The hardest part of producing - knowing when you’re done! 😂 Even the top notch producers have this issue. Prince tried all kinds of different bass lines for “when doves cry”, and finally decided it didn’t need it. Pharrell and Chad tried all kinds of bass lines for Grinding by The Clipse and decided it didn’t need it. Sting tried to add all kinds of extra synthesizers and what not to “every breath you take” and decided it didn’t need it. That’s the key is knowing when you don’t need to add more.
Well said, the producer Andrew Huang has a great video on this topic called “The One Thing Every Artist Needs to Know” where he talks about the process of learning when to DECIDE that a song is finished. In it he says “There is no “perfect”, there’s only “finished.”
this statement is wrong because, for example, take an acapella song. There is nothing to take away from the beat because there is nothing in the beat, would that mean that the perfect beat is no beat?
Still Tippin will forever be legendary. Im.a big fan of the 2005 Houston hip hop wave. But from the jump, I figured simplicity and slowing down a sample to get a different vibe is the point.
Restarted producing after 4 months and been overproducing layering 4/5 melodic tracks over drums then being hurt when the reviews are cluttered muddy mixes. Simplicity is key!!
You’ve been helping me so much since I started my journey with this stuff since about like, 6 months ago? Thanks a lot for these videos Navie I really appreciate the help bro.
i seriously thought about this a week ago......as a newbie producer i thought tht adding a bunch of elements here and there and exaggerating a beat without arranging it properly was not a good idea and this made me doubt myself and it reminded me tht most of the og beats were simple and well arranged....this video made me convince the thoughts i had
Havoc’s beats followed the same principles. One slowed sample and a loop, shook one’s is one of the best beats ever imo and that’s it. Never thought about it like that.
@@NavieD About the strong core idea, may I ask if my unfinished beat already sounds distinct, what can I do to make it sound stimulating? it's 2023 and hyperpop is everywhere, of course it would be nice to have a song that you'd want to listen to over and over again and more than once, sometimes it sounds distinct but it sounds so unfulfilling, any advice?
honestly! i learned so much from you Navie. Im still amateur AF but you showed me so many good tricks to improve. I never wanted to become a pro or anything. Im just making beats for my own entertainment and its really cool to see some of the tricks the pros use. Thanks for all, and i hope you keep continuing to show some of the magic :)
Great video. The structure of it reflects the message, I think. Refine your core idea, deliver it, and then stop. Inspiring in its implications too. I really enjoyed this.
Been producing for about 12 years and have watched thousands of videos on production and this series you have going is my all time favorite by far. glad I found your page keep up the good work man!
For some reason this video made me immensely happy I make my own beats. Good bad or whatever I’m in the drivers seat. Honestly don’t know if I’ma ever make beats for anyone else but me from now on. Good luck out there guys
@@jessicaheller3076 I feel like I don’t want the headache of dealing with some of these Artists and I can do a better job than most. But I would still work with people I vibe with.
if definitely ruined a couple beats because i added too many sounds. sometimes looking at 2 or 3 tracks and only 5 mixer tracks looks so bare and unfinished im used to 50 tracks and 50 mixer slots 😅
It's normal to be a maximalist at first when choosing elements (sound selection), but having a song sound 'distinct' I guess is what Navie meant when he talks about 'strong core idea'.
@@NavieD Nah man.. I think imma stay with my beats. I think we getting too lazy now.. Gotta keep grinding and rack that perfectionism and an expectation from yourself a little higher, y'know?
Curious question: Why does adding more to a beat make a video more watchable/entertaining? I would think learning how the best beats are made or at least the foundation of them would be the point of watching a beat-making guide. Like you mentioned, the example beats had other techniques to keep the sound varied and add interest without ruining the foundation (the snares replaced sounds, not added - maintaining the simplicity). Wouldn't including such things in beat tutorials make them "watchable"? Also, thanks for this video, exposing a big tip for everyone with some big time artists as examples.
the thing i like about music is, there are rules. our ears percieve things in specific ways, so we cant change much. not saying there isnt room for diversity, but i just like how direct the avenue is. compared to videogame programming, this stuff is a breath of fresh air.
Thank you man, i made a really fire 10/10 (for my standard) beat yesterday in like 1 hour with only drums, a synth and a legato saw but i kep on adding shit and it just got really bad
6:50 Actually the alchemist said he felt guilty with his beat "the realest" because it was the one that the rappers chose but he felt guilty because there wasn't too much of production it was just two loops
This is so true. Sometimes even adding a second chord let alone a whole 4 chord progression can really ruin a beat and make it feel somehow more monotonous
The hardest part of producing - knowing when you’re done! 😂 Even the top notch producers have this issue. Prince tried all kinds of different bass lines for “when doves cry”, and finally decided it didn’t need it. Pharrell and Chad tried all kinds of bass lines for Grinding by The Clipse and decided it didn’t need it. Sting tried to add all kinds of extra synthesizers and what not to “every breath you take” and decided it didn’t need it. That’s the key is knowing when you don’t need to add more.
