X-Jet vs Downstream Pressure Washing | My take on this DEBATE!
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In this XJet vs Downstream video, I explain the difference between these two Pressure Washing methods. Leave a comment below if you have any questions, and let us know which method you prefer. Our passion is to help new comers to this business master the industry, as well as help hone the skills and techniques of experienced exterior cleaning contractors. We make understanding XJet vs Downstream issues clear and concise and hope this will help your pressure washing business!
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Hello sir.. this is the first video I'm seeing from you and I'm impressed. Seems like you're truly in it for sharing knowledge. That's all it took for me to subscribe. Looking forward to seeing and learning more from you.
Thank you.
Hi Doug,
THANK YOU! for explaining the difference between x-jet and down stream. It going to help me out a lot.
Michael C your very welcome. Glad it helped
Hi Doug. Just received my X jet last week, & tried it the other day .....waaay too much pressure. Have been d/s for years now, but thought I'd give it ago. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Secondary hose will probably turn out to be a pain, but then again, all my work is flat commercial, so, big open areas. Time will tell, no doubt.
Wow. Awesome content! I am in the stages of getting a business going. I really want to learn and get a proper base understanding before I start charging normal prices or maybe charging period. Thanks for this info for people like me starting.
You sir are a champion, thank you for all the videos. Just bought a 4GPM hotsy, going to be doing both heavy equipment and soft washing with same unit.,
Thank you.
Appreciate the video, really helped inform me on some things. I downstream and haven’t used my x jet yet. Most houses I do are vinyl. I like it a lot. But anyways great video and much respect to ya.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you!! I just started pressure washing on my channel and this was very helpful
Thank you glad to know it helped
My rig uses a dewalt 4GPM with adjustable pressure. It allows for psi as low as needed for softwashing yet it goes all the way up to 4400psi. Really cool feature. For that reason I’ve been xjetting for a year or so. A $230 investment for a 60k return. I am happy. Shoots about 30 feet before misting gets severe, so I’m looking to pic up one of your modified versions soon.
I prefer downstreaming because I get more distance and it’ll take care of most situations; I use my Softwash (P36) when cleaning roofs or heavily mildewed tall walls/brick; I’ll pull out the X-jet on smaller and sometimes harder to get to areas that are really dark where downstreaming will take forever to clean.
Thanks Grandpa Pressure. Your the bomb. Just found your channel
Thanks. Welcome to the Channel
WOW sush a great and simple way to explain streaming I just got subscribed thank you
Thank you. Appreciate it.
I have to comment on the x jet. Using this without a proportioner tip (barb only) will pull a 50/50 mix from your batch tank. A 5 gallon bucket full of 12.5% SH and your surfactant will provide a 6.25% mix without the plastic tip. A 5 gallon bucket with 2 1/2 gallons of 12.5 SH and 2 1/2 gallons of water will provide a 6.25 mix in the bucket, and using the x jet without a tip will get you a 3.125% mix coming out of the x jet at this rate. I mix batches in a 30 gallon barrel that I leave on my trailer and run a 180 ft by 3/8 hose from it and it works great! I've been using this method for a few years now and I've cleaned everything I can think of, including asphalt shingles. Using the method to create a 6.25% mix will clean a roof great! Only issue with using the x jet is that it creates a lot of over -spray, but the more you use it, the better you get.
Great insight Jason. Thanks for the info.
Using an jet on a roof can also cause the shingles to fly up due to the amount of pressure, unless you use a modified x jet. This is one of the reasons I'm not a fan of x jets for roof cleaning. That and the mist as you stated. You'll also use lot more bleach
Hey Jason.. Thanks for the insight and your replay. I'm just trying to double check here though because this is different than what Doug Rucker says... I'm not saying you're wrong but one of these is correct and the other isn't. He says 50% or 6.25 in the bucket is going to hit the house at 6.25/50%.... I don't see how that can be the case but can you confirm here? Thanks for your info again!
@@mattmayo937 the x jet comes with tiny proportioner tips which allows you to apply different chemicals at different ratios. Using the x jet without a tip, (barb only) produces a 2 to 1 ratio, or 50%. Whatever your mix is in the bucket, cut it in half when using it this way.
@@jasongroff7692 what about reducing to half throttle, doesn’t that increase the chemical amount? Because you are now pulling about half the amount of water?
