George Lucas CONFIRMS Who Anakin's Father Is In His Mind
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What Lucas says is what I accept as canon. It's his creation regardless of who he sold the rights to.
I couldn't have said it better. The definition of canon is pretty much the original works. Disney had some nerve going in and deciding that THEIR stuff is canon (plus whatever of the original stuff fit into their plans) and not Lucas - just because they bought the rights. What is now called LEGENDS is actually the real canon - What is now called CANON is fanfiction.
Now, there's nothing wrong with fanfiction; some fanfiction is very well written, but no matter how good a fanfiction is, it's still not canon and shouldn't be called such.
That’s how I think of things. My tiers of what I consider canon from most to least:
• What Lucas says/writes (as long as he doesn’t change his mind 🙄)
• Current canon outside of Lucas’ creations
• Legends to fill in the gaps
Totally agree! So happy we have Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau who support George Lucas vision for Star Wars.
Yup Lucas never even cared to go so deep like the EU did, nor did he even like the EU. The original material is kind of just a lighthearted fantasy genre, tho he did do a decent amount of story weaving with the ideas for prequels later and such
Then that would imply that Rey and Kylo... are related... oh my god no. THAT KISS THEY SHARED IN RoS😖!!!
I actually prefer George Lucas and the Legends explanation of how Anakin was born. The notion that the Sith are responsible for their own destruction is very appealing to me. Because they were greedy and wanted to/tried to enforce their will over the will of the force it led to their own destruction eventually. Also because neither the Sith Order nor the Jedi Order as a whole were following the will of the Force for quite some time both Orders were eventually destroyed by Anakin/Vader.
Sith and how they practice the dark side of the force is toxic to the nature of the Force.
Yeah I do agree as legends explanation for most person is true canon. Disney star war is just bad like some part was ok but most part of it was trash as make no sense or very confusion of the lore for Disney Star war version.
Wow 🤔👏👏👏
I like the sith. So I'm good with that. I'd be good with some sith DNA running around in the Skywalker's. The sith have made far more powerful Darksiders than Jedi. And historically the goal of the sith was immortality . Then the Jedi did some genocide sht. So all in all when I look at the entirety of it I'd rather it be sith DNA.
I do as well. I also greatly dislike the concept of the force doing something to get rid of the Sith on its own.
The idea that the Sith would eventually be its own undoing is poetic. I think it makes perfect story-sense.
but also the Jedi being their own undoing.
@@DVankeuren But the Jedi are not undone. That is why Luke is training new Jedi.
@@TheRivrPrncessThat never happened in George's story.... You're watching Disney BS......
I dont like the sequels as the idea of saying Sidious never died surely means Anakin went through everything he did for nothing, his purpose was to defeat the sith and bring balance to the force, but if Sidious never died and the dark side took over shortly after anyway, he went through all that pain and suffering and eventually died for nothing
You clearly are a casual. The EU also had Palpatine survive. Palpatine always survives, and he likely survived his death in 9 too. He is clearly goading Rey to kill him, and then she kills him. She was doing exactly what he wanted.
@@monkeysk8er33 Fact you think you know Star Wars, calling people "casuals" , and not only did you actually see episode 9, but you're acting as if it matters is hysterical. OP is 100% right, it literally ruins Anakins entire story arch over the 6 films... it makes his story pointless. Which is the most important part of the entire saga. Bringing him back like it didn't matter is a disgrace. Mary Sue Jedi beats him instead, and "he'll likely survive again"-sequel trilogy logic
@@randomrecipes5007 I consider the sequels just disney theories.
@@StarBlasto yep, Disney's star wars isn't cannon to me.
That's why I hated ros more than tlj
Yeah, I like the idea of the Force creating Anakin in response to the Sith meddling with the Dark Side so deeply. It’s very Hermetic in its implications. As above, so below.
Or in this instance to my mind, as below(dark), so above(light).
That's how ive always seen it, the force balancing itself
Do you know what hermeticism is ? There are so many holes written into the story by meddling with the lineage. Besides do you really want the Jesus Jedi ?
@@correctpolitically4784 short answer?
I will pray for you.
George Lucas’s story was very steeped in Jungian Archetypes and the Hero’s Journey, which are all deeply connected with Hermetic philosophy, amongst other schools of thought (Taoism also comes to mind). Yoda’s speech about being “luminous beings” and not “this crude matter” could be taken straight from the mouth of Hermes Trismegistus himself.
