Dangerous Classic Cars: The "Botched Job" on a 1965 Ford Mustang Sold By A Classic Car Flipper
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That GT 289 nonsense on the side should have been a major red flag.
Absolutely
It was pretty comical seeing that.
Straight ricer activity!👍
Obviously the buyer is totally ignorant of cars.
HAHA Yup!
Shiny paint has fooled many a person into buying basically dangerous junk.
I don’t know how. A drive around the block in that rattle trap one would have to be a complete fool to buy that pos. 😂
You are 100 percent correct. Putting "lipstick on a pig" has fooled a lot of people.
That's true, however not even the paint looks that good.
Nowadays everyone is buying over priced junk. That just gets passed from one sucker to another
I worked at a classic Mustang restoration and service shop circa 2010. A customer brought in a 65 convertible he just purchased to have some small things addressed. We lifted it on the rack and it was visually bending. The underside was spray foam and fiberglass. Unfortunately for the seller our customer was a lawyer. Within a week he had his money back. Honestly this car is beyond repair from a financial standpoint. From a shop standpoint this is a losing proposition and I wouldn't recommend working on it.
I've had a few cars bend over the years luckily they were in there way to the big scrap yard in the sky. And I absolutely agree it's not financially viable or smart to fix this one
Only way it would be viable is if a big CZcamsr took it on. That has lots of subscribers to where they'd get enough views to more than pay for their time and effort to repair. Sadly this CZcams channel doesn't have enough subscribers or likes on the video to make it popular enough for it to more than pay for itself.
A “He” bought that car, dummy.
Most 1960s Mustang convertibles will bend a little bit at the door when put on a lift. Those cars were cheaply built back then. They were a low priced ride. So 50 years later I'm not really surprised
Well at least you have a good engine and transmission
That looks like a 14 year old me fixing up my dream car with my part time bagboy budget.
Chicken wire, fiberglass and bondo. Built a 57 Chevy convert on a gas pumper 16 year old budget.
I'd rather see that then hacked in metal work any day
Sounds like you lived the same teenage years as I did 😂
Exactly!! These cars were just old junk cars in 80s and 90s. Only ones buying them were broke teenagers and guys in early 20s.
That man needs an attorney before you even start on that car
A straight-shooter with integrity and common sense. Glad your channel showed up in my feed. Time to binge-watch!
Thanks for watching
That scene in "the blues brothers" were they jump out of the bluesmobile and it completely falls apart. This cars well on the way to repeating that scene.
100% agree I'm surprised the doors close (the trunk doesn't)
Thank you for being a man with integrity and probably saving the buyer’s life.
Id never turn a bolt on that car.
Its a shit storm looking land on somebody.
I agree with what you said in the beginning, find a donor car. The person that bought this car must be stupid because you pointed out all the garbage, and yet they what to get burned some more!!! Once bitten twice shy!!! There are so many six cylinder mustangs out there today that are so cheap, it would be easy to find a donor!! Thanks for all your hard work sir!!!
Definitely needs a donor shell
Sure. So easy to find a donor for a 60’s era muscle car. 😂
A lot easier to find a decent Mustang (hundreds of thousands produced) than, let's say an AMX, Rebel, Cuda, Skylark, F-85, etc. etc. @@rolandthethompsongunner64
@@rolandthethompsongunner64 For a 1st gen mustang, it is. They made 100's of thousands, and there are clean mustang bodies around.
In the south. In the north are rare and big money for junk.
This is criminal. The person who did this work should be in prison!
They definitely shouldn't be building cars
Hot rod guy, can a person go after the seller & sue for something like this. It's a shame a person can do a thing like this. Morol of the question is money is a root of evil
@@jefflong4349 I'm sure there is some sort of recourse that could be taken
Buyer beware.
No they shouldn't. The buyer should have had it inspected first!!!
I remember buying muscle cars right after I got my driver's license, back then you'd think you got ripped off if it needed a few hundred dollars in repairs. How I would love to have any of them back, especially the 72 firebird
Im not a mechanic, so I paid for a pre-inspection. Worth every penny.