Appreciate the video Sir! Hope your business is going well and getting better! I'm just getting started getting my equipment list/budget/knowledge together over the winter in preparation to start (just on the side part-time) this Spring. Super excited but also nervous and feel like I don't know what I'm doing because it's a lot to remember, but I know I'll be successful if I keep at it and market my brand aggressively. I already have a logo and and working on getting a shirt or two made so I can compete with the pros in my area. Wish me luck and let me know if you have any advice you could give me (I could probably use it!!)
Get the basic fundamentals down and practice on your home, friends and family homes before taking in customers. My online school will help drastically cut your learning curve. Wish you Best of luck.
I've used x-jet for industrial food service cleaning. It's a bit easier to work with. We used 3 gallon plastic j-cans. I can see a similar benefit when doing remote location work such as back garden walkways or multiple water based treatments. wash, wax, bleach, algecide, soap...., heck even some sort of quat or scent... It's a bit more swiss army knife than bowie knife. IMHO
Great explanation of both methods.
Thanks
Solid info. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
I prefer the jrob/downstream injector as well Doug. Thank you
I prefer the xjet M5 , especially when working solo in the Texas heat. It allows me to switch back and forth between chem and rinse on the spot without a lot of running back and forth. That way I water plants, shoot chem, then go right back to watering or quickly rinsing.
We put the shut off valve on the modified too. Great point that you can rinse quicker and hit plants faster.
ImC00LyourNOT I do not recommend using x jet to clean a roof. To much pressure and you’ll way too much mix.
Love the video, I have my first roof wash next Tuesday. If I buy that bypass could I do a roof wash with it. You said in the video I would get a bigger draw of mix . Please let me know
Gary Hagler If you’re talking about the check valve adapter for the downstream injector know it’s still is not gonna be strong enough for cleaning a roof
No. It will not get it strong enough. You need a dedicated pump system.
I am an X-Jet pro! Been pressure cleaning since 1991. I only use the XjetM5 now since 2017. I use an aluminum hand truck with a 55 gallon SH tank strapped and 100’ of siphon hose. I use a reducer with a mosmatic swivel on my DN-10 that leads to a jrod and Davis shooter tip. I rarely need a gun and lance anymore. The Xjet allows me to cover large areas quickly and with the % that melts organic matter. I have an enclosed trailer and I know my system is more labor intensive but my results are explosive. We also have a system by AC Lockyer that we use for soft washing but my XJet tackles the job way faster, more efficient and effective. Plus all my equipment last forever…. hoses etc.
Thank you for all you do and I will hopefully see you again at the conventions!!
Sounds like you might be the most experienced so far on XJET.... Can you answer this for me? If I use none of the colored proportioners and I make a 50/50 mix of SH/water which makes it land at 6.25% in the bucket.... When I shoot it with xjet, what % is hitting the house? 6.25% or 3.125%?? Thanks in advance for your help!
@@mattmayo937 Hi Matt, if you are using 12.5% SH then a 50/50 mix is our standard Housewash mix and it’s a little over 2%. 70/30 will be around a 3% mix and straight will give you a decent 4+% mix for roofs. I use long siphon hoses 30’ , 50’ & 100’ ; as you begin to raise the hose up a ladder suction begins to struggle, depending on how high up and at what angle you’ve placed your chemical tank. I use a 55 gallon vertical tank attached to an aluminum hand truck. I only fill about 30 gallons because of the weight. It helps to reduce splash when transporting around the property. Soft wash systems are great because you can get a much higher % at a lower volume, hence making less mess around bushes and plants, grass etc. with that being said you must keep vegetation wet always because the risk is also greater. The XjetM5 allows you to lay chems much faster and with much more pressure, allowing for greater heights. It is possible to attain that 4% hot mix as well but to get anything greater you’d need to use a pump-up or a soft-wash system. I find the Xjet tackles all jobs effectively and efficiently. Determining % of mix; there are so many factors that come into play, how long has the Chlorine been exposed to sunlight, what source did the chlorine come from, how has the chlorine been stored, how old is the chlorine, has the orifice in the Xjet gotten larger with use… it is not an exact science when taking these things into consideration. You can use the average method I gave you above to better help you batch your chems. It then will become trial and error and you’ll learn what works fir you in the climate you’re in and the amount of organic matter present on the surface you are cleaning.
Thanks for your question and I hope this helps!
