Is Playing a Crim in NoPixel 4.0 Worth It? - Roleplay Podcast #12
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
- Loouis, 4Head, and Client, representing the Manor, Chang Gang (CG), and the Besties talk about fake gang roleplay and what it's like to RP as a crim in NoPixel 4.0. Ssaab and Blau
Guests on the show:
Louuis / louuis
4head / 4head
Ssaab / ssaab
Client / client
Blau / blau
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0:00:00 Introductions
0:04:00 Crime in 4.0
0:06:00 Robbing People, Fun RP?
0:09:00 Interactions Between Crim and Cop
0:14:30 Does the Time fit the Crime
0:20:20 Longest Sentence you've served
0:28:00 Crime Doesn't Pay, Just do G6
0:33:35 Cops and Robbers VS Cops and Grinders
0:35:05 G6 Heists
0:46:00 Fail RP and Lack of Fear
0:49:00 Getting Sim Robbed
0:53:52 Pitting and Chase Dynamics
1:03:00 What would it take to stop swaps?
1:15:35 Going back for the bois?
1:19:30 Spike Usage for the PD
1:25:20 The Rule of 6
1:33:00 The Future for Crims
1:37:10 Trashbag Heist
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Honestly, this is probably the most Constructive single podcast on GTA RP Ive seen. Imagine if these OOC talks actually happen weekly between different crims, different cops, and some civ job people. Both sides brought up really good points and actually talked out solutions to problems.
The drama between cops and crims wouldn't happen at all
The only point I felt the crims struggled to convey is the very high risk they run for very small reward. Take jewlery runs. You're forced to go there with a gun, guns are expensive and somewhat rare, so usually they are fairly hot. It automatically triggers a massive PD response because shots fired and gta. You make maybe 30k, but risk 300 months and a 40-50k fine (like what happened to Ramee the other day). That's why it looks like the crims are trying way to hard, given the call, but in essence they have to because of the massive consequences.
@@flatnicable yeah and then cops will get frustrated with guys trying to save the guy with the gun on him, but what is their choice there? Lose a rare gun plus more money than any crim job is worth or risk getting batoned for essentially a slap on the wrist if it fails. The jewelry runs are way too hot and I'm glad they moved away from those being required for petty crimes like roof running.
They literally did this in 2.0 during the weekly pd training days. There was a meeting at the start where Crim mains and Cop mains got to talk through things and both had a chance to explain their side.
Sadly this doesn’t happen anymore
I really miss the house robberies from 3.0. Robbing the npc houses was a great way for solo and minor crims to get a little money and the rp with the cops from them was great.
They need a way to separate the player houses from the house robbery cue and have some npc houses furnished and robbable.
easily one of my favs. they were so cinematic, some of my fav moments were houses
That's just roof robberies currently no?
@@ktothec99999people need actual skills for that 😂
And it makes sense with all the new furniture stuff
I feel like louu didn't really voice his opinions very much on this pod and i know he has decent takes on a lot of this stuff. Id like to see him discuss similar things somewhere hes a little more comfortable and less nervous to speak/interrupt. Client did well making sure he was heard. I'd love to see that from both louu and 4head as well.
he probally just didn't want to speak over people
Need a civilian "HQ" app, so the jobs actually have cooldown etc, and they can work up to it, same as crims on their jobs, so its actually a major loss if they get robbed, it creates autonomous heists not just NPC stuff.
They have that, used exactly as you described. The Jobs Center app lists the jobs for civs, each with their own rep system. And with G6 the best jobs, for example the $2500 per person Tier 3 Vault Run, are on a 3 hour cooldown, which limits the person to 3 runs max per tsunami. We watched Sykkuno, who plays Yuno on RP, grind G6 all day every day for about 3 weeks just to earn the right to run Tier 3 jobs. So it is roughly the same on both sides.
If they add the black market car rental. It should be you rent it for anywhere between 1 hour and 4 hours with varied cost without it being flagged and work like a vin scratch but there would be a countdown and once it hits zero a stolen car ping goes off and a tracker pops up for cops so it makes the crim want to ditch the car. Can also setup something for a higher pay tow truck, where they get a job to pickup the car and it pays them like 2k.