Fr bro
Good comment
Well said, the producer Andrew Huang has a great video on this topic called “The One Thing Every Artist Needs to Know” where he talks about the process of learning when to DECIDE that a song is finished. In it he says “There is no “perfect”, there’s only “finished.”
Facts 💯
@@hadookin47 let’s not get producers and content creators confused now
Great beats are plenty. But striking lightning by having the right artist and beat at the same time makes it legendary.
My favorite producer is madlib. He figured out a long time ago if the loop sounds good, sometimes just leave it
I think Madlib is the most skilled regarding creating loops. He somehow knows exactly how to use a sample to its full capacity and capability.
@@DubbudhaHe completes it so well with texture/sound design
Mad villiany is straight gas
A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
this statement is wrong because, for example, take an acapella song. There is nothing to take away from the beat because there is nothing in the beat, would that mean that the perfect beat is no beat?
cornball@@crisant.
@@ramno32fr wtf is bro saying 😭😭😭 acapella doesnt have a beat in the first place
U gotta make what serves the song/album/project. Some beats on an album can be super simple, whereas other beats need to be musically dynamic.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication!
I'm here to learn sensei
Lesson 1: never eat jello while sitting in a tree
@@NavieD instructions unclear I nailed jello to the tree
@@goodfella1605was it the left side of the tree? If not you are safe the left side is poisonous
You called?
Still Tippin will forever be legendary. Im.a big fan of the 2005 Houston hip hop wave.
But from the jump, I figured simplicity and slowing down a sample to get a different vibe is the point.
That song was a staple of my childhood
Man I love this dude right here
I love you too
Good beats make your head nod. Itsnot about what fills up your Pro Tools screen
Can you talk about Tyler’s production ? Thanks man and great video
I did have a video on him that I finished but I deleted it. Maybe I should make it again
@@NavieDid really love to. Tyler’s production is one of my favorite of all time
That's the only proper pronunciation of Antoine de Saint-Exupéry name. Thank you for dropping this knowledge Navie!
Super cool video, producers need to remember whether they wanna impress other producers or focus on what gets the ppl moving
Restarted producing after 4 months and been overproducing layering 4/5 melodic tracks over drums then being hurt when the reviews are cluttered muddy mixes. Simplicity is key!!
Damn dude. You really got a gift on your research! Me and my wife are loving your content!
bro lets be real, Still Tippin beat and Its All About the Benjamin beats are the type of beats you would delete when making it lol
You’ve been helping me so much since I started my journey with this stuff since about like, 6 months ago? Thanks a lot for these videos Navie I really appreciate the help bro.
Stay ambitious and u will be just fine
i seriously thought about this a week ago......as a newbie producer i thought tht adding a bunch of elements here and there and exaggerating a beat without arranging it properly was not a good idea and this made me doubt myself and it reminded me tht most of the og beats were simple and well arranged....this video made me convince the thoughts i had
Havoc’s beats followed the same principles. One slowed sample and a loop, shook one’s is one of the best beats ever imo and that’s it. Never thought about it like that.
Yeah, you just need a strong core idea
Every Hip Hop fan with ears considers Shook One's on the best beats ever, it's not just your opinion.
@@HypnoticHollywoodChill bro
@@HypnoticHollywoodit’s always an opinion.
@@NavieD About the strong core idea, may I ask if my unfinished beat already sounds distinct, what can I do to make it sound stimulating? it's 2023 and hyperpop is everywhere, of course it would be nice to have a song that you'd want to listen to over and over again and more than once, sometimes it sounds distinct but it sounds so unfulfilling, any advice?
thank you
This is a video that everyone should watch
Can you please do a beat making overexplained video about 4 :44?
That's a great idea. I will add it to my list
@@NavieD 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you
“And freak it he did” 😂😂😂😂 I’m weakk
A matter of oppinion greatest beats
honestly! i learned so much from you Navie. Im still amateur AF but you showed me so many good tricks to improve. I never wanted to become a pro or anything. Im just making beats for my own entertainment and its really cool to see some of the tricks the pros use. Thanks for all, and i hope you keep continuing to show some of the magic :)
🙏 I am happy I've been able to help you my friend.
That still tipping beat is one of my favorites 🔥
I needed to hear this, thanks Gawd 🙏🏽
nice, i love you honesty ❤️
Thank u for all your tips Navie, really helps me to be a better producer
Great video. The structure of it reflects the message, I think. Refine your core idea, deliver it, and then stop. Inspiring in its implications too. I really enjoyed this.
This needs to become a whole new series on CZcams
damn!! thanks for the realisation
🙏
Jake One is a master of keeping it simple
This was awesome man!
Great video
Very good video I just woke up. Navie you should do a video about Daringer and his secrets.
Could you please make a video on Monte Booker's production? pretty please
this was great!
Nice
Yessirreee
Been producing for about 12 years and have watched thousands of videos on production and this series you have going is my all time favorite by far. glad I found your page keep up the good work man!