Personally I like the Palpatine meddling with the force explanation, it carries over on the theme when Luke found out Vader was his father.
It would be cheesy though to add a scene like "Anakin, I'm your father" for the prequels and "Luke, I'm your grandfather" for the sequels 😂
@@Crafty_Spirit it would also mean Rey kissed her cousin💀
@@Crafty_Spirit FAMILY LOL
@@_Alexandermthegreat_ the skywalkers kiss family a lot
Anakin was created to bring balance to the force. To counter act the dark side Palpatine and his former master had conjured.
I like the idea that palpatine THINKS he is responsible for creating Aniken, but the force actually made/allowed it to happen with other plans in mind.
The Force is Anakin's Father. Both The Cosmic and Living Force has answered the call to bring Balance.
Lets face it, anakin is the jesus of star wars
I have had a tear in my eye reading this
Stop Capitalizing Everything For Emphasis. What Are You, A Twelve-Year Old?
No
When Palpatine and Plagueis shifted the Force to the dark side, the Force yielded to them, and didn't retaliate. It was only when Plagueis then tried to create life through the Force that the Force turned away from him, and created Anakin.
Well he didn't cos that never happened
U not just listen to the video
@@khoi3531 do u not like mandolin or boba fett? There 3 films where a joke definitely. But dint be a dick
yes the force made anakin not plagueis, the force turned away from plagueis and made anakin to destroy the sith
@@alucardmyers8951 Disney lore won't beat actual Star Wars lore. The Mandolorian and The Book of Boba Fett are good shows, but that doesn't make the Disney lore better.
I think we should go with Jorge Lukas's ideas. As he created star wars. So his idea should hold presidents over Disney's ideas which kinda f'd up star wars a bit.
Like Disney have already ruin the star war. I like the legend than Disney canon star war. For me legend star war is real canon in star war series.
Talk to text sucks
Especially since Lucas might not necessarily just be telling a story that he made up. (Not saying someone else did it that he stole it)
Hmmm Disney and LucasFilms all have or had presidents. You used the wrong word. Precedence*. Now your comment makes sense 🤦♂️🤷♂️
Jorge💀💀💀 I like the reference
I vote more George Lucas, he started this work of art so others tampering with it is nothing but a deceptive display of the dark side. His art is what made Star Wars what it is today and his vision should never die
I disagree. Just because someone starts something doesn’t mean all their ideas are good. A lot of the contributions the writers made in the EU books were great and added stories and characters that enriched the universe.
@@Auzzie015 When it comes to art, "good" is a point of view . His ideas were good to me, and a lot of other people. Did he execute them perfectly? No. But did the EU go crazy sometimes too? Yes. Not just sometimes, but many times.
Lol humanity at its best. The fact that George imagined something so deep, providing inspiration to many more is the true beauty of it. Yes some manipulate it to "plagiarism" and others just rain money to take over someone else's ideas "cough Disney cough" but all in all, all openions aside. At least we get to see the gem live on. And I think we all can appreciate that in some way 😏
Qui-Gon was Anakin's father, not by blood, but by belief. Qui-Gon would've sacrificed everything for Anakin because he unconditionally believed in him. If Maul hadn't killed him, he would've spent the rest of his life mentoring and advocating for Anakin.
Qui Gon to Anakin: “The force may have been your father… but it wasn’t your Daddy!”
Legends to me is and will always be the correct design of Star Wars for me. So many great story lines that were never seen through that should have been. Han and Leia’s children as well as Luke and Mara Jade, the Shadows of the Empire content are just a couple of pieces that we unfortunately will not be able to see make it to the big screen.
EU/Legends is awesome. 😉
But that is only if the storylines agree with the vision George Lucas has for Star Wars. Some of the storylines don't do that such as Luke being married and having children.
I think Palps and Plagueis meddling too much in the force, the force just straight up decking them, and then making a chosen one to screw em' over is the best explanation.