@@t-n-tpressurecleaning7781 Won't using a longer hose lower the concentration as it has more resistance to pull the chem or bleach. I was hoping with the short hose and bring the bleach up the ladder to get closer to 50%? I know more labor intensive but hoping it will get me by until I get a soft wash system. I have also found putting a little jomax makes the bleach kick and be strong for a short period of time, and stuff doesn't grow back as quick, that was back in the day when I did pressure washing.
@@jerwgar I suggest using a 12v for roof cleaning and eventually getting a gas powered soft wash system. Carrying SH up a ladder and surfactant too gets old really quickly and can be dangerous depending on the severity of the pitch. It can be done and yes a shorter hose has a faster draw but holding onto a chemical pail is also very dangerous up on a roof. I bought a 12 volt 4.0 gpm bleach pump from northern tool (northstar system) just to make life easier and get a 5%-6% mix to really clean the roof with no pressure. I am building a trailer with the AR-45 gas powered system now. Xjetting roofs can be done but it’s not ideal. I still use it for everything else. Hope this helps and please be careful if you decide to go at it old school style.
I’m new to This Business only a month in. Could you send me the links to the stuff your talking about?
Awesome video sir. Quick question we have a soft wash system especially for washing roofs. What would you say about down stream or x jet for that process? I’m possibly considering either one to connect to my washer since it would be more efficient to just load up one machine instead of the two that we been using. Appreciate your time for the answer and look forward to more videos.
Downstream your mix will not get strong enough to clean a roof. X jet would be a PITA and take way longer, not to mention lugging a bucket or tank or drum around. Much better off doing it the way you are doing it.
Doug Rucker thanks appreciate the insight. We’re doing good so far with the system we have. Just may need to upgrade to a bigger tank and longer hose. But we’ve made our money back and some in like 3 weeks so I can’t complain. Thanks for the help.
Thanks for showing this I’m trying to get my 14yo son prepared so he’s not using a brush all the time but I have a question the pressure washer I’m using has a soap box can that be used as a downstream or do I need to get a attachment
You'd need to use the soap box but don't run bleach through it, sounds like one of those that the detergents go through the pump
I got a question. The videos keep saying to mix your bucket to what you want to come out of the gun but by the math im seeing i have to batch mix an 8% mix to get it to come out at 3% using a 4gpm as the #13 x jet is a 1.6 to 1 ratio. Am I doing something wrong?
I keep the x jet just for dirty stucco chimney. Just ordered a bypass and 3 way plastic ball valve. How long do you rinse the injector before you use the bypass and if you use the bypass, is any water going through the injector?
Thank you.
If you leave the bypass on so it always runs bleach, when you use the 3 way then every time you switch the 3 way to water you are rinsing the injector at the same time.
I’m just now starting out so all I have is an X-Jet. Getting ready to setup a full trailer setup with commercial grade equipment. Do you guys carry pressure washers in-store or do they need to be ordered?
Alberto all ours are built to order...
Bought XJet a long time ago. Got longer hose and a cart for SH drum. Used it 2 times only. Too much spray from X5 nozzle and sucks on windy days. I really need to take time to modify it. Right now I downstream and use backpack sprayer for bad areas. But on houses where entire walls and sides are bad, I have to downstream those areas 2-3 times to get it clean, eating up more time and wasting SH diluting it through 200 ft hose. Guess I will get off my ass and modify the XJet today!!!
It is a love hate relationship w x jet. Be careful using a backpack sprayer the bleach will eat the seals out and could leak down your back. I’ve seen many injuries caused by this.
Can you get a hot enough mix from XJet - for roof washing? Or is that only a Softwash pump?
Question for you, I have an AR RSV4g40 pump, the chemical injector is built right into the manifold, when it comes time to change it do I just order a new injector and rob nipple and it’s internals off it?
Not completely familiar w that pump but you may be able to plug it and add a DS injector. I'd check with you who bought it from first though.
Amazing video trying to catch us well, I new to pressure Washing. Can you please help me understand. Is okay to run my 12% Bleach thru the pressure washing downstreaming?
Yes it is
Another awesome video. I down stream easy. But I may buy one of those remote downstreamers.
They are awesome. Went so many years without one now I cant go work without it. Lol
I like the pump as long as it's working
Hey, Doug. Does your modified XJet pull a stronger chemical ratio than a non modified one? Approximately what will your modified xjet pull with straight 12.5% bleach in the bucket and a 8 GPM machine?
Hey Doug, I know this video is old, but I’ve been catching up on my research for my x jet. What would I need to mix in a 5 gallon bucket to get a 3% mix? I’m using 12.5 SH.
