Flight of Deities and Rebirth of Temples | Meenakshi Jain |
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- Meenakshi Jain's book, Flight of Deities and Rebirth of Temples - Episodes from Indian History examines the medieval response to temple destruction and image desecration. While temples were destroyed on a considerable scale, also noteworthy were the repeated endeavours to reconstruct them. In each instance of rebirth, the temple retained its original name, even though there was a visible downsizing in its scale and grandeur. The Keshava temple at Mathura, the Vishwanath temple at Kashi, the Somnath temple in Saurashtra, the Rama mandir at Ayodhya were among the shrines continually restored, well after Hindus had lost all semblance of political power. The Bindu Madhava, the most important Vishnu temple in Varanasi, was demolished in 1669 and a mosque constructed in its place. The temple now bearing the name Bindu Madhava is a modest structure in the shadow of the mosque, but continues the traditions associated with the site. Intriguingly, mosques built on temple sites often retained the sacred names - Bijamandal mosque, Lat masjid, Atala masjid, Gyanvapi mosque, and not to forget, masjid-i- janamsthan.
Equally worthy of study was the fate of images enshrined in temples. Many were swiftly removed by anxious devotees, many more were hurriedly buried; some remained on the move for decades, till such time they could be escorted back to their abodes. In several cases, images were damaged in flight. Countless images were lost, as their places of burial were forgotten over time. That necessitated the consecration of new images in more peaceable circumstances. So there were temples of the tenth-eleventh centuries, which housed images instated in the sixteenth. In situations where neither temple nor image could be safeguarded, the memory endured, and a shrine was recreated after an interval of several centuries.
ABOUT THE SPEAKER:
Dr Meenakshi Jain is an Indian political scientist and historian. A scholar on relations between caste and politics with specialization in cultural studies,[1] she is Senior Fellow at Nehru Memorial Museum and Library. She is a prolific writer/scholar and has authored 8 books and several articles, revealing the least known parts of Indian history.
Some of her works include Congress Party, 1967-77: Role of Caste in Indian Politics, Rama and Ayodhya , Sati: Evangelicals, Baptist Missionaries, and the Changing Colonial Discourse, The Battle for Rama: Case of the Temple at Ayodhya , "Flight of Deities and Rebirth of Temples:
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SUGGESTED READINGS:
Flight of Deities and Rebirth of Temples - Episodes from Indian History by Meenakshi Jain
Hindu Temples: What Happened to Them (Vol. 1 & 2), by Sita Ram Goel
TOPICS COVERED
0:00 Purpose of the book, Flight of Deities and Rebirth of Temples - Episodes from Indian History
1:33 Icononoclasm began in Mecca in the 7th century.
5:58 Sustained, deliberate, brutal assault on sacred Indian heritage & sites.
7:12 1st sustained case of iconoclasm was in Multan
9:04 Al Baruni
13:52 Leftist that dieties were broken even by Hindu kings before the Mughals
16:20 Image appropriation vs Image destruction
23:26 Ayodhya was referred to as ‘janmsthan’ even in Persian records
29:07 Flight of Deities and Shrinathji
41:56 Even now, the false History books have not been changed
44:50 Kanchipuram Temple, Shakya rulers, and temple inscription
50:20 Preventing distortion of history
55:32 ‘Islamic Art’ was present in India before the coming of Islam
56:03 Destruction of the temples in Delhi
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In Kashmir every house of Hindus had a small room on first floor, just at the top of main entrance door called " hangkuth" hang means forehead & Kuth means room or "Thakur kuth" .When the Hindus in were banned for performing pujas outside, during Muslim rule, Hindus devised the method of worshipping the deities at their home to avoid the atrocities of Muslim officers. There were thousands of costly Murti's left behind in 1990, were taken & sold by the plunders!
In Bengal also, we have a culture of having a room dedicated for worshiping
Pranam and thxs.
They hv been plundering Hindus ever since they set foot on the subcontinent. What u r talking abt is another repeatation of the same process by these barbarians.
I don't understand, what did the rest Hindus do when Muslims oppressed and tormented Hindus in Kashmir?😠
@@anirbansarker9578 This is story of every Hindu ancestors, somehow they kept their faith intact & didn't allow to become Bharat another Iran during the atrocious Muslim rule !
