PROJECT CARS 2 - HONEST REVIEW - GOOD / BAD / SIMCADE ?

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  • Here it is our Honest Review of Project Cars 2 !
    No fancy editing or music in this video, just 30 minutes of a crazy Sim-Racing British guy trying to cover all the questions and the most pertinent aspects of PC2 that I keep getting asked about in all our live stream and preview videos !
    Simply put Project cars 2 is a "land mark" simulator with that in mind though it in no way "DESTROYS" other simulators on the market more its just another epic driving simulation to add to the collection of simulators !
    The best things about project cars 2 is how versatile it is along with its usability (especially when you consider how complex it is)
    , how well it works in VR and the shear quantity of content.
    The worse thing about Project Cars 2 is that its AI is really erratic and the "single player campaign" is rather underwhelming. With the game also suffering from the same problems other simulators do in that sometimes you have to dig to really find those golden nuggets.
    I'd say If you like GPL , Assetto Corsa, iRacing , Race Room Racing Experience , AMS, Rfactor 2, Richard Burns Rally , Dirt Rally ,Live for speed , Mario kart 8. There is a very high probability that at least something in Project Cars 2 will give you a small smile. A smile which you will then hide so that you can complain on forums about tire models again.
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  • @GamerMuscleVideos
    @GamerMuscleVideos  Před 6 lety +17

    Thanks for watching !
    *GETTING A WHEEL FOR PROJECT CARS 2 OR JUST BUYING GADGETS ON AMAZON ?*
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    Makes no difference to you but a huge difference to me and this channel :)
    Also thanks to SMS for reaching out to us and giving us press access to project cars 2 , I have had a ton of fun playing through it and making video content with the game, its going to be really exciting to see PC2 develop after launch and also see how many new drivers it brings to sim-racing !

    • @misterdog7
      @misterdog7 Před 6 lety +2

      Great review, couldn't agree more after having clocked in 196 hours myself ;)

    • @toddmcdonough
      @toddmcdonough Před 6 lety +1

      No, thank you GamerMuscle. Been loving the live streams as well. Lots of good banter, driving and shrubbery. Cheers from California!

    • @bassax7045
      @bassax7045 Před 6 lety

      spontanious interview with Ian Bell on you tube streamers channel czcams.com/video/uS2OKUrbh-w/video.html starts at 2:03:20 - Ian Bell joins for interview.
      Ian loves Assetto Corsa : ) !!!!

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  Před 6 lety

      California !!!! you are not welcome here with your sun shine beaches and attractive women.
      Glad you enjoy it all + thanks for repeatedly coming to the streams.

    • @Soulstoner
      @Soulstoner Před 6 lety +1

      Got a Canadian Amazon link?

  • @Windchoir
    @Windchoir Před 6 lety +4

    Thanks for the review, GamerMuscle! It's that rare occasion when you get everything you want to know in just one video. When I'm able to build a new PC and buy both AC and PC2 I'll not forget to raise a cup of tea for your health.

  • @TMERUNNR
    @TMERUNNR Před 6 lety +8

    Yeep, You're my Sim Racing Hero, I kmow, I know, I have low standards, but this channel "Tickles My Pickle"! lol... Nice review and fantastic Comedic choice of vocabulary! You earned a warm plate of Bangers and Mash. well done....

  • @adrianstealth340
    @adrianstealth340 Před 6 lety +1

    thanks for the best review yet -straight to the point and the answers everyone wants, I hope slightly mad studio improves the simulator experience in the dry conditions as you mentioned, going to hold off buying awaiting the possible updates and user feedback etc

  • @scarryharry1
    @scarryharry1 Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you Gamermuscle. Very happy with this vid! and very honest!! Top review!!

  • @williampowell9013
    @williampowell9013 Před 6 lety +8

    At the end of the day, it passes its aim of a simulator, it looks good, it has great VR support and most importantly after watching the ice driving on GM live stream yesterday, it looks like a lot of fun!

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  Před 6 lety

      Exactly I think a person would have to be really miserable to not be able to find anything fun about PC2.

  • @NigraXXL
    @NigraXXL Před 6 lety +112

    Does anyone know of any youtuber that actually has driven real cars too? I watch GM and JB but none of them actually have a IRL point of reference. Many simracers have their opinions about the FFB and stuff in all of these games but only have the games themselves as reference points, while the developers usually work along real life drivers, it just seems weird to me that they'd release something that isn't approved by the real world drivers they work with.

