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Flight Of Deities And Rebirth Of Temples: Episodes From Indian History
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
- In this podcast, Dr. Meenakshi Jain talks with Kushal about her book "Flight of Deities and Rebirth of Temples: Episodes from Indian History". This book is a journey into the tenacity of Hindu society and it challenges the hypothesis floated by left-wing historians that the desecration/destruction of Hindu temples by Islamic rulers were merely political activities and had nothing to do with their religious proclivities.
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:01:31 - Why the lies that all attacks on Hindu Temples were Political ?
00:08:34 - No destruction of mosques by rival factions
00:11:34 - The Rare incident of Lalitaditya and issues
00:20:15 - The Hindu Civilizational Memory
00:33:25 - Other ways of saving idols
00:43:22 - Destruction of Jain images and Denial
00:48:05 - Jagganath Puri and Aurangzeb
00:50:52 - Many other incidents even the Portuguese
00:54:15 - QnA
i was in spain in 2018, went to granada and was amazed to see how proudly they display churches which were taken by muslims and converted into mosques only to be converted again into churches by the crusaders. Meanwhile in India we cant even talk about it without being called bhakts.
All over the world local history is told with pride.
It's only India and the curse of Congress because of which we were always forced to be ashamed and feel as if we were weak.
@@user-dz4pb2ll3k Your country will soon beg for wheat and oil. focus on your nation, you guys as it is get a few hours of electricity. Bhikari kaum!!
Dues vult
@Alexios I Komnenos ok andhbhakt
Have to say this. The devotees of medivial period literally melts my heart completely
Because of them, we are surviving today. Salute to our ancestors!
Absolutely. They were unimaginably brave.
Indeed
That's why all we do related to dharma is what we have got from them !
Most of it is Influenced by them only
Whether Tulasidas or Surdas
Near 28:00 ma'am told about how religious leaders from different parts like Telangana, Orissa, etc. came to Mathura because there was always a concept of Bharatvarsh.
And now these so called politicians are joining hands with the Crooked Man Rahul Gandhi saying "India is a union of states"
Bharat was always 1 and will always remain 1.
Congress succeeded once in partition, but won't be able to do it again.
It will be heart wrenching for any devout Hindu to know that these two grand shrines srirangam and Meenakshi temples remained shut for decades after Malik kafur invasion, until the vijayanagar queen Gangadevi having heard the story, personally led an army to free these towns from Islamist rulers and restored these temples, as chronicled by this highly accomplished queen in her literary work Maduravijayam.
We are indeed blessed to have people of courage and integrity as our forefathers , else our holy land would have gone the Iran , Egypt way in the hands of barbarians. As mark of respect atleast every hindu should atleast instil pride in our culture among his family and children.
You completely ignored the fact that the barbarian invasions were successful because many of our rajas were weak. We are a feel-good society that never reflects on our mistakes.
Taking pride in the achievements is not bad, but analysing the mistakes is way more important to avoid repetation.
I visited the sahastrabahu temple outside Gwalior fort in 2014. That was my first encounter with broken idols and abandoned temples due to barbarians. I was 14 YO then, I had no understanding of politics. To say the least I was a left conforming liberal. Yet my first reaction was "they did THIS to our temples". I was devasted as a kid. Obviously the temple was stunning even after all it has gone through.
One of the few books that made me cry. Painful history. No justice.
Boss is it your real name . Bada bhaukali naam hai .
@Alexios I Komnenos Yes that is correct. 'Foujdar' is a common surname among Jats living around Delhi, especially in the seat of the Jat kingdom of Bharatpur, where I am originally from.
My family's diety in Thoravi, Bijapur. The entire temple structure looks like a mosque with no idols when entered, but the worship of the deity happens under the ground. There's a small passage like a cave in a room that was once used as a storage room. The passage itself can be closed if needed.
Now I am not sure why it was done so, coz there are two stories, one that the temple needed monetary support from the Islamic king, hence the priests disguised the temple as a mosque to receive the grant. The Islamic king was impressed and supported it financially. The second is that the temple was disguised as a mosque to prevent the Islamic ruler from destroying it, while idol worship happened under the ground.
There's also a story that the idol itself was unearthed after the diety ordered so in a dream.
I am not sure about the stories, but if someone could do more research, here's one such example.
I usually remain quite stoic hearing, reading most painful things. This time however I felt a deep sadness. No words. No responses. Just sheer painful sadness.
Ordering her book to go through it myself page by page.
