Do Players Actually Need Agents?
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00:00 Do Players Really Need Agents Anymore?
00:53 What Agents Do
03:13 End of an Era?
04:30 The Rise of CEO Footballers
06:25 Trust is King
07:35 The Future?
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#football #agents #debruyne - Sport
de bruyne so good he assisted himself
Underrated comment
Nice. Nicely done đ
We ever you are just know this is a world class comment đ
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Class comment
De Bruyne vision is so good that he even suspects his agent doing money laundering.
His vision is 20 max in fm21
Ha nice joke
Haha
His vision is 20/20
As a former professional CZcamsr, I know how desperate you might be for an agent, if you're unexperienced.
It's really hard to know your value to someone else, if you're not lectured in marketing and negotiating.
So I payed my lawyer to negotiate a deal for me. It was expensive - but totally worth it.
(I made 2.5 x more in the following year and visited better events. Just because of this deal)
Today I'm good enough myself and I dont need anyone to talk for me anymore.
What I want to say with this:
If you're new to the game - pay an expert. Until you become an expert yourself.
Great advice mate. Thanks for posting this.
Very well said, my friend
this
inexperienced
I don't agree with this logic, as every footballer in the top leagues at least, know their worth.
There's website that literally tell them what their worth, and they can value themselves against someone else at a bigger or smaller club.
De Bruyne to his agent: Let me talk!
And he finally talked.
He let his talking do the talking đ
đ€Ł lemme talk đ€Łđ€Ł... underrated comment
Kevin
Balotelli is real genius,iq over 9000.
He was such a stupid guyđđ he shoud know that when there is fire in your house you should directly call fire brigadeđ€Ł
Genius struggle wearing a training shirt đ€Ł
All you mocking him but he makes more money then you and he is more happier then you lot đ
@@greatestanalyser2354 so?
@@faheemshah9942 nop he needed his agents permission
I always remember what Brian Burke said in his Spittin Chclets interview
âAgents arenât there for making you more money. Anyone can make you more money. Agents are there so that when you leave the room you havenât been destroyed psychologically by men saying youâre worth a quarter of what you think you areâ
@@siddheshkhandalkar4498 Itâs not about that, itâs about a combination of maintaining a good relationship with the organization and trying to not break the players confidence. A lot of sports is mental, and ruining the confidence of a player has disastrous consequences
@@siddheshkhandalkar4498 Their job is to play football. They can easily succeed in life without being particularly good at business negotiations
@@siddheshkhandalkar4498 lmfao the irony of a child commenting this on CZcams about people who probably have the strongest mentality on the planet.
@@avithakur1012 Exactly. Sports person are pretty strong mentally. My reply was just a rebuttal to an illogical thing said by mr Anonymous Anonymous.
@@siddheshkhandalkar4498 mr anonymous didn't say that. He quoted Brian Burke and very rightly so.
You're not understanding the meaning here. Psysiologically destroyed here doesn't mean destroying their mental health or something it refers to distorting their sense of self worth and creating a false picture leading the said player to believe that they deserve a salary of x Euros instead of y.
I love how the Athletic teaches us more about football without complicating it. Kudos y'all
This is Athletic interest
y'all? Do you speak like this in rl
@@gfuentes8449 i do, it's part of being a Malaysian.
@@gfuentes8449it means you all and itâs proper english
The problem in football agents is that they end up working on behalf of the clubs, and not the players. So they make the most money from transfers fees rather than a percentage off the players revenue. So most of their work is to increase the transfer fees and not the compensation to the players. On the other hand, a lot of players need agents, but the top players don't, they have the leverage most players canÂŽt get. I know agents of middle level players that work around the clock to get a team for their players, and that work is really valueble.
I always think this when I see chelsea's 'loan army' players. How have their agents stood by whilst their clients sign for a club they'll never play for, instead getting placed on endless pointless loans. They just traffic their clients without looking out for their best interests.
Joshua Kimmich doesnt have an agent and just negotiated a contract extension with bayern, coming with a much higher salary. So it all depends on the player :D Mia san Mia
Yeah but the guy has a pretty big mouth, speaks the native language, is quite smart and can articulate himself.
A 16 - 23 year old talent from brazil or france who don't speak german and has zero to little life experience can't do this by his one.
@@DerHalbeEuro First time you sign a contract, you should get an agent that you trust. Then you should understand the process of signing and negotiating a contract. The second time you sign a contract, that's when you have to change to a lawyer and replace the agent so you save money.
@@Colin-ut6cm You don't need to explain me anything. I'm not a football player. đ
@@DerHalbeEuro lol I'm just saying
When you're considered an important piece of one of the best teams in the world, you already have a leverage. No need for an agent.