So you need the bucket to have 30% SH....so 30% of 5 would be 1.5. So 1.5 gallons of SH then rest water should get you there. Adjust as needed for the surface and degree of staining you'd need.
@@PressureCleaningSch awesome, thank you for all the information!
If you're downstreaming, after you put the chemicals on the surface, that 3way barb you showed cuts out the extra step of having a bucket of water to put the siphon hose in to rinse out the injectors, correct?
Correct...plumb one to bleach and the other to water, and just switch the valve between tile two when needed.
I have a question..doesn't downstreaming or using a pressure washer for vinyl siding have too much overspray mist because of the power? I am thinking of using a 12 volt soft wash set up to apply the sh..and to rinse with a pressure washer.
The most would all depend on the nozzle you using
Where do you get the spouts for the bucket; all of ours broke and I can’t find them anywhere. They fit right on the five gallon carboys I xjet out of.
We can get them.
Hey doug i want some info on that check valvue injector the one w no ball and spring on it. Im in the groups on fb maybe post something ive not seen those and looking for a new go to
www.dougruckerstore.com/products/check-valve-for-chemical-injectors/
Whats the differens between using the xjet and a foamcanon/foamspray.
Nice video!
Foam Cannon would be lower pressure, but I would not use a foam cannon fro a roof or house wash except to make a nice looking presentation of soap. Wont really do anything for the cleaning
Thanks Doug! Good info. Also, if I understand correctly...with the modified Xjet located between the gun and wand it's possible to get a 5-7% mix ratio to clean then clean a roof?
Don’t think you’ll get that a high of a mix and I dint recommend using x jet for cleaning a roof. Unless you can spray it all from the gun using the modified x-jet
I cant find that downstream by pass injector?Were did you get yours?I use the downstream injector for softwashing and just use my washer to do it all(rather then a dedicated chemical pump)It does great and unlike the x jet your soap sits stationary while working
www.dougruckerstore.com/products/downstream-bypass-injector-kit/
Great visual video. Newbie ? Is the reason soft washing is so prevalent because of the accuracy of the proportioner? It gets confusing between the ds, xjet and soft wash systems.
Mainly cause you can get a stronger mix than downstreaming. Think of soft wash equipment as a pump up sprayer on steroids. Just don’t have to do the pump up and refilling the jug.
Doug great video. Is the x jet just a down stream injector at the end of the wand? They look the same to me. Only difference is down stream is at the pump x jet is after the gun. Could you just take a down stream injector and stick it at the end of the gun? Or is the x jet a different size or somthing?
Jeff Goldbloom yes that is correct
@@PressureCleaningSch Good video, So like Jeff said the downstream at the end of the gun becomes an extra? How does that make the mix stronger when it comes out? What is the difference
@@josephbailey7408 its being diluted with less water since it's not going through all the hose
Quick question, tried to see if it has alrwady been asked but didnt see it in the comments. If I use a 8gpm machine and I use the Xjet with the hose in 12.5% SH, with no proportioners being used, what is the mix ratio that I will apply? Thank you.
In this link is the x-jet instruction manual. Scroll down in the description part and you’ll see it. From there you see the ratios based on the GPM of your machine. And also if any inserts are used. www.dougruckerstore.com/products/x-jet-m5-long-range-external-chemical-injection-nozzle/
Hi Doug
Why we don't use the x-jet like we use the downstream injectors?
I mean why we don't put the x jet in the end of the pump ( like we do with the downstream injectors) and in that way we won't have to carry around the bucket plus the hose of the x jet, and we can adjust the amount it chemical with the right nozzle in our guns? Or we can sat down the chemical through a remote control?
Just a thought and a question as well
Mainly because it’s not designed to lower the psi of the machine to draw the chemical like a DS injector.
Love the xjet bucket. You have a video on the bucket?
Yes it is talked about in a couple videos
Im new and only got a small 2.3gpm pw. Its like an 18-1 on down streaming so if my math is right I'm only shooting about .070% sh out the gun. My problem is I can't pull soap with over 100ft of pressure hose.
Doug how can I fix this. A better injector? Or maybe a bigger id pressure house.the washer came with only 1/4 id pressure hose.would a small pw like mine even work with a 3/8 id hose and would it help .e pull soap with over 100 ft of pw hose. I want to leave the pw on trailer and only have to pull my pw hose around the house. Dragging all this around the house plus the set up and take down time I'm spending 5hrs on a wash. I got to speed up. Want be to long till get a better washer so maybe better to just wait till then.