You exposed the cold hard facts to the owner. I'm not in your line of business, but in mine, I quickly learned how to politely decline jobs that were not in my best interest to do. It is all about managing expectations and fairness to you and your customers. Kept my business healthy for twenty years.
Too many shops can't turn down any work because they're broke and need that deposit. KNOWING they don't have the expertise or manpower they need to get some money out of the customer...then the car sits outside for two years.
OK, the metal work is terrible, the paint is bad, the booger welds suck, but the absolutely unforgivable part is the chrome Autozone special "GT 289" stick on letters!😆
My heart skipped a beat when I saw that 1970 or 1971 Ford Torino at the beginning. Those and the small bumper Mavericks have always captured my attention.
Damn that’s bad!! Some people have no business whatsoever building cars! God job pointing everything out and trying to bring awareness to buyers! 👍🏻
I can't believe he did not inspect this closer, as it has so many red flags it's unbelievable !!!! Thanks for sharing.
Someone got blinded by reasonably shiny paint.
You don’t even need a hoist to see all the ridiculous welds and gaps on that thing. I bought my ‘74 Charger knowing that it had some dodgy rust repairs in the ducktail area, but I KNEW it had that. The seller didn’t try to hide it, and the price I paid reflected that.
That Mustang? Holy crap, I’ve seen better cars in the wrecking yard.
Thanks for the video. You’ve got a new subscriber from Australia! 👍
Exactly, add a brand new pony interior and he was in love. Thanks for subscribing !
Buyer must've had his eyes closed
And his butt cheeks spread wide. And after that, it was a bad experience ;-)
Some ppl just get too excited and forget the red flags
Yes ,
But ...
This Type of Thing ,
PURPOSELY AND
WILLFULLY
SCAMMING / CHEATING
POOR AND EXCITED
UNSUSPECTING
PEOPLE ...
WITH COMPLETE
" BASKET CASE "
BUTCHERED
CLASSIC CARS ...
IS
ACTUALLY
NOT
FUNNY AT ALL ... !
ITS
ACTUALLY
COMPLETELY
F ' N
CRIMINAL ... !
AND
THE PREVIOUS ORIGINAL SELLER ,
AND THE SUPPOSED
" REPAIR SHOP "
OF THESE HORRIBLE / HORRENDOUS CARS ...
SHOULD ACTUALLY BE TAKEN TO COURT AND SUED BIG TIME ... !
THERE NEEDS TO BE AN
" IRON CLAD "
LAW
ESTABLISHED
AGAINST ANYONE
EVEN TRYING TO SELL / PASS OFF
SUCH
HORRIBLE AND COMPLETELY
UNSAFE
CARS AND TRUCKS
LIKE THESE ... !
I want to make a BIG Shout out out to you for your honesty, Integrity & outright decency & Passion for making this video! I am reminded how, a long time ago, a local guy bought a Hemi Cuda for huge money, and the car was so bad it was not even salvageable! Every panel was destroyed & covered. He ended up buying another body & creating a restomod! The money he spent on the car was basically thrown away! We all felt bad for him! Cars can be a steep learning curve for the uninitiated. It's not due to a lack of knowledge, not stupidity!
Great job on this video. As a former 1960 Falcon owner (or pre-production Mustang!), I can appreciate everything you found. I had an original car with 35000 miles on it and it was in my family, but a 50 to 60 year old car is going to have some structural issues especially the early Ford unibody cars and trucks. Driver side floors, cowl, subframe rust, trunk floor, rear wheel wells and on and on. That Mustang was most likely blown apart pretty far to screw it up that bad. That's the real crime. Luckily the owner was not killed driving to your garage.
Oh my Lord! I had a few body issues with my 1966 Convertible I bought in 2018 - mainly rust holes in the convertible top roof well gutter - which required some expert fabrication, respray etc. She needed a new top anyways, which I knew when I bought her. But the rest of the car was great and the engine/running gear was already a work of art. Looking at this though, my problems were miniscule. I feel for the owner - I know the feeling when you find "the car" and it speaks to you. Sad that this one was a cry for help :( You're a great bloke for caring enough to point all this out and offer the owner practical options.
