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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
- In this podcast, Kushal speaks with Dr. Meenakshi Jain about her new book "THE HINDUS OF HINDUSTAN: A Civilizational Journey".
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00:00:00 - intro
00:01:44 - the seven year struggle
00:08:20 - Mapping India
00:13:39 - Aryavarth
00:21:00 - all communities accepted
00:24:33 - How to Discuss issues
00:31:00 - Accepting Knowledge
00:34:00 - refusing Hinduism
00:40:45 - Commonalities and assimilation
00:50:50 - Al Baruni's Accounts
00:54:50 - Mughal Rajput marriages
00:58:20 - no reform
01:00:18 - What did you learn and what next
Be wise like a Brahmin.
Be brave like a Kshatriya.
Be practical like a vaishya.
Be laborious like a Shudra.
@Uddipan Chaudhury; Uddipanji, Hinduism/ Sanathan Dharm is hypocritical. It claims to follow the noble doctrine "Ahinsha parmo dharma,' while using its faculties, wisdom, bravery, and labor in practicing caste apartheid for 2500+ years against lower-caste Hindus(~30% of the Hindu population), treating them as ACHUT, whose shadow would pollute the stupid, bigoted brahmin. Uddipanji, Hinduism/ Sanatan dharm, is the only religious belief that worships KALPANIC KATILS, like Ram, Krishna, Durga, Kali, and Shiva, who beheaded his son and, like a murkh, replaced it with a large and heavy head of a slaughtered elephant, crushing the beheaded lifeless body lying on the ground calling the composite MURDA, Ganapathi, and worshiping it for good luck and removing life obstacles. Good luck, Uddapinji, and your murkh Hindu samaj. Valmiki and Tulsidas Ramayan narrate that Ram, in rage and revenge, murdered Ravan and Khumbhkaran for Sita haran with the help of a monkey, Hanuman, that failed to pluck out Sanjivini booty growing on the Dorangiri parvat, yet, Hanuman, a monkey broke apart the parvat, LOL. Monkeys, including Hanuman, evolved with a monkey face and tail, without wings necessary to fly; still, murkh, Valmiki, and Tulsidas narrate that Hanuman, a monkey without wings, flew across Bharat carrying the parvat to light a flame with its flaming tail, biologically jhoot and bakwas, to Lanka to burn its inhabitants, including innocent women and children committing the world's first GENOCIDE for vicious KATIL Ram, who encouraged Laxman to chop off Supernakha's nose. Bhagwat Gita FALSELY claims to contain Krishna's verbal discourse with Arjun at the Mahabharat ydh, 5561 BCE. Arjun and Krishna died without leaving any manuscript containing the verbal discourse for reliable printing. The earliest printing of the Gita occurred after many generations over a few centuries in the 15th Century from a new manuscript by an anonymous author who was not even born during the Mahabharath ydh, 5561 BCE. It is incomprehensible that a morally deviant Krishna, a neighborhood chore pervert, ogles and hides the clothes of the women bathing at the Yamuna ghats to lust at their boobs. After failing to mediate, he encouraged Arjun to do his Kshatriya dharm and joined Arjun in the mass murder of 100 Kauravas who would write the words of wisdom for a productive life. Facts lead to the truth. Sadly, the truth being bitter is missing in Hinduism. Your explanation of Brahmin, Kshatriya, vaishya, and Shudra is like putting lipstick on a pig. It will always be a stinking pig. Satyemeva Jayete.
Be subversive like a mlechha
@@st.mephisto8564 be predetory like a Christian missionary
@@st.mephisto8564 The European/Christians have genocide-d & exploited billions of natives; looted their lands, plundered their resources & destroyed their culture in Americas, India/Asia & all around the world!! They didn't even spare wild life & nature!!
Hell!! imposition of Christianity in Europe led to Europeans killing their own people, burning their women alive as "witches" & destroying their own nature loving polytheistic culture!!