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  Před 6 lety +15

      Real world drivers argue about things as much as sim racers , if its any consolation my views of how sim cars should handle is more on the forgiving side in line with the general philosophy of prity much any real world driver I have spoken with and for the most part in line with how Kunos and SMS believe cars should handle.

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  Před 6 lety +13

      Oh at some point I'll get to a real track and do a comparison video with real cars, but its going to cost at least £1000 to do so it wont be for a while lol.

    • @NigraXXL
      @NigraXXL Před 6 lety +19

      Make a donation goal for the £1000 so you can make it to the tracks. Looking forward to that.

    • @rsr427
      @rsr427 Před 6 lety +18

      I've only raced low power open wheelers, but the split between sim and real is so wide that its almost impossible to compare them (to me). Graphics are tremendously important in that if the visuals don't make you believe you are there, there is no simulating anything. In a real race car, there are so many other points of contact with the car in motion that you get so much more feeling than a steering wheel can convey. Sim devs have a harder job in trying to translate everything through the wheel. If, through FFB, I can drive the car faster because of what I feel in the wheel, then its good FFB. In an aside, when I race my own car, I would register it as "Sponsored" by PCars fake companies. So I would be racing for the Montgolfier Watches/Zipanol team... :)

    • @SureGamer1
      @SureGamer1 Před 6 lety +14

      Well simply because they release so many cars. They might not get the complete set of data and telemetry for all the cars. Which is why a game like iRacing might not have certain cars that you'd expect them to have or if it's in the works it takes a really really long time. I don't know what happens behind closed doors but with the volume of cars that some of these games push out all of them can't exactly be exactly the same to the irl version. I'm just speculating though.

  • @Cannedraviolicanmakegoodfarts

    10:02 “They don’t ram into you most of the times”, AI proceeds to ram into him.

  • @Karto86
    @Karto86 Před 6 lety +12

    Seriously, this is really informative.

  • @vRenegade.
    @vRenegade. Před 6 lety +62

    tl;dw, it's a big step forward since PC1. When dialed in right, it can be as good as other sims but will require a lot of tweaking in in order to get there. Great graphics and decent sounds. Great VR support, potentially great multiplayer (only P2P though). Great FFB and decent AI when tweaked to your needs. It will only get better with updates :)
    Great video as always James, we'll have to play some multiplayer soon :D

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  Před 6 lety +6

      MILES better than PC1

    • @viktorianas
      @viktorianas Před 6 lety

      www.virtualr.net/take-peek-project-cars-2-dedicated-server-settings

    • @vRenegade.
      @vRenegade. Před 6 lety +2

      I was just going on what was brushed on during the video. Maybe there will be dedicated servers on the PC, the article you linked is over 6 months old now, hopefully it's still a thing and not something that has been abandoned :/

    • @Weapon-lt1nj
      @Weapon-lt1nj Před 6 lety

      They did such a nice job dividing all the cars into better groups. I wish they made some multiplayer hoppers where you could just jump in by car group. Instead If hopping into a lobby with a host that decided to get up and make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for 30 minutes.

  • @revdogma
    @revdogma Před 6 lety

    Solid, in-depth review. Thanks! (They are hard to come by these days imo)

  • @antoniojunior5734
    @antoniojunior5734 Před 6 lety

    Guys is the VR camera inside the cockpit "locked" to the cars? I mean if I lean foward to try to look up close the dashboard the car just moves together with my head, same thing to the sides. In AC if I stand up I can see my car from the outside and I can move my head freely inside the cars. Here I just can't find any setting to fix this please clarify.

  • @Glimiril
    @Glimiril Před 6 lety +2

    I pre-ordered yesterday, I don't normally pre-order but 17% off and as I have PC1 (disappointed overall with that), I was watching your vids and what sealed it was the ease of multiplayer set-up and the fun you both at times were having, but also the differences in what you liked. I considered myself in the equation and any sim I have some cars/tracks I have to work at then enjoy, some I enjoy straight away.
    There is enough quality in what I've seen, from you and others to buy in my opinion, I welcome a more authentic experience and hope manufacturers who's cars are being represented , demand better quality detail in any future software, not to be Elitist but say hey, motor sport is bloody good fun, don't need nitro packs, green tyre smoke etc, just good quality.
    Thank you GM I needed you being natural with the game , laughing and enjoying aspects (especially weather) to push me over the previous uneasy feeling SMS and PC1 left with me.

  • @xandermcn500
    @xandermcn500 Před 6 lety +1

    Fantastic vid mate .

  • @octanejimmy
    @octanejimmy Před 6 lety +24

    iracing..... Racers version of cocaine... Its great, lots of rush at first, you need more and throw more money at it, feels better, more money, at the end you are not happy strung out and broke....
    Thanks for the honest review I will give this a shot.

