering how young Ian was when he passed away. I was lucky enough to have the "Unknown Pleasures" album (although, in those days before Internet, I didn't hear about his untimely death for sometime after.) Their sound and THAT artistic album cover left a deep impression... only years later to discover the "artwork" was based on the radio frequences emmited by a Pulsar star.... 1980 was, for me, so special with such diverse "pop" music! That summer I camped at Knebworth -among 180,000 others - and watched... The Beach Boys.. Elkie Brookes.. The Blues Band.. Mike Oldfield.. Santana.. and, top Newcastle folk rock group, Lindisfarne!! I'm sure yourself Alan - and your followers - have wonderful memories of music back then, whether it be Joy Division or any other group... ... and, crikey, these last 45 years have passed so quickly! Thanks again for your enlightening and memory jogging work Alan.
Hello Leo I never realised the cover was the frequency of a Pulstar how unusual. I've got a feeling that if I did listen to the music I'd probably start to get it but initially I didn't like it and I only knew that hit single. Fantastic that you did all the camping and experiencing. Well done! It's something I've never ventured into when I was younger those times. Will it be magical for you?. Fantastic to meet you. Take care my friend. Alan
I always like your analysis of life, writing things down etc. What a shame for his daughter and his wife having to find him like that after everything.
Hi Donnnna absolutely I've seen the picture of his daughter nowadays as a young woman it must be terrible to be that low that you leave the people you love. I did have a good real-life friendly that hung himself it's a very unusual story.
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep Alaaaaaarne, it is a terrible tragedy that maybe given a few more years/more experience under his belt that maybe Ian might have been more prepared for the life he was leading - it was a lot on his plate for his age, even though I know people married and had children much younger back in the day. Sometimes (I think personally) you're either a coper or maybe not so much. I'm sorry about your friend.. I tell you what, it would be great I think to meet up one day and have a blooming good old natter about life the universe and everything! 🌍
@@DonnaGB333 Nobody knows Donnnnna but I believe I was the best friend of a businessman who hung himself age 42 he had lots of issues and I knew he was dark in his thinking they didn't even tell me or anyone when he did it so some people never escaped even when they're older. Thank goodness we're not in the same place take care, Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep It's so sad to think people have underlying issues that feel so deep that this is the only way out of them or cannot escape them/put them on the back burner for whatever reason. They feel so huge that there is only one way to get away from them because the issue/s cloud their thinking and judgement completely.
Hello Alan, as always a great VLOG, like you I knew little about him so your story was informative and sad. Having been to several suicides in my past occupation it’s always extremely difficult to accept and appreciate the mind set that makes a fellow human being do such a thing. What could have been done to change events etc? A year older than me, what a sad end with all that talent and potential and such a burden for his child to carry in their life.
Hi CFP makes me think you have something to do with the the police. I agree you just can't imagine being so low when people are so young but it happens. A business friend of mine 20 years ago took his own life and I was one of his closest friends. He had a dark mentality but nobody not even his family knew how bad he didn't tell anybody when he hung himself. I think we're the same year as well 😎 all the best. See you again soon I hope. Alan
I've missed my favorite bear hello Yogi I haven't been anywhere I've just been busy too long boring story but I'll try to keep visible I've got a few films in the bag and I'm doing a new channel also the summer take care my friend Alan great to see you !
Hi Alan 😊 I don't know much about him either, but of course, I know the song Love Will Tear Us Apart. It really is dificult to comprehend someone's state of mind to get so bad they feel there is no other option. So very sad and the anniversary of his passing is coming soon. I hope wherever he is now, he is at peace. Thank you for the video 😊
Hi Karin I did personally know as a friend businessman who was a friend who committed suicide in the same way but there's something very different about this story because from a very young age, he seemed to be drawn to the subject of death and I can't quite put my finger on it but there's something very strange about his personality and mind. As per usual I'm intrigued and looking into more active filming! Thank you Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep Yikes, it's something we probably will never know. Everyone's brain is wired differently and in some cases, this is what happens. My younger cousin did it years ago and nobody ever knew the reason, he did it with the car exhaust. Well, whereever they all are, we can only hope they are now at peace
Marion you and me both I'd heard of the group and knew the hit single but I never listened to their music and I've got to be honest it's not my style I think the drummer seems good but some people think they were excellent so horses for courses.
