How the DOJ Shapes NoPixel 4.0 - Roleplay Podcast #10
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
- Esfand, KylieBitkin, NathanKB, and VoiceID (who has been on the DoJ since NoPixel 1.0) join Saab and Blau in this SPECIAL episode about the criminal justice system in GTA 5 RP. Is the Department of Justice in NP 4.0 the game master of the server? Or are they just roleplayers that interact with the admins via role play?
Guests on the show:
Kylie Bitkin / kyliebitkin
NathanKB / nathankb_
Esfand / esfandtv
VoiceID / voiceid
Saab / ssaab
Blau / blau
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0:00:00 The NoPixel 4.0 DoJ
0:04:04 How has the DoJ Changed in 4.0?
0:09:25 Do Admins Get Involved?
0:20:15 Are Judges the Gamemasters of 4.0?
0:22:44 The Laws of Being a Lawyer
0:32:50 How do you balance RP with Content?
0:39:35 Why are court cases not faster?
0:46:25 How do you keep sentences fair?
1:00:00 Risk and Rewards for Crims
1:25:22 Are Crims TOO Advanced?
1:31:10 Lack of Whitelisted Jobs
1:50:00 Taking Accountability
1:58:42 Hot Gun Policy
2:03:30 in-Character Rules Questions
2:12:19 Why Open Fire in a Negotiation?
2:29:05 What RP Do You Do Outside DOJ?
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THANK YOU FOR FEEDBACK. We’ve missed some Crim PoVs on this episode and ‘Cops vs Crims’, we’ll work on getting more whenever these topics are covered
Appreciate this whole project. It's a commitment but it works great for a podcast because you'll never run out of topics or ways to handle something, with how expansive not just NP, not just GTARP but RP in general is. You can always do it at a later episode and with different guests, tweaking things etc.
I will say that the crims a lot of us want on the podcast won’t go on, just because they know drama can be made from it
we need the Gowrls house in this podcast LOL just talking about how they live their lives lmaoo
I watch them so I'd love it but I think it needs to wait until something big happens with them, so far they're pretty disconnected so idk what they would talk about
I feel like an OOC conversation with the rest of the house would be good for people like Rae and Shoto who've been very busy IRL so having OOC confirmation that the rest of the house gets that and is unbothered would likely reduce anxiety they may have lmao
Also they would have a lot to say about how challenging chats make conflict/personal drama RP because there are so many pot stirrers in that house
There’s an 💡
now i get to put a face to VoiceID behind GTA RP Murphy
And like why does he lowkey look exactly like Murphy 😂
@@rina.concepcion THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING!!!! besides the hair
Never really watch Esfand at all but I love seeing him on the pod and hearing his takes and the subjects he brings to debate. Im always very engaged in whatever it is he rambling on about.
PLEASE do a council of eight episode! would love to see their perspective on the council.
Excellent podcast. Great questions, great answers. Well balanced. Kudos Blau!
First episode I've watched and I really enjoyed this look at a side of RP that I don't usually follow.
I gotta say though.. hopefully future guests can read the room and learn to share the stage, maybe more direction from the hosts would be the answer.
When you directly asked Kylie a question at 1:17:50 and Nathankb didn't let her answer for a full minute, it was very frustrating to watch, especially with her being one of only 4 women that have been on this podcast.
if you gonna do a episode on the just chaotic and sbs would love to see Hogshund ,walnut,traumz,spaceboy and bannaduck (blade and bananalover are also a good shout)
Gotta get the fooze fam on this podcast. Burn, Fuslie, Chocobars, even Kkatamina lol. Would love to see it. maybe after the family reunion? keep em coming my guy
1:25:47 I think the development/progression bottleneck or lag was due to how bad the PD was to start.
Unless crims got some weird 1 in a 100 bad RNG situation during the getaway ( like invisible rocks, or floating books ) it was like a 90% success rate on getaways for the laundromat. So then the devs have to hold out on releasing the next heists and limiting how often they can be done to prevent PD burnout because everyone has progressed further than PD can handle
Hopefully now that the PD has started to maintain and increase its numbers and retention, the progress can kick back in. Koil keeps talking about a big update, please let it be more than just custom clothes.