The Empire State of mind background sound and then the introduction of Jay Z was flawless, whoever edited this is awesome
FACTS
I thought the very same thing.
Balotelli calling riola because there was a fire at his house is amazing
Thats real family
10% part off the family*
We need a collab with Tifo football
So you woke up today and decided to speak only FACTS?
Hell yeah
I know right!?
Are you going to run for president...?
Athletic Interest's art style + Tito's Story?
or the other way round?
Athletic Interest's covers the whole of sports though.
âBalotelli immediately called his manager and he advised him to call the fire brigadeâ
This got me đ
Somehow I think Mario is not as smart as KDB.
De Bruyne: LET ME have more money
City: Ok
Everybody else: IMPOSSIBLE
Lmao. Messi had more increasing ratio even without asking
@@universallearner2221 I mean, he's Messi. You will probably get the money back from Merch and sponsorships alone.
Not gonna lie, I'm happy you stick with "Football" instead of "Soccer".
Great video as always! đđ
soccerâœ
what Is soccer?
i only know football, the king sport đ
so childish bullshit, in america chips are called fries. What's wrong with people having different names for things ? I'm German and In germany we call football FuĂball, you probably can't even type this with your keyboard. So what ?
@@icarofilho6524 fuĂbal. yeah ain't German but long pressing 's' did the trick. No problem when people have different names for things but the media sometimes love using soccer when they have a significant amount of audience who aren't American and call it football. That when it's annoying
@@ayibabenedict it's actually English people who invented the word 'soccer', Just saying. I also want to point out that you have a problem on calling things different because you're annoyed by the word 'soccer'.
@@johnlemon2916yes soccer was a short form or a nickname for association football it wasn't really liked by the people so it was dropped. Also don't quote me wrong, I don't hate the word soccer I just hate when it is used in the wrong setting. No one calls it Calcio in France and no one calls it fuĂball in China so please don't call it soccer when most of your audience aren't Americans or Canadians
3:07 -
Mario Balotelli : â Oh No, my house is on fire đ„, I think calling my Agent first before the Fire Brigade is definitely the best option right now. Anyways, gotta let the house cook till Medium Rare or else Gordon wonât be happy đ„Ž â
People are really not this daft...
Ballotelli went to private school
@@jonl8816 Balotelli just might be this daft
De Bruyne wasn't the first one who represented himself.
Skriniar did the same thing just a few years earlier.
Then KDB was the first world class player probably.
@@kuber5987 No he is not. Would you seriously put him up there with the likes of KDB?
@@kuber5987 Skriniar at that time was not a top player . Now he is a top player .Am not sure you can say he is world class now
@@kuber5987 he is def not world class, this doesnt mean he isnt good tho
@@kuber5987 heâs a leading defender in his leagueâŠ. Not in the world, very good but not the best
Well educated players like Kimmich and De Bruyne can easily live without an agent. But let's face it, most footballers don't have the brains to represent themselves.
Brain = soulless
Word
Hmm thatâs quite a rather vulgar and baseless statement.
@@Justin-ml8id Vulgar? not at all, baseless? yeah somewhat. A lot of these players started off mid early teens thinking they are the next Ronaldo, Jordan or Messi, during time of mental and personal growth let alone study in the financial side of brutal capitalisation of the world's game. Too many athletes mouth off and let their emotions do the talking instead of a "professional" to handle things in their best interest.
try to send in Grealish alone and watch him come out of the meeting with a -25% pay cut
Kevin De Bruyne: âLet me talk!â
Athletic Interest needs a PR team itself, This channel deserves millions of subscribers.
When Balloteli noticed a fire in house, he immediately called Rayolla, he promptly advised him to call the fire brigade. That got me tearing up đ€Łđđ€Łđ
De Bruyne is one of the smartest players in world football. This is quite a poor example, not every player is capable of maintaining everything you guys mentioned in 360 plans. Of course, trust is important and your choice in agent will decide whether it works for you or not. De Bruyne is also a superstar, itâs not the same when youâre Lewis Dunk or Danny Drinkwater.
Usually channel doing this kind of vids will either have one or the other of graphics or info you get from the vids and this channel masters both better than many multi million sub channels with big work crews to write scripts and researching and doing graphics
i always wondered about this, i really love your content, its amazing
I think there are different types of personalities and accordingly the agents.
I think there will be three types of agents:
Super agents like Mino Raiola, Agent as family/best friends and Agency model (integrated standardized agent micro-services)
The future will see a combination of this.
Can't believe Messi is going to Join Ferrari Next year.
