How To Install a Mustang Export Brace Episode 299 Autorestomod
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- čas přidán 11. 01. 2017
- If your Mustang or Cougar Export Brace won't fit, it probably isn't the brace, more likely it's your car! Don't open up the holes in the brace, widen the shock towers! We show you how to correctly install your export brace if you are having problems.
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I gotta say I really enjoy watching an "old guy" pass down his knowledge to a younger guy who's so willing to learn from him.
That guy. He is a great young man. Both on and off the camera he has been a BIG help on the show.
2 years later and this video just helped me out on my 65 coupe! Luckily mine bolted right up!
I noticed that they didn't remove the old brace mounts. Did you?
The amount of times I watched this video to prepare myself for the struggle of installing the export brace and Montecarlo bar was ridiculous. Plus the 3 months I held off on doing this part of the project was ridiculous. Haha both were installed on my 65 with no fuss. I guess it helped I had the car on jack stands for months?? I'm not sure but still appreciate the priceless wisdom shared by Autorestomod! Thank you!
Sometimes I go on ridiculously easy and sometimes you have cars like cams that are so worn out you have to spend all the effort we did to get the export brace to fit. Thanks for the kind words. And I'm glad that yours went on great.
my favorite Autorestomod video. I watch it just for the entertainment value.
Saw your a week or so ago and it convinced me to install the export brace. I have a 66 Mustang Coupe (289/4 speed/ AC/ PS) that I purchased new in 1966 and restored it a couple of years ago but put in a 302 4V. I have always been disappointed in the steering. Put the export bracket in today. The Shock towers were about 1/4" too close together. I used a porta-power like you did to spread them and then worked in the cowl bolts like you did. Your video saved me a great amount of worry and work. I could not have done it without you great video. Keep up the good work.
We are so glad we could help! We love hearing stories like that, along with the ones where people tell us we are stupid. Keeps us level. LOL
Original owner?! Wow! Did your steering improve?
@@royboy3597 Hard to believe, but i have had the 66 Mustang longer than my wife (We recently celebrated 50th Anniversary)! The steering did improve. Car seems to wander less now and steering feels stiffer.
@@tomdoran5472 OK thanks 👍
I just installed an export brace on my 65 mustang fastback. It was similar to this but I put the hydraulic ram futher forward. It spread just fine and the brace fell into place. It was a job but worth the effort. My car handles a lot better now!
So nice to find this gem of a video! My 67 460 had these braces on at one time, hoping my new ones fit right back in place. Now I know what to do if they don't. Thanks. Cheers from Motown.
"I've never before seen that level of pucker"...I love it!
Thanks for sharing this, I have the same issues on my car and now I know what I need to do to fix it!
Great video on how to do this. Thanks guys
Really enjoyed the video, i have a 68 Cougar and have the Export Brace N Monte Carlo bar ordered, just waiting for them to get here, just hoping mine is not as bad as yours was Cam, lmao Thanks Guys!!!!
Cam's is by far the worst I have ever seen.
Thank you for the tips.
You are welcome!
It's amazing how soft they can be, and different between cars.
This was the worst I've seen but Scott at National Parts Depot said he has seen worse than that one.
Great video and it will be very helpful as I will be doing this to my 66 but I also would like to see where the proper placement for the Monte Carlo bar is and how your determine placement.
We will be jumping into that on our new show Manic Mechanic.
I got lucky, 65 mustang 50 years old, purchased export brace and installed it removed the shock tops, removed the stock brace, set the new export brace and everything was in line. dropped original bolts and was done in 15 minutes. my stang had rust top down, undercarriage was very light surface rust only, repaired the rusty parts and now have 86,000 miles on it and still going strong as it is the only vehicle I own
Very nice!
The original export brace found on the Shelby’s and mustangs exported as in the T-5 the fire wall also received a reinforcement angle iron welded in, thus also providing additional stiffness to the firewall mount.
Mentioned this to my brother on his 1992 Mustang when he got his strut tower brace. His style had to have holes drilled and cowl removed, very flimsy sheet metal. My style, Maximum Motorsports, uses bolts through the pinch welds which is 2 layers of thin metal, making a little stronger. He wound up cutting a, large as would fit, 1/4 inch plate in on the inner cowl side. Maybe not necessary, but, it can't hurt.
Dont for get an episode on c6 please 😃 i have a 66 galaxie 500 convertible. Thank you for all your help so far !
We may be doing just that when we go for the Gear Vendors Overdrive.
Great series guys! One question on this export brace install - what do you do with the welded in bracket that remains on the shock tower where the original brace was mounted? Thanks for the videos.