As a mechanic you'd see the occasional 'flipper nightmare' roll through the shop. One guy brought in his late 60's Mustang convertible one evening for an alignment. The car looked great until I got the car up in the air and realized the rear torque boxes were completely rotted out. The rear suspension was not tied into the car and that was the 'alignment' problem. He told me he had the car redone for big money, he wanted an old car for his daily driver so he spent new car money on it. Needless to say he was pretty upset, and they will try to take it out on the guy trying to show them the problems. I tried to calm him down and remind him I didn't do anything to him, not my fault. Reminded me of this car in the video, sad story.
When it's someone's first day welding they probably shouldn't be welding a car back together 😁
Absolutely!
Yeah with a 50 amp China Freight flux core welder
My fav from Finnegan =Ray Charles welded it with his FEET!
On a 100 foot extension cord!
Yep. start out with wind chimes or bird feeders.
Very nice video and a lesson learned as well. Thanks for posting and have a nice day too.
You’re a good man, glad this popped up on my feed. I’ve been burned by a classic car dealer myself out of Michigan in the past. You’ve got a new subscriber.
Thank you for watching and subscribing
Thank you for what you do sir! Blessings!!!
Just found your channel. Was driving behind you coming back from Walmart a coupler hours ago and saw your window sticker (was in the red RAM). You earned a new sub Sir!
Thanks for subscribing!
These, are the videos, to get you monetized! Thoroughly, enjoyed!
I love the wire nuts they used for the taillights
I just found your channel. I have restored cars for over 30 years and am a retired mechanic in the rust belt of southern Ontario. Do yourself a favour and run away from that car. If you do any work on that car there is no telling where your personal liability will end up. That car is as bad as it gets . Rusty piles of junk are honest and apparent. Cars like this are far worse because to the casual observer they appear solid. We both know a couple of good pot holes, a rough railroad crossing or dumping the clutch is going to tear the back of that car apart . I feel bad for the new owner and I feel bad for you getting involved.
I'm definitely on the fence on even touching it unless he goes the route I want to take. He has another 65 shelll that just needs minor repairs I've urged him to bring it and use what metal can be salvaged out of this car as a donor
He can use that other original body or an Acorn? body that is ALL new, aligned, primed, sealed, ready for bodywork and paint. I see this body costing 100k+ to repair properly with quality patch panels and the labor to do quality assembly of the parts! That's NOT including paint and bodywork! The VIN tag can be swapped LEGALLY and made much more safe to drive. There are only a few, rare option cars, that creates reasons to double your hard earned money into that abomination! Just removing and replacing the janky quarters, fenders, and floor "patches" would be 40k with parts and labor 😡
I get buying your "dream car", that is a NIGHTMARE, NOT a dream. I feel bad for that person, probably my favorite year Mustang! Sad, sad, vehicle for what he probably paid 😢
@@HotRodGuyGarage
Honestly, I'd wash my hands of that car. Most of my work has been mechanical, and I've refused to do Mechanical work on cars "fixed" that poorly, or just so rusty they weren't safe.
It's your name - and possibly home and everthing you've worked for - on the line here. Lose one customer & save your reputation and everything you've worked your adult life for.
Worth losing one customer to me.
I realize now how lucky I was to get a rust free mustang last year that has a straight body and very few issues (mostly electrical) in comparison. It helped that my father in-law used to restore classic cars and the car came from someone in his club who took care of their pride and joy for decades before deciding to sell to me.
Good luck to you and the owner on a safe rebuild.
I worked at a vintage/classic car restoration shop for 27 years. I did mechanical only, no bodywork and paint or interior. But I've seen a lot of stuff like this. It's unbelievable how much of this is out there. I've seen a bunch of Uncle Tony's videos on this stuff, Kiwi's does a lot of videos on it as well. I don't do bodywork, but I wouldn't touch that car with a 10 foot pole. There is no way to fix it right. You're right about it not being straight, and it would be almost impossible to make it straight. The cost of just trying to make it safe to drive would far exceed the value of the car. And if the owner ever does get into an accident in it, and gets killed or seriously injured, and they find out what kind of condition the car is in, you could wind up getting sued. It's just not worth it. I also watch a channel called DD Speed Shop. He is currently in the process of rebuilding a '67 Camaro. And he has replaced about 90% of the metal on the car, including the rear frame rails. But he kept it straight, and it's actually stronger than it was to begin with. And he is an "amateur". I would take any good mechanical parts off this car and crush the rest, so somebody else does not wind up with it. Obviously it's up to the owner, but I would not do any work on it at all. You could be setting yourself up for a real f**ked up day.