Hi Alan where have you been thought you’d dissapeared good to see you great video very sad lovly looking guy beautiful memorial place I’ve missed ya take care 😊❤️
Hi Kay That's a very good idea thank you for the tip I know of Mary and their profession that beyond that not a great deal but I put that on my list and do a bit of research thank you :-)
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep there's a documentary on her shown most weekends after 22.00 on freeview channel 83 Very sad story, shes buried in North Holmwood Church, Nr Dorking Surrey Huricane Smith pop star from the 60s who was also the beatles engineer is buried in the next door church Newdigate als
Thanks Alan, one of my absolute favourite bands ever. I gather he really didn’t take care of his epilepsy very well at all and my feeling is he just got married too young.
Hi ilanarhian I think you probably got that right? The only thing I don't agree with I don't like the music. But then again I haven't listened to it much. I think I'm probably missing something. Thanks for the great comment. Alan
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I've never heard of this guy until now.Don't know the music at all. A very interesting vlog which has left me with a very uncomfortable feeling and a lot to think about.
Hi Alan trust you are well I was watching a youtube video of This is your life it was about Kathy Staff and Crossroads Alan it was good presentation Kathy husband John was there and their daughters and some of the cast of Summerwine
Hi Hance I hope you're feeling well. She was a great actress. I actually saw her in the canteen at a television studio where they were doing crossroads comeback program about 20 years ago. It didn't last very long 😄 take care, Alan
I suppose if his wife had been there that night he would not have committed Suicide, but who knows he may have done it on another day. Either way it is a big tragedy. Thanks for the interesting video Alan.
Don't mince your words, I have to admit I didn't know their music either and it's not for me but Jeremy Vine okay he earns too much but I can stand him.
Oh Alan how sad - he would have been my age bless him . Like you didnt really know his music, more a Queen fan but like a lot of talented people he was a tortured soul- great to have you back my friend missed your wisdom! Take care, and dont be a stranger! X
Hello, Carol yes I am a Queen fan also.... quick funny story once met a man who was in the army about 25 years ago and he had a picture of Freddie Mercury in his house and he was proud he looked similar and I pointed out the reason for the name of the group and he was shocked it made me laugh at the time :-) take care of yourself and thank you, Alan
Thank you Alan it was very sad that Ian Curtis took his own life at a young age 😢. He was very talented I hope he’s found peace 🙏.
Brilliant 👌 Thanks Alan 😘 I remember the Lena Savaroni documentary it was 😢 And the George Michael and T Rex and my favourite. . Dusty Springfield ❤ all fantastic 👌. . Thankyou xx 🌷
And you Sandra are also fantastic that superbly kind of you to encourage me look after yourself Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep xx
Evening how sad such a young age there’s not enough help out there to help people RIP young man Gid Bless ❤
"There's a taste in my mouth as depression takes hold" a line from Love Will Tear Us Apart. You just need to read between the lines to know there was no coming back from his dark place. Such a waste of a young life he was so talented in his lyrics. Thanks Alan nice to see you back ❤
Hi Charmaine well observed about the line. People do write about what they know and it's ironic that this dark style of music was popular. A lot of writers of books and music said that if you're too happy, you tend to become mediocre. Look at Rumours by Fleetwood Mac. When they were all splitting up they did their best music. Thank you ever so much for encouraging me. You're a star! Much love to you, Alan
I hope Ian is resting in eternal peace. ❤
Thank you for your respectful talk and visit. As a huge fan of JD (and a sufferer of epilepsy myself) I can understand the anxiety Ian went through. What should override this sadness is to highly embrace his talent as an amazing song writer and the fantastic production of an ever loved talented band.