  • @Pedster9
    @Pedster9 Před 6 lety

    Fantastic honest, open, and positive review. Bought this on PS4 on day of release. Only played a few hours but really enjoying it. Wish there was a PSVR option for the console. Good vid glad I'm a subscriber 😃

  • @George19712
    @George19712 Před 6 lety +1

    Great video. I definitely relate to your trying to find a consistent AI percent to race against in Project Cars 1. Still, the good out weighs the bad. I enjoy Project Cars very much.

  • @cacarey01
    @cacarey01 Před 6 lety

    Question about VR: in PC1 if you turn around to look at the back seat or rear wheels there was usually an untextured mess. The wheels weren't even round etc. Do things look better when peeking behind the normal field of view in PC2?
    Also do the mirrors work properly in VR now or are they still a static picture in picture?

  • @eclap78
    @eclap78 Před 6 lety

    Great review mate, thanks for this! Subscribed. Watched you and Jimmy messing around in PC2 last night, was fun to watch :)
    Quick question, which wheel do you use?

  • @andrewsmith8707
    @andrewsmith8707 Před 6 lety +10

    You are a funny man Mr muscle. Brilliant review. Thank you. Right I'm off to the kitchen to put my head in my rusty microwave.

  • @EzyoMusic
    @EzyoMusic Před 6 lety

    I'm a PC user, love road cars and slower race cars up to about GT3. I have a decent gamepad and could dig out an old Thrustmaster wheel if needed. I enjoy something between arcade and sim. What do people recommend?

  • @MrBreakthompson
    @MrBreakthompson Před 6 lety +17

    Awesome review, now i want to continue to make poor life choices ;-)

  • @Heldermaior
    @Heldermaior Před 5 lety +5

    Recently came back to pcars2 because I was getting frustrated by the racing in A.C. and I must say that with the latest ffb tweaks (testing 2 atm) the game is really good. Highly recommend people pick it up. I got it with all DLC for 20 pounds which is really a lot of content and racing for the price.

    • @andyantonioap
      @andyantonioap Před 4 lety +1

      I got it for free on Xbox one X thru xbox live gold and the handling is still too loose.

  •  Před 6 lety +1

    Great review GM, thank you!

  • @Kert137
    @Kert137 Před 6 lety +1

    Is there an option to drive in realisitc weather? Let's say it's raining at the Nürburgring it also rains if the game if you are set that up?

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  Před 6 lety +2

      You can match real world weather and real world time I think it grabs it from internet weather stations :)

    • @Kert137
      @Kert137 Před 6 lety

      That's great ! Thanks for the answer :)

  • @Chevette924
    @Chevette924 Před 6 lety

    Damn, crazy good save at 29:50 man!

  • @Ariffirmansmart008
    @Ariffirmansmart008 Před 6 lety

    Hello. I am in need of immediate help. I have a shifting problem where even the start of the race I cannot shift to gear 1. Im using a logitech f310. The gameplay is great but this manual problem is what annoys me and makes the game unplayable. Can anyone please help? There is no buttons stacked with the gear up button.

  • @WR3ND
    @WR3ND Před 6 lety

    Love the race setup features and possibilities here a lot. Sounds like this with more of the physics/handling/responsiveness of Assetto Corsa would be perfect for me. Any tips for getting the most out of Project Cars 2 in that regard?

  • @infn8loopmusic
    @infn8loopmusic Před 4 lety

    I really agree with everything being said here. my experience with those cars that don't feel quite right have turned into opportunities to learn how to tune the cars properly. I wasn't really particularly good with tuning cars in sims prior to PC2 but it's forced me to practice tuning and I've found that adjusting the tuning is very meaningful to the cars in PC2 and a small adjustment can bring a considerable change of how the car feels and reacts, so maybe give that a shot for some of those cars if you haven't yet. Even if you just start with removing extra fuel can be a big difference. But being able to adjust the camber/toe angles ride height and suspension firmness make huge differences if you need the car to tighten or loosen up. Even the transmission tuning is quite easy to do in PC2 so I ended up getting used to it fairly quickly and can squeeze out more acceleration or top speed if needed.

  • @SneakersDK
    @SneakersDK Před 6 lety

    I have rF2 and what i really like is the tires simulation like flat spots. And also the track history. Does Project Cars 2 have something similar to that? :)

  • @Seyding
    @Seyding Před 6 lety +2

    Hey! Can someone explain me the difference between the standard GT3 car and the 24h endurance versions(also GT3)? Is it just the livery?