Really wish he would check back in to the server and stop playing tarkov so he could witness issues first hand on both sides
love when esfand is on the pod
In my opinion the a great example of how Cop and Crim RP should be in the cells most of the time is what Aziz and Mr.K went through yesterday. It just makes so much sense RP wise that people can have a conversation about charges giving back and forth on why things should or shouldn't be charged and fined. The amount of times I have seen a cop say "put it on the docket" or "fight it in court later" is insane. It almost comes off as "I am done with this RP begone now" All that leads to is animosity between the groups. And no I am not saying its just Cops fault Crims also do things like the silent treatment for no reason and such, which in my opinion as well is really sad to see RP wise.
You must have missed the reddit post about it. Aziz messed up and CG gets what they want. At least that is all I read in that thread. It was like 300 comments and not more than 2 brain cells to be found.
@@i_am_the_stig5274 Yeah I don't go on reddit for reasons like that. I just listen to the streamers and their thoughts on matters. I had both streams open just listening to their opinions ooc and both knew and proved full well they are there for the RP. That is all that matters to me.
i caught a bit of it, also thought it was a good example of roleplay > ruleplay (or ‘lawplay’ in that case)
This is the most enlightening episode since 4.0.
I like that the admins are acting more in character. Like there were a lot of issues, both percieved and real, in the PD. All of a sudden Lenny hawk, and Declan Crane got hired then the PD changed 😂
simo would have been amazing for this podcast, he's so good at law in nopixel and he has had some of the most amazing slow burn rp aswell as normal everyday rp, i mean he was the reason for the 60 day statute of limitations, he gave so much rp to others aswell.
With this talk, I feel the consequences are still heavily skewed. If you want heavy consequences on crims, fine. But the consequences for cops should be just as heavy. If the crims bring the charges to court after serving the time and it gets dismissed, it should be fair that the cop get the time servered as well. If the crims should "know what they are getting into" shouldn't the cops also know what they are charging? If the charge is false there should be heavy consequences as well. If there isn't enough evidence, they shouldn't push for it. charge on what you know you can get. If you can't confirm anything, then wait for more evidence to flow in. They literally have 30 days to gather evidence. Not everything has to be charged on the spot.
the problem is they were punishing the fun rp cops not saurez or other try hards.
@@hartleyq10truuuuuuuuuee
At least they've let carmine and Bobby be the wardens so there's interesting prison content and it's not completely boring with nothing to do for streamers so it affects them more IC than OOC
47:42 "You should know what you're getting into before you're getting into it"
Yeah, you'd think so, but it's crucial for penalties to be fair and fit the server's rules. Just because you're in the game doesn't mean you should get stuck with anything that comes your way. When players get slammed with excessive penalties, it really kills the vibe and makes the whole experience feel less fun and fair
So you don't want consequences or something? I don't understand what you're trying to get at. Just because you think it's not fair doesn't mean it's not fair. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
I mainly watch civs/crims on the server but truthfully just hearing this podcast it was interest to hear “DOJ” takes on certain Q’s.
Loving these pods! Any chance Lozdog (Lilith Fulker), Skatebeard (Scotty Bard) and Aspecticor (Greg Letourneau) could be guests sometime? Keep up the great content regardless (:
Throw in bobby and carmine too
we definitely need a CG Podcast ASAP
The difference is for the crim the gun is ten k but for the cop it's chump change
Honest question, when was the last time nathankb played his crim char? I assume it was some point in 3.0
show me one clip where that guy has created some meaningful rp ever.
he said he did for the first 2 weeks in 4.0
@@PingoUTFG Was it his SBS fingle char?
@@hartleyq10What a cringe comment
Even if there was a question that couldn’t be solved there’s a question that you thought could be solved. The crims would probably be happy. you don’t need actual progression just to feel like you’re working towards something
Very interesting episode. And a good selection of guests. I'm glad you were able to bring both perspectives as a doj and crim character.
From a host to another host here's some feedback: try to practice splitting your questions and do them in separate sentences. I know that you want to present people the context and all they need to know but your sentences get too long and there's not a clear question or indication what you are asking.
Respect the dot - as I was told.
And don't worry it's trainable.
But overall good job!
love this feedback, ty ty
Haha 1:10:00 dedicated Civs to help a fund a group’s crims (aka Civ Gang
Idk why its weird to me but i really enjoy the civ rp but it sucks that they are tied down to one job sometimes. When i watch Crim rp i feel like i am just watching GTA online with extra steps ? Eh imo
How is Nathan/Crane going to say he doesnt play his crim because he doesnt want to grind when he's the one making all the laws that force you to grind to make money?
First of all the laws dont force you to grind money, most of that comes from server rules.