Hi Lisa I hope you are okay and thank you for sharing your empathetic regarding his what it's like to live with. Regards, Alan
Thanks so much, Alan, for the great video. RIP IC & I trust you're well at rest, having dealt with your demons. God bless you, son. ❤😂❤.
Hi that's extremely nice of you
Thank you Alan. A tragic story, he was obviously in a dark place and couldn't find the light. Such sad, haunting eyes perhaps a forewarning of what was to come.
Exactly Joy. He had a history of depression and he even tried to kill himself before he needed medical help probably.
Grew up in the 80’s music era! Love will tear us apart is so eerie now! God bless him! In my job we deal with mental health issues! It’s hard when children age 9 and 10 are worried about money! Life can be tough at times. Good to see you back Alan and keeping well.
Hi User sounds like you do a very worthwhile job and these jobs can be difficult because of your feelings I can appreciate. Thank you for the great comment as always. Alan
Hi Alan ...was very sad that Ian took his own life ...i had the film and my sister in law watched this film and shed cried...i absolutely loved Joy Division ..Ian was a very deep man ❤ such a shame ❤
I think you have a wealth of knowledge found beyond mine Donna but I'm so pleased you enjoyed watching
I wasn't a huge fan either, Alan, but I can listen to them for short periods. What a tragic life and death. I live near Macclesfield cemetery, so I'll call in at some time and pay my respects to a troubled young man.
Hello Elizabeth! It's easy to find. You can work it out from the video if you decide to go. Thank you for the comment. Alan
RIP Ian Curtis ❤
So sad that he felt he had no other way out. I don't know his music either. You give wise advice about feelings Alan. Good vlog and always respectful.
Thank you ever so much Allison for taking the time. It was very kind of you what you said. Regards alan
Glad to see you back Alan, lan was born the same year as me,, such a sad and tragic story. He had a great singing voice and his whole life ahead of him, such a talent, such a waste.
Rip lan......
Thanks Alan, so sad such a young talent. RIP 🙏
Hi Faz they do try more nowadays with mental health but absolutely the guy had everything going. Was still very sad
Thanks Alan, I remember Joy division growing up, it was a sad end to Ians life, great commentary I resonate with some of the private elements in his life,cheers Alan.
Okay Peter but don't resonate too much. Keep well my friend
So sad. Like they say “You have to be young and stupid to grow old and wise”
Unfortunately some of us take away that opportunity from ourselves simply because life is simply too much to bear.
RIP 💜💜💜💜
Thanks Alan you are looking well and nice to see you.
Best wishes Jon💜
Hi Jon That's a very good point about growing up. We all have to learn the hard way and sometimes things go against us. If we're unlucky and it's fantastic to see you again my friend. I've missed you. Look after yourself. Alan
Ian is just one of many 'troubled geniuses' who sadly succumbed to his demons!! Fine work from you once again Alan!!
That's pretty kind of you Adrian you have encouraged me 😄
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep My pleasure Alan! I find this content fascinating i really do! And you describe it with real passion! Respect for you! And thankyou!
EXEPTIONAL FILM AS ALWAYS ALAN!!
Where do I send the money :-) thank you Rena
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep ahahaha!!!
Really interesting thank you for making this. RIP Ian Curtis
well done Alan.....some wise words at the end.. cheers!
