Bodies (2023) Netflix Limited Series Review
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- When a body, the same body, is found on Longharvest Lane in London's East End in 1890, 1941, 2023, and 2053, one detective from each period must investigate. As connections are drawn across the decades, the detectives soon discover their investigations are linked, and an enigmatic political leader becomes increasingly central. To solve the mystery, the four detectives must somehow collaborate and uncover a conspiracy spanning over 150 years. Bodies is a time-travel murder mystery limited series on Netflix. Should it be on your watchlist? Thanks for checking out my Bodies (2023) Netflix Limited Series Review!
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My couch rating system:
5 - A must-watch - do not pass this one up
4 - It's really good, you should see it
3 - It's OK - maybe good for a rental
2 - It's not that good and I wouldn't recommend it
1 - It's terrible and I definitely don't recommend it
0 - Cutting off a finger is better than watching this
#netflix #bodies #mystery #timetravel - Zábava
Bodies is the kind of show that’s entertaining while you watch, but falls apart when you think about it afterwards (even for a fictional tale.)
Time travel always does that.
But I enjoyed the show.
Hope they don't make a 2nd season.
1 : Why did Defoe's body appear in four different timelines while Hassan and Elias only appeared in one timeline when using the throat?
2 : From where was the material sourced to construct the bomb?
3 : If Elias needed to travel back in time to become Harker and subsequently "create" himself as Elias, then who initiated the existence of Elias who traveled back to become Harker?
4 : What caused Elias to vanish? Didn't he journey back in time to 2053 to assume the identity of Harker and fabricate a bomb? Thus, there should be a version of him existing until 2053 without a bomb being crafted and lives being lost.
5 : What significance lies behind the tattoo?
6 : Why did future Hassan anticipate disbelief from her present self, despite the present Hassan being fully aware of the surreal circumstances?
7 : For what purpose does Harker preserve Defoe's body in a tank?
8 : What necessitated Polly to kill Iris?
9 : Why did Said choose to end his own life?
10 : What's the rationale behind Hassan discovering the body? Wouldn't it be simpler for Harker to utilize the recordings to manipulate Elias into killing everyone?
11 : Why not opt to return to Sarah's apartment and inform her that you're from the future, warning her that if she doesn't embrace Elias, he will ultimately cause harm to everyone?
I think i know the answer for number 3 and 5, but am not sure.
For number 3 its not really an answer, but this is an example of a bootstrap paradox, where a circumstance in the future travels back and enables its own exsistance - it never exsisted, but also always exsisted. It has no origin because it was always there.
For number 5, after we see the throat in action, a scene shows the throat shining in the same shape as the tatoo. Makes me think that if you are to pass trough the throat, you get the tatoo on your wrist.
(I havent watched the video yet so im not sure if these next questions/statements have been answered/explained):
The series creates a specific rule of time travel troughout most of its story. But in the end, it switches its rules again in order to change the past and make a cliché happy ending.
This creates a paradox - if they changed the past, the bomb didnt go off, harker didnt get to power, and he didnt time travel back. Wich means that there is no reason for anyone to be sent back in time, to prevent the past, so the bomb did in fact go off as nobody was there to stop it. It's either this or nothing in the series actually happened and we were just watching a made-up story of an alternative reality the whole time.
The final shots of the detectives make me think that they still remember the time loop - how if nothing ever happened?
If Harker became such an important part of society, him not exsisting in the past would probably cause many more aftereffects than just the bomb not going off. How is the world exactly the same (except for the bomb)?
I really loved this. Im a DARK fan as well. I wish they would have explained the tattoo and dropped the ending with Lily in the cab.
The tattoo was Just the shape the time traveling "throat" machine made/was making.
@@Edward.E.Nigma. Tattoo was promising and should have a more significant value in it. What a waste
@@aysteria4ever I thought it was a cool concept if the tattoo showed how many times the loop happend.
Bodies is amazing. Binged all 8 episodes.