Yes Harshit, I too felt the same and also a lot of gratitude for our ancestors.
Bhojshala mandir's history makes you angry😡
Shantadurga of Goa is our kuldevata. Destruction by Portuguese and reinstating the vigraha are well documented.
Hi, I've stayed for a year in Goa and my grandest disappointment was the fact that the beautiful and legendary temples, including Taambdi Surla, are not talked about enough. Even my local Goan friends didn't talk about them. I don't know how can it be possible but Goa Tourism needs to include places of this sort, and talk about the Portuguese atrocities and Hindu revivalsim.
@@JackSordakaPVS I like that these places are away from tourist crowd. Keeps sanctity of our temples.
listening to this i could visualize the statue of Saraswati emerging from the mud..still covered in mud in parts....i could truly feel the soul within it...the stone felt so alive...so full of a soul....
I had recently joked about even Sikri being a Hindu site and lo and behold...smh...undo alll the damage...our revenge would be rebuilding ourselves...prospering and successfully protecting ourselves...
There is a kadri manjunatha temple in Karnataka it used to be a Buddhist vihara it has statue of Avalokitesvra and Manjushri.
after Buddhism declined in South India people start worshipping them as Brahma and shiva .
they don't harm the statues
@@amithshettigar1940 Actually I have visited kadri manjunatha temple .
Iam always intrested in Mahayana Buddhism so iam surprised to see statue of Manjushri or Manjuvajra , Avalokitesvra both Bodhisattva being worshipped .
@@smoky3302 well hindus do worship buddhist deities and most buddhist deties are hindu deities incorporated into the religion well it wasnt a buddhist temple
Kushal, there is a story of Maharaja Ganga Singh ji of Bikaner stepping in to save an important Devi mandir which was ordered by the Brits to be "removed" because it was in the way of Railway line laying. After intervention by the Maharaja the line was shifted around the temple.
From listening to Dr. Jain, it dawned on me that our ancestors could not fully comprehend the reasons behind Islamic wanton destruction because it is so contrary to human thought, decency and progress.
Unfortunately, nothing has changed as we see Muslims defend the case for the Gyanvapi structure knowing full well that the structure was built on a demolished temple. You CANNOT wake up a person who is pretending to be asleep
The solution begins with all of us identifying the problem. There never was, and can never be any Ganga-Jamuna sentiment. Know the enemy because they definitely know you, while you blather on about secularism and bhai-chaaraa nonsense. They are out to destroy you. Destroy them first
I agree with you 100%
How are you so bang on. Never thought of it this way.
Out Kings and Queens could never comprehend how someone can be this barbaric like Islamic invaders. They treated the invaders like fellow humans, the kings and queens should have been brutal towards these invaders.
Majority of current generation have become such simps. We are ready to discard traditions and practices and want to question everything. Whereas our ancestors in medival times made supreme sacrifices to uphold dharma. Great session! Loved every topic you discussed
For better information, watch Meenakshi Jain's interview with Rajiv Malhotra..
even better read Books written by Ma'am
@@usc4405 Yes.
I hate my childish self for hating my ancestors because of the #Distorians that hid their glorious and valiant acts. Seriously, it feels like Bhaarat is recovering from a well-attempted cultural genocide on the literary or intellectual front. Thanks to warriors like Meenakshi Ma'am and Shikaris like Kushal!
51.20 Exactly. Throughout the talk i myself was gathering the similar stories i heard in and around western maharashtra.
Even smallest of small towns have their own stories to tell.
The common phenomenon around our regional temples is you will observe domes to temples. That was done to confuse invaders.
Which ones? I only know about the temple on Raigad that was shaped like the onion.
What a brilliant program. Hats off to Dr. Meenakshi Jain
Listening to the stories hidden old murti been found out reminds me of the temple in my mother's village near Varanasi . The story is that the Shivling in temple was discoverd by my mother great grandfather who excavated it after having a dream about it.
My Heart Weeps from Inside when I hear what our ancestors have gone through.
People from far and near travelling and sharing so much knowledge and culture. And yet half baked leaders say that we are not a nation just a unity of states!!!
Starting a personal movement 🙏🏼 #MyDistrictHeritage #MyDistrictTempleHeritige #myhistoricalresearch
Dr Meenakshi ji is great 👍
Brilliant episode. One comment on 53:30. The British should be understood in the context of Protestant Christianity morphing (eventually "secularizing") into capitalism. In other words, the Catholic and Islamic expansions are much more strongly based on theology (for instance Spanish destruction of native Mesoamerican temples are probably worst than Islamic destruction of local idols), whereas the Protestants had a "renewed" version of Christianity, and the focus was much more on civilizing Indians in the economic and political sense.