Lol
What a bad agent he have, lol
Heard a song when I was in Subway and I thought where do I know that song from? It was the outro to your videos.
Song is called Arms of Gold by Tape Machines for anyone interested
Depends, in case of KDB, its his football that does all the talking, but there are players like Eric Chuopo Moting who are believed to be part of the elite teams because of their agents
Another great Video, really love this Channel!
UPS - Your videos are so amazing and perfect, it's nice to spot the odd typo. I love your videos please keep up the amazing work.
Agents are definitely needed if youâre nobody. But if youâre someone like Mbappe and once your contract runs out then you really donât need an agent. Teams would just be jumping all over you asking you to play for them.
background music at the end is very goodđŻ..all your videos are masterpiece đ„
I'm watching this as if I'm a professional player who needs an agent! lol But amazing video guys, love the graphics. Well done
Thank you! Hope you find a good agent for you soon đȘ
well doing your job good is a sport. representing yourself in your pay is without an agent
Athletic Interest please give subtitles, it is something I really like about this channel
This channel is unmatched!
I've been waiting so long for this video, as I've been asking myself the same question for a few years
Same⊠and turns out agents are needed - for the most part
Nice editing đđ
This is such a great channel!
Another amazing vid đđđ
Greetings from Dennis Schröder... big time Agent work. You are fired!
From 80 million to 5.9 millionđ. Too bad for him
YALL ARE GOOD AT THIS!!
Always interesting to learn about the game outside the pitch
Amazing channel good content đ
U r amazing đ bro , I like the videos so much
Thereâs no limit to what De Bruyne can do
Good depiction of Mino Raiola in the thumbnail. One of the more notorious agents, although he wasn't De Bruyne's agent. That was Patrick de Koster.
Not surprisingly, great video!
There is one major point, though, that I would take in consideration when talking about high level footballers deciding to have an agent: the convenience of It, that's the most important aspect of a player/agent relationship.
A high level footballer is in continuous preparation, whether It's physical or mental. To take time off of training or, even, resting, to learn the logistics of representing yourself when arranging contracts⊠It would, perhaps, be even more expensive than giving up 10 to 15% of your gains.
Also, an agent is there to make sure that the image of a player, when negotiating, is not hurt. To have you agent deny an offer from your boss is extremely different than you denying It yourself.
Again, a fantastic Video!
Can we stop by and appreciate the original ideas and quality of every video! đ€Ż
"How about we pay you less?"
"How about I show you something?"
This feels like out of a Martin Scorsese movie.
Which one?
As interesting as always
Great video
Nice Video as always
These are literally the most high quality videos on CZcams! â€
We appreciate that! Thank you
Great content.
This generation of Manchester City players are so gifted, not only on footballing terms, but they also gifted intellectually as well. Outside of this story, Rodri achieving a BA degree is quite incredible.
Tbf I think for more people in the lower leagues or even players who aren't superstars, agents are very good at making you money, as it may be hard to show your worth like someone like KDB could.
That being said, I think it is also important to get you an agent who only has a small pool of clients as they would be more likely to work for you and also understand what you want better. Like often it feels like agents will push a players move to a club, that may be a bit higher level than they are just yet for more money and so they need someone to help manage their progression while making money for them.
Man I absolutely love your videos!!!
Thank you!
De Bruyne snitched on his agent lol
From a production perspective ... Mate, that theme track you use at the end is just *chefskiss* perfect !!!! Any chance there is a name to it? Available on CZcams? Anything? đ
Ahh, another quality video! And yes, agents are needed, but not always. PS: Props for pronouncing Joshua Kimmich's name correctly! :)
Well Athletic Interest are Germans so German names shouldnât be the largest issue ;)
@@flo3381 well, I heard german experts and journalists say his name in the american way, so I guess it's not that common. I gotta admit that I too did that before I knew about it. :)
Naja Joshua is pronounced technically different in German. I never understood why the media pronounces him Josua instead of Joshua...
@@fjellyo3261, hmm? Media? As in AI? Well, when his own mother says Josua, I'll stick to that instead of Joshua, yes. :)
@@Shookie yeah idk what his mother says. But it's still weird đđđ. Because even in English it's pronounced different. Don't know we're Josua pronunciation comes from.
Debruyne even use statistics to backtrack his performance and the team, to use this in negotiations, all by himself, respect !!!
Love your vids
It seems Athletic Interest is no longer a random guy interested in athletics but a team with it's on PR
Yeah but De Brunye didnât do it by himself because like you said he hired an analytics firm he outlined his value to the team performance wise, but they also gave him provided an evaluation monetarily as well.