Bodies is about as good as anything there is in the time travel sub-genre of science-fiction. If you liked shows such as Dark or The Devil's Hour, or loved Predestination or any of the smarter time travel stories around then you'll be very happy with this surprising gem. It's tense, atmospheric, genuinely original and wholly unpredictable.
This series is the exquisitely crafted intersection of all of them. It weaves together the lived and experiences of 4 people, scattered across time in London. Each time period is crafted, from costumes to music, with care and precision. It's both hopeful and tragic, and so compelling
While I agree that the series is very well done and beautifully crafted, in my opinion they sort of messed up on the time travel part of it.
While most of the series sets up a rule of how time travel works in this universe, the finale destroys this rule in order to achieve a happy ending.
The smarter movies you mentioned make one rule and stick to it - predestination is all about us viewing a (wo)man going around a already determined path. Travelling back in time does not change the future, as that was what always happened and was supposed to happen.
Bodies sets up the same rule, only to break it in the finale by saying "well, actually you can change the past. So this all didnt happen, actually." And creates a time paradox of itself (which in my opinion is a dissappointing and meaningless ending). What they could have at least done is show the universe malfunction because of the time paradox that it made, but nothing happens. Time goes on, with very little changed - the only butterfly effect seen is the bomb not exploding.
It is a great series - only looking from the viewpoint of the storytelling. Trying to think too much about it ruins the series in my opinion.
12 monkeys stands out in my mind. I remember going to the theater several times (3 to 4 times, maybe more) and being blown away. No Netflix back then, and matinee prices were pretty cheap.
Loved Dark as well, so I'm gonna watch this.
Dark was one my favorite series of all time! Really looking forward to watching this one. Thanks for the review Chris. I'll be sure to check it out!
Can tell you now!! it doesn't come anywhere near dark. Personally it's a lazy effort. Always senced a lul in the editing. Wish Steven Graham wasn't in this. Bit of knock on him
@@patientdD420 I agree. This just made me appreciate Dark more.
@@patientdD420the source material this show is based on predates DARK by a few years.
I have one episode left and honestly I just want to rewatch Dark again. It's not bad, it's just Dark is so much better.
I absolutely agree. It was good but not great. DARK still executed this concept better.
I was thinking of rewatching Dark too. Just simply a masterpiece.
@erinsoulmission3709 4th of November is this Saturday. Perfect moment to start a rewatch 😉 It's such a rewatchable series as well; all the new details we notice once we know the whole story! Masterpiece indeed.
‘Dark’ is great, but just because both shows share elements of alternative time travel (and the inciting incidents share similar motivation) it’s hard to compare one to the other. ‘Dark’ is longer after all, so tells a more complex story. ‘Bodies’ is more concise and richer in terms of set design.
I like time travel stories, and I recommended ‘Dark’ to people who wouldn’t have watched it before but are now intrigued because they liked ‘Bodies’.
Dark is sooo good & definitely can be watched more than once. It was written so well.
Definitely had "Dark" vibes, and also the movie "Predestination" starring Sarah Snook and Ethan Hawke!
I thought the "social commentary" was done very tastefully. Most of it I didn't even consider commentary, it was just settings and characters. Nothing was shoved in your face, there wasn't an "agenda." It was refreshing to watch something that you felt respected as an audience. I just finished it and i thoroughly enjoyed it. But i just keep hearing about Dark, which I've never seen, so.... On to the next!
I honestly think Dark kickstarted all these time travel shows we've been getting the last few years. As for my fav time travel movie? Probably The Edge of Tomorrow.
Its not time travel per se,
It just the day relived albeit from different views from Cage's perspective.
Surprisingly, BODIES is based on a graphic novel of the same title that's been around before the DARK series.
This gave me Predestination paradox vibes with Elias being in a continual loop as both his own Great great Grandfather and Great great Grand son. He is the beginning and end of his bloodline spanning two centuries.
Makes no sense
If you haven't already, watch the movie "Predestination" starring Ethan Hawke and Sarah Snook. That really takes it to the extreme!