Ilavarasan Dandapandiyan ~ Please read Kautilya's (Chanakya Vishnu Gupta) Arthashastra. The protestants (or any branch/denomination of chrsitianity or judaism) could not/cannot/will not even get anywhere close to the civilization, economy, environmental issues, family structure, marriage, politics, war strategies AND mutual respect for all people of the world envisaged in that magnum opus. It is a must-read for every human being. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Wonderful discussion, always very insightful to hear from Meenakshi Ma'am
Breaking of Idols is one of the greatest deed a Muslim could do.. Being Buutshikan is a badge of honor in Islam.. In India if an individual ruler may have desecrated temple of other sects it was an individual act by an evil ruler not a general sanction of Hinduism, Jainism or Bhudhism.
She is worth more than 24 carret gold.
Kushal Sir, yeh knowlegde kahin kisi aur channels pr nahi mil sakti. Thanks for letting this truth come forward.
धन्यवाद जैनजी आपकी अनुदान के लिए हिंदू ससंकृति और धर्म रक्षा ओर सुधार के प्रति। 💐🌹💚❤
A very very Informative Podcast
in rajasthan the murti of salsar balaji which is now one of the biggest relegious sites was discovered by a farmer in his field
when Pulakeshi and Harshavardhana fought and formed a treaty, they assumed the titles of Dakshinapatheshwara and Uthara Patheshwara. Meaning the rulers of Dakshina Patha, and Uthara Patha. Both were roads connecting India. They could have easily changed its name to something else, I mean they were kings who had conquered half of India each after all. Dravida Nadu Patha and Aryavartha Patha probably, and even assume the titles as such. But they followed the tradition, and culture, of Bharatha respecting it and keeping the title accordingly.
And if you think that "oh, that's because they were established norms, and they just followed it for easy recollection of their names and titles", then why did Islamic rulers change the names of every city and road they conquered? Were they that foolish, to not spread their title and conquests across?
outstanding....shocked to know the amazing civilization memory....
So many mediums to thank. Internet, the variety of videos and the rich information about our rich heritage and rich history. I am a threshold child of India and grew up exposed to much of Indian thought inits variations. Perhaps around 18 years ago I read an article by a French indophile who made me aware of the fascinating truth of how Hindus have survived despite 1000 years of foreign war rule. Since then I have been on this discovery of my Hindu history. Each video and discussion has given me one more piece to add to the puzzle of my country. Thank you all ,,living and mechanical to have given me this precious gift in my dying years. God bless
Is it possible for you to have an episode on Dharmic heritage of Pakistan, both ancient and medieval and what happened to it? Why do we not come across stories of magnificent temples in Pakistan destroyed by invaders? Did they never exist or have we forgotten that part of our history so thoroughly that Gandhara now seems to be a foreign land?
One of the best podcasts yet 👏
U were d only reason mam,being an engineer I am also diging history.
Fantastic work done by Meenakshiji and Thank you Kushal for bringing it to us. The humongous efforts taken by Meenakshiji and other authors in researching our history, the scarifices and struggles of our ancestors in those demonic times are invaluable and historic themselves. All generations pastand present and future will forever be indebted to all such authors who spent their time and energy in researching and uncovering our demolished and desecrated past and presenting the truth in it's full glory to us. It's an immensely great service to our ancestors who scarificed their lives protecting their Dharm. Though not by name, we are remembering them, their struggles and sacrifices and their souls must be getting some peace now after centuries. All credit to Kushal, Meenakshiji and all such truth seeking historians and authors. More and more power to you. 🙏🏻🙏🏻. जो द्रढ़ राखे धर्म ने, ताहि राखे करतार। Jai Hind. Jai Maa Bharti.
Hats off the lady for bringing out such gem of hindu kings and devotees dedication to temple
We need a movie about this period in time... Learnt so so much from this discussion. Huge thanks to Kushal to Meenakshi ma'am!
Keep going ...
Amazing Knowledge and food for thought
Thank you Ma'am 🙏
Never get the notifications of your videos...anyways thanks for the good work...
Amazing session!!
Amazing discussion !!!
Pranam mam
All hail to mam 🙌...
Wish Truschke would hear this!