Kedarnath Temple of Uttarakhand is the only ancient surviving temple of North India, constructed around 1020 AD by Shankaracharya ji and Katryuri kingdom. Kedarnath Temple miraculously got Buried under snow from 14th century to 18th century for 400 years.
Jai Baba Kedar
Har Har Mahadev
It's converted jain temple
Shankaracharya is babur of jainism who convert 1000 of jain temple to hindu
It made me cry a lot... How devoted our ancestors were!!
same ..when i first discovered this stuff.
This discussion is an eye opener to me to learn the way mughals tried to destroy the our precious heritage and temples. Still, I presume that Hinduism cannot be destroyed fully
JAI shree RAM 🙏🙏
It can actually,
Search utube for j sai Deepak
It's happening as we speak
We just don't see it ,
hinduism is almost destroyed in kerala, in the name of temples we have controled business going on in temples , run by government not by hindu practioners
@@gam3827 yes.
I was shocked when I saw a vlog video by a foreigner who was visiting kerala and in his video of kochin, I could see so many girls with head scarves.
When the vloger asked the local people their names, I was alarmed to notice that almost 4 out of 6 were Christian names!
Whatever is happening there is happening very fast and we are being lied to about the numbers.
34:04 I can't believe it... I have visited Shri Nath ji at Nathdwara in 2012 and it is one of the most memorable time of my life.
I was 11 years old and we went to rajasthan cuz our ancestors are from there and it's a common practice in marwadi families to visit Rajasthan once in their lifetime and I remember how we reached in the evening in nathdwara and the beautiful gateway and the lights and the shops seeking elegant murtis of the lord and beautiful artifacts and clothes for the gods...we took darshan of the lord from far away cuz it was late and the doors had been closed to the main temple inside the area but it was a divine experience..I could feel the lord's presence and something was there..its magical..I will never forget that night and I feel so privileged that I got to be in the premises of the temple of shri nath ji...you can imagine how beautiful and powerful the experience must have been for an 11 year old girl to remember till now.
Today I got to know the backstory of the temple's existence, all thanks to you Meenakshi Ma'am.
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Jai Shri Krishna.
Thank you Ma for your time and efforts and I have come to know a few things about our religion and history where temples were mostly destroyed by the Mughals and not so much by the Westerners.
Har Har Mahadev 🙏🏻🕉️🙏🏻
Indians would do welll to recognize that these issues started long before Mecca.
Dr Meenakshi ji 🙏. Wonderful Discourse so interesting and informative. Bravo our ancestors. They have undergone terrible pains to protect our heritage.
JAI shree RAM 🙏🙏
A superb talk . So refreshing . Thank you Madam !
Meenakshi ji is like a living treasure of India as they have in Japan
Inspirational..huge respect to Meenakshi ji
Madam, A fantastic crystal clear explanation of historical facts. I think you can start a channel to educate our people about true and correct history of our great culture at this time when many many people even without basic knowledge of history sit in discussions on many channels spreading completely falsehood. Thank you
Excellent work, new knowledge for most Indians, the history which was kept hidden from all of us.
Ancients will rise, gods will come, adharmis will die, dharma will flourish 🚩
Rituals preserve Dharma, so start practicing them
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This is such an important talk. Highly recommend it. Already bought a few of her books. Will add Flight of Deities to the list.
Thank you very much for all the information !🙏
History is very important !!😊
Jai Sri Ram
Painstakingly you have painted a picture of our heritage and history. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
It will great to know from Dr Meenakshi ji about the flight of the Murthy of Kamakshi Amma to Tanjore from Kanchi
What a wonderful talk. Only if is she wrote our history, how much better we would have been and so proud
I'm deeply disturbed knowing these facts 😢
Meenaksi Jain Ji, you are doing awesome
Please keep in up, we need to know more
Thank you so much for enlightening us by ur wonderful lecture. Hope to listen to more of you.
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Image appropriation and desiccation is different…… thanks to prof Meenakshi and sangam talk for explaining in detail.
Good morning 🌻🙏🏼🙏🏼
madam your work is so very precious pious and of utmost importance that it has helped correcting the history set forth and compelled imposed upon us thru text books .the future and current gneration is blessd to have you .🙌🏻🙏🏻
we need a place for dharmic discourses in the form of harikatha, dramas leelas, music bhajan festivals etc. a well as charities like anna daan, water and such essentials thorugh common efforts. Such a place is lost now by government takeover and police control in eveyr hindu temple and hindu community samsthans
Yes .. needs to happen .. but how do we do this ??