You can cut it off or just leave it. Shelby left it.
Why didn't you also install the reinforcement bracket at the firewall under the export brace? I'm working on a '66 Fastback GT and plan on using all the parts with the kit.
Awesome video I Wil definitely use it but, I whould have loosen the fire wall botls again an then make them tire again to release stress
Good idea!
Wow what you guys had to do to install the brace was interesting for sure.
I'm a little puzzled however .. my 67 convertible was in a minor accident and the LH side front frame rails is about 1/2" out of whack. So my question is if a car needs to be bent/pushed "back into position to get the xbrace to fit does this mean the brace will have to with stand lots of pressure at all times? It seems to me a " frame/suspension adjustment would in order. Realizing the brace is holding in place. Hope this makes sense
Thank you
It can. If there is eveidence of an accident that has gone unfixed I would recommend a trip to the frame machine. In the case of our hardtop the bend wasn't that much...it just felt like it. And, in essence we did what a frame show would have done.
Great episode on the export brace. I am doing a total tear down and bought one just to make sure the spacing was correct and keep everything tight while I replace the aprons and core support. The Scott Drake export brace is great - extra thick. You didn't do the monte carlo bar though and I was hoping to see that too. What I found on mine is that the bolt holes on the aprons didn't line up with the bolt holes on the inside of the monte carlo bar. What is the right way to address that? Enlarge the holes on the apron or the monte carlo bar? Thanks.
The Monte we got in was defective. We will be doing a Manic Mechanic episode on that. We'd enlarge the Monte holes since the stresses are not as great on the part as the Export Brace.
Thanks guys, I just put mine in and with the help of jack stand, crow bar, and alignment tool, and this video. Mine went in easier than yours :)
GLAD! Cams was one of the worst I have seen.
Just curious if it would help if you put the porta power in place before you remove the old brace and maybe the new one would go on a bit easier. Maybe not but I am curious if that might help because that would possibly keep the original component alignment in place.
Not sure, there's more than one way to skin a cat for sure LOL.
When I installed mine I put the Jack under the center of the engine on the crossmember...jacked it up and waited... it took 24 hours for the shock Towers to spread open
Sometimes it takes a while for them to spread...Cam and I are impatient.
What about the Monte Carlo bar?
those old car were built on tolerances of +/- 1/8" hard to get anything to fit perfect
Please do an episode on repairing a transmission on a 67 mustang coupe.
My mustang's transmission is not working and I really need a visual aid on how to fix it.
Thanks you guys are great.
We are planning to do a rebuild on a C4 soon.
AutoRestoMod Muscle Car Resto and Modifications Great!
I hope it will be your next video you upload on youtube.
Btw I couldn't have replaced the wiring harness on my mustang without your videos.
Thanks again guys.
That rebuild will probably be later this spring. We have to come up with the kit.
Ok
Did you do all of this with the front end of the car sitting on the ground or up in the air with the tires hanging?
I prefer to do it on the ground so that the chassis is at full rest. If the car is in the air, the only way to get maximum droop is to jack at the engine crossmember--not safe. If you put jackstands at the framerails the car will settle back down anyway. Either way, if the car is as whacked out as this one was, you will be using a port-a-power.
Did this car ever get an alignment?
How far out was it when you started? Mine seem to be 5/8" too close. Is that likely too much to fix?
You might start looking for other damage to the front end. I don't really know how much is "too much". It is already out of spec, so I'd personally try and get it to come back in with the portapower.
I've got the front suspension of my '65 all tore apart. Figured the stock bracing was enough but after doing some reading it sounds like it might be worth the time to install one of these.
I actually got the same monte carlo bar yesterday and have the opposite problem. I've got some room on each side of it. The car is sitting on the front frame rails though. Im sure that has something to do with it. Figured I would wait to drill the holes until ive got the front suspension loaded at least.
Yes. The car should be on the suspension. We'd put the Export Brace in then look at the bar.
i used a ratchet strap on the export brace bring the two sides together left enough space to slide the strap out.
2 questions.....
1- if the monte carlo bar fits, won't the export brace fit?
2- can't you measure the distance between the holes on the export brace, and compare it to the measurement of the existing bolts on the shock tower before taking anything apart? Then you know roughly how far off it is.
ok , that was the export brace ,i got a monte carlo bar first ,it dropped right in perfectly ,,i'm wondering if my M/C bar fit good will i have a problem fitting the export brace in?
