I personally dont believe in regret in passing up on beats. If you dont feel it, you dont feel it. It needs to happen organically. What happens, happens.
Exactly these videos to me really doesn’t make sense. What’s hot for a person doesn’t mean it’ll hot for another person is all about what the artiste vibes or ideas the artiste have for a song
So glad he passed on 'Dark fantasy' because Ye set that beat on fire 🔥🔥🔥 I was listening to it earlier today and it's levels ahead of alot of tracks being put out today
I think it’s kinda unfair to say it’s a blunder for an artist to pass on a beat. Picking the right instrumental for you is something that your soul vibes with, you can’t force a good a song.
in context Meiko Kaji sued RZA for the sample usage but RZA denied this and began suing her and they probably settled out of court of the sample issue.
It sounds like Drake's version of Beat 3 features additional production by the great Noah 40. You can hear it on the outro of Paris Morton Music 😎👍🏼 Thank you for the insight again my friend. It is cool to know these stories.
Navie could you do a video on the ghost pop tape please🙏 I think it would be interesting to understand how Peggy managed to deliver such a eerie and depressing message through his music. (I’m saying it now because it just got remastered!!)
Drake also passed on J Coles “Mo Money” beat off of Born Sinner. Apparently Cole wasnt going to use that beat because Drake was working on it but Cole got the green light to use the beat on some last minute situation and ended up putting it on his album.
Naive I need help if you can. On Drake's 'HYFR' there's a constant chord repeating in back, commonly called "pedal point" or a "drone". How is it mixed? When I try it it doesn't work and just gets very grating on the ear 😢
13 years later and I did not know that Dark Fantasy was a sample 😱 I know that album in and out, how was it not in the credits??? You gotta sample snitch please!!!! I need to hear the original
Gatekeeping a sample is everything wrong with hip-hop. That's when it becomes stealing because you took something that doesn't belong to you and kept it only for yourself. As a Middle Eastern it also annoys me how much Arabic music they sample without ever shouting out or paying respect to any of the original artists and then gatekeep so the original doesn't even get extrra listens. These are shady practices that ruined the genre and I blame everyone for allowing it.
why is "sample snitching" seen as bad thing? I'm genuinely curious, is it because it can cause legal problems if the sample is known? Is it simply just gatekeeping like you said or is there a legitimate reason behind it?
@@onatkd533 I believe it's just legal issues, some samples can belong to international/foreign giants that can easily sue someone for thousands to millions of dollars.
@@onatkd533gotta know the culture. In the 80’s and 90’s getting a sample cleared was more strict. That’s part of the point of crate digging, to find something unrecognizable. One so it sounds different and two so you don’t have to worry bout clearing it. Especially in a time where originality was everything. So if you sample snitching you fucking my money up and giving niggas a chance to sample what I did.
@@acgthamcThat argument about “the culture” sucks because if it’s a matter of someone not being able to afford to clear the sample (like back then), then that’s reasonable. But this is Rza, Pete Rock, and Kanye, they definitely could’ve afforded it. They cleared all the other samples on this album, they just didn’t do this one. Same thing with alchemist, he has enough money to clear it, he just doesn’t because he’s stingy
@@Er8outeir-rb4tc back in that time? No they probably couldn’t afford it. And it’s not that deep. The mystery is part of the culture and it make other producers try to match or find the pocket they found. I just learned like a month ago that the shook ones sample was a piano. I could’ve went my whole life not knowing the sample and been fine
On the Aston Martin music song Drake did have his own version, i actually still have it in my library and jam it on occasion i was always finding the leaks of stuff way before it came out lol.
about “gatekeeping.”: while it’s true that this is “no longer the 90s,” Navie’s choice to share the source’s audio without saying more is a respectable balance of professionalism/honoring a sense of confidentiality amongst fellow musicians, and acting as a source of musical education. i am learning so much from Navie’s videos, it never crossed my mind to criticize him for not doing sobering he wasn’t comfortable with!