@@AmanCreatesArt As I said on another comment, Predestination is one of the worst films of all time.
The short story Predestination is based on is a lot better than the movie; "-All You Zombies-" was written by Robert A. Heinlein in 1959 which is why the movies' dialog seems o weird.
I couldn’t understand how Elias came to be in the first place to even start such a loop?
I love Bodies 1890 the best part ,Alfred and Henry ♥️
Great review dude, looking forward to chatting about this one with you.
Main Time Traveller Mannix is the great grandfather of himself but I am just wondering whether he would have been born except for the invention of the Time Machine - I mean wouldn't he have had initially another paternal grandfather or is he a human who can only exist on the premise that Time travel is real. Great interweaving the story but I feel the 1941 story got a little repeated out of sequence and the main detective of 1941 should have been hung before police or in a courtyard and not before the Rabbi
Time travel you say? So many...Primer being one of the best. About Time for a soppy one. Terminator for action. Arrival, 12 Monkeys, Edge of Tomorrow, Predestination, to name a few.
Predestination = One of the worst films of all time.
@@danielgardecki1046 Jeez Louise I'd hate to know what you think are the best of all time then! 🤪
@@Nostromo2144 It goes something like this:
1 - Remember The Titans
2 - Men Of Honor
3 - A Beautiful Mind
4 - The Pianist
5 - Patch Adams
6 - Black Hawk Down
7 - Deja Vu
8 - John Q
9 - Harry Brown
10 - Borat
I Loved Predestination it's one of those movies you really have to pay attention to but Dame that ending 🤯 I recommend Time crimes have to read subtitles but it's worth it and convergence 😁👍
Just finished Bodies. Now I’ll have to go start Dark. 😂
Bodies was amazing. Took me two days to watch it all.
Oooh, you are in for a treat with Dark! I wish I could watch it again for the first time!
Word of advice.
All the names and relationship u needa get a good grip and you will enjoy the ride
This show was absolutely fantastic
Dark is my favourite series of all time. I just finished the first two episodes of Bodies and it looks really promising. As always, interesting review. Thanks❤
Mainly filmed in *Bradford* (and Yorkshire in general) the world's first *UNESCO City of Film* and *UK City of Culture* although you wouldn't know that from the teaser or the trailer, which only showed 2 clips roughly a second long each from the *Main Entrance Hall* of *Bradford City Hall* where I'm stood in my profile picture. *Bradford City Hall* was used for 7 different locations in *Peaky Blinders.*
I hadn't paid much attention to the images at 2:58 and 4:55 until now, however I now know for certain that is the *Sekhon Group Warehouse* on *Hick Street* in the heritage neighbourhood of *Little Germany, Bradford.* I knew it was being used as a production base, and as I suspected it was being used as a filming location too, specifically for the *Police Station,* which can be seen on *Google Maps* images from August 2022.
*Peaky Blinders* fans should recognise that warehouse as *Tommy's Factory Offices.*
The warehouse was also used in *The ABC Murders* as a theatre exterior and the Belgian flashback scenes, along with Jay's workshop in *Jay's Yorkshire Workshop.*
*Hick Street* (the entrance to the warehouse) and *Cater Street* (the back of the warehouse) are usually the main *Little Germany* streets used for filming, however *Burnett Street* which connects them both, seems to be the main street used for filming in this, along with *Vicar Lane which can be seen in the background of one one photo I've seen.
*Lister Mills* in *Manningham, Bradford* and *Salts Mill* in *Saltaire, Bradford* (which was also used in Peaky Blinders) are also used in the show.
*Bradford* is used for 2053 (although that's mainly *Leeds* obviously) and with 1890 for certain, and is possibly used for 1941 and 2023 too.
A lot of the historical street scenes were filmed in Hull, which seems to becoming a bit of a trend these days, (our 'old town' area can easily pass for 1890 and 1941 with very little changes!)