Second of all Crane isnt just making laws himself, the original laws came from a lot of discussion and all new charges/laws are the council of 8. Not just crane
Third of all who the fucks wants to grind, don't blame him for not wanting to play crim
@@m1LKbagzzit makes 0 sense for grinding to exist at all. Ofc it makes some sorta sense for civs to grind because that’s what civs do. But they shouldn’t be able or be forced to grind the entire day to feel like that’s what they need to do to progress. And crims grinding makes literally zero sense. Crime is meant to be high risk high reward. You can literally grind weed or moonshine for 12 hours and make less money than a g6 driver makes in 6. And if you get caught grinding as crim you lose an entire days progress. And let’s not forget a “heist” that takes 6 people to complete pays less to each person than a hunter can make in 30 minutes. And it takes 3 days worth of buttcoin mining to be able to even complete. Crim is insanely broken. No one would complain about big fines and times for crimes if it wasn’t literally entire days worth of grinding being lost to a single fine. You shouldn’t be fined 10x as much money for doing a heist than u even make for completing the heist. 20k heists split amongst 6 ppl is 3000$ each. If you get arrested for doing it, and caught with a gun, just the gun charge alone is over 10000$ in fines. Not counting the fines for robbing it. Crime is pointless, and without changes soon you’re gonna lose most crims. If even CG leaves, literally 90% of all cop interactions are gonna be traffic stops and that’s it. Just look at when K was in prison, the entire 2 days he was in there cops were doing literally nothing all day, and they were crying for hours about not being allowed to enter prison and start arresting people, just so they can finally have interesting interactions and RP. You’ve already driven XQC away, if you drive rest of CG away too you’ll lost half of all viewers and half of all cop chases.
I think it’s different when you consider that (1) he has a full time job and (2) his MAIN character crane has so much behind the scenes work to do managing the DOJ, also (3) he has a cop secondary character
so given all that, trying to fit in a crim character is tricky. also pretty sure they don’t make the laws that “force people to grind”, if anything in-game legislation is restricting grinding
@@RoleplayPodcast +1 whoever runs this channel.
@@RoleplayPodcastnathankb has a FT job currently that isn’t NoPixel? Did I miss him mention that? I heard him say he used to get off work and play NP, etc
The Podcast should have the guys who came from Wild RP on that could be an interesting podcast!
This podcast can only be fruitful if you invite Crims, without that there is no sense. Cause The Civs, PD, DOJ all have one force acting against them. And it is the Crims. And I know that CG don't feel comfortable talking in a podcast. But I think Shotz, Silent, SwizzMB, would be open to talk. Cause You cannot understand the problem other side tackles to do the crime. And the risk they take and the frustration occurs due to it.
Most of the hard crims either retire to be crims or banned. I expected Whippy to talk but He is not a leader. He is a hothead (in charecter)
I really hope Kebun agrees.
we had Silent on the last episode, but overall I agree.
also a lot of topics aren’t just “cops vs crims”. we did one episode of that which I admit was not balanced with perspectives. some episodes are “noobs of nopixel” or even an “ERP” episode ya know
@@RoleplayPodcast Sure, lots of topics are not cop v crim. But it is the biggest driving force in the server.
@@aman_chandravanshiDepends who you watch
I think veteran rpers and variety streamers in rp would be nice
We need a CG podcast
@@retorun5100dumb take, Mr.k doesn’t hate cops, he had a great interaction with aziz. You can find the clip all over.
It would also be nice to have sykkuno, xqc, buddha, ramee on the podcast
Ramee doesn't want anything to do with this podcast. He has said it multiple times. This is just a drama podcast and he isn't wanting to be involved
@@i_am_the_stig5274Bro ive watched every single one of these and havent seen any drama? I havent seen Ramee say this but if he did i think thats more on his perception than anything. Blau seems to be the most level headed guy when it comes to all sides and Saab is one of there oldest friends when it comes to roleplay, why would he be against coming on to talk with them?
so in what way does this podcast come off as dramatic to you? have there been any controversies due to the podcast?@@i_am_the_stig5274
@@i_am_the_stig5274if you feel we’re skipping too much into drama, lmk how you think we can improve. I think it can be tricky trying to balance not just “fluff” but more serious topics without inviting drama.
biggest thing is we’ve tried to very carefully monitor how anyone speaks about other rp-ers not there, and only to do so respectfully
@@RoleplayPodcast I mean K already said no once OG CG viewers all know why but i agree Blau and this channel are doing a good job being neutral as possible i feel like.