    • @ajitkundu8033
      @ajitkundu8033 Před 6 lety +2

      Olly S
      The endurance cars has softer suspensions and larger fuel tank

    • @Seyding
      @Seyding Před 6 lety

      ajit kundu Thanks a lot m8! I really appreciate this.

    • @oh_danielsan9025
      @oh_danielsan9025 Před 6 lety

      + yellow lights

  • @TheSkyline35
    @TheSkyline35 Před 6 lety +41

    24:30 -> This issue about IA is super common in racing sim. For instance on RF2, 2 days ago I was doing Flat6 Cup races (amazing mod to use *_*) against IA, qualified 5th with a good 1.5s faster, then skipped the last 10min remaining...woaaa surprised I'm now 20th !

    • @Hugo-pj4bm
      @Hugo-pj4bm Před 6 lety

      TheSkyline35 what's IA?

    • @TheSkyline35
      @TheSkyline35 Před 6 lety +20

      Hugo Oops sorry wrote it in French lol, IA is AI in English (Intelligence Artificielle -> Artificial Intelligence)

    • @Hugo-pj4bm
      @Hugo-pj4bm Před 6 lety +14

      Oh ok, in german it's KI (künstliche Intelligenz) so it's not that hard to confuse for me :D

    • @toddmcdonough
      @toddmcdonough Před 6 lety +7

      I agree with you. Something to consider is the live track 3.0 feature. As the track rubbers in, it gets progressively faster. A good strategy is to time your best qualifying effort as close to the end of the session as possible.

    • @jamarcus_OG
      @jamarcus_OG Před 6 lety +1

      Yeah , the best example for me is F1 2016-2017 : when i'm in the top ten and then , in the last 2 minutes of qualify , the AI does super impressive laps giving me tons of shit and making me look like a slug ahahaha!

  • @Karto86
    @Karto86 Před 6 lety

    Excelent review, thank you.

  • @Tripokaridos22
    @Tripokaridos22 Před 6 lety

    A question ...do u use slip effects on the wheel ? yea ,no and why ?

  • @daviddanser8011
    @daviddanser8011 Před 6 lety

    Is the ai in career mode just random names again? Or do we have rivals in pc2 which go up classes with you etc?
    Or is it random names again with random results every new race?
    This kind of kills the purpose of career mode in my opinion

  • @whatthafuckisthis
    @whatthafuckisthis Před 6 lety

    By chance it have mouse steering? or i have to use mouse to joystic?

  • @Friend_Called_Five
    @Friend_Called_Five Před 6 lety

    You mention you did a video on VR settings in PCars2, which one is that, maybe I am being dumb but I can't see it.

  • @vladimirtomin8223
    @vladimirtomin8223 Před 6 lety +1

    I hope they will do full scale rally dlc someday (like game within game). Will buy this one regardless, for rallycross and karts.

  • @chimpyman92
    @chimpyman92 Před 6 lety +4

    Pcars 2 does also have dedicated servers. Tool is on steam

  • @pedroportfolio
    @pedroportfolio Před 6 lety

    can somebody tell me if you can disable driver arms in VR?

  • @Pezby69
    @Pezby69 Před 6 lety +5

    mature cheese and sausages.. im in :D

  • @RobSchlegel
    @RobSchlegel Před 6 lety +7

    Here lies GamerMuscle.
    Bushes, grass, tire skid sounds.

  • @theshoey7477
    @theshoey7477 Před 6 lety +3

    If you still have your T300, could you do a video on your FFB settings and general impressions with a wheel for mere mortals?

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  Před 6 lety

      I cannot right at the moment as its not easily to set up :( After Xmass I should have more space for filming and reviews so will have a few rigs setup alowing for me to test multiple things at the same time.

    • @currololo
      @currololo Před 6 lety

      Default Informative settings work fine for a T300 (my case), raw is also fine. No need to change anything, it simply feels great. Remember to wait until autocalibration is complete if you are using informative or inmersive for the first time (you should drive some time before FFB stabilizes).
      FFB is better than anything else.

  • @MadAlPlays
    @MadAlPlays Před 6 lety

    Couple of points..MP, there is a dedicated server available if you want to use it (ideal for leagues, etc, PC only)... normally you would be going P2P if you just throw up a room to play in. FFB, with immersive and informative, they are adaptive, so should give a better balance across more cars (RAW is up to you to set levels, so may be more prone to having some cars feeling weaker than others) - there is also the option for a completely custom setup (and I'm sure the usual suspects will create options for those)

  • @Milf0rd1
    @Milf0rd1 Před 6 lety

    Is this the final release review or the early press build?