I pray we one day get to hear Wu Tang Clan's "Once upon a time in Shoulin". Martin the Villain once played it during a Livestream and there was a beat with a 300 movie sample that ripped my head off. RZA is a genius.
What's the issue with sample snitching? Forgive my ignorance, I'm not a producer or really know nothing about producing music at all but I love listening to music.
almost all of the air instruments are underrated i think just because of their age..but man are they good... the riser..loom ..velvet...all of them are fire and so cheap
Finally some good content about drake thats isnt straight hating.. a lot of youtubers are wasting their talented by going on drske tirsdes because they-know the incels of the internet will eat it up Not even a huge drake fan but i love deep dives on hip hop but the whole *look like at me im special i dont like something mainstream* thing is just getting annoying
In no way is this to undermine or mock you at all, but the sample snitched on itself when I used shamaz lmao. I'm not a producer so I can't do anything with it, but cool to see the sample came from something completely different than what I thougt
I watched a few of your videos and liked ‘em. But, brotha…when you hit that “no sample snitchin’” line, I couldn’t hit “subscribe” button fast enough!! That’s deep old school respect, right there. That’s a Golden Age era DJ/Producer protocol!! Great stuff, brotha!
Navie, please tell the story of J.Cole producing beats especially the one where he produced a song for Jay Z - Brookylns on the way. THATS A CLASSIC and Jay passed on it.
They don't reject them, they copy/remake them for future use when the beat maker feels like the beat is wack and has forgotten about it few years later or months
I actually love the beat to Ashton Martin Music all artist was on their game, and I don't know maybe it's because my beats have a similar vibe that I dig it
you really streisand'd that sample in dark fantasy lol, if you had just silently not mentioned it you wouldn't have everyone in the comments tattling about it
I personally dont believe in regret in passing up on beats. If you dont feel it, you dont feel it. It needs to happen organically. What happens, happens.
facts
Exactly these videos to me really doesn’t make sense. What’s hot for a person doesn’t mean it’ll hot for another person is all about what the artiste vibes or ideas the artiste have for a song
@@socanation2076yo be fair plenty of artists have regretted letting beats go...but I feel u
rappers picking beats they don't like is some wierdo shi
Couldn't agree more!!!
Besides if Drake had taken the beat, there is no telling if the made song would be anymore successful than it with Kanye
So glad he passed on 'Dark fantasy' because Ye set that beat on fire 🔥🔥🔥 I was listening to it earlier today and it's levels ahead of alot of tracks being put out today
Drake is the type of guy to say oopsie when he rejects a good beat.
Lmao
Drake after realising the beat he rejected is now a hit song : "embarassing"
ollolo
And it continues lol
Drake a gangsta! Quit playing with Aubrey! 😂😂😂
Name of the sample: Meiko Kaji - Wandering Ginza Butterfly 1972. Easy
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bro looked it up
Never heard of sample snitchin
@@CaptainMizuki I used Shazam app
I think it’s kinda unfair to say it’s a blunder for an artist to pass on a beat. Picking the right instrumental for you is something that your soul vibes with, you can’t force a good a song.
The Main Sample In The Dark Fantasy Beat Is Meiko Kaji - Wandering Ginza Butterfly
in context Meiko Kaji sued RZA for the sample usage but RZA denied this and began suing her and they probably settled out of court of the sample issue.
Y'All are violating, straight up and down!!! (Premo voice)
Bro stop sample snitchin.
@@johndoe6189stfu. Stop gatekeeping samples THAT WAS ALREADY USED.
@@johndoe6189 why, whats the downside? i found the original sample in like 3 minutes
dark fantasy's sample is meiko kaji wandering ginza butterfly if anyone wanted to know
That synth at 6:30 goes hard , I wish I heard it more in beats nowadays, the 2010s went crazy!
Hahah I was never a big fan
@@NavieD 😁 I’ve used that exact lead in some of my recent beats but my beats sound nothing like those old beats
We’re you a fan of the early chief Keef futuristic beats ? They used those leads pretty nicely !