Love it! Can you invite LOZDOG (Lilith Fulker) and Skatebeard (Scotty Bard) to this awesome podcast please 😊
This podcast deserves way more views. Definitely helps give some insight on how things work and how people other than your favorite crim streamer view different situations.
Dude yes. We need the clippers to go hard on this like they do everything else. Not just the stuff they clip in a way that looks negative
1 sided propaganda Podcast. The crim pov & their main problems r never brought up. Main crim characters from CG r the onces facing real consequence of the absurd Admins , Devs & Council
@@user-erick007 Bro did you even listen to the whole thing?
Also I'm not talking about just this episode. There are different episodes with different people's opinions. The point is to get an overall picture from everyone's perspective
@@AIIu_ There is no CG & most of the criminals that they brought were criminals in 3.0, they are grinding in 4.0. They don't even do crimes in 4.0. Only real criminal Blau brought was Dundee/Whippy & he is basically a sbs crim character like 4head. He doesn't care about progression or earning money. They basically do sbs crimes & always have nearly 0 in their banks
1 there's creating charges but making them stackable which is also terrible in design, when stacking is frowned upon and has been an issue on no pixel since the dawn of day i get they say its but Robbing a cop what are you robbing a cop for if its not for his items inc GUN so the charge for the gun should be where someone is holding gun without cops prior knowing who stole it(its whats the cops can prove in court) 2 Nathans take on Crim, why hes not playing crim, and then makes things worse. is an awful Hot Take 3. any business attempt in 4.0 via RP has been shot down by the council, because they don't go with it. 4. Esfand talking about Clown games oh guess what happened to that!!!! again RP denial 5. the take on cop lives over accessories, is NVL coming from DOJ, I understand impact matters thats flowing with the RP, but NVL is a rule so the charge should also match this 6. that concept of PD choice, should have been always a thing whenever pressing for charges, Ruth failed this Cornwood failed this process of RP 7. lawyers who take on cases and decide a new career should pass on there cases to lawyers who want to be a lawyer in the server.
Circle Jerk Podcast
some viewers really want nopixel to be a crim server and devolve into gta online. nothing but chain robberies and violence with no consequences. and when the nopixel burns down communities will just move to the next server.
@@rjacks3284 Just like CG moved to Prodigy in 3.0
It was obviously because of criminals & not cops
@@rjacks3284 The reason chain robberies happen is because there's literally nothing for a crim that doesn't want to work a 9-5 to do. You would think with the amount of time and money the owners and devs have made over the years they would be able to figure out how to do this a little better
@@tbone8644 Don't you think asking people to revolutionize the concept of economics is a bit of a tall order?
"reading the room" makes me think of a few cops who can't read the room in nopixel
when we getting a cg member on the podcast
Prolly never.
All of them seem to avoid it because they are requested to talk about cops v crims.
CG don’t join these podcasts because it ruins with storylines and revealed Rp plus Drama
Kebun said he was asked but declined ...
Kebun doesn't want to talk about RP outside of RP lol
Everyone asking for more crimes but I just want the spicy counsel episode. That's the real therapy session.
Nathan's take on the crims reward is content thus viewers ect is the worst take out of all of this. Completely discrediting the streamers/content creators themselves. As if those creators don't drive viewership on their own. That being said and him being in the position of power he is in, I hope he is open minded and sees the fault in his thinking. (This was in regards to the "risk" being justified).
Yeah it comes across as bitter (especially given there's what? 2 crims on the server who averaged more viewers than Esfand for 4.0 - aka X and Kebun, meanwhile I know Taco from CG has like sub 500 viewers most of the time) like he's holding being a big streamer against some particular crim players.
@@Chriswastaken123I wouldn't call Taco a big streamer in any sense.
This podcast always bias towards cops/laws. No wonder CG don't want to get on this 😂
Legal stuff is some of the best content
We need to run this one back, I feel like a lot was left on the table as far as topics.
Why one sided talks most of episodes make both crims aswell as cops sit n let them both counter talk
They did a crims v cops episode
NathanKB and KylieBitkin are 2 people on the server that think they're smarter than they really are.
Rude
Do a CG episode I want to see their SBS live on here lol
This whole podcast was a circle jerk lol. Kebun actually called this before the last one. "No one is going to change their perspectives, they are set in their ways. I'm not wasting my time on that podcast."