Hello Roger, It's good to have a little bit of wisdom, but even more important to act on it. 😄 Thank you friend
Thanks Alan, Very sad story. ❤
Thanks, Twinn yes nobody would want this he must have had many problems
RIP Ian Curtis 1956-1980
Another great video Alan thank you
Thank you very much Sonya
Tragic story al what a shame so young can’t say I’ve heard of him before he had a beautiful face this saddens me so much I lost my daughter that way too and a freind who tried to hang himself but in the end I think he died of alcohol poisoning he was an alcoholic and both so young only in their 30 s tragic thanks Alan for telling his story your a kind wise man much love to you ❤️😊🙏
Extremely sorry to hear about your daughter Crystal. Life is so uncontrollable sometimes. I also had a a very good businessman friend who hung himself. We can't totally know what other people are going through 😞 I'll send you a hug Alan
Its great to see you back Alan. Those sad ones are always the hardest to do. I don't know too much about Joy Division but his story is not unique unfortunately. A lot of celebrities take drugs to cope with the pressure of what they do and some can't cope at all. A very interesting story well told in a nice quiet cemetery. All put together made another fantastic video. Well done buddy.
Hello grave days! You're a real gent you're always so positive about my films. I appreciate that greatly. He was taking drugs while he was at school. I think he had mental problems for sure, which makes young life really difficult. Especially like you say with the pressures of show business, it's better to live a normal life the possibility of all that extra money doesn't make it worthwhile if you can't handle it. At least you and me are handling are superstadom with relative ease. It's always great to see you. Thank you Alan PS we will meet up one day I'm sure 😄
Hi mate good to see and another video thanks for sharing so sad for a young man of his age may he rest in peace
It's the worst one I think I've ever done regarding the lifestyle. Poor young man.
Heartbreaking
Great vid. I went there in January as I love ian curtis and joy division. ❤
Just a snippet of info about the house, the kitchen (where he hung himself) is round the back and the front left window was his music room.
Keep up the good work, I really enjoy your vlogs. 😊 x
Hello Leslie, thank you for that information about the location. I didn't really want to get too morbid about it, but it's good to know Thank you ever so much for the comment my friend Alan
Hey Alan, great video. I first heard of Ian Curtis and Joy Division from a Viewers Special video from Arthur Dark(Hollywood Graveyard), it was after watching that video I looked up the song Love Will Tear Us Apart here on CZcams. Pretty good song, I believe sometime after Ian's death the remaining members of Joy Division became New Order. They would be known for songs such as Blue Monday, True Faith and Bizarre Love Triangle. Once again great video Alan, much respect from the U.S.
Hi SCN that's very kind of you too encourage me and also that information was very interesting. I have no idea about New order either. I'll look them up to see if their style of music changed. Oh it's nice to know I'm managing to get as far as America sometimes I've been there a couple of times in the past. Maybe I'll manage to get over and do some graves in the future 😀 take care, Alan
What a sad story Alan and such a young age to take his own life he must have been very low in himself and what would he become today in his music career if this tragedy had not have happened well done Alan for a very respectable video
Hello Karl I think his whole life was quite depressing so it's not surprising what I really needed was some psychiatric help possibly. All the best, Alan
This is such a sad story Alan. I did not realise the circumstances of Ians death. How sad. Richie Edwards from the Manics was due to fly out to the States to do some promotional work. He left his Hotel in London and has not been seen since. I hope he is shacked up in an old cottage somewhere in Wales. The pressures these young men and women were and still are putting themselves under must seem relentless. Sad, sad story.
Thank you, MD especially if you're the wrong kind of character. It's a shame. Thank you friend
Nice to see you back Alan. Great video again
Hello Dave, nice to see you mate
Hi Alan good to see you again, very sad story, Joy Division were a great band.
Hello John, I'll take your word on that because this was the one I didn't know anything about until I researched and I didn't get the music but a lot of people do like it. Thank you for telling me Alan
Hello John, I'll take your word on that because this was the one I didn't know anything about until I researched and I didn't get the music but a lot of people do like it. Thank you for telling me Alan
Hi Alan, another great but sad video, good to see you back 👍
Hello Martin, thank you for the encouragement. Alan
Hiya Alan, i remember watching ian curtis perform in my youth and instatly thought this guy was a troubled soul very sad ,great tribute from you and brilliant expression of words about life itself,AMAZING ALAN
Nigel thank you for your recollections you knew about Ian much before me I only started to research him a few weeks ago. And I have a problem I produce the film sometimes and I get intrigued. He had such a dark mentality and I can't see why. And this music is so well thought of by some people that I think I should do a backup video when I know more :-) thank you much appreciated look after yourself, Alan
I am so glad you did a video on this. Ian was a great songwriter. Without him there would be no New Order. Thanks for sharing I enjoy your content. A very happy subscriber from Canada.