Just one bit .. at about 39 mins Meenakshi ma'am talks about the Meenakshi idol being shifted to the Gopuram to save from invaders ..but how can the deity been put on the Gopuram.. The design of the Gopuram cannot support the deity being put on top .. pls clarify ..
Kushal is redeeming himself through his interviews of the likes of Prof. Jain and Prof. Elst after the shameful episode of giving space to that lowlife Shekhar Gupta.
R J ~ I agree, but then again, we need a raul 'pappu' vinci to realize how good Modi ji is. We can always us SG to showcase how corrupt a person can be.
bruh don't go to that level of hating someone, I disagree with SG on a lot of issues, but comeon, he isn't a lowlife and all dude.
@Alexios I Komnenos I am happy to modify my comment above as follows. It was OK to give space to a fraud like SG; but my problem with Kushal in that interview was that he did not challenge SG enough and let him get away too easily.
LOL, SG compares journalists with doctors. In my humble opinion, any Ram, Jaggu and Hari can become a journalist with a bit of common sense and a sense of ethics; one does not have to be a "trained journalist" like SG. :)
🙏🙏🙏
I forgot to ask what is your thought on Bharat Ek Khoj by shyam benegal .
I started watching it on YT
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53:40 you cant find record online, you have go there, which ....
please correct jinprabhasuri was acharya during that period who helped to save shatrunjay as on today there are cluster of temples along with 53335 statutes daily offered prayers
ok this hurts
is it possible to make this book available on Kindle? Kushal if you could speak with ma'am.
Where can I get an audiobook for this
can anyone tell me the name of the song that plays in the intro,plz.
Butprasti mean idol worshipping .
do u know why the word BUT is used for Idols .
the word BUT come from Buddha the islamic invader first encounter of a idol worshipper are Buddhist of central Asia
dude come on Islamic invaders destroyed Pre Islamic statues, especially Persian too. They would have encountered them rather than Buddhist idols. I am not saying they didn't destroy, they did a lot, but I don't think it's derived in that way.
BRUH "बुत" in Arabic lexicon meant statue even in pre islamic era
You can understand by this Arabic writing on Buddsaf (Boudhisatv/Buddisatv)czcams.com/video/JylogzbOQK8/video.html 👈👈&Buttprasti=BuddhStuti=Persian word for Buddh Worshiping 👈
😢🚩🙏
the thing is this is not just history, but the contemporary thinking as well against Hindus and Hinduism reinforced many times over by "modernity", as well as the post 1947 constitutional order, at least the way it has been implemented. the former manifests itself in the form of virtue signalling, the latter by the concept of "majority" and "minority", that minorities have to be protected from the majority i.e. muslims and Christians have to be protected from Hindus, when in fact it is the muslims and christians who have been doing all the attacking and vandalism and continue to do so even today. Also infinitely reinforced by the centralized power vested in the Indian State, which has taken over all aspects of our life, and is determined that it is "not Hindu". Not one of the numerous instances of resistance offered by Hindus was the outcome of any Central sanctions or permission. what would happened if they had had to take such permissions?
well what happened in history is tragic .
but we have to ask a question can we claim these sites without violence .
we have to ask a question that will such assertions will lead to another partition.
True. The young Muslims of today are highly radicalized. They literally consider themselves as a part of Global Dar-ul-Islam with Jihadi mentality. They have zero respect for Bhārtiya civilization.
NO! its not upto us to ask such questions.
Hi dus rnt asking for all mandirs but Ayodhya, Kashi and Mathura which r of different importance to hindus .
Mandir is center of Hi du Civilization.
Reclaim, Rebuilt.
Voilence or no violence
Yes you are right we need to claim it without violence..
Even if single life is lost it will be a worst tragedy.. A temple worth is not more than a human life
But On Same note we should not forget it either or never let anyone forget it.. What liberals and islamists do is Denialism
Forgive But never Forget
@@anandraghuvanshi3572 u r a shame on d bloodline of ur kshatriya ancestors.
without war comes extinction!
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shramana brahmana alliance FTW
What did Rahul Gandhi mean when he said that India needs only a spark now, kerosene is already there???
if u can't rule it break it .
that's what he want I think as per him his grandfather create India so it was his birthright to rule .
@@smoky3302 True
Yes that spark of sanatan dharma is already ignited and it is burning all so called fake seculars all over India. Anyway we have to find real meaning what he says.
@@jaihindjaibharat7376 He may be preparing for waging a civil war..
Ayush Raj ~ He actually meant that he's a first-rate jerk.