But whats your advice
Not gonna happen w that low a GPM. You need to go at least 4gpm belt drive.
Can you use the downstream part just past the handle like you showed in the modified x-jet? The main reason is bc I don’t want to go back to PW to remove the downstream hose. I know I can change tips on wand, but it still seems to still pull soap from the downstream even when we put it to higher Pressure tip. I’ll have to watch closer to see if non-black tips are still pulling from downstream
Are you meaning move the downstream injector closer to the or at the gun? You could but won't make much difference in pulling. If the higher pressure tip is pulling soap the tip. Sounds like the orifice is to large. Could be the hole as gotten larger over time from water pressure or wasn't milled correctly from the manufacturer.
I prefer XJET. I like it better because i mix up jugs different chemicals for degreaser for flat work or SH mix for house wash and i can adjust more often than when i batch mixed my 50gallon tanks for 12v pump. I use modified XJET and i can shoot higher on houses on slightly windy days too. I do have a 2nd guy to help move my hoses and xjet pail buckets so that helps. I added hose to my XJET system to get me 40ft or so. I also like that no SH goes through my high pressure hose EVER. XJET also takes any mechanical failure out of the equation vs 12v PUMP. So i prefer XJET mainly.
Awesome. Sounds like you got a great set up and process.
Hey Doug I’m just getting started what’s the best way to do a roof if you don’t have a dedicated softwash pump? Should I just use an x jet?
Find your answer yet? I'm learning and would like to know as well
I got an xjet but keep thinking it’s better to return it (it’s in the mail from Amazon) and make a diy softwash 12v system instead. What do y’all suggest? To do houses and roofs
If your doing roofs definitely build yourself a 12v over the x jet
Can you perform soft wash with a high pressure hose? Using the jrod and downstream ing?
Yes. That’s the original tried and true soft washing. Can’t clean a roof though by downstreaming.
Hi Doug ! I bought shertz box from you is there a remote I can get locally that will work with it ? I’m in a bind .
Not that I am aware of. I think they are available off Amazon.
Good video....can you make a video showing how to use a down stream injector on an electric pressure washer..what brand of injector..and ALL parts needed to use a water broom??????????? THANK YOU
Sorry I don’t own an electric pressure and I doubt you can downstream w one. I also do not own a water broom
Thank you........
Whats not saod is the X Jet is the absolutely perfect tool for rinsing without the indicator hose sucking...for my I X Jet everything roofs and house when I'm doing so I turn my 4gpm machine at half throttle helps reduce the psi pressure and I have an X jet M 5 which has an adjustable twist tip so I can get the perfect fan needed.WHEN I RINSE I USE THE X jet at full throttle
Yes many different ways to use an x jet....we modify ours so it's more like downstreaming....but if we use the x jet twice a year thats a lot. Just not one of the tools we need to use to often
So if u have a 4000psi 4gpm pressure washer and I want a 1% sh ratio coming out of xjet how do I get that
I would go with 1/2-1 gallon SH and the rest water in a 5 gallon bucket....
Great explanation! What method would you recommend for a business that only cleans wood fences and would be using a chemical to clean and a chemical to brighten? Thanks!
On our web site the wood cleaner and the tannin brightener is what I use for cleaning fences and decks.
Thanks! Do you think the xjet m5 is suitable/appropriate for fence cleanings?
How much extra SH can you pull out of the check valves?
Hey Doug. On that downstreamer. You replaced the spring and ball so you can get a stronger mix? Where is that piece in your store? I want one
Also looking for a good soapy surfactant. What in using now just don't have enough bubbles and it's hard to tell what's already been washed
www.dougruckerstore.com/products/check-valve-for-chemical-injectors/
www.dougruckerstore.com/products/dougie-fresh-surfactant-1-gallon/
Any idea on the percent of mix you can get with a 8 GMP using it? Maybe 1.5 or 2%?
1 more question and I'll leave you alone lol. Where did you get your company shirts made? Those are nice
How high can you shoot with the downstream vs the xjet? I am trying to do 3 stories softwash
All depends on the flow rate of your machine. Anywhere from 30-45 feet
I'm in my first year so far, I like downstreaming. Its economical, versatile and I think it looks a more professional when it matters. Xjet M5 looks fun, like toy. I know Xjet has its purposes ( i.e. stucco) and I'd add it to my arsenal for those rare cases.
exactly my thought..."it has it's purposes"
X-jet m5 "toy". Kicks ass and has made me alot of money.