  • @michaelpegasiou4531
    @michaelpegasiou4531 Před 6 lety +7

    I love this game and it’s a lot more fleshed out than any other racing game That I have tried,I think they have done a great job.

  • @jenggoh9869
    @jenggoh9869 Před 6 lety

    is it hard to control the car with ds4.?

  • @RKOzza
    @RKOzza Před 6 lety +15

    You and Jimmy Broadbent sound very alike! Gonna watch this now....

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  Před 6 lety +17

      No he is a dirty southern boy, where as I am from the midlands and have lived up in the north near the wall and wild lings.

    • @RKOzza
      @RKOzza Před 6 lety +1

      Yeah, nothing to do with accents. I dunno. Vocal tones maybe? You remind of each other anyway. Think I may buy this now on Steam, £37 is a fair enough. Iam a little worried about you saying the fidelity aint really there and its hard to be really accurate but... I want that multi class Le mans24! :D

    • @miy1925hassun
      @miy1925hassun Před 6 lety

      GamerMuscleVideos DA KING IN THE NORF!

    • @jacobnewsome9529
      @jacobnewsome9529 Před 6 lety

      GamerMuscleVideos pls no punterino

    • @joribremer5260
      @joribremer5260 Před 4 lety +1

      As Jimmy says if you want immersion PC2 is your thing

  • @MW_1535
    @MW_1535 Před 6 lety

    Thanks for the review and all your coverage on PC2!
    My biggest issue with AC is how much more of a pain it was to use in VR than Project Cars. With PC and PC2, VR just works and I never need to take off my Vive. It's been a long time since I've tried AC in VR, so I have no idea if that experience has improved or not. I'm somewhere in between casual and hardcore, so everything doesn't need to be perfect for me. That being said, I do prefer PC2 over the original; everything just feels better. I can't wait to jump back in after release.

  • @Turbodatsun
    @Turbodatsun Před 6 lety

    I don't know if any one else is having this problem but when i started career mode the cars were undrivable, spinning out constantly. The reason was the tyres were set to (automatic by weather) which i thought would mean it would automatically use slicks when the track is dry and wets when it starts raining. That does not seem to be the case as it was running all terrain tyres in the dry, giving the car no grip, so now i manually select what tyres to use

  • @dangelobrickwallbrual7794

    I was holding off for a very long time in buying this game. Do people still play online and is it worth it with the sale? I play GT sport,assetto corsa on PC for VR with the rift and RF2 at times. Hopefully hear for some input

    • @SkankHunt007
      @SkankHunt007 Před 5 lety

      D'angelo Brickwall Brual; I just bought it myself coming from F1 and GT sport. It definitely feels like a simulator. Nice and difficult, makes you think. Plenty of traffic online as well! Good fun.

  • @janecena8147
    @janecena8147 Před 6 lety

    I have Project Cars 2 for my xbox one, use a Logitech G920 and I have major problems. My wheel still goes 900° when using a Formula A car for example. Also with drifting, my car snaps back very easy what makes me spin out. When I'm driving straight, my wheels is shocking in a unnatural way. I don't see those problems on youtube though. Can anyone help me please?

  • @csmith9684
    @csmith9684 Před 6 lety +1

    That qual bug is in pc1. I cant belive its still there in pc2. I found a fix if u fast fwd time to 60 sec remaining take the car out on track till time is 0. Then they dont super speed at the end.

  • @AviViljoen
    @AviViljoen Před 6 lety

    You nailed it Mr Muscle!

  • @Daz555Daz
    @Daz555Daz Před 6 lety +1

    Would be great to hear what ideas the devs or publishers have for future updates to get players to host more than a constant stream of GT3 races.

  • @MikeSmith-yy1lv
    @MikeSmith-yy1lv Před 6 lety

    Great review. The real question in my mind is whether they will continue to improve and update the game. Reiza and Kunos....no problem, i believe they have done a great job improving their sims. I'm not sure i have 100% confidence in SMS.