Holy crap on the cross member welded on with no bolt🤯. I feel bad for the guy that bought it
Yup the bolts are cheap and easy to come by
The best thing when buying a “restored” or previous repaint classic vehicle is having a restoration shop or someone who really knows classic cars look at it! This is more important than a mechanic at this point. Body work on a classic can easily far outweigh the cost of drivetrain parts
I feel so sorry for the buyer, he must be devastated. I plan on buying a classic when I have the money so this is a lesson learned to get an expert to go through the car first.
Wow I feel bad for the buyer, but boy that should have screamed "run away" - that fender gap should tell anyone the car was a wreck.
This type of work isn't done only by flippers. There are many people in the classic car hobby that are inexperienced, working on a budget, have to worry what the wife says, just want to get it back on the road and are doing this type of stuff. I have seen way too many people who shouldn't be working on old cars because they think it is easy or have been told it is easy. To do a car right it has to be completely gone through in order to be right and safe. Even a nice unrestored car needs to be completely serviced inside and out.
i always wanted a ford falcon ranchero when i got my licence in the 60's, Its good for kids to fix stuff up themselves no matter how bad their work is.
Some people shouldn't buy anything more expensive than a Happy Meal ..............
Thank your for putting this "autopsy" for us to view.
I feel your pain. I worked at stuff like this for many years. Lots of satisfaction getting the cars put back together correctly. But not a lot of pay for the endless hours spent on them.
Thats why you only restore the cars you own and want to own it till you die that way or cars from customers they pay you a good price for every hour you work and every part you spend on their car and not for package price for your work or body shop...that every single time turn into a money pit and hour grave for the shop and mechanic...good work and good parts cost time,knowledge and MONEY....
And a good restoration and paintjob on a rare car with expensive and super rare parts(if they are buiable...after hours or days..or weeks searching for parts...time for that the customer has to pay too!!! Or If the parts not availible you have to reproduce them them from scratch-not only panels...sometimes you have to cast and mashine a complete cylinderhead or engineblock by youreself...) can easily cost the same like a nice house with a big property or a new supersports or luxury car....i saw people throw the price for a new ferrari,lambo or bentley in old cars like a early vw beetle, vw samba van or old mini cooper.....but they are better than new after leaving the garage and probably last forever with properly maintane and in a good home.....
Unfortunately that's this hobby going broke by the day while working to death
Charge more $$, why should you have to work cheap on someone else's problem?
@@garylivingston9052 what i wrote earlyer to that....enjoy working on youre own car or take the right amount of money for it(actual dealership price for a hour in the workshop- in germany for example are 280-350euros per hour- for everything you do for other peoples old cars...including searching for parts and issues on that vehicle....properly work needs properly -expensive- equipment, knowledge, passion...and time+willing to do it right and best as possible in absolute every thinkable way...best repairmethods, best and/or original and sometimes difficult to get parts....(the mercedes benz classic center in sindelfingen can reproduce every single part thats needed...old pre 1950 cylinderheads for example -when ordered- where handcast ...after old blueprints in the castingmanufacture by mclaren for mercedes and mashined in sindelfingen.....
Okay...some cylinderhead or block can cost up to 80k euros-and you need probably two of them for some projects- but you can rebuild almost anything properly....when you get the right money to do it...if not...people get shitty repaired, bondo filled, rust buckets in resell red..... glued together and with weaky point weldings....and pays also "a lot" of money...not for the car itself....but for prepairing it after right....and yes...this hobby is expensive and if you do it not youreself...