@@DaveBartlett I haven't seen it yet, as I'm too busy updating mainly Bradford (and Yorkshire) productions on IMDB on a daily basis, when I'm not getting distracted by related productions from elsewhere (mainly from the North East lately)....
But it was obvious from the amount of time they spent in Bradford and Hull, that Bradford and Hull are the main filming locations...
...But as usual Leeds get all the credit (when Liverpool and Manchester, both of which are 3 times smaller than Bradford by area, aren't involved).
Bradford is constantly being used for period dramas, however those same locations are occasionally used in modern day set productions too.
An article from The Yorkshire Post last week about 5 Yorkshire horror films (2 of which were filmed in Bradford), and the fact IMDB have recently made their website better in one sense, but worse in another, has finally forced me to do what I've been meaning to do for years, and that's...
Make a list of every single Bradford filmed production on IMDB, so that I can spot the productions where Bradford is missing from the locations easier, not to mention the 1000s which haven't been added yet (mainly single TV episodes, shorts and music videos).
If you want to enjoy "Bodies" you can't overthink it. The one outstanding thing about this series is the depiction of the two gay characters. Nearly all Hollywood and streaming service gay characters are pathological, superficial, conniving, dishy, or treacherous. In Bodies, Hillinghead is heroic in refusing to frame his ally and lover, Henry, for the "murder."
These series are the fiction of science fiction, to say the least. Any realistic paradoxes are ignored or the storyline writers are not aware of any. They had to follow at least two phenomena: the grandfather's paradox and the butterfly effect. I was hyped at the beginning, but let down by nonsense in the end.
All time travel stories have nonsense and paradox.
I like this show but didn't really get it till episode 6 and 7😅😊
A positive and fair review with nice comment on technical presentation. 5 couches from me for your review ❤
DARK is my favourite all time Netflix show and that's exactly why I watched Bodies. It is really good, not overly confusing, but the writing is not as logic-proof as DARK. Still really really good and I highly recommend people to watch it!
Dark last season is useless to watch, its like a circus
Bodies is the best series of all the time, the actors performance was outstanding
The love story between ,the photographer and , detective did not need to be in as far as I can see , I have not finished it yet so unless it means something it's only in to tick boxes.
you got me at Dark!!! me going to do some binging 😊
3:16 ... Fringe ... My favorite show of all time
Tbh my wife and I didn’t love the show but it was definitely interesting. Last two episodes felt like a slog.
Favourite time travel movie: Predestination- what a mind bending film!!
I'm on episode 5. Utterly confused
Glad to see DARK is getting a lot of love
Great show!!! 💯 Loved it 😊
Just finished it and I was Hooked 😍 I cried when sharra hugs 🫂 her further her. 😢😭😭 I would love to go to the past me and hug her. Or even my future me comes and hugs me 🫂 😅❤
Dark is the standard, and it's a masterpiece. This is good, though the ending is contrived to open up the plot for a second season.
looks good
I wasn't so fond of Dark. I found it rather boring. I'm far more invested in Bodies and have enjoyed the series very much. Pacing and storytelling have been far better (for me) than 'Dark'. But that's only me.
Take care and stay well
I couldn’t get into Dark either - much preferred this
I'm S2E6 into Dark and oh boy what have I miss for the past 6 years!
Every episode is pushing 9 for me.easily.
Having a family tree (cheap code) when I started watching actually keeps me on track without a giant spoiler. Not saying you should try rewatching again
Just finished.
8/10 pushing 9.
Glued to seat til last episode.
A little letdown at the end.
Sole reason for Maddix to create so much mayhem was just to find a little love and hug? Feels a bit compeling.
I'll take biff tannen from BBTF 2 as a more logic reason to know of the furture.
And Julian Harker would have no control over the years he didnt exist at all till he was reborn. 1942 to 1998?
All of the buildings, clues, bombs were intact for more than half a century. Okay its Sci-Fi and imagination I get it. Hence, its a 8 from me.
Dont forget that mannix built a cult that passed through the generations that would have made sure that all went to plan during the years that be didnt exist
Thoroughly enjoyed it, but thought afterwards about the actions taken in the final episode.