And maybe include scratched cop vehicles too
Yeah the auto flagged stolen local cars is so unnecessary. I've seen cops use that to also find crims they can't even see because they know you're on a bike in a bush nearby because it flags the vehicle being in the area. That and crims being chased like it's a murder charge over fleeing a traffic stop that only happened from a cop driving past the stolen car before the crims even committed another crime just kind of stalls the RP out.
good to see the Mandem/Manor boys to get their voices out! always wanted to know/hear from them! its easy to get sidelined when crim arc has been tough generally
4head on a podcast W
Ming and Jack next 👀
Ming doesn’t talk.
I LOVE the idea Saab 4head and Client came up with for a cool G6 update. It creats RP, conflict, an exciting update for G6ers and Crims.
I agree with Blau's point about 1 year sentences primarily because I view nopixel as a TV show kind of like Southpark, every day is like a new episode and consequences usually don't carry over through episodes unless the story calls for it.
when will spaceboy come to podcast?
That G6 big job heist is awesome, And clients Idea of G6 actually rping as security is actually valid, I hope they devs go through with some of the ideas here.
Civ jobs when failed for whatever reason should've repercussions.
I mainly watch civs and beside running from point A to Point B and dropping items the only content they got is SBS, so that idea of taking jobs seriously will make a lot of interactions happen and civs will actually last and not quit or just join gangs.
It would good to have a full on womens podcast female characters of the nopixel their experience everything
Sounds painful
I think that Saab asking why the different things don't happen like heisting Tier 3's, overlooking the speed at which the cops would get calls and the severity of the response they would start having to go through.
I really like the idea of 4 people tier 3 g6 having guns and radio to be more secure. Like maybe the guns wouldn’t have actually bullets but metal bullet to where it’s scares the robbers a bit. It would’ve been nice if he had syk on here as well, bro really made g6 rangers protecting g6 workers! And he was spreading that around for a bit and they didn’t get robbed as much! Also like the idea of tier 3 chase. They did that when g6 workers got a raise. Like they had someone at the wheels at all time and if someone came by they would just drive off.
Allsoo to go off on the scuff of the game mechanics, peanut said they would get stuck under the car. I think it’s the part of where the police has to play it off so it won’t be awkward(which gives them a change to get back up) like say put your hands up. Or say you’re under arrest Blah blah blah. And if they run off then there goes that chase again.
I’ve been loving different groups talks. Give such a big insight.
Cops should see swap and bike metas as an indication of the current crim car meta. Plenty of crims will attempt to drive out of a chase if they think its possible. If the cars suck too much they will do swaps.
Exactly. When you start seeing the really skilled drivers on NP doing swaps, it means the balance is way off for normal crims.
@@sinez999yup. Even the talented drivers are instantly communicating they're in a chase and need a block or swap setup. Especially when the cars were all manual and easily boxed because reversing from 5th gear after a "pit" takes longer than it takes a secondary to roll in behind the car
Honestly feel like there needs to be better tactics or mechanics for using spikes. Like some crazy chopper deployed spike-launcher or something. Especially after 3+ swaps.
Would love to see the clowns on here! Would love to see saab and them talking
CG vs Police Podcast feat. Ramee, K, Esfand, Saab…. Need
its not gonna happen k and ramme dont do that shit for a reason
only toxic shit is gonna happen from that
They dont wanna do that because nothing’s gonna change either way. They always do podcast shit long way before and until now its the same thing.
Would love to hear it. Even if nothing would change from it.
I would love to see the Civ point of view on this.
We need a gworls of los santos episode
i feel like the first 2 tiers of g6 should get pay raise if the tier 3 is limited to who can do them.
Need Ramee and K on the podcast, but I know they've said that they likely wouldn't do it because they have such strong opinions on stuff about the server.
It'd be hard for them to go on there and be entirely honest because they both feel like there's a lot that needs to be fixed on the server. Even Client (who rolls with K and Ramee in-game) said a LOT of stuff, and I'm sure he still tried not to say too much since he doesn't want to stir up too much.
I feel like the best case scenario would be to maybe have a day where it's only the four people of: Blau, Ssaab, Ramee, and Kebun and no one else. Even then, I feel like Ramee and K would still feel like they have to tone down some of their opinions, which is unfortunate.
Being a criminal on Nopixel definitely isn’t “worth it” but then it is ….for some people. Many people just flat out can’t be great at crim rp because it really can be creativity draining. In that sense the content comes to Cop streamers far far more easily but within those boundaries cop roleplay can be more restricting in the kinds of things they can do because they are in that DM/GM role that can be very powerful in terms of effect on server and players.