Every old car repair or restoration -also modells like a old beetle or minis can cost easily more than buying a new dreamcar like lambo or ferrari from factory or buy a house with property....for normal people only makeable if you learn to do it youreself and probably only one car over the whole lifetime....buyed after getting youre first job and finished long after retierement...
Then dont work for free. Tell the customer what it take to do the job right. If they dont like it, move on the next customer. I say that as a restoration shop owner
As a restorer, fortunately living in no rust Arizona, I would not touch that thing. I'm currently doing a Porsche 914, the only thing I replaced was the battery tray.
By about 15 seconds into the walkaround I knew this car was REALLY poorly done. That "builder" was an assassin.
I bought a 69 z28 like 20 years ago just like that. In the pics that orange with black stripes sure was pretty. When the guys was unloading if off the trailer the rust was just falling off the floors. I knew then I screwed up. I chalked that up as to a very costly learning experience with working with old cars. I now know what to look for. We all have to learn somehow!!!
Unfortunately this happens all too often nowadays, and it looks bad on those of us who do quality work, great video!
You can get an almost fully mint hardtop for 30 grand. I feel terrible for the buyer but minimum research would’ve saved his wallet and time
I am not a professional body man and my welds aren’t pretty but a restomod I built for a relative survived a rear end collision without being totaled.
I was really happy none of my welds broke because there were a lot of them. My shop teacher in HS , late 70’s, told me I welded like a gorilla, ugly and strong. He said if he needed a plow repaired I was the man but if it needed to look good I needed to brush up on my grinder skills.
When I go to classic car shows, I always wonder how much work was put into some of the nice cars. Like, what’s the history? How much body work was put in. Is everything the owner claims as “original” telling the truth and etc. When I go out and buy classic cars, I’m going to buy a vehicle that hasn’t been restored - that is great shape, low mileage, and so forth. It’s scary to go out and spend 10K plus on a car that has been fully restored looking trophy winning. That is why I’m probably never going to really buy a fully restored car that has had a full off frame resto as tempting as it is. Thank heavens I also know what I’m looking for when I’m shopping for a classic car. I’ve been buying and selling classic cars for a long time and all my cars I’ve owned, knock on wood, were all original, intact, in great shape!
I feel bad for the guy who bought this Stang, but the person has a lot to learn and I assume he must be a young guy probably excited about this vehicle - probably his first purchase.We all have to begin somewhere at some point, but when I was young, just out of high school, I already knew what I needed to do - DO YOUR HOMEWORK!
You're a good man for setting him straight about that car. And you're right. It is one hot mess and absolutely dangerous. Lots of hours and money will be needed to fix it completely. Might be better to cut his loss and invest any rebuild money into a better car.
As these older cars start approaching prices that rival new cars people are getting complacent especially with the internet, thinking anything ‘for sale’ has some sort of guarantee or is backed … there’s a reason why the ‘perfect’ ones are starting to rival exotic pricing because they are practically exotics at this point. As they say you get what you pay for 🙃
When you told us the price he paid. WOW! I would never pay that for a coup. I have a restomod 65 I restored myself. I learned how to weld body panels on it and though my first repairs in 2001 were not as hacked as these are. I finally after experimenting on other builds started and finished the 65 in 2012. Took me ten years on other cars to feel good enough to fix the one I have. In 2000 I paid 1600 for two 65 mustangs. One complete and one parts car. Sold the complete car for a little more than both and started my journey. Now my car must be worth 50k if this is what people are paying for these or more.
Yep. If you want a good one, you are paying some serious money.
Wheel house on a tug boat.. wheel well on a...................very interesting great channel thanks
Seen a lot of butcher hack work like that before. I've been restoring cars since the 80's and it just amazes me at such shoddy work.