How does the X-Jet pull less water than downstreaming? From a newbie perspective, you'd think they'd both pull the same rate?
Maybe just because you can get a hotter mix? So less water to apply the same amount of chem? My xjet says it maxes out at 3:1, and my downstream says 10:1. That's my best guess on that one, as the gpm of the actual machine wont be affected very much either way.
Can I use this without a pump? I don’t have a soft wash system. I’ve heard I can get a stronger sh with this plus it seems nicer to apply chemical with this rather than the normal black tip. Thank you.
Gotta have a pump. These are made for using with pressure washers. Hope ok understanding your question correctly. If not let me know.
I have a 4200 psi 4gpm pressure washer just no soft wash system
@@Kgoutdoor yes you can a stronger mix w the x jet, not as strong as a soft wash pump, but stronger than a downstream injector
I have been trying to downstream and it hasn't been working for me. I used one brads and three stainless steel from General Pump. No clue why it won't work. I flush them after every use with a three way valve like you show, but they keep getting this sodium (I presume its sodium) buildup in them and it just shuts off. Do you have any ideas?
All I use are the brass and they last a good while. If your rinsing after each use I dint know why it’s not working. What soap do you use.
Southeast Softwash. I know other folks who use it without any issues.
Great Video! How can i apply brick acid at 3-1 ratio?
The x-jet instruction manual has a chart based on your GPM and which insert to use
What nozzle do you soap and rinse with if you use the downstream bypass and no jrod
An 0060 or the original shooter tip
Hey Doug. I right I have a 2500psi 2.3 gpm machine. I have a 2.5 story vinyl house and want to be able to apply the solution without using a ladder. I also have an extension pole but I rather try to avoid that. What would you recommend xjet or downstream? And which tip if downstream ? Thank you
Not sure either will reach 2.5 stories w a 2.3 GPM machine. But I’d probably try x jet since it will have a little more pressure. But can’t guarantee you’ll get that get high with that low a GPM machine.
Were you able to reach up to 2.5 stories with your machine?
Does anyone make a downstream injector that will draw 30 Percent instead of 20 percent?
With the modified downstreamer, will it pull through 200 ft. of hose? The regular ones will not.
I’ve only used 100 feet but I’ve heard guys say they have used 200. I wouldn’t think it would.
I wanna know when you're downstreaming with SH10. What's the percentage when it comes out of the nozzle?
probably a little over 1%, but you'd need to do a bucket test to get your % since all machines are different.
On an adjustable downstream injector fully open vs one turn out what is the ratio 4000psi 4gpm.
Hard to say. To many variables in play. You could do a bucket test and check.
I’ve been using the XJet for the last 7 years. I fill the 5 gallon bucket with 4 gallons of water and 1 gallon of 12.5 SH. I have a 75ft 3/8 hose running from the bucket to my M5 nozzle. With the XJet you never need to use a ladder. I find that’s what works for me. It’s simple and gets the job done. With down streaming,I don’t know how you can reach peaks and 2nd story without using a ladder. Maybe someone can explain that to me.
We use a shooter nozzle. Depending on the flow rate of your machine 4-8GPM you can reach 2-4 story’s
I'm in New Zealand and no one uses this system here. I love this system and will jump on the internet to find this product and order it
What’s that clear line from the X jet called again?
Trent Thompson poly braid hose
I have Ryobi electric pressure washer that has 2300 psi and uses up 1.2 gpm. Can I use this unit to soft wash my 2 story house?
I doubt that it will work well on that small of a machine.
I wish I could get a straight answer on what the ratio is coming from the gun with an xjet. I've seen everything from close to full stretch 50/50 to 3:1, etc. I guess I need to just buy one and do a draw test. Haven't seen a single draw test on xjet on CZcams lol
Excuse me sir can I use a regular 5 gallon bucket to apply my chemicals or do I need the special xjet tank thanks
You can use a 5 gallon bucket no problem
Doug Rucker thanks bro
Can anyone of these tools be used on a 2.5gpm pressure washer?
Just bought a deluxe super soaker down streamer and should eliminate both
Will be nice if it does.
I need that x jet bucket
We have them in stock. Just got more in today
Has anyone tried to use the X-Jet in the location of the regular downstream injector? I think if it would work, you could make the same hot mixes as if it was at the end of the lance. It would be nice to be able to change the orifice from a house wash to a hot roof wash using the same machine and eliminate the extra hose and bucket.