Sending Iris Maplewood back to 1890, just on the chance of influencing the progress, seemed a little bit desperate and badly planned. They obviously could travel back to 2023, (as future Shahara Hasan proved, to make the definitive phone call,) so why didn't they just travel back to 2023 in the first place, and kill Elias, before the bomb was detonated? Job done!
You do realise that the buildings they filmed at have been intact for 100s of years.
*Little Germany* in *Bradford,* and *Old Town* in *Hull,* have those names for a reason.
The same goes for most city and town centre buildings across the UK.
*Bradford* the world's first *UNESCO City of Film* is regularly used for period dramas, however it's also used for present day and future stuff too, just like it is in *Bodies.*
Some *Bradford* filmed period productions include: Six Triple Eight (2023 or 2024), 1920 (2008), 1920 London (2016), A Passionate Woman (2010), Bank of Dave (2023), Blow Dry (2001), Downton Abbey (2019), Funny Cow (2017), Gentleman Jack (2019-2022), Gold (2019), National Treasure (2016),Official Secrets (2019), Peaky Blinders (2013-2022), Red Riding 1974 (2009), Red Riding 1980 (2009), Red Riding 1983 (2009), Seaforth (1994), South Riding (2011), Testament of Youth (2014), The ABC Murders (2018), The Brides in the Bath (2003), The Duke (2020), The English Game (2020), The Great Train Robbery (2013), The Crown (2016-2023), The English Game (2020), The Life and Crimes of William Palmer (1998) The Railway Children Return (2022), The Royal (2003-2011), Victoria (2016-2019), Wall of Tyranny (1988) etc
Some *Bradford* filmed present productions include: A Touch of Frost (1992-2010), Ackley Bridge (2016-present), Band of Gold (1995-1997), Billy Liar (1963), Britz (2007), Commando 3 (2019), Coronation Street (1960-present), Damon and Debbie (1987), DCI Banks (2010-2016), Edge of Darkness (1985), Emmerdale (1972-present), Girlfriends (2018), LA Without a Map (1999), Life at the Top (1965), No Angels (2004-2006), Playing the Field (1998-2002), Rita Sue and Bob Too (1987), Room at the Top (2012), Room at the Top (1959), The Ghost Squad (2005), The Selfish Giant (2013), The Syndicate (2012-2022), Welcome to Karachi (2015)Wasteland (2018), Wetherby (1985) etc
Some *Bradford* filmed future productions include: Residue (2015), King Charles III (2017), Spooks: Code 9 (2008), The Windsors (2016-2020) Utopia (2013-2014) etc
Plus many more productions from other locations across the city.
99% of the above are productions that filmed in just 2 areas of the city, which are *Bradford City Hall* and *Little Germany* both of which can be seen in *Bodies.*
My days,that was long. Could not Wait for it tspeed up.
Can you watch Leo movie and give us your review for the movie.
This was a masterpiece
ok just binged. like it a lot specially the last episode. but i have questions.
I know where am gonna spend my Friday night 😅
DARK is So deep philosophical. Bodies tells who is the top elite rules this world, what is near future society He wants. and his mental situation.
It was good ❤. Dark is better though.
By a distance.
The worst sc-fi for sure. Stephen Graham looks like he just turned for work. Still scratching my head .such a lull in the air
This one was amazing! But Dark is still the fkng king of time travel
This was good,10/10
We appreciate your insights. Keep up the good work.
This was really good 😊😂
Shout out Fringe! Top 10 show
I don't see any redundancy, I don't know what you're talking about
I love it.
Social commentary is shoved so hard down your throat that it that the intrigue of the hook is killed in the first episode. The show might be good, but I will probably never know.
Dark season 1 was innovative and mind bending. Then the subsequent seasons got way to confusing.
Know You Are Loved
LOL!
i love this series, each to their own but i think it's better than dark
How?