@@XX-fh1luchief Keef been on this hyperpop wave since like 2014
Same with I'm One One.
your videos are really cool. thanks for the time you spend to the details.
Not sure why you're gatekeeping where the sample has been shown off before its from Meiko Kaji - Wandering Ginza Butterfly
It sounds like Drake's version of Beat 3 features additional production by the great Noah 40. You can hear it on the outro of Paris Morton Music 😎👍🏼 Thank you for the insight again my friend. It is cool to know these stories.
Thanks for watching O!
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I Love this Kind of Music History. And the Aston Martin Remake gave me so chilled Vibes. Again a Great Video 💯💯💯
Drake did make his own song. Its called Paris Morton Music. I get what you say with the Aston Martin type synths. But it works perfect on that beat.
"Plus I got them wedding ring flows/That engaging shit" 🔥🔥🔥
That dark fantasy beat too intense for drake in 09
What about a tutorial on Drake's old beats?
He had some incredible joints very hard to copy or recreate, like the "Worst Behavior" beat
I was actually thinking about it in my DJ Dahi video
That nothing was the same era was a lot of detail production unfortunately, that relationship soured
@@SpeezyOTBdetail turned out to be a scumbag so probably for the best
@@SpeezyOTBYeahh after the beat down in drake mansion 😂😂
@@SpeezyOTBIt looks like Detail only produced 2 songs though.
Drake never rejected 'Beat 3' it was used in his song Paris Morton Music on his album Care Package.
6:17 I miss the synth sound😢
Everything sounded so much bigger then just a song‼️
hahah it does make the song sound bigger, you're right
kanye rejected drake from the beat due to the clash with pusha t somewhere in ''its almost dry'' kanye has a verse where he is talking about
Got it!
@@NavieD man. While we on it, can you make any samples regarding video on It's Almost Dry
This single came out weeks before Daytona and is most of the reason Drake targeted Ye in the beef. Think of his opening line on What Would Meek Do.
a video from navie is so refreshing like a mint!
Drake made Paris Morton Music with that Aston Martin Music beat. It was on mixtapes back then, and he eventually released it on Care Package.
great video!
subscribed for this video!
1:29 Meiko Kaji - Gincho Watadori
Navie could you do a video on the ghost pop tape please🙏 I think it would be interesting to understand how Peggy managed to deliver such a eerie and depressing message through his music. (I’m saying it now because it just got remastered!!)
I liked and enjoyed the excellent content.
Drake also passed on J Coles “Mo Money” beat off of Born Sinner. Apparently Cole wasnt going to use that beat because Drake was working on it but Cole got the green light to use the beat on some last minute situation and ended up putting it on his album.
Another real cool vid! :)
That “ Aston Martin music beat “ was on a Drake solo song. It was released on the care package album.
Underrated channel
Shazam picked that sample right on up from the little snippet in the video. These boys be diggin' hard.
Naive I need help if you can. On Drake's 'HYFR' there's a constant chord repeating in back, commonly called "pedal point" or a "drone". How is it mixed? When I try it it doesn't work and just gets very grating on the ear 😢
13 years later and I did not know that Dark Fantasy was a sample 😱 I know that album in and out, how was it not in the credits??? You gotta sample snitch please!!!! I need to hear the original
meiko kaji, on her 1972 album, first song
Gatekeeping a sample is everything wrong with hip-hop. That's when it becomes stealing because you took something that doesn't belong to you and kept it only for yourself.
As a Middle Eastern it also annoys me how much Arabic music they sample without ever shouting out or paying respect to any of the original artists and then gatekeep so the original doesn't even get extrra listens.
These are shady practices that ruined the genre and I blame everyone for allowing it.
why is "sample snitching" seen as bad thing? I'm genuinely curious, is it because it can cause legal problems if the sample is known? Is it simply just gatekeeping like you said or is there a legitimate reason behind it?