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It's worth reading the freely downloadable book on European History of the Middle Ages: The Darkening Age - The Christian Destruction of the Classical World (2017) - By Catherine Nixey.
@@bababistril Make Biryani like an Abdool
Hindu Stalwarts like her are a breath of fresh air. Massive respect for her.
@Sailesh Suresh
So is like her father who was a great journalist] and a staunch defender of Sanatan dharma.
@@bmniac many Hindu Baniyas have surname Jain, it's speculated that perhaps they reverted back to Vedic religion sometime when Rajputs became prominent and dominant powers in North Western India not in fear though as we have Jain records praising Rajputs along with records of Jain Ministers in their courts, or that Jain word itself had different connotation this whole time and some people who identified themselves with Jain identity practiced Vedic Religion while others practiced Ajaivik Religion
But either way there are Hindus with Jain lastnames and professor is one of them.
She's a national treasure!
We are in debt of this woman. 🙏
Meenakshi Jain is a modern Maharishi taking us from ignorance to the light of knowledge 🙏🙏🙏
Dr Jain deserve our highest respect
LOL that she already has, what she really needs is exposure and appreciation, if all of us proud Hindus ever read her works, we'll be armed with evidence filled counter arguments and rebuttals of 80% of the intellectual attacks anti Hindus throw at our civilizational History
It’s an outstanding podcast, please improve your video quality
Love from West Bengal
I love the differentiation between all-embracing versus expansionist. All embracing indicates an evolving philosophical/cultural structure centered around dharma (right action) against an imposed, over arching cultural structure that wipes away a previous philosophical base.
Thank you Meenakshi ma'am 😊 and Thank you Kushal..God bless you
Jai Shree Ram.
Thank you so much Kushal & Meenakshi Mam🙏🏻
Dear Kushal, could you please investigate the desync and video quality issues? It is getting worse and worse with every one-on-one podcast you stream.
Hello Kushal Sir. Firstly, thank you for organising this podcast. There is an immanent need for preserving the words and views of historians such as Dr Jain and I thank you for your active efforts in striving towards this challenge.
A small and polite suggestion from my side Sir. I Kindly request you to do a high quality Recordings of such distinguished speakers as I suspect that a live event has caused in the video and audio quality. I dont want to sound rude/demanding at all as I completly understand that organising such events are not at all easy and you are indeed trying your best.
I thank you once again for the podcast and look forward to your upcoming videos. All the best Sir.
Excellent. The quality oof the homework of the anchor was praisewirthy.
We find evidence that Buddhist and Jain monks, and even Shaivite mendicants lived alongside in rock cut shelters. They had regular debates in the viharas in these caves. We know of this from the ancient literature.
Please improve your Audio quality Kushal. Such important discussion and the audio kept breaking up.
Kushal bhai is positively giddy 😂
May Mahadev bless her with long life and good health. ❤
Excellent
Amazing!!
Great discussion 👌
Upload clear audio video later as some important parts are difficult to understand.
50:20 for example
Kushal, please add subtitles for the parts with patchy audio
Illuminating and fascinating talk
31:31 yavana does not only mean greeks. Yavana is a sanskrit word which is used to discribe people of a mix breed or mixed people.
Also the mahabharata text gives alot of astronomical data that clearly shows that it happened 5000 years ago and not in 100bce
Yavana has always been used for Ionians that came along with Alexander, it's meaning later incorporating people of mix blood was due to the general consideration of Indo Aryan/Ionian mix children as Ionian too
@@orionsbelt927 again peddling the aryan myth. Rather say indo-european.
Aryan is just a Sanskrit word that means noble.
Yavana was used to describe people who are foreign and later it was used to describe the Greeks. There is no strong evidence to propose that yavana the word was invented for the greeks.