And m serious ..
O,My mother, My mother, namaste. We are your sons, still alive. You trust our faith and future. Mabhai.
Padmashree Dr. Meenakshi Jain, salute to you 🙏
What an engaging discussion.of Dr Meenakshi Jain ma'am. ...as always.
I admire the manner in which she narrates, explains, answers every point or a story. How fortunate were those students who had the privilege of attending her lectures in person.
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Why were some Temples destroyed and some left alone.
There could be many reasons.
1) Some Mughal Rulers were of a bit of benign nature.
2) They looted and destroyed the most important and rich temples.
3) They left only minor small Temples without destruction.
4) Some Hindu Rulers of the era were powerful enough to ward off the attacks
5) Some Hindu Rulers allied with the Muslim Ruler and managed to avoid destruction of Temples and Properties
6) In some Temples the devotees or the area Hindu Rulers paid off the Muslm attackers to save the Temple
6) In some cases the Devotees and Hindu Rulers managed to hide away the Deities.
7) In some cases the Muslim Rulers were somewhat benign and a very few were large hearted to preserve the Temple Worship.
8) Many more reasons may be given for non destruction of Temples.
But Hindus never gave up. Even now we do not give up.
Let us regain our ancient grand heritage.
Thank you Madam for reconstructing this part of Indian history. Only by reading about these BHAKTAS will we able to celebrate what they have done. We have an extremely rich history of these BHAKTAS - the true transcendentalist - the true spiritualist. I'm so glad that we are unearthing this glorious part of Indian history. At least we and our children can learn from the life of these true BHAKTAS.
Dr. Meenakshi book needs to be prescribed
Excellent session with Dr. Meenakshi Jain
this video gave me a great feeling our ancestors are so great they stood so high n showed great spine and fought a lot of barbarians n still no religion across the globe stood against this desert cult religion only hinduism survived we have descendants of great warrior minded people india will flourish again.jai bharath
Thanks for your valuable time mam, it was so valuable to listen you. I knew about your book but because I am out of India right now I could not buy your book.
I think we should ask the British to return the idol of the Sun God 🙏
Not God and not Idol. Decolonise 🕉🙏
Not only that, countless other priceless artifacts including the kohinoor
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Naman❤
Respects from Bengaluru for sharing these details and video 🙏
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Iconoclasm of Christianity predates Mecca. Roman temples were all brought down. Almost nothing is left except ruins. Now all statues are displayed in museums - most of them ever unearthed in medieval times.
Brilliant and informative 👏 👍
Extremely well researched and insightful
A sincere Thank You 🙏🙏
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If secrete vaults/rooms of Swami Padamanabh Mandir can be opened by Supreme Court order, why Taj Mahal rooms can not opened. Why Courts are discriminating against Hindus.
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Omg, such a wonderful talk and insights🙏🌟 I thank all my ancestors who have done so much for Santana Dharma🙏🪔 Jai Mata Bhavani🙏🌹🌸💕
Mandir to Banega 🚩🚩🚩
Only Solution is Hindu Unity 🙏🙏
Excellent questions also
Thankyou so much ! So much of research you have done ! Hats off to you madam !!
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Wonderful session
The Italian archaeologists found the bust of brahma from the footsteps of a mosque
Good work
instead of image, we should call them murties. They are called incarnation in murties(shila or daaru..)
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I just realized that going to temple doesnt make you Hindu. Know and respect your ancestors. Know your culture. Know your past. We knew jack shit. Now I am ashamed of Myself. In my life I never tried to know about our history😢
how much research has gone into these talks! This is real bhakthi to our devatas. People cheat the world that they are bhakthas but never fight for Gods, they just get lazy and give up their Gods their motherland mothers to crooks
Tolerance democracy in the present form and secularism is death of Hinduism.
Can you also do a program like this about Buddhist remains and temples in India, please?
How about Marxist Toumbs, Gandy's Putlas and Bandit NoWheru libraries?
we hindus dont have any appreciation for these priests and their lineages, what great risks they ahve taken to preserve the Gods.
Please confirm whether Mecca maszid was Mukheswra shiva temple
Who built that temple
Now the flight in new form, our traditional deities are removed and new false gurus like sai baba installed in place of devatas and Bhagawan . We never had a temple even for Ved Vyas , all rishies and gurus were worshipped in the form of linga (since they merged with paramatma without individuality) or gurus padukas
The attack in the comments itself show whom we up against ...