Thanks for the video! I'm interested in seeing 👀 more on this Mustang. Unfortunately I Understand all to well about buyer be aware. I sold my '65 Mustang a couple of years ago because I knew it was a rot box. Back in 1985, long before I owned it, it received an extensive "bondo" makeover. The girl who owned it thought she got a top notch job. She stopped driving it by 1989: paint started a crackin, and chipping off. Fast forward to November 2018. I purchase it seeing the rust, knowing that it hasn't run in almost 30 years, but I also realize that it is a slightly rare car. It was built in October of 1964, for the 1965 model year. But it had a lot of the "64.5" built parts on it from the factory. It also was a factory 289 automatic car. I got it running and driving for a short time before brake lines started popping. After going through it, I decided to sell it because I was not in a position to be able to do a proper restoration of the car. The gentleman who bought it, is a professional body guy. We went over the details and he was fine with it. He sends me pictures of the project: and man alive, it was a project! But, it was done right! After 4.5 years of hard work, it's done. And it looks like it did rolling out of the factory; original color (Prairie Bronze Metallic) and all.
My 1970 Mercury Cougar Eliminator was another one. The previous owner who drove it in the mid to late '80's did what he could to hide rot to pass inspection. This included metal TAPE and undercoating over the top of the rot holes in the frame rails 😱. He also pop- riveted beer cans over the rot on the fenders, doors, rockers, and quarters. Completed with bondo and primer. He had no idea how Dangerous the 1/2 ass cover-up was to the framework. I found it by accident leaning against the frame next to where the steering mounted. If I went for a drive, Guarantee I would have crashed.
Being everything is only zip screwed and snot welded on your Mustang should make for easy disassembly; possibly for re-use. I know it's cheap aftermarket stuff, and it will need some extra work to line up the gaps, but it would help keep the costs down. The upper cowl can be purchased in 1 piece; that's what the guy did to my old '65 since it was so bad.
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I saw one like this for sale, sadly it was a long term project for a guy who didn't know what he was doing and did it the cheap way- drywall screws, wire nuts and pieces of solid wire were used. It was shiny I will give it that and being sold by the family after he passed away- I pointed out that it was a sketchy deathtrap but they just had dollar signs in their eyes, they had it for sale for at least 3 years and then it dissapeared, hopefully it went for parts
Thanks for all the tips! Great video, sucks that your client is dealing with that.
Hi I'm a Brit, really enjoy the videos.
Over here cars over 30 years old don't need an annual inspection (normally for cars over 3 years old). But you can take them for one, costs £45 , used as an indicator the cars not made from spit and tissue paper.
Won’t mention the place, but they’re in Henderson Tennessee. You know the one that the horns never work.😂
I truly dont see why people buy from them. Overpriced pigs with lipstick.
The Maple place?
@@stevieg2755 I've known about Maple Motors for a long time. The sell mostly junk, and they have a tendency to sell "fake" or "clone" cars without explicitly disclosing that they are not the real thing. But I'm pretty sure they would not sell anything like this. They have been around for a long time, and they would have been shut down a long time ago if they sold something this dangerous. I would not buy a car from them, you are going to get scammed, but you are not likely to wind up with something anywhere near this bad.
Lmfao!
You do mean the place that has all the overpriced "classics" and are clones or tribute cars.
I'd hate to see that one come into the shop.
You're absolutely right, a new shell is the best way to go.
The "repairs" on it actually made it worse.
It didn't even look like it was that bad to start with, they just rushed it with no regard at all to any kind of quality.
I don't even know what to think of that mess.
I'll subscribe to your channel to see how it works out.
You've got a pile of welding to do just to make it hold up.
What a shame
I was expecting it to tougher to see the warning signs, but I gasped in the first quick scan!
I know. I’m wondering if the buyer might be technically legally blind and maybe should not have a driver’s license.
Yup, me too!
I bought an old Camaro from Arizona in mn. It was 99.87% rust free. I couldn’t believe it. Well, it had ariz plates so it wasn’t in mn long.
Awesome video Brotha! BOOOOOM BABY!
These cars were junk new...I remember every honk on my 65 notch back made the horn break. Why? Oh they used a plastic retaining ring...it also acted as an insulator. After a few replacements at $20 a pop...in(1987) I never used the horn. That straight six was a DOG and every time i went over a bump the front end squeaked.... unless you cut a hole to spray lubricant on it. Yeah I put my foot through the rear floor pan....cheap thin garbage steel..the American way. oh and the heater never worked or defrosted the DAMN window...and when you hit bump it reset the climate controls... Show me your good work..pointing out other peoples flaws is easy and is done by every hack. Even the window regulators were junk and the windows fell down....