Most likely you will be OK.
yup , i was prepped for jacking the body up ,but nooo,, mine fit so good :)
I jack the front torque boxes it goes right together for me
That's awesome! Sometimes that's not the case as in the situation with our 66 lol
How come the monte carlo brace does not attach directly to the shock tower, it appears that they sit forward of the tower but maybe they bolt the the flares of the tower
The Monte bolts just forward of the tower. This is due mostly to the distributor placement.
My 1965 Falcon doesn't have the bolts that mount the OEM brace to the firewall. Would you guys have a solution for me or have you changed an export brace on a 64/65 Falcon?
The falcon had a weld in export brace. It was not removable. If it is missing then someone cut it out. You can get a Falcon bolt in brace from Autokrafters: www.autokrafters.com
@@AutoRestoMod thank you. Is it easy to remove the welded brace and install a bolt on brace?
Being a 66 vert, I got it with the two support bars in the engine compt that run from the firewall to each apron. (Passenger side pictured). These apparently are only installed on convertibles. After I got the car, I installed an export brace and a Monte carlo bar, requiring removal of the two convertible-only support braces. I don't think this will be an issue, since the new export brace and the Monte carlo bar appear to be substantial support. I'd like to get "expert" opinions though. Has anyone else with a convertible removed these supports? Any potential issues? I could modify them and reinstall them, but it would be an interesting one-off that I haven't seen before.
The Export Brace will be better than the stock braces if tight. In all honesty, the original 1965 convertible braces were a Bandaid on a gunshot wound. Since they only went into the apron and had no support other than the sheet metal, the effectiveness was not great. Using the Export Brace and Monte Carlo bar will have the greatest effect on the chassis as long as the part is not sloppy on the firewall or the shock tops (opening up the holes on an Export Brace defeats the purpose of the Export Brace. We might do a Manic Mechanic on what those two parts are really supposed to be doing.
Hi, this is my 2nd comment on this video. I would like to tighten up my car, 68 convertible. I realize this is one piece of metal vs two. But does this REALLY make a big difference? Any advice from anyone would be appreciated.
I can tell you it made a big difference on my car. I didn’t believe it would since it’s a lightly driven six cylinder. A friend gave me his export brace since he replaced his with a chrome one. I unbolted the factory braces and let the car sit with jack stands under the motor mounts and the shock towers quickly spread about 5/8 of an inch total. I couldn’t believe it. It instantly created gaps between the fenders and cowl top giving me real adjustment room. So, yes it will fix a host of issues including alignment.
@@PantoPhobe-dm2fd thanks 👍
What happened to the plans for "manic mechanic" episodes?
They will start on 1.17..17. We have been kinda up against it on the personal front. But our goal is to pot one every other week right now.
Where can I buy parts for my 67 mustang? Cheap?
We shop National Parts Depot. They are competitive and they have all the stuff in stock normally. Four locations put the parts in your hands quickly.
If you get your tires from Bangkok, do you have to Thai them on?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That was way funnier to us than it shoulda been. Thanks for the laugh.
Would it make a difference if the front suspension is off?
You won't be able to button it up with the suspension off. We'd wait and do it when you have all the weight pretty much on the car.
Okay, so I should replace my suspension then try and do the export brace? I also cannot wait for the racing valance episode, as I was thinking about doing the same. Or making it a mild sleeper. Any chance of a cam upgrade? Love your videos Thanks!
Yes, we would go ahead and do the new suspension. We will finish the valance this weekend and post on 5.18.17. We'll be doing a 302 build soon. Just need to get the short block.
Awesome. Love your guys' channel.
Thanks! We Love bringing this stuff to you!
Just saying, on my 63 comet V.I.N.# ARE ON ON THE BRACE D/SIDE. MAY NOT BE SMART TO REMOVE ! IF THE # ARE THERE.
Huh, I thought they were all on the inner fender. My 1964 Falcon is.
We were supposed to buy new cars and recycle the old ones. They were supposed to build new cars we wanted to buy. Something went awry
HAHAHAHA
15:56 lol
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except....never saw the final fitment?
Kinda excited that the whole Falcon Club watched it! There isn't a Ummmm "Money Shot" but we show the final install starting at 15:56. But we neglected the money shot In our excitement over actually being able to show results we forgot.
We create playlists for for our interested members.
We'll be getting back on the '64 hardtop pretty soon with a 5-speed and 302 upgrade. Thanks for putting us on the map with our Falcon friends!
Do they make them for a 68 Falcon Futura Coupe?
Not at this time. The brake booster could and would be a problem.
I would'nt let these 2 clowns anywhere near my car!!!
Not to worry Chris, we wouldn't work on your car anyway.