Hi I'm very pleased that you enjoy the video being a fan. Best regards Alan
Just came across your video’s I love them! Ian Curtis very sad story I remember when he died and the Brilliant ‘Love will tear us apart’
I’m catching up with all your videos you’re a lovely sensible down to earth man and love the little gems of advice you give.
You’ll see me in the comments again! Thank you for all the research and professionalism it’s appreciated in this often unprofessional world! X
Hi Alan what a tragic end to a very talented musician. Like you said all the money and fame doesn’t mean it makes you happy especially if you’ve got troubles and are not mentally well. Great video and insight of this young man. Keep up the good work and can’t wait to see the next one 👏👏👏👍
Hi Psy I think I've lost your address to send ing the money 💰 Thank you ever so much my friend truly, it's always great to see you. Alan
Thanks Alan. A nice biopic of Ian Curtis. Very sad 😢
That's pretty kind of you Alan and I just love your name 😎
How sad .❤
Great video Alan welcome back!
Hank I've never really gone anywhere. I just disappear into the hamster wheel of life but I'm retiring so I have more time. Thank you for the encouragement! Great to see you as well. Alan
Joy Division, may have been short lived, but the influence that they exerted was 'Gargantuan'!! And that was more than in part, as a result of the 'enigmatic genius' of Ian Curtis!! I
You prove the point Adrian, I'm afraid I'm an ignoramus regarding their music but they've not have been amazing cuz other people echo your statements. Thank you, Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep You are 'far' from being an ignoramus Alan! And your 'high calibre' content emphasises that! It's an electric range that you provide and so far it has 'hit the target' with your subscribers, and long may that continue for you Alan! Thankyou & Huge respect for you!!
Got to see Joy Division in concert. Ian wasn’t the best live singer but he certainly had stage presence. The concert is in my top 10 favourite concerts I’ve been to.
That's it Mollys I'm missing something because when I watched the music it just looked terrible. But I can say that sometimes it's in a quiet taste. Or maybe I'm just too old now but I'm Very happy that you enjoyed the concert. All the best, Alan
So very sad 😢
Looking forward to watching this video as always
Very sad he passed so young
Absolutely Diane it's unbelievably dark I think he's our personality unfortunately seems to be in that direction his parents try to stop him from watching depressing things so very very sad agree thank you Alan
Great Video Alan
Thanks! Jon
Glad you are back,Alan.Ian Curtis story reminds me of Pete Ham of Badfinger.Both Gentlemen suffered from depression and sadly died the same way.Take Care,Sir.
Hello Robert, I didn't know any of that. Thank you. Very interesting indeed. All the best my friend. Alan
Hi Alan. Thanks for your video. I don't know much about Joy Division I must admit but what a truly sad story. It is so easy for us humans to get overwhelmed with things in life and your advise is very good. To think that some people make that awful decision as they see it as the only way out is horrendous and so very very sad. I think that things change and if you are not in a good place at the moment that moment will change at some point. Thanks again Alan.
That's it Louise. Well said. I think that is the most important thing that in a certain moment things can look terrible I even do it myself sometimes now but then I try and catch myself and think just wait. I think A lot of humanity just tend to all look at the worst scenario when things go wrong. Thank you very much. Best regards to you, Alan
Thank you Alan, another great vlog, 👍
very kind of you John
Superb insight thankyou.....❤
Big thank you love your name !!
Hi Alan Good to see you back ....I was never a fan of Joy Division ...But his story is so sad ,,RIP Ian 💔
Hello Debbie, you and me both? I'm afraid I'm not a fan either. It's too depressing a bit like the story really 😞
So well said Alan: time always teaches us lessons.