@@NoRiceToEat lol wtf did i just read ? Aryan is what people of Indo Aryan stock described themselves to be, and they certainly won't want the word they identity with to mean Barbarian would they ? The Pandya Inscriptions of the south literally describe their kings killing and punishing Aryan kings with alloting them titles such as āryapīdaikadandikā meaning the punisher of Aryans, so Arya or Aryan is the genetic and lingual identity our mighty ancestors and establishers of the great Vedic religion described themselves to be
Plus Alexandrian Greeks literally called themselves ionians, the word itself is one of the cognate words that is Yavana along with Huna Saka found in Indo Iranic and Indo Aryan languages
Yeah,
Yavana also means Javanese,
Java is the major island of the Indonesia
Yavana means Greek , it can also mean Javanese
@@orionsbelt927 Lol you didn't hear a single word of this podcast did you?
Just as Meenakshi mam said there are manuscripts which mention "Rishi, Arya and Mlechcha" differently... So are the Rishis also different from Aryas now? 😂
Rishis wrote the Vedas not some hypothetical idiots called aryans who came riding the chariots... 😂
And Indians a lot of times also called the Muslim Turks as Yavanas... So were the persianised turks were also Greeks? 😂
Common sense tells that the pandya inscriptions are simply stating that those pandya king didn't consider themselves as 'Noble man'...
Yavanas in Mahabharata were sons of Yayati...
my system is showing HD, but the video is looking worse than 144p, around 35-40 minute
did that happen with anyone else?
Audio video issue
Good Job Kushal
May I recommend you to do another book review: Guru to the World by Ruth Harris.
I am reading this book and it’s a wonderful work.
❤️❤️❤️
Great 👍🏻 podcast
But kushal can you do something about tha bad audio and laga in between
It's hard to piece few places
This was such an important episode but the audio quality was really bad….one would think if both are in same room that would not be an issue but seems like this was a live….would really appreciate if a locally recorded copy (even if just audio) could be uploaded as this one had audio glitched or completely gone at many important sections!
What's the point of doing podcast live? You can record it for better quality. This one has so much audio breaking that it's affecting the content. Hope you understand.
The video and audio quality was really poor in this podcast. Otherwise it was a great discussion.
Hi kushal try doing a podcast on the effect of AI in India's future. The recent developments in LLMs and diffusion models are ashtonishing as well as frightening. If possible bring people like Mitesh Khapra from IITB, prof. Mausam from IITD. If you think of doing so please don't bring any so called AI expert, believe me there are a lot these days.
🙏
😂The rigidity of different castes is down to the politicans
1nd half of Video, audio getting stuck.
Bad
Sound & vedio quality issue.
It’s not like that mahaveer is actually a avatar of lord Vishnu
Yamuna par Hindustan
I DONT AGREE WE WENT IMBIBING INDIA.. WITHOUT KNOWING THE BOUNDARIES....
ANYBODY WILL KNOW THE BOUNDS OF ANY LAND MASS WITH SCOUTS SPIES & CARTOGRAPHER...
IT MAY BE JUST THAT... THEY RECORDED THEM INTO DIVINE JOURNALS......
AT DIFFERENT POINT OF TIME DUE TO SEVERAL SPECIFIC QUALITIES & QUALIFICATIONS OF THE AUTHORS & AGENTS.......
JUST AS ATARVA VEDA WAS PUBLISHED A LONG TIME AFTER YAJUR VEDAA...
You need to do better on the sound editing. It breaks at many points
Is this video is glitching a lot or my internet is bad🤔
The audio is breaking up.
Meenakshi Jain is trying to say that there was no discrimination based on caste in 8th or 9th century. But manusmriti clearly discriminatory against shudras and chandalas. It seems to me that she has an agenda in distorting facts.
No, bro , I dint see anything related to Caste or jati varna , where she has said that there is no caste system, she implied that the caste system was not so rampant and rigid that it become later on . And it is fact, Dr niraj rai research paper on endogamy in india also proves that endogamy within caste became rampant after 5 bce and manusamriti was also written during that period .