@@leonardobraynen1524 i enjoyed the english language, dialect, the acting, the plot. i just think it's better
yea this one is a good one
Wish I could spend all day watching movies and tv shows as there is not enough hours in the day to work full time and review as many different series and movies you watch
That's why I get them early so I can watch/review at night and schedule them out in advance.
Bodies is very enjoyable nonesense!
Bodies was good, but babbbbby "Dark" was made by The Gods, it was a masterpiece.
I loved bodies, but it's hard to enjoy these show after watching dark 😂
All these happened because Elias had mommy issues
Ok this contrived time travel show is so convoluted that even Ryan from Pitch Meeting would go WTF. How It Should Have Ended would be applying the ‘Grandfather Paradox' in the first episode, go back to 1900s kill Elias as he come out of the time portal. That stop him from having kid and manipulate his wife and killed the gay red head cop. Stop his lineage and creating a perpetual paradox. Kill the guy who created the Time Machine to prevent another temporal anomaly
Years of Star Trek prepared me for time travel bullshit
Im sorry but i watched 1 episode and just couldn't do it. The writing is bad, which leads to subpar acting, the editing gave me whiplash, and the cinematography is generic. All that makes me care less about whatever explanation im sure the show will get to about how this body shows up in all 4 timelines. Pales in comparison to Dark.
Dark PALES in comparison to Bodies. Bodies is one of the best stories I've ever experienced!
Complicate plot
No thanks Chris
Was the homosexual business in the comics, or did the wokies at Netflix inject that to suit their agenda? It seemed completely unrelated to anything else in the plot, which makes me suspect the latter.
This show was terribly written with more holes than a sieve.
The main plot makes zero sense. Why would the villain travel back in time to change the future when he's already living in the future that he created/wanted? The 'good guys' would be the ones who would want to go back in time to stop the villain creating an alternative future, which they finally do in the last 5 minutes of the show, although they only go back in time to 5 minutes before a nuclear catastrophe (give yourselves a bit more time guys... you can travel through time!)
The villains future unfolding takes a series of events needing to occur in order for it to happen, including hundreds of people being on board with his plans. How will he convince future generations to go along with his plans once he's dead? Using grammar phone records to convince people what to do (they'll definitely last 90+ years & everyone has a record player in 2021 😐)
Add to that some average acting & really bad casting & this series is a dud.
Saying Bodies a poor man's Dark, is giving the show too much credit
only thing i dislike about this series is the gay scenes 🤦🏻 whyyy netflix???
Uncle iroh would not approve of this comment
neither would master Gyatso
So you’re just homophobic
Bot-bigots up in arms over two grown men being attracted to one another, ignore a 50-year old male having a child w/ a female who’s still practically a child. 🙄
I agree. It’s as if every movie or show is required to have gay elements to it
At least dark was not woke
curious about how this show was woke?
@@thrussythreethousandI’m only commenting to hopefully get a notification when he responds. I’m quite curious myself.
And it was completely unnecessary and it doesn't take the story anywhere. It's taked on and not needed at all.
It seems that the mere presence of a non-white or a non-straight character is enough to label a show “woke”
@@thrussythreethousandtwo gays sleeping together??
If you ask Sci-fi experts they will tell you "This show completely butchers time-travel 'science' ". They went with the less acceptable theory of "When you change the past, you change the future" where in actuality you most likely change the future of the specific timeline you've arrived in. The timeline you left will continue as it was, and nothing will change in it. When you jump back in time, you create another timeline, and as you continue to jump in time, you create infinite timelines. That's the more accepted theory of time travel.
If something bad happened in your past, by jumping back in time, say you're leaving a friend behind. That friend will just keep living as if nothing has changed, but you, by changing the past, are just preventing that specific future from happening in your new timeline.
This show also completely blatantly shoves disgusting agendas down viewers throats (Netflix, eh?).. I literally had to skip some scenes. To be clear, I don't mind with subtle and nuanced agenda shoving.. but this is overstepping a CLEAR red line.
For that, using your couch rating system, I'm only giving this show 2.5 couches.