Your video and a beautiful day in Macclesfield ease the pain to all of us remembering how young Ian was when he passed away. I was lucky enough to have the "Unknown Pleasures" album (although, in those days before Internet, I didn't hear about his untimely death for sometime after.) Their sound and THAT artistic album cover left a deep impression... only years later to discover the "artwork" was based on the radio frequences emmited by a Pulsar star....
1980 was, for me, so special with such diverse "pop" music! That summer I camped at Knebworth -among 180,000 others - and watched... The Beach Boys.. Elkie Brookes.. The Blues Band.. Mike Oldfield.. Santana.. and, top Newcastle folk rock group, Lindisfarne!!
I'm sure yourself Alan - and your followers - have wonderful memories of music back then, whether it be Joy Division or any other group...
... and, crikey, these last 45 years have passed so quickly!
Thanks again for your enlightening and memory jogging work Alan.
Hello Leo I never realised the cover was the frequency of a Pulstar how unusual. I've got a feeling that if I did listen to the music I'd probably start to get it but initially I didn't like it and I only knew that hit single. Fantastic that you did all the camping and experiencing. Well done! It's something I've never ventured into when I was younger those times. Will it be magical for you?. Fantastic to meet you. Take care my friend. Alan
I always like your analysis of life, writing things down etc. What a shame for his daughter and his wife having to find him like that after everything.
Hi Donnnna absolutely I've seen the picture of his daughter nowadays as a young woman it must be terrible to be that low that you leave the people you love. I did have a good real-life friendly that hung himself it's a very unusual story.
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep Alaaaaaarne, it is a terrible tragedy that maybe given a few more years/more experience under his belt that maybe Ian might have been more prepared for the life he was leading - it was a lot on his plate for his age, even though I know people married and had children much younger back in the day. Sometimes (I think personally) you're either a coper or maybe not so much. I'm sorry about your friend.. I tell you what, it would be great I think to meet up one day and have a blooming good old natter about life the universe and everything! 🌍
@@DonnaGB333 Nobody knows Donnnnna but I believe I was the best friend of a businessman who hung himself age 42 he had lots of issues and I knew he was dark in his thinking they didn't even tell me or anyone when he did it so some people never escaped even when they're older. Thank goodness we're not in the same place take care, Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep It's so sad to think people have underlying issues that feel so deep that this is the only way out of them or cannot escape them/put them on the back burner for whatever reason. They feel so huge that there is only one way to get away from them because the issue/s cloud their thinking and judgement completely.
Thank you Alan great watching as always
Anthony, it's great to see you again it's been a while I've been a naughty boy I disappeared but I'll try to keep visible :-)
He had beautiful eyes. He was lucky to survive his first attempt. Phenobarbitone is very dangerous in overdose.
Great singer and band...such a sad ending to a sad soul...if I'm not mistaken the rest of the band went on to form New Order
Yep New Order came from Joy Division.
Hi Nay Absolutely the three main members quite quickly found the group you've said wouldn't know what would have happened if he lived.
Hello Alan, as always a great VLOG, like you I knew little about him so your story was informative and sad. Having been to several suicides in my past occupation it’s always extremely difficult to accept and appreciate the mind set that makes a fellow human being do such a thing. What could have been done to change events etc? A year older than me, what a sad end with all that talent and potential and such a burden for his child to carry in their life.
Hi CFP makes me think you have something to do with the the police. I agree you just can't imagine being so low when people are so young but it happens. A business friend of mine 20 years ago took his own life and I was one of his closest friends. He had a dark mentality but nobody not even his family knew how bad he didn't tell anybody when he hung himself. I think we're the same year as well 😎 all the best. See you again soon I hope. Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep Hi Alan , yes you are correct and I was born in 57. 👍
Great video of a legend and talking of legends where have you been? Glad you're back Alan looking and sounding well. Yogi.