@@sagarpaul7934 Around 26:30 she says that while she has not dealt with when this (meaning caste system) "aberration" happened but she has mainly dealt with the 8th and 9th century and in that period she has not come across this. The fact that Buddha, as early as 500 BCE, spoke against the caste system clearly shows that caste system was not just prevalent by rampant even then. This was probably even before manusmriti was codified.
Also, around 22:30 she says that the customs and laws were not imposed from top down. That is BS. To the best of my knowledge there is no record of the customs and personal laws, in a codified manner, of lower castes especially the shudras and chandalas.
All dharma shastras were written by Brahmins and to say that these laws were not imposed from top is mind boggling. I would like to see what evidence she has to make such claim.
The writ of Brahmins in making laws, and thereby the customs, of all castes placing Brahmins at the top and shudras at the bottom of the hierarchy (with clear delineation of what which caste could do or not do in every field of life) is clear from any scripture you pick up be it the shrutis, smritis, sutras or shastras.
There is an attempt by some historians, with certain affiliations, in re-writing Indian history by distorting facts is very obvious, at least to me.
@@vs9324 // she says that the customs and laws were not imposed from top down. That is BS. To the best of my knowledge there is no record of the customs and personal laws, in a codified manner, of lower castes especially the shudras and chandalas. //
So explain the concept like Samucchaya or Samayacarika & Apastamba Dharmasutra ?
@@dsbdsb6637 Don't ask questions. Make your point.
@@vs9324 The question is the point.
Address the guest as Dr. Jain
Address yourself as "nobody asked for my opinion"
@@rawadosa90210 Why are you butthurt with my comment?
Again, my respects to ma'am but she's completely off the rails about origin of Rajputs and such after 27:00, chota mu badi baat but she should read some authentic contemporary accounts of the time and of the use of word 'Gurjara' and it's connotation, I read it pertains to a region called Gurjardesa (Modern day Gujarat/southern Rajasthan) and not the Gujjar/Gauchar caste.
Kushal, i cannot follow. Breaking up.
Y’all North Indians need to stop using this term Hindustan. As a Tamil I can be part of bahart but I ain’t claiming loyalty to no Stan. Thank u very much.
Yes it's an Islamic word we should always use Bharat
She is wrong at many points
WORST VIDEO quality.
You guys always do the same.
In the name of history and scientific approach, always advertise, myths , Jadoo, yagya , Rishi, ( suddenly after yagya 4 rajput emerges from hawankund , so they are mythical creatures)
You guys always shifts from history to myths, ( ramayàn and Mahabharat).
That is why they say, Brahmans are cunning , even when you think brahman is telling the truth, they will insert a lie about their superiority and their mythical nature so that their supermacy may continue.
Do you even know you've just revealed your stark prejudice against Brahmins and every body that talks for the Hindu faith ?
Where did they advertise Jadoo Tona exactly ?
Or it's your tóílet cleaning prejudice leaking out of frustration to the prospect of people starting to respect the Brahmins again for all the atrocities they've been through and all the sacrifices they have made ?
I see where it comes from, the ideology who's founder was himself a prejudiced cunning charlatan would only prepare prejudiced and illiterate charlatans like yóu through his ideas who shíts on every body that defends Hindu faith and represents an evidence based counterview point to the purely political anti Brahmin narrative that came into existence in 19th century
Brahmins are Shreshtha and so are the Kshatriyas because it were their ancestors who wrote our scriptures down and ensured it's safe keep.
People give Dakshinas to the Brahmins because of their knowledge of Shastras and expertise in Karmakand or Hindu Rituals, and only Brahmins are qualified for it because their ancestors were who wrote them down, if yóu have a problem with that leave the religion but keep yóur shít to yourself, don't need to impose yóur thoughts upon others, because if not Brahmins, then we surely will thrash yóu back