That all about the benjis is hypnotizing.
Love this bro thank you so much!!
Cool video, as always, cheers!
A milli was a banger and a half. Made me have a nostalgia trip
For some reason this video made me immensely happy I make my own beats. Good bad or whatever I’m in the drivers seat. Honestly don’t know if I’ma ever make beats for anyone else but me from now on. Good luck out there guys
Thank you man. Keep going
keep going , take a break when you feel burned out
How come you dont want to make beats for anyone else????
@@jessicaheller3076 I feel like I don’t want the headache of dealing with some of these Artists and I can do a better job than most. But I would still work with people I vibe with.
Good vid
I appreciate u 🔥
This is the first thing I learned from you months ago when I came across your videos for the first time 💪🏿
I made a beat for an underground artist using only FL Keys in FL Studio (Bodah Revy - Suffer), going back to making simple beats now haha
"Antoine De Eh Push Push" LMAO
That's my best attempt at french
Many thanks Navie for these tips 🙏🏻
Great explanation love your videos and break downs of these beats
Where busyworksbeats at?
Lol wassup with that anyway
@@KVY_MAJOR I don’t know but it’s tasteless.
🤣
😂
man you're so Benzema...love
Beautiful simplicity
Thank You 🙏🏾
I love your channel. Much thanks.
Bangladesh bangs the best
once i learned cream was just chops with a kick behind it that changed a lot
thanks for the guilt relief verbal care package i going minimal tonight me thinks
Simple works when the sound has character. A lot of VST’s lack character.
Navie please do RZA
It's on the list!
@@NavieD FINALLY THANK U NAVIE
Needed to hear this today, cheers man! 🔥
Excellent video. Great examples
you're so knowledgeable thank you :)
I so needed to see this.
Will we ever get a havoc beat tutorial
this is amazing! I am so glad you put "Still Tippin" on this list! That is still one of my favs! Putting TX on the map! peace and love from Japan
THAT BOY NAVIE D
It be me
You should do a video on the song “death bed” or the creator powfu
I never liked “all about the Benjamins” but I do understand the allure and I appreciate the creativity.
Best content on here, I've subscribed now I'm waiting for my great producer skill😂
Edits rly good twin
I need to watch this video thank you 🙏🏾
its the video that was supposed to be in the description of that other video but wasnt. yay
Great video Sir.
Great Beats 🚀
please do monte booker
Simplicity! 👌🏾
Thank you so much for this Navie. 💚
We are not worthy! 😂😂😂 Thank you for this video!!!
if definitely ruined a couple beats because i added too many sounds. sometimes looking at 2 or 3 tracks and only 5 mixer tracks looks so bare and unfinished im used to 50 tracks and 50 mixer slots 😅
It's normal to be a maximalist at first when choosing elements (sound selection), but having a song sound 'distinct' I guess is what Navie meant when he talks about 'strong core idea'.
Dope Video ❤🙌
I've always been less is more kinda guy but it always felt like it wasnt enough
2:08
nuff said
LMAO antoine de es push spush.. i died
Now you makin' me feel guilty for making hard and complex beats 😂😭
I wonder what would happen if you tried simplifying
@@NavieD Nah man.. I think imma stay with my beats. I think we getting too lazy now.. Gotta keep grinding and rack that perfectionism and an expectation from yourself a little higher, y'know?
Curious question: Why does adding more to a beat make a video more watchable/entertaining?
I would think learning how the best beats are made or at least the foundation of them would be the point of watching a beat-making guide.
Like you mentioned, the example beats had other techniques to keep the sound varied and add interest without ruining the foundation (the snares replaced sounds, not added - maintaining the simplicity).
Wouldn't including such things in beat tutorials make them "watchable"?
Also, thanks for this video, exposing a big tip for everyone with some big time artists as examples.
🔥🔥🔥
Crazy, I just recently discovered this over the past month. I been making simple beats and they sound so much more better. 🎉
I think this is a natural progression for most producers
such a dope video
5:28 this kinda sounds like electric relaxation by atcq tbh
Dope!
the thing i like about music is, there are rules. our ears percieve things in specific ways, so we cant change much. not saying there isnt room for diversity, but i just like how direct the avenue is. compared to videogame programming, this stuff is a breath of fresh air.
I needed to hear this soooo bad 🎉
Thank you man, i made a really fire 10/10 (for my standard) beat yesterday in like 1 hour with only drums, a synth and a legato saw but i kep on adding shit and it just got really bad
that guilt is crazy that time the song sound crazy after
6:50 Actually the alchemist said he felt guilty with his beat "the realest" because it was the one that the rappers chose but he felt guilty because there wasn't too much of production it was just two loops
This is so true. Sometimes even adding a second chord let alone a whole 4 chord progression can really ruin a beat and make it feel somehow more monotonous
Dawg my uncle had the original of still tippin😭
I first thought the common thing was sampling.