We have a classic car dealer locally that does work like this. Unfortunately they have a decent reputation because most of their customers are retirees or otherwise people who don't know what to look for.
Took me less than 5 minutes on their lot to discover that this was the type of vehicle they were selling.
Also had a customer bring in a 67 gto they purchased. Only to find the car had been halved. Literally cut in half and a different rear half of a car booger welded on. We broke the news to him
The classic car flipping gig is ridiculous and 99% is botched up garbage
Same thing happened to me with a 79 Trans Am (that was half 77 Formula…), but it was a very cheap roller (back in college). That was all my savings then so I was devastated! Can’t imagine finding that to be the case on a very high dollar “restored” car.
The problem with that is you touch it, you Own it. That was a good video
Great video..I feel sorry for the owner of this car. Lesson learned.
Interesting video. My only experience with body work is with our race cars. Which is an anything goes deal as long as tech passes. Most consumers have no clue how a modern unibody car is constructrd. Its a bunch of pinch seems an spot welds. Cavaliers are glued together. What happens is they rust out all along whatever magic pixie dust GM bonds their panels with. We end up cutting and putting bar stock in places we know get hit all the time. Because rubbin is racing... That being said new cars also crumple for a reason to absorb the impact. It also means we can pull a car back to mostly straight even after an accident.
Years ago, I put a couple together a little like that. Had limited resources and a good imagination. But not to resell for big money, but to enjoy for myself. Live and learn
SURE THERE R GREAT FINDS BUT NOT EVERYONE IS THAT LUCKY.. GREAT CONTENT THANK YOU. THAT TORIINO IS A GEM. VERY NICE N BEAUTIFULL.. THE COST OF EVERYTHING IS THRU THE ROOF... THE COUNTRY IS GOING TO CRAP AT HIGH SPEEDS.. I DRIVE JOLOPYS NOW..JUST FROM A TO B.
There was a reason why they called these “Rustangs”. It was built off a Falcon- a cheap econobox that if look closely enough would rust right before your eyes.
That Mustang in Australia can have another nasty surprise. The fella complained the steering box kept coming loose. The problem the car was converted to right hand drive.
Slight lack of strength the right. .
There was an 80s toyota pickup near me when I was in the market for an old truck, looked beautiful cosmetic wise, since it was at a mom and pop dealership the mechanics let me put it up in the air on the lift to take a look. The bottom looked freshly painted and I knew something was up, found where the frame was rusted through near a leaf spring joint and was filled with spray foam and painted over, insta walk away to say the least lol. At least the mechanics were real ones and let me put that thing up
Finally a 65 mustang that makes mine look good. Been slowly rusting in a barn for the past 35yrs I've owned. I see a nice one and then visit mine, get sad, and walk away until I see another one the cycle repeats.
Time to pull it out of the barn and make something of it!
The tail pipe against the gas tank was my holy shit moment, I see explosions in that guys future, God forbid.
Very dangerous
Love the OS on the rims and tires...
Greetings from Ireland, i can remember years ago looking a "totally restored" 1965 Mini Cooper S. It looked beautiful but alarm bells were ringing withing 2 minutes. I had taken a torch with me and was about to look below it and my father was wrapping a magnet in a rubber glove to hunt for the body filler . The guys comment was you can do all that when you buy it but i think you cant afford it!!!! We could smell the fresh paint and see empty body filler cans on the bench . We found out later that it had been sold as a parts car, about 9 weeks before we saw it.Someone had been burning the midnight oil!
Thanks for watching! I once went to look at a 1955 Chevrolet sedan and when I arrived the guy was spreading filler in rust holes lol needless to say he kept them 😆
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@@HotRodGuyGarage wow that is crazy ,you didn't need a magnet, his reaction must have been priceless!!!! A lot of us might have patched up a wreck in our late teens to drive spending hundreds of pounds rather than tens of thousands. Those memories of a mint car at Easter ,knowing that the bubbles and cracked filler would have burst out in about January of the next year! My father did all the structural welding so that it was safe, for him it was tyres, brakes and structure .