None of this to say people shouldn’t try to be either they absolutely should and honestly the community needs to be more welcoming to people trying who maybe don’t have experience with these kinds of things.
For Saab’s idea I think a gun unlock for civ’s would be great I think having it have like a 5 round magazine without an ability to reload would be better. Because then 1 you don’t have the weird breaks after 1 day thing but 2 it also can’t be taken advantage of because you physically cannot get more ammo. And if it’s like a decent shotgun it’s even better. It would be a great way to introduce better guns into the server without needing to fully unlock stuff.
Things like not caring about getting robbed is pretty infuriating because getting robbed and going right back to working another job will never not be strange to me. Like If I get robbed I’m driving out of my way to avoid that place.
What I don’t really understand is equipment/cars being better than criminal’s. It just makes no sense to me because in the same way good criminals can and should get away and bad criminals should get caught good police should be feared and not as skilled ones shouldn’t be as much. When the force has a larger presence and ability to always have a larger presence it just doesn’t make sense to have them be so far off in terms of power level. That much of a power level difference where if you put a great crim driver in a pd car it’s nearly impossible to get away from it’s kind of a root cause of the meta shifts in getting away.
Groups like The Besties and CG have definitely held back on shooting cops out of frustration when they have had the opportunity because of the state pd has been in but if the same mistakes by the same officers keep happening it will lead to that unfortunately
Thanks Blau!! These are two criminals that are so scared of losing prio or getting banned, they wouldn’t even dream about critiquing PD or the server in public. (Let alone to an admins face.)
I think the only thing I have a problem with would be getting rid of rule of 6 for PvP, it would make fighting a gang with 20+ people unfair as shit because they’d just zerg you to death
"What would it take to stop swaps?" - Hard limits on cop chase #'s. As in none of this swapping in and out with parallels. Straight up. 4 cars per chase no more. 2/3 for the conga line primary to tertiary, and 1 parallel if they decided to run 2 on the conga line and 2 parallel then that's a field captain/searg's call. Then maybe crims will stop swapping.
Cops will not do this especially when they have a (paltry) financial incentive
To be honest in the past month, as compared to the first 3 months, they made swaps a whole hell of a lot more difficult with the decision to let the stun guns fly free. People be dropping out the car left and right in a lot of the chases I see.
Cops treat units as interchangeable too. So you have 4 units. One crashes out? They just get a new 4th unit. Then the crashed out cop repairs and joins back in and is a 5th unit. Oh you escaped the cops? Random unrelated cops on the next corner sees you, starts chasing and calls it in. The old 5 units join and now you have 6 units.
This is not possible. How can you expect a max of 4 units responding to CG having a stolen car? That's a 6 unit minimum. Warrant for evading? That's an automatic full PD force on scene.
Now, you might think "Oh, officer involved shooting, those 77s are coming for scene control and medic". Wrong. They need those other units to check their turbos while the shot guy bleeds out.
Plus who is going to place spikes in triangles around 95s with only 4 units?
4head is honestly a goat 🐐 ❤❤❤
Civ jobs rep progression should give you access to new task like mini games or other roles and reduce their pay. Make crims have higher pay but higher risk jobs. Civs have 3 collect and drop off simulators that they grind for 8 hours a day which offers no content so just give them more content for less pay. Crims get paid less than civs for high risk so just give them more money for more risk.
Everyone should be able to make money but at the end of the day the most skilled at jobs should always get more reward. No one would want to be better at something with no reward and right now crime doesnt pay and civ jobs have no eay to be better (skillwise)
Should be able to back up your sim on the home computer. Also as far as swaps is concerned the police should get an vehicle shutdown device once.
3:40 😂 Who’s face reveal is this at the bottom right??!! Peanuts or 4Heads?? Hahaha
It's Louis discord profile pic
Basically high risk should be high reward.
Bru Blau said that take because hes not the one who do grinding so they can do the heist , thou i get what blau said but its just unfair for other who do the hard part just to do the heist
I agree with the fact that g6 should be a big deal. G6 should be like a reverse bank robbery. G6 go to a location, wait 5+ minutes to load but crims can hack the location to find out where the truck is. Then crims can risk pulling up on the truck at the location or somewhere in transit. Or they can make it so crims gave to hack the g6 truck to get the content
4head is so undderrated a crim genius
In regards to if crime paid more everyone would do crime...Then why do people do Grimes, Snr buns, or any non G6 civ job?