That kinda goes both ways if you refuse to take part in the conversation, no?
@@Moofmoof 1. This has been going from 3.0 2. it doesnt take a 3 hours podcast to figure out why people are upset, you can just talk to them in rp (mr k pardon as example) 3. crane already said he ooc watches crim streams, thats why anything cg discovers or benefits from, gets nerfed day after especially against cops or judges.4. lets be real, you wont change minds of admin players (cops, council) by non admin players (crims) unless there is a higher power like koil and this was the case from 3.0 where cops would go out of the book when francis is not around.
its till a bad way to implement the law on a server but they will see it in the future , its gives good RP for know but it fucks offer a lot of RP steamers because there are bad laws
1:11:20 Damn, Crane is actually delusional if he thinks Kebun is only pulling 20k viewers because he's the "only" "mob boss" in the server.
The real reason he pulls those numbers is because hes entertaining and you are not. He has always pulled those numbers, regardless of the server state.
don’t think he meant it that way. we even talked about how kebun made incredible content with K Town for his prison sentence. NathanKB knows Kebun is a content machine regardless of the circumstances
Look, I like CG - but some of you CG stans need to get a grip. It’s always insults against other RPers from you guys. Truly the worst type of viewers.
I’d love to see a podcast with Eve and Ash. They’re both civs that deal with business stuff but also have connections to crim stuff
Theres an 💡
Guys this might be a hot take but just hear me out, saltines are kinda salty
This is an underrated channel. W podcast. W blau
I'm gonna be honest, it was hard to listen to the podcast because of the guy playing Crane. So fucking arrogant and annoying. Everyone besides him, great content and a pleasure to get to know their perspective
1:11:20 holyyyyy the ooc jealousy. LK is LK because he's the most entertaining roleplayer of all time. Not because of w/e the f crane just said
I mean it’s pretty obvious if you see his irl tweets, as well as listening to him when he’s playing other games with his cg hating cop main friends.
look at all his legislation that he puts through. it is almost a weekly nerf of something CG is doing. its hilarious to hear somebody so boring and unimaginative speak about lordkebun like that. this guy has no clue what it takes to get 20k viewers on nopixel. if nopixel was actually whitelisted due to your rp ability then nathankb wouldn't even make it on the server.
Right, kebun has always pulled those viewers even when there were gangs everywhere. Crane actually sounds delusional here.
@@willo1345 and you wonder why that guy is creating game play that directly affects kebun or cg negatively. actually you don't wonder the jealousy that he said that was really something
This Blau guy is a real airhead. Is this the same guy that pretended to be a developer when he was just a literal janitor at some games company??? No way lol...
Jeez this guy is cringe. "I love isaac asimov" he said that. I am in a cringe induced shudder.
This crane guy sucks
1:28:35 Saab says they should change fines/time as thing develop... but when gruppe 6 and sani drivers were getting robbed multiple times per hour NOTHING changed. But if 3 cops get robbed over a 2 day span things changed INSTANTLY. In THOERY, yes he is right but in practice they are completely wrong.
They literally made a new charge for robbing gruppe 6 so you are wrong
also it took them like 3 weeks to change the PD gun charge not "INSTANTLY" but okay
@@m1LKbagzzhe is in his own timeline
No criminal character in Podcast to counter their point. Blaus Podcast is basically 1 sided propaganda without any proper opposition. Bring K or Ramee to counter their points
I think he wanted to but Ramee and K didn't wanna be apart of it because they know it would cause a bunch of drama clips and turn it into a crim vs cop hate thing and nothing will be changed in the end n e ways
Mr K yes, ramee no. Ramee has a hard time expressing himself correctly and appears really aggro a lot of time
@@joebk44 True. Ramee looses every argument somehow, despite being right
@@joebk44how about neither. both k and ramee don’t want to be apart of this because they will just be used for views and drama. nothing will change if either of them express their opinions
@@killzzzz_ lil tuggz i think would be great, he has cop and crim character
Lets be real no actual real crim perspectiv was there 😂 even silent on the last one was not pushing back on shit, they need Ramee or LK to shake this shit up ngl but at least Blau is trying and give everybody an invite. LK would have explain Nathan one thing or two about RP and the crim side 😂
Yeah it seems neither want to. If they decline there isn't much you can do. In general I think if there's two sides to something and one side just refuses to give their side of the story, you can't be mad when people paint their own narrative (whether it's intentional or not)
Good