@@onatkd533 I believe it's just legal issues, some samples can belong to international/foreign giants that can easily sue someone for thousands to millions of dollars.
@@onatkd533gotta know the culture. In the 80’s and 90’s getting a sample cleared was more strict. That’s part of the point of crate digging, to find something unrecognizable. One so it sounds different and two so you don’t have to worry bout clearing it. Especially in a time where originality was everything. So if you sample snitching you fucking my money up and giving niggas a chance to sample what I did.
@@acgthamcThat argument about “the culture” sucks because if it’s a matter of someone not being able to afford to clear the sample (like back then), then that’s reasonable. But this is Rza, Pete Rock, and Kanye, they definitely could’ve afforded it. They cleared all the other samples on this album, they just didn’t do this one. Same thing with alchemist, he has enough money to clear it, he just doesn’t because he’s stingy
@@Er8outeir-rb4tc back in that time? No they probably couldn’t afford it. And it’s not that deep. The mystery is part of the culture and it make other producers try to match or find the pocket they found. I just learned like a month ago that the shook ones sample was a piano. I could’ve went my whole life not knowing the sample and been fine
3:41 does anyone know what that break is called? Ive been looking for it for literal AGES
On the Aston Martin music song Drake did have his own version, i actually still have it in my library and jam it on occasion i was always finding the leaks of stuff way before it came out lol.
about “gatekeeping.”:
while it’s true that this is “no longer the 90s,” Navie’s choice to share the source’s audio without saying more is a respectable balance of professionalism/honoring a sense of confidentiality amongst fellow musicians, and acting as a source of musical education.
i am learning so much from Navie’s videos, it never crossed my mind to criticize him for not doing sobering he wasn’t comfortable with!
Damn, I didn't know Karim Benzema knew so much about beats...
The synths worked for some beats I wish some producers would use them again
Navie can you breakdown what happened or is different between Bryson Tiller’s-Exchange and Deja Vu
Anybody know what that sample is?
How TF did you find that dark fantasy sample?
Meiko Kaji - Wandering Ginza Butterfly 1972. Easy
Yo, My grandma loves you, Navie!
She told me that your drumkits are insane.. she be cooking.
Your grandma is a swell lady
the sample was 銀蝶渡り鳥(東映映画「銀蝶渡り鳥」より) by Meiko Kaji shi was so ez too find
Yo nav, please tell me how to make beats like Araabmuzik! Thank you :)
I pray we one day get to hear Wu Tang Clan's "Once upon a time in Shoulin". Martin the Villain once played it during a Livestream and there was a beat with a 300 movie sample that ripped my head off. RZA is a genius.
No one is gunna know they are at that time, such a waste
Another beat that a producer rejected drake on was trance by metro boomin on his heroes and villains album.
What's the issue with sample snitching?
Forgive my ignorance, I'm not a producer or really know nothing about producing music at all but I love listening to music.
Is that FL studio?
Dark Fantasy sounds similar to Tracy Lee’s, Keep your hands high.
Drake did release his song on the third beat; "Paris Morton Music" (my fav drake song)
It is always a pleasure to see the videos of this handsome man with huge arms.
6:17 always hated this sound too in 2005-2010 beats lol
almost all of the air instruments are underrated i think just because of their age..but man are they good... the riser..loom ..velvet...all of them are fire and so cheap
These beats are dope, but Drake has a great ear in picking beats if you listen to his discography.
i’ve always thought this. his ear for production has been unbelievable for years and his discography shows it.
Finally some good content about drake thats isnt straight hating.. a lot of youtubers are wasting their talented by going on drske tirsdes because they-know the incels of the internet will eat it up
Not even a huge drake fan but i love deep dives on hip hop but the whole *look like at me im special i dont like something mainstream* thing is just getting annoying
Drake did a full song to Aston Martin music. The song is called, Paris Morton Music It’s on his care package album.