I've missed my favorite bear hello Yogi I haven't been anywhere I've just been busy too long boring story but I'll try to keep visible I've got a few films in the bag and I'm doing a new channel also the summer take care my friend Alan great to see you !
A wonder tribute to Ian , thank you
Kind of you Mega best my friend
Brilliant video buddy
And you Ray take care friend
Hi Alan 😊 I don't know much about him either, but of course, I know the song Love Will Tear Us Apart. It really is dificult to comprehend someone's state of mind to get so bad they feel there is no other option. So very sad and the anniversary of his passing is coming soon. I hope wherever he is now, he is at peace. Thank you for the video 😊
Hi Karin I did personally know as a friend businessman who was a friend who committed suicide in the same way but there's something very different about this story because from a very young age, he seemed to be drawn to the subject of death and I can't quite put my finger on it but there's something very strange about his personality and mind. As per usual I'm intrigued and looking into more active filming! Thank you Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep Yikes, it's something we probably will never know. Everyone's brain is wired differently and in some cases, this is what happens. My younger cousin did it years ago and nobody ever knew the reason, he did it with the car exhaust. Well, whereever they all are, we can only hope they are now at peace
A other brilliant video Alan it's so true what you were saying take care .
Hello John and the best trick is to know and to act on the knowledge that's the tricky bit , 😉 Thank you my friend
Thank you from a Macc girl.
Hello Alan what a sad person never heard of Ian Curtis .
Marion you and me both I'd heard of the group and knew the hit single but I never listened to their music and I've got to be honest it's not my style I think the drummer seems good but some people think they were excellent so horses for courses.
Hi Alan where have you been thought you’d dissapeared good to see you great video very sad lovly looking guy beautiful memorial place I’ve missed ya take care 😊❤️
Not not as much as I've missed you crystal dance but honestly sweet to see you thanks😊
That was really good that!
David thanks mate
Hi Alan great video, cant wat for Mary Millingtons
Hi Kay That's a very good idea thank you for the tip I know of Mary and their profession that beyond that not a great deal but I put that on my list and do a bit of research thank you :-)
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep there's a documentary on her shown most weekends after 22.00 on freeview channel 83
Very sad story, shes buried in North Holmwood Church, Nr Dorking Surrey
Huricane Smith pop star from the 60s who was also the beatles engineer is buried in the next door church Newdigate als
Thanks Alan, one of my absolute favourite bands ever. I gather he really didn’t take care of his epilepsy very well at all and my feeling is he just got married too young.
Hi ilanarhian I think you probably got that right? The only thing I don't agree with I don't like the music. But then again I haven't listened to it much. I think I'm probably missing something. Thanks for the great comment. Alan
I agree. The lad was just too young to take on marriage responsibilities. Tragic xx
Unfortunately if you listen to his music he meant every word of it. He wasn't pretending he meant every word and unfortunately there was no help. 😢
I would think so. People do sing about their real life quite often. Thank you for that. You know their music much better than me. Regards, Alan
I have epilepsy that is well controlled, maybe in his day there wasn’t the same medicine we have for epilepsy.