Yeah but he personally hired those analysts and oversaw a majority of the negotiations.
and then there josh kimmich who did it by himself without an analytics team
@@mufaromawere4819 yeah but every player personally hires their own agentâŠ
Great video! I really loved the content! Although you have not asked, I believe that feedback is always valuable!
What I am about to say might be controversial(especially because I am not an expert producer, maybe an expert consumer hehe) , but nonetheless, I wish to express my opinion.
This video would be just as remarkable/enjoyable/informative if it was played at 1.5 speed. and its length would roughly be just under 6 minutes.
Thank you again for putting out such rich content!
Thank you for the feedback, always appreciated!
More than anything I just love your videos
I literally love this channel.. and DW Kickoff
Thank you, Lancine!
I mean Roc Nation does have agents of their own (atleast for the nba they do) and if you think about it, someone that gives you sponsorship deals can also be considered an agent, so they do still have agents
3:07 wow what a great relationship!
What program you edit these amazing videos?
RIP Mino a true legend
There was a fire. Ballotelli called Raiola who advised him to call the fire brigade. That's very helpful
No Fuchs Given, never heard of that brand but I have to check it out immediately.
Thumbnail is đ„
Consider doing a video on how Floyd Mayweather changed the boxing industry. Would love to see you guys make a video on the topic!
I am not fan of Lewis Hamilton, but he is an interesting example of this. He is known to be close friends with Mercedes Team principle Toto Wolff and they always negotiate new contracts just one on one, with no agents whatsoever.
Could you make a video about Roc nation sports? I'd be very interested how Jay Z is changing the sporting world
Short Answer- Yes
Long Answer- YES
Nice description
When youâre fresh or not quite sure of your value then sure. But once youâve established yourself then there really is no need, but then again top agents donât just negotiate contracts for their top clients. They do everything.
De Bruyne even assisted belgium police to put his agent into jail.
Ok Nazi
@@DerHalbeEuro Aus welchem Grund nennst du mich einen Nazi? Ist das deine Schlussfolgerung wegen dem eisernen Kreuz in meinem Profilbild. Das ist das Logo der deutschen Bundeswehr und damit beschimpfst du quasi alle rund 260.000 BeschÀftigten der Bundeswehr als Nazi. Erstaunlich wie du es schaffst deine Dummheit mit nur zwei Worten zum Ausdruck zu bringen.
hey @athletic interest do you do voice overs?
If your career is flying high its true you don't need an agent... But for struggling players an agent is a must
The background music was too loud this time, but i still love your channel
Thanks for the feedback, this is really helpful!
Make a video on Kabaddi, one of rising sport in India. Its going next Global sport.
RIP the goat, Mino Raiola đ
@AthleticInterest Can you guys please tell me what background music you used at 0:57 Iâve been searching for days
Wested Education - Blue Topaz đ¶
@@AthleticInterest You actually replied ! you guys are the coolest đđ»
How do u make these videos with such great animation?
Nothing impressive, every salary man can negotiate his own contract with his employer without any assistance. KDB case is not a benchmark at all since he's looking to renew his contract with a club he knows very well. I'd like to see him negotiate a transfer abroad and deal with all the local and foreign regulations. Players still need agents/lawyers.
Sounds like something an agent would say
Rip Mino Raiola God bless
Like Salah, KDB negotiated with the support of lawyers, he didn't just walk in solo.
The idea of Salah bringing in a Lawyer to take care instead of agents fits the perfect balance. Afterall as a footballer there are things better to focus on and in the same time you don't need to call agent when fire breaksout.
Respect for DeBruyne just went up đđŒ
Representing himself... it's empowering
Welkl let me put it thiss way.
to become on de bruyne star level you will need talent + a very good agent to get you there. without the 2. It wonât happen. Or you would need to be very lucky.
after that if you get to that level that every team knows who you are and youâve been playing for a while at the top.
you could discuss contracts without an agent, simply because these big clubs would sit with you.
without a big agent they wouldnât even give you the time.
Just depends on how well known you are
What's the song at 5:41?
Edit : I knew that I'd heard it, Empire State of Mind for anyone interested
Aos amigos brasiileiros, 4:05 - MUSICA BRAZUCA NO ATHLETIC INTEREST!
Having agent is a midfield problem I see
Two of the best midfielders De Bruyne and Joshua Kimmich just negotialted a dela without an agent.
I hope and pray the next video is about Messiâs singing to PSG and all the pros and cons about it
Short answer - yes
Long answer - yes
also, if you mention alaba case, it will be his agent that makes problem for him at bayern..
"Do we need agents?"
*Starts video with an agent in jail"
Well that is something.