  • @razorfett147
    @razorfett147 Před 6 lety

    Great review. As someone who has been enjoying FM7, but is disappointed with the limited custom race setup options for mp....this looks like it will fill the void nicely. FORZA for my car customizing and single player stuff, and PC2 for mp. Good stuff

  • @riman8493
    @riman8493 Před 6 lety

    Nice review, GM - I think it's quite fair. The AI has taken huge steps forward compared to PC1, and you can actually enjoy racing it, but it can be somewhat inadequate on the lower grip cars.
    I find it interesting that you find the low grip cars more convincing than the high performance race cars. I am looking forward to hearing which cars get the big old plus and which get the thumb down from you in your later video. I expect your gripe is with the prototypes, FA, that sort of stuff? I don't expect you have a bone to pick with the GT3/GTE class and anything below or at that level?
    As for sounds, I'm wondering which cars you feel sound "atrocious". I think it's a bit harsh to call anything atrocious in most circumstances, but yeah... would be nice to hear which specifically don't come across convincingly in the sound department as well.
    The skip-to-end bug is something that's inherent to the engine, which is derived from ISI. It's a bug that's been there for over a decade across a multitude of games. Not sure why they even give you the option to skip to end, when it is clearly broken. Imo they should just take that option away. What I have found you _can_ do to circumvent this problem, is to just speed up time progression as you're sat there, waiting for things to end. Scale it from Real time to something much more aggressive and the AI will actually still keep churning laps as it would, just on hyper speed, producing realistic and predictable results instead of the alien times that come with skipping.
    You mentioned misshifts in certain cars. Might these be older H-gated cars? These have different tolerances for how tight you must be with your shifting. If these are the ones bothering you, try holding down the clutch pedal a bit longer while you shift, and if shifting down, make sure to rev-match properly. As for car revs not matching expectations on down shifts, please let me know which ones bother you and I can try and check up on it with the devs on WMD =)

  • @Ron5ter
    @Ron5ter Před 6 lety

    Remember the wheel setting problems in Project CARS 1? Well... I have the game and the Thrustmaster TX and the wheel setting isues are still there, can't believe it why they can't make this right, how hard can it be?

  • @jeremychambers7861
    @jeremychambers7861 Před 6 lety

    I have a gtx 750ti and I run PCars 1 just fine. Would I be OK with PC2?

  • @dannysnyder2313
    @dannysnyder2313 Před 5 lety

    How come you have all them Skyscrapers in the background and i dont?

  • @MrEnagee
    @MrEnagee Před 6 lety

    Whats your PC spec. Any recommended VR settings?

  • @adamrandell7946
    @adamrandell7946 Před 6 lety +2

    Nice review man, Same as you I was hoping there was more of a campaign as its the only thing that stopped me returning games like AC that and the odd physics on occasion. I downloaded the Forza 7 demo and in all honesty it surprised me, Its no AC or PC2 but still it surprised me. It took a bit of stuffing around with the wheel settings but once I had it sorted it was quite good, the Porsche handled well but traction control kind of feels like more of a crash saver for gamepad users. Turn TC off set it to sim and it's close to a sim experience, nothing ground breaking but a hell of a lot better than Forza 6.

    • @adamrandell7946
      @adamrandell7946 Před 6 lety

      It did take me ages to sort out, If you add a custom wheel it has a whole lot of functions that aren't in the pre-set load outs. I did have to turn up the under/oversteer FFB pretty much all the way, I didn't have any problems with the self centring the only time it didn't was when the car wasn't moving which is normal of coarse.
      Its a bummer it's not working right for you, Its one of those games that has proper career progression which a lot of games at the moment seem to be missing or just "tacked" on, Try adding a custom wheel and have another go it's worth it if you can get it.
      PC2 is good I'm enjoying it so far, I can see how in the long run I'm going to have the same issue as AC but its fun while it lasts. I may even try getting into online racing, It's not usually my thing but I guess I should start somewhere and get my money's worth lol.
      Have a good day buddy.

    • @Leynad778
      @Leynad778 Před 6 lety

      Read the review on PRC and this time i have to agree with Austin.

  • @generalpopcorn6427
    @generalpopcorn6427 Před 5 lety +2

    As a casual gamer using a gamepad on PC, I am satisfied with Project Cars and glad that I purchased the full season pass.
    The game is a challenge, especially on a gamepad, but challenge is what makes it fun.

  • @willdriverc
    @willdriverc Před 6 lety

    This is the sort of review I have been looking for. It sounds like PCars2 is a step up from it's predecessor improving on some of the complaints that had been received. I might pick this up now. I wasn't happy with PCars1 dye to all the FFB options. Took forever to get it to feel right. I also game on console and it had a game breaking bug. Good to know this might be worth getting. Racing in Knockhill.
    Shame console MP will be quite quiet.

  • @AbideinChristFully
    @AbideinChristFully Před 6 lety +3

    Do people consider sims accurate the more the car slides of the track in turns? example: iracing
    I think real cars have more grip than that.