Hi alan great content hope your well mate
And you Andy take care mate
Ian Curtis is alive and eternal , Hello Ian Curtis and co and all other cosmic eternal peoples, the recent midsummers eve/day Stonehenge free festival gathering 2024, was a cosmicly amazing successful event , I was there and pleased to see all the free natural eternal peoples of the infinite wild natural eternal cosmos enjoying themselves, there WILL DEFINATELY soon be the return of the Stonehenge free festivals FOR ETERNITY , REGULARLY, and ALL other free festivals also FOR ETERNITY , the IMPORTANT thing is, the more the natural wilderness returns back to the northern side/edge of Stonehenge (where the small "barrow hills" and traditional pyramid stage/ main festival site area is), i.e. the tarmac, roads, fences, artificial things e.t.c. being taken up, and the natural mud, turf and other plants growing back,, the sooner the better, and the Stonehenge free festivals Will DEFINATELY return even MORE sooner
it is PRIMARILY NECESSARY for the northern plains tundra/fields ( i.e. where the main free festival, pyramid stage , small" barrow hills" usually is) to become completely natural wilderness again , there will still be a route to the south of Stonehenge for traffic travelling east to west/ west to east, and yet that route will eventually have the tarmac removed e.t.c. also , and then just become a flat dry smooth natural mud route that vehicles can STILL use 100% safely o.k. at the same speeds as before, (that southern only (east to west/west to east) road re-naturalisation (eventually back to a vehicle safe flat dry mud road) is in the more distant future, but to the sides and northern edges all around Stonehenge ,re-naturalisation back to completely natural tundra is VERY DEFINATELY IMMINENT and IMPORTANTLY it is better NOT to actually scorch/burn the actual turf/grass soils e.t,c. in any way , we are elf minimalist-tech eco-friendly(primarily) peoples, Stonehenge is here for ETERNITY , and so are we ALL, and so is all our eco friendly cosmic eternal music equipment e.t.c. any planes, helicopters, U.F.O. , other craft e.t.c. e.t.c. in the sky and space is ONLY Soviet Union Russian, so rest assured EVERYTHING is o.k. and 100% ECOFRIENDLY, see you soon and a DEFINIATE eco friendly free festival ETERNITY ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEED
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So sad 😢
I've never heard of this guy until now.Don't know the music at all. A very interesting vlog which has left me with a very uncomfortable feeling and a lot to think about.
Hello Jacqueline, it's the same as me. I didn't know of them either but I guess there's a lesson to be learnt from what happened to him. Regards, Alan
01:50 Very good, keep it up
Interesting about the band name origins. I was never into these but so sad to hear he was so young when he died. Atb x
Hello freebird, I hope you're doing okay. Thank you for the comment. You're a star! Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep I'm good thanku. Getting Kiki derusted atm down in Loughborough. Hope your doing ok? Not seen any vids in ages. Tc x
Hi Alan long time no see 🙈 👋
And I could say the same about you Jean wherever have you been :-) take care
Sorry Alan but I was the one who put the Sheffield United sticker on the corner of his pictur.e.
Really? I should have given you an name credit in the video. Thank you my friend
@@MotorHomeBeepBeep😂 Yes I was up there about 6 weeks ago.
I think Ian liked His football a Man City fan.
Ever thought of doing Mark E Smith's grave ?
Hi Alan trust you are well I was watching a youtube video of This is your life it was about Kathy Staff and Crossroads Alan it was good presentation Kathy husband John was there and their daughters and some of the cast of Summerwine
Hi Hance I hope you're feeling well. She was a great actress. I actually saw her in the canteen at a television studio where they were doing crossroads comeback program about 20 years ago. It didn't last very long 😄 take care, Alan
I suppose if his wife had been there that night he would not have committed
Suicide, but who knows he may have done it on another day. Either way it is a big tragedy. Thanks for the interesting video Alan.
Hello Hugh I think she would have saved him but he needed maybe more than that like you said. Thank you
GUILT 😢😢
Joy Division reminds me of Jeremy Vine! And I can't stand him! I didn't like the band either.
Don't mince your words, I have to admit I didn't know their music either and it's not for me but Jeremy Vine okay he earns too much but I can stand him.
Oh Alan how sad - he would have been my age bless him . Like you didnt really know his music, more a Queen fan but like a lot of talented people he was a tortured soul- great to have you back my friend missed your wisdom! Take care, and dont be a stranger! X
Hello, Carol yes I am a Queen fan also.... quick funny story once met a man who was in the army about 25 years ago and he had a picture of Freddie Mercury in his house and he was proud he looked similar and I pointed out the reason for the name of the group and he was shocked it made me laugh at the time :-) take care of yourself and thank you, Alan
@@MotorHomeBeepBeeplove it!!