I'm not aware of anyone that has tried it. Nor have I. Seems to me you'd always pull chem w no way to rinse, as the X-jet does not operate w the venturi affect like a DS injector.
With a downstream process would that cause my equipment-hoses,gun/wand to wear out faster since I’m running SH through them?Compared to an X-jet that only has SH running through the tip?
Yes it will.
@@PressureCleaningSch Pros and cons to everything I suppose
@@micah68ss you are exactly right
So if it well where out the gun? Why are we still using the downstream method if it will eventually ruin our gun?
@@melodymashup I’ve been down-streaming this whole time (except for roof washes) and as long as everything gets rinsed properly damage from SH is minimal except for the quick connects,those seem to corrode no matter what
if i use teh downstream injector what sh % should be in teh bucket? 5%, 7.5% or 10% etc etc?
All depends on the surface you are clearing, the degree of staining, machine you are using, hose length, strength of SH etc. Lot of variables
I see a lot of guys say they dont use proportioners with the xjet. My question is, whats the technical difference between an xjet and a downstream injector. Like internally what is different?
Im wondering why you cant just put a downstream injector at the end of your gun and use an adjustable tip to get close to the same results at less than a quarter of the cost of the xjet.
You can do that but it will not be the same results as x Jet as far as strength. Difference is X-Jet does not operate off a venturi like an injector does. Injector requires pressure difference to draw the chemical. X jet uses the high pressure at the wand
would love some more info on the DS check valve. never have seen this. don't quite follow. ty much
It basically allows you to remove the ball in Spring inside of the Injector and can cause you to draw a stronger mix. Will also help your injector to last longer
@@PressureCleaningSchHow much stronger are we talking about ? 2-3% ?
@@sergiodominguez1627 could be depending on the GPM of your machine and strength of your bleach.
How would I go about getting your Downstream bypass injector and the modified xjet
Both are on our web site. www.dougruckerstore.com/products/downstream-bypass-injector-kit/.
www.dougruckerstore.com/products/x-jet-modified-gun/
When using the X-Jet and a bucket to apply chemicals, how do you know how much chemical it will draw per minute to mix with the water from the high-pressure washer? How do you determine if you are spraying at a 3% or 5% concentration of the solution?
There is an instruction manual that will come with it, and is also on our web site that will have ratios on it. Hopefully soon we will also have a calculator that can be used.
@@PressureCleaningSch thanks I will check the web
where do i find one of them buckets with that hose nozzle ? ty
Nozzle here www.dougruckerstore.com/products/x-jet-m5-long-range-external-chemical-injection-nozzle/
Bucket here www.dougruckerstore.com/products/x-jet-pail-system/
I didn't understand WHY/HOW XJet can get a higher mix ratio compared to Downstreaming. The only difference that I see was: In Downstraming the SH bucket with the siphon is located next to the pump and with the XJet the SH bucket with the siphon is located next to the gun. Ok. But WHY/HOW XJet can get a higher mix? They're looking the same to me but just with a different location. I'm missing something. If someone can explain it to me I will be grateful. Thanks in advance.
Because just like a DS injector the closer your injector is to the pump, the stronger your mix will be, as its not getting diluted with the water coming down the hose.
@@PressureCleaningSch Oooh ok, tell me if I understand. So the LENGTH of the hose in the downstreaming method will make the SH dilute much more than XJet, which has a shorter way to go (next to the gun) resulting in a higher concentration. I was thinking they would both dilute in the same way but that's not true. I was forgetting the hose impact. Thank you for enlightening me!
I wish I had the time and money to learn how to clean stuff this Looks like an amazing opportunit for a career change.
Yeah love taking something really dirty and making it look new again
can i x jet a house wash with southern draw mix or a roof
You can x jet a house, but I don't recommend for a roof. I recommend and use the Kings Kling surfactant. www.dougruckerstore.com/products/kings-kling-roof-and-house-surfactant/
I've added this as a comment to a couple posts below but putting here so it can be seen by all visiting this video.... Can someone answer this? If I use none of the colored proportioners and I make a 50/50 mix of SH/water which makes it land at 6.25% in the bucket.... When I shoot it with xjet, what % is hitting the house? 6.25% or 3.125%?? Thanks in advance for your help! Seems I'm hearing some conflicting answers so far. Doug says 50%/6.25 in the bucket hits the house at 6.25. Some others say 6.25 in the bucket hits the house at 3.125 with an xjet.