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But in the south we have instances of Tamil kings desecrating images of other Hindu sects. Like if a king had converted to Saivism then he desecrated the Vishnu image in a temple. Is this true?
I know 1 temple in udaipur (bai ji raj ka kund) near Delhi gate, where the deity came from vridavan & they were given this place for mandir by Rana's in 16th century or so. 1 more is in nasirabad near ajmer, there also deity came from vrindavan in the time period. So, yes..after that fatwa by bigot auranjeeb, many deities were moved in rajasthan in different cities.
Islam did it as a norm.Mohammad too had destroyed ,that's followed by all.Madina riyasath means that which doesn't allow others live ,only muslims.
India respects ,not others in the world. Why now tolerance? We will be tolerance settling issues. Limited tolerance and conditional one.If we trust muslims same thing is repeated.
British destroyed and looted the Hindu temples of Delhi soon after the 1857 war of independence. They were as much barbarians as the Islamic invaders.
The details are mentioned in the book "Narrative of the Siege of Delhi" by Charles John Griffiths.
Vg meenakshji
now hindua voluntarily leave mother land, their kula devatas , the parents who are the family Gods, their go mathas etc and go wherever only their individual stomachs can be filled . Very wrong
In 185 BCE, there was a watershed moment, when the Maurya king Brihadrath, was publicly lynched by his own Senapati, Pushyamitra Shung, who offered gold to anyone, who brought, the decapitated head of a Buddhist Priest. He mis appropriated all Buddhist, sites, stupa, viharas, chaityas, he demolished most of these, in a bid to destroy Buddhist faith in lndia. We often blame the lslamic rulers including Mughals, for mercilessly, demolishing temples, but are silent on destruction of eightyfour thousand Buddhist sites, & famous universities. The historians, should look into all aspects of over history, & not present history partially & selectively.
Disagree with Meenakshi Jain. History of Iconoclasm (destruction of idols) started after the Roman King Constantine converted to Christianity in 312 CE, and not in 7th century Mecca. Here are the starting period details:
314 CE: Immediately after its full legalisation, the Christian Church attacks the gentiles (non-Christians). The Council of Ancyra denounces the worship of Goddess Artemis.
324 CE: The emperor Constantine declares Christianity as the only official religion of the Roman empire. In Dydima, Minor Asia, he sacks the Oracle of the god Apollo and tortures the Pagan priests to death. He also evicts all non-Christian peoples from Mount Athos and destroys all the local Hellenic temples.
326 CE: Constantine, following the instructions of his mother Helen, destroys the temple of the god Asclepius in Aigeai Cilicia and many temples of the goddess Aphrodite in Jerusalem, Aphaca, Mambre, Phoenicia, Baalbek, etc.
353 CE: An edict of Flavius Julius Constantius, who succeeded Constantine as the King in 337 CE orders the death penalty for all kind of worship through sacrifices and “idols”.
she said it with respect to the experience of Indians... Iconoclasm that Indians first experienced has its roots in islam not judaism or christianity... although they were inter - related via Abraham's iconoclasm.
@@Subodhini - She spoke about origin of Iconoclasm. Anyway, Hindus need to know that Christianity is equally against Iconoclasm as is Islam.
Thank you, early Christianity was particularly visicious towards prior so called pagan structures
@@msriram9884 - In North East India, Tribal belt and parts of South India, the Christian Missionaries have been behind all acts of moorti breaking, thefts from Mandirs and ridiculing Hindu idols - in their conversion drive.
@@vikramrazdan5680 both Islam and Christianity are same that is intolerant towards other religion.
Delivery of this book through Amazon is the worst thing .. The sellers of the books are ridiculous they are sending the Indian Post office those idiots not doing door step delivery ... Of course frustrated with the option you opted to sell this book.
Dr Meenakshi Jain ji. Your un-decolonised books are being used in Bhāratiya schools which is much more serious. One has a choice not to watch your videos. This is an alert to correct your ways for the Sanātani saṁskr̥ti
Dhanyavādaḥ 🕉🇮🇳🙏
What are you saying?
If the Bhāratiya influencers aren't exemplary in their thoughts, words and actions, then #decolonisation and #deislamisation will take inordinately longer for Bhārat. Vandé Mātaram 🕉🇮🇳🙏
Love you Maa
A superb talk . So refreshing . Thank you Madam !