1:03:02 Instead of having EVERY available cop chasing one car into a pit fiesta...set up barricades around likely routes that if crims just YOLO into them, they die. LSS...cops need to work smarter not harder. These are strats RL police forces would do, meanwhile NP cops just "follow the leader/chase until it goes on too long/then pit everything into oblivion as if there were no civilians around".
I do agree with you but if you see how some cops use spikes, I bet some cops would set up a barrier in front of cars going 100mph when it's 10 feet away. 😂😂😂 It's crazy how spikes are instantly set up
Im gonna be honest with you its not that intense dropping off money irl in the big trucks lol you also have to wear a dorky fit.....😔
Also g6 is not grindy but grimes and sani is lol but that's expected because g6 is for people who can stay clean which is hard
You ever see the video of the 2 guys in a money truck where another vehicle starts shooting at them, the driver hands the passenger a rifle and starts evading? I think it was in Africa or something, but sometimes bank trucks can be wild IRL.
I mean true g6 rn its more like funn hang out everyone has fun time no offence but like rangers and yuno and all that squad and its not like oh its scary job more like hey this is a unicorn funn job like Sani is more scary than g6 for example
Need sykkuno on this podcast to talk about civ vs crim. How he worked his ass off every 3 hours for 10 straight streams and offline every 3 hours just to do 6g to get the most expensive cars in the city.
Yeah, that'd be "intresting" 😂😂
I don't know anyone I'll wait till they have Lang and the crew
we need Zaceed/BigSkenger to join for a podcast hes funny asf
do crime on 4.0 not worth😂
Can yall get lordkebun?
He doesn't want to do it
Kevin Ramee Vinny Garrett etc have been this vocie for years and have said all these things before sadly because of past perceptions no one listens and people just call them sore losers. Instead of hearing the value in their words. It's good that you get to hear these things from others too that are saying the same things.
who?
He knows it will fall on deaf ears. This stuff is nice in theory, but I've watched NP for 5+ years and two things are constant...1) This is a content server. 2) FOR THE MOST PART...bad players and bad RPer's play cop for the free prio, so in order to not make the server so one sided, NP gives all the poor cop players everything they need, for virtually free, and buff everything they have, to compensate their poor performance ability. You can be a cop fan and hate on this take, but it doesn't take away from the fact it is 100% true.
Maybe your cop streamer is the exception (Ssaab, Esfand, SgtApollo, CazeyTV, RemdogG, etc...) but a LOT of them are either bad at mechanics or bad at RP. Very few are good at both, and that's what the server needs for the PD imo.
Guy has better things to do.
🔥 HOT 🔥 Take: The devs and admins of nopixel 4.0 have hit the mark perfectly with balancing the number and size of the carrots they dangle out in front of each new player, spreading out the player base in the most ideal way for RP interactions across the city. Civilian by all rights should be the absolute MOST boring role to play in a game like this, and yet we have so many RPers opting into it, and even going so far as to be jealous of the people that get to run those boring jobs at times. That is immersion. That is bringing the IRL into the RP. That is the mark of a job well done.
my point about “crims get paid in content” is kinda related to this. if it actually paid more, you have to giga increase the fines/times, otherwise EVERYONE would want to do crim rp
@@RoleplayPodcast ya it was a good point. Ssaab countered it by saying "what if they don't stream?" However I think regardless of whether a person is playing for themselves or for others- they all want fun content where possible. The content, the pay, the [non-ERP] relationships, are all the carrots the devs have at their disposal to balance out the role play across Los Santos.
it's not the spam pit it's the clear lack of care for life as they say there is pitting and then there is ramming them into a wall and flipping them that's the problem
yeah it's the clear distinction between pits and rams that NP cops just don't care about that just gets so cringe after it happens 10 times
They're SUPPOSED to only begin doing it once the one fleeing has already begun endangering innocent lives, in that way the justification is they are minimizing the threat to civilians by attempting to end the pursuit. That's what they're SUPPOSED to do. 😅
@@elementneon I’ve seen many times they will ram into people and pin them against a wall when it was not justified yet for example yesterday with fan fan
@@elementneon Mr K got chased yesterday for a stolen car. They pit him into a wall and spiked within the first 30 seconds.
we’ll talk about this in the chase episode, but… i feel like it’s always gonna be more gnarly than IRL. it’s GTA, it’s just how the physics work