I go by whats in the bucket...works for me. I realize and understand that that's not precise, and may be a tad weaker, but I have never really needed to know the precise % hitting a surface. Here is the link to the X ket on my site. You can scroll down about 1/2 way down there is a link to the instructions from x jet. That may help you. X-Jet Chemical Injection Nozzle
@@PressureCleaningSch got it. Wasnt trying to be precise really.. Was really trying to confirm whether the bucket strength is cut in half when using xjet (as mentioned a couple times by multiple people). Thanks for the info. I'll dig into it. Thanks.
@@mattmayo937 No problem, wish I could help more, I just don't use the x jet a whole lot...maybe someone will chime in thats more experienced with it..
I think Jeremy is talking about adjusting the trotter
Doug does SH damage the hose and gun with down streaming? Love the vids
Yes it will.
@@PressureCleaningSch so why not use xjet only
@@lusean193 cause I don’t like moving a bucket around, refilling it etc and managing the hose off the x jet while trying to clean. Just not the way I prefer.
@@PressureCleaningSch Doug thanks for the quick reply your vids are great keep them coming 😁
Downstream over in Fresno tx or Missouri city has a lot of hardie plank
Alejandro Acuna Very true lots of hardy plank all over the Houston area
I thought you added neat SH and the Xjet inserts dilute it for you?
You can always use the inserts if you want. Just follow the chart provided with your x jet if thats what you prefer. Much easier and I recommend to dilute according to your needs in the bucket to save time instead of having to change the inserts out based on each individual job needs. On the last page of the instructions that come w your x jet read in full the "recipe for House Washing" for more info and tips.
@@PressureCleaningSch hi Doug to be honest mate. I preffer a 12v fatboy pump and batch mix
@@PressureCleaningSch Hey Doug! Love your videos as I am subscriber who has learned a lot from you. Like Island Raw above, with the XJet I thought you put 100% SH in the pail and let the proportioners get you the desired percent. Currently, I only clean flatwork (sidewalks/driveways etc) with 12.5% and need approx 3-4% on the surface. But I'd much rather use your method of mixing 1/3 SH and 2/3 water in the pail....but how does it not dilute the SH strength with all of the extra water coming in from the hose/house? (I completely get it if I'm using a dedicated pump up sprayer but don't get the concept with the extra water). Are we saying that at 12.5%, a 50/50 ratio in the pail would get me around 5-6% on the surface? I thought I had it figured out but now I am confused. Any clarification is much appreciated! Thank you.
@@63bigjack When mixing in my bucket for x jet. First i do not use the inserts, and I always mix in the bucket how I want it to come out. So if I want a 50/50 mix, I put 1/2 bleach in the bucket and 1/2 water., no inserts. What comes out will not be an exact 50/50 but will be fairly close. I’m not trying to get an exact %. I’m just trying to get it strong enough to change the color of the organic stains. If your want a more exact % then your are correct in using the inserts. Hope that helps.
New to washing. I thought more suds were good because they help the mix to stay on the mold and algae longer, thereby doing better at removing them. No?
"Suds" don't do anything for the cleaning. The surfactant helps to keep the surface wetter longer thereby allowing the bleach to change the color of the stains quicker. The bleach doesn't remove the stains it just changes the color of them. While more surfactant may cause the mix to "stick" the tradeoff is it takes longer to get that color change and also will "stick" to anything else better like plants and causes longer rinse time if you are going to rinse the surface. Proper spray technique, not flooding the surface, is the best way.
@@PressureCleaningSch thanks so much for explaining this
@@Gottifire Very welcome
Do you not have to mix for down streaming or is it the same with a pre mix batch?
All depends on the machine your using surface your cleaning and how bad the stains are.
@@PressureCleaningSch thanks for reply, I get that that with the xjet but with down streaming do you put say 12.5 sh in a bucket and draw it straight from or do you still have to mix like the xjet.
@@richardmauch1042 on my 5&8GPM we just downstream straight 12.5%
@@PressureCleaningSch just made an order from your store yesterday. Surface cleaner and a little this and that.
@@richardmauch1042 thank you very much. Appreciate your business
They'll both make good money
Best comment. Your exactly right
I have a 80:20 downstreamer whats the highest percent i can get?
Not really sure lotta factors play into figuring out the percentage with a downstream injector
@@PressureCleaningSch such as?
Down streaming all day. The houses around here are primarily vinyl siding.
100% agree