In no way is this to undermine or mock you at all, but the sample snitched on itself when I used shamaz lmao. I'm not a producer so I can't do anything with it, but cool to see the sample came from something completely different than what I thougt
I watched a few of your videos and liked ‘em. But, brotha…when you hit that “no sample snitchin’” line, I couldn’t hit “subscribe” button fast enough!! That’s deep old school respect, right there. That’s a Golden Age era DJ/Producer protocol!! Great stuff, brotha!
Drake used the JUSTICE LEAGUE beat and released it as paris morton music
drake did have a song using the ashton martin music beat. i know it’s on soundcloud idk about apple music and spotify
Where do you get Xpand for $20?
It goes on sale very often. May wanna wait until Black Friday
Navie, please tell the story of J.Cole producing beats especially the one where he produced a song for Jay Z - Brookylns on the way. THATS A CLASSIC and Jay passed on it.
*insanely
Where do you get xpand for 20$ when I look it up it’s like 200😭
drake didn't pass up the beats...his ghost writer did
1train beat is one of the coldest beats ever
xpand for 20$??? where, id love to buy it
Respect for not sample snitching
Thank you my friend
The sample: Meiko Kaji - Wandering Ginza Butterfly 1972. Easy
@@arnasaleksandravicius2311😭😭😭😭
why is "sample snitching" a bad thing? I'm genuinely curious, is it because it can cause legal problems if the sample is known or something?
@@onatkd533 Not sure, I love trying to re-create songs and I find it super annoying when I can't find the samples
Great new video to wake up to!
Do you enjoy waking up to Navie D in the morning?
no sample snitchin ...respect
1 train beat was so crazy first time i heard it
Wait, I heard Paris Morton music wayyyy before I heard aston Martin music lol and that drake and hov song is called “light up” not “light it up” lol
Drake’s full version of Aston Martin music can be found as Paris Morton music
found the sample instantly but i understand
Dark Fantasy must be my favorite Kanye song.
Actually there’s another story about drake being rejected by a producer. Metro working on his last album rejected drake’s verse.
Do Lil Wayne next
They don't reject them, they copy/remake them for future use when the beat maker feels like the beat is wack and has forgotten about it few years later or months
Drake’s own version of Ashton Martin Music was called Paris Morton Music
Drake was actually gonna use the Lift Yourself beat. Kanye released it before he could to troll him.
I actually love the beat to Ashton Martin Music all artist was on their game, and I don't know maybe it's because my beats have a similar vibe that I dig it
The Drake version of Ashton Martin Music is Paris Morton Music. So it was released.
what's the deal with sample snitching?
Ye is petty for not letting Drake use that beat 😂 then dropping it the way he did
My man you didn’t snitch but you dry snitched by actually playing the original.🤦🏿♂️😂
Didn’t drake end up using the 3rd beat as “Paris Morton Music” on his “Care Package” Album?
“Free Spirt”, not “ Paris Morton Music”
Drake rejecting the Aston Martin beat is crazy, considering
Drake release Paris Morton Music on Care Package years ago.
Oooh, good point. That is a goof up on my part
de 3rd beat he used on paris morton music
NAVIE! MY BOY! IT'S 7:30 ON THE EAST COAST GIVE ME SOME TIME TO BRUSH MY TEETH BEFORE CLASS! DID I NEED TO BRING MY DOG FOR THIS LESSON?
Your dog has urinated on my pants. Detention!
you really streisand'd that sample in dark fantasy lol, if you had just silently not mentioned it you wouldn't have everyone in the comments tattling about it
Can you teach me to producer like you?
Bro look like Kareem benzema
Shazam: Am I a Joke to You?
DjShadow deserves an episode.
Man...are there any industry beats that dont use a sample as the main part of the song? 🤦♂️
1:22 its actually not sample snitching, the sample got spotted and they almost got sued but somehow rza/kanye convinced them it wasnt the sample lmfao
Wdym sample snitching?? It literally has the sample on the genius lyrics page
One of the most famous ghost writer reader in history.
If you’re looking for the sample it’s Japanese. Just Shazam it