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  Před 6 lety

      I don't think so

    • @darrenporter1850
      @darrenporter1850 Před 5 lety

      I agree. F1 and the Super high end cars have so much torque they can spin easily at low speeds before aero kicks in. But the fast 'normal' cars the back ends won't slide out at low speeds like in PC2. Theres some corners I cannot get around even at 60mph, in certain cars. That is unrealistic. If this was true Trackdays would see hundreds of people crashing each year.. which does not happen.

  • @wboeren1
    @wboeren1 Před 6 lety

    After some fiddeling about i got the joypad settings ok. Out of the box they don't work for me. Thankfully you can adjust most things to your liking.

  • @traind
    @traind Před 6 lety

    Ok Gamermuscle, what tea are you drinking? You've gone and become the best racing sim reviewer. I have not played this yet so I am not sure if I agree or not about pcars 2 but the detail and nuance in your review is hard to argue with. Bravo!

  • @TheEwanie
    @TheEwanie Před 6 lety +12

    Hey GM, I think you got something wrong there!
    Dedicated Servers absolutely exist in PCars 2, as they did in Pcars 1! Both dedicated and p2p servers are available with dedicated servers having a more fleshed out menu design, I assume you just didn't really have access to that yet.

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  Před 6 lety +1

      Oh , bugger didn't know that thanks for telling me I'll make sure to mention it in future videos once I know more about it :)

    • @TheEwanie
      @TheEwanie Před 6 lety

      There is already information about it, have a look here www.teamvvv.com/en/news/comments/Project-CARS-2s-dedicated-server-options-revealed . That all is assuming they didn't cut out that feature in the past 5 months but I highly doubt so as I saw the little dedicated server / private lobby indication marker in one of your multiplayer streams.

    • @Simracingpaddock
      @Simracingpaddock Před 6 lety +2

      They didn't cut the feature, I found it in my testing

  • @Recon777x
    @Recon777x Před 6 lety

    With the new 1.3 patch that just came out, a whole lot of cars have had performance tweaks. I'd be curious if they would be reviewed as more accurate or better representations of these cars now than they were during this review.

  • @oj7177
    @oj7177 Před 4 lety

    For the difficulty on pc2, imo is pretty consistent. I've played with the difficulty set to 100 in the gt4 class and Renault rs01 and i always find them as fast as the previous race. I didn't experienced the skipping session bug (when they're super fast), and in my case it is the complete opposite. If i skip the session they won't be as fast as if i wait the end of it

  • @ippaihea
    @ippaihea Před 6 lety +4

    Damn you Gamermuscle "mouth" , I wasn't going to get this !

  • @RebelDrifter
    @RebelDrifter Před 6 lety

    Hi. Cool vid. What about drifting tho... How much drifting is there in the game? Are there modes? Points? Multiplayer? Segments on a track for points? How much cars are there with the steering angle / lock LIKE the radbull mx5? Etc. Thanks! I only want to look at this game for drifting cuz thats all I do. Cheers!

  • @nyranstanton203
    @nyranstanton203 Před 5 lety +2

    Race 07 is still my favourite racing game lol, everythign just feels right.,

  • @lukeouellette9465
    @lukeouellette9465 Před 4 lety

    I had a race in the clio cup cars in single player where the weather went from sunny to rain to snow and was great driving in the snow felt really good very slippery and little grip

  • @GregzVR
    @GregzVR Před 6 lety

    How about a DiRT 4 RX vs PC2 RX video, on similar tracks(where possible).

  • @dtmjax5612
    @dtmjax5612 Před 5 lety +1

    Project Cars 2 is excellent. So is Assetto Corsa. I think AC better represents the true feeling of the car on track but only slightly. PC2 offers much more options regarding cars, tracks, dynamic weather and time of day, etc. Both are great...if I could only have one I’d probably pick PC2, but if you asked me last week or maybe next, I might say AC. Anyway I realize a comparison between the two wasn’t the intention of your video, but it seems you can’t discuss one without the other. Good review, thanks for posting the video!

  • @tombeaumont5479
    @tombeaumont5479 Před 6 lety

    T500RS isn't working. The game doesn't recognise it's there. Anyone else got this issue?

  • @JosepGGevga
    @JosepGGevga Před 6 lety +1

    you could tell me or pass me, as you have configured the graphic options

  • @agenthoini
    @agenthoini Před 6 lety

    I never saw that amount of smoke coming from the tires of a gt3 car going around portimao :D

  • @richysracing9524
    @richysracing9524 Před 6 lety

    Whats the best ffb settings for thrustmaster tx then people??? 👍
    I want my wheel to last i like medium ffb not strong

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  Před 6 lety

      Not sure but it should have ok defults , you can reduce the volume if you want less strength.