The $17K a person would spend on a Dynacorn Body is a lot cheaper than to repair that car and do it correctly. I agree with you with advising the customer not to use the shell.
Absolutely
I’ve seen too many cars repaired by backyard Billy Joe Bob dirt floor backwoods barn.
The problem is the guys running shops that are supposed experts…have likely have 3-5 different LLC shop names in 15 years.
I was at a shop in 2020 and a mustang convertible came in. Another well know mustang shop took two floor pan patch sections, sandwiched them top and bottom of the factory floor.
Passenger side of the floor had aluminum duct tape connecting the front passenger side floor pan to the rockers.
Buried in seam sealer/raptor liner.
Both outer rockers had been replaced but the inners were rotted away.
Sub frames were covered up with more aluminum tape and raptor lined.
Had the lady that owned it driven it and been hit, it would have folded up and killed her.
Wound up getting getting full pan, rails, torque boxes. It was criminal how badly it was hacked.
She had the shop fix it and it was done properly but time and materials, it was sickening but the car was special to her.
She wound up spending nearly $170k to rebuild a 66 convertible between the two shops and then the work done at the place I was at.
Found out the previous guys had been sued multiple times and just kept making new LLC business and disappearing and moving around Florida and Alabama.
This is the inspection people should get beforehand spending top dollar
A pretty paint job can hide a lot. I would not even want to touch that. Even the tack welds look terrible. You just earned a new sub
It's was pretty ugly, check out the rest of the Series
Structural glue galore it is what I would recommend to keep it a less expensive fix for now.
Just yesterday I saw a video on a 1974 Plymouth that was sold from Mecum’s Auto Sales. It had major flaws with one being that it didn’t have the 340 v8 engine and instead had a 318 v8 engine. Wrong build plates and vin #’s. An absolute Monstrosity !
great video quite a few bad repairs for sure must be such a noisy drive
I feel bad for the new owner. He got robbed. I think the safest/best thing to do to fix this is to buy a new 1965 body and rebuild it. Unfortunately, that is very expensive. Hope everything works out for the owner.
He has another 65 that needs some light metal work I've tried to urge him that direction
I would replace the body. If I owned it I would sue the guy I got it from. Or get my money back plus some extra for the trouble.
"As is" carries alot of weight in a court of law.
I’d call the person who sold him this car and tell him I want the good money I paid him for his valuable car back.. and offer him your lawyers number if he’s not being agreeable…..
Nicely polished shoe box.
You spelled $#!+ box wrong
Not even nicely polished it is a big ole turd
This is one of those "cut your loses ASAP and move on" situations. this particular car is not worth a half way fix, it either needs to be completely torn down and professionally redone (which in this case is cost prohibitive since there are thousands of other 65 Mustangs out there in a lot better shape. The new owner needs to chalk it up to a loss for his inexperience and move on..I know it sounds harsh but it will actually save him a lot of money in the future. As a mechanic I would not even take on such a mess... way too much liability and headaches.
Better than some of the cars i have had
Wow. All I can say is I would be afraid to put it on a lift and get under it. One rough railroad track and it’s all in pieces all over the road.😳
Wishing we knew more of this car's history...
Me too
I like how the person who did the job painted the inside of the wheels and tires. LOL
If he gave more than 4k, he really got took!
I knew a guy who went to a hardware store to buy house number stickers, slapped them on a tired 1971 Olds Cutlass, and tried to sell it as a 442. With an automatic transmission.
Sounds about normal 🤣
I’ve just got a very similar looking project vehicle. Luckily apart from Bondo on the trunk and roof it appears fairly sound..
Hell Yeah Brother!
I’m going to say this…second comment from me as I keep watching this video…I’m from the Midwest and saw a few really bad cars and trucks in my years.
But legit…Alabama and Florida was next level for hack work.
How can anyone be remotely comfortable with the idea of selling a car in that condition 😒
Love the marr cap electrical...lol
How do you feel about seem sealing quarter panels instead of welding?
I trust a properly penetrated weld over any sealer or adhesive