    • @richysracing9524
      @richysracing9524 Před 6 lety

      GamerMuscleVideos
      Defaults feel a bit yak to me, so used to assetto man lol, I'll try find someone whos got a tx niceone anyway follow sip tea 🍵sim racer lol 😂

  • @EnragedMollusk
    @EnragedMollusk Před 6 lety +32

    I love simcade. Someone should make a game called "Simcade".

    • @eduardofreitas8336
      @eduardofreitas8336 Před 4 lety +7

      hahahahaha would be awesome. i can already see the videos? "Is Simcade a simcade?"

    • @jounaas
      @jounaas Před 4 lety +6

      @@eduardofreitas8336 its forza

  • @UnderDog333
    @UnderDog333 Před 6 lety

    I appreciate your good honest reviews.looks like a must buy from me, could somebody please tell me if I bought the disk version will it be unlockable on steam like project cars 1 was? thanks

  • @gaotyan
    @gaotyan Před 6 lety

    can any one tell me if the VR mode work on ps4 yet?

  • @Avean
    @Avean Před 6 lety +1

    Project Cars have always nailed everything perfect but my question is simple: Is it fun? There really need to be a demo of this.

  • @chikennabugwu2296
    @chikennabugwu2296 Před 6 lety

    Can you guys help me with force feedback my wheel is a thustmaster thx, I don't know if it's only at Texas with the stock car but the forcefeed back clips a lot for me and will almost go away in the trip oval and will still clip, I need help

  • @thegiovannimauro
    @thegiovannimauro Před 6 lety

    16:27 Does Joel Zimmerman actually play PC2 or is it just some guy from Canada that set his name as Joel Zimmerman?

  • @BigJackGameplays
    @BigJackGameplays Před 6 lety

    Hey, I want to know your opinion on Project Cars 2 vs. Gran Turismo Sport.
    I want to buy one of them (PS4), but both of them seem so awesome I cannot choose!

  • @dn3run
    @dn3run Před 6 lety +2

    Noooo way you said SIMCADE after your statement in the livestream :P :D

  • @matissozols600
    @matissozols600 Před 6 lety

    spot on review

  • @turbulenttimes3749
    @turbulenttimes3749 Před 6 lety +7

    preloading and exited for it; after the forza 7 demo also in need for this since i had just horrible wheel controls on forza7. also to be mentioned i really liked project cars one for what it was; so pc2 for my racing seat with wheel and forza for controller and couch :) i like them both and as a racing game enthusiast this is a great september :) have a good time and greetings from the austrian alps!

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  Před 6 lety +2

      If you like PC1 this will blow your trousers off PC1 when it comes to the driving is maybe a 4/10 this is a 8/10

  • @mesfigas
    @mesfigas Před 5 lety

    Hi GM.
    i always need to watch your video 1st before start playing pc2 because i cannot convince myself that this game is a simulator :)

  • @tugainbristolgaming
    @tugainbristolgaming Před 6 lety

    loved that statement hahah xD 7:34

  • @aracon9721
    @aracon9721 Před 6 lety +2

    18:35 and i thought I'm the only one having those suicide moments... 😂

  • @carmenhunt4984
    @carmenhunt4984 Před 5 lety +1

    ( ANGELTEAR Here. good Vid. Your kinda usefull, I think I'll keep ya around.

  • @SPIRA-ART
    @SPIRA-ART Před 6 lety

    had the same qualifying bug at project cars 1...noticed that by changing the real time factor instead of skipping to end of session, bypassed this problem. Maybe this will work here too.

  • @cypher9000
    @cypher9000 Před 6 lety +1

    To add to the VR points - I think RaceRoom does an amazing job too. PC2 image quality is far far better than PC1, which is good news.

  • @Jesper80yt
    @Jesper80yt Před 6 lety

    If livetrack works a track Will improve just by cars driving on it. If Q is one hour 1 to 2 second better laps arent odd. Great video. Keep going.

  • @techtipsuk
    @techtipsuk Před 6 lety +1

    Never associate your videos with getting straight to the point. :-)

  • @robmuzz
    @robmuzz Před 6 lety +1

    I don't play online, but I find many single player career/campaign/stories are, for me, just a hinderance to unlocking stuff. I'm looking forward to PC2 for the sandbox style of gameplay, where I can do anything from the outset.

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  Před 6 lety

      Yep the most fun is just making events and learning different cars tracks / playing with things :)