I honestly prefer saying Plageus being the cause. Him trying to get immortality and it being a response from the force
james luceno is a good author you should read dark lord the rise of darth vader that book is way better the entire sequel trilogy
@TheReturnOfDarthCaedus Yeah I liked that book. It's been so long since I've read it and I'm going to read it again. And yes, way better. Just wish disney could've had a coherent sequel story instead of what we got
@@Michael-th9ti jyour welcome im a big loyal fan of star wars but disney stabed me in the back i only like one charecter in the sequel trilogy but they didnt know how to use him or you know make the charecter better
@@Michael-th9ti i mean come on how can you screw up a story of anakin skywalkers grandson read all 9 legacy of the force books jacen solo aka darth caedus is far better than kylo ren/ben solo
I like this idea because it actually can still use Palpatine and Plagaus as causing Anakins birth. Not directly but because of there meddling the force itself made Anakin as there champion to combat there evil and once again bring balance to the force. So when.Palpatine says I'm responsible for Anakins birth he actually is in a round about way! This is the best solution as I wasn't happy with Palpatine being Anakins father!
The way I understood it is that in Legends, Darth Plagueis without Sidious was indirectly responsible for Anakin's creation as the Force reacted to a particular action of him. In Canon, this indirect responsibility is shifted to Darth Sidious. And it seems George Lucas initially thought that both Sith Lords were involved.
The way I see it, the Chosen One was always going to be born. It was just a matter of when. When the Sith grew so powerful that the Force needed to combat it with the Chosen One. Palpatine and Plagaus merely decided when. But that doesn't make them his father. The Force is Anakin's father. They just triggered the Force's creation of Anakin. But the Force itself is his father.
It is poetic to think that the ultimate weapon designed by the Sith, is what killed them.
Ever since Grogu came about and we learn that he's the same age as Anakin, I have started to think they are a dyad that the Force created to balance each other out. I'm starting to think Yoda's species may not be a naturally evolved species, but creations of the Force.
I had this same exact thought today.
Started thinking about timeliness and how everything fits into place. Then realized Grogu and Anakin are about the same age.
Kinda makes sense for Yoda's species to be created by the force, especially since there's really no origin to either of the three (Yoda,Yaddle,Grogu). If only Yoda lived to be 1000yrs old, then that would just be a definite no brainer, cuz 1k yrs ago Darth Bane created the rule of 2, which definitely would've created an unbalance to the force. Maybe the force was 100yrs late on creating Yoda?
Personally, I do believe Palp placed Anakin. Maybe Grogu was the actual creation of the force, and not Anakin.
I have mixed feelings on this. On the one had, having the sith being the architects of their own destruction is a sweet form of poetic justice. But on the other hand, Lucas already did the "I am your father" in Empire Strikes Back and it would seem like he was doing a repeat.
He has said that Star Wars is about generations of this family, so it would fit what he is thematically going for. It'd be a direct call forward, and contrast how Anakin chose to join the Dark side, while Luke rejected it. In a way, it would be saying that the previous generation does not determine your fate. The sins of the father are not the child's.
I loved the idea that Palpatine created Anakin, with Palpatine giving him a crazy midichlorian count and intervening with him and the jedi so he could become the perfect Sith Apprentice to help Palpating achieve his master plan of galactic domination, and the irony that Anakin destroys Palpatine, his own “father” and how that can connect to Luke choosing not to destroy _his_ own father
The force is Anakin's father. The mediclorines made Shimi conceive Anakin in her womb because it was said in the first prequal movie, there was no father. She conceived, gave birth and couldn't really explained it to Gui-Gon Jinn.
The events with “Father”, the “Son” and “Daughter” show that Anakin was a demigod
@@WillNelson73 bro ive never thought about this before, and it actually makes a lot of sense
It's like Jesus, the holy spirit and God, very religious xD.
The force is like the soul of the nature and i love that explanation. The nature is his father, that means Anakin is just an essence from nature and only human in his body but not in his soul/force. It’s just like i believe real life was made. That the god is nature and the nature lives and made us all. Feels like i got alot bigger connection to anakin after this.
I really enjoyed how the clone wars portrayed anakin, he seemed way more intelligent and adult like, the prequels really didn't do him justice always making him seem childish and inpatient, and they way they portrayed his love for padme was weirdly obsessive, like creepy dangerous obsessive to the point where he ended up choking her out while she was pregnant with his kids, that just never made sense to me. I think a big part of why the clone wars final season didn't show anakins pov was because they just didn't know how to make a character they built up for so long seem so foolish and easily manipulated. If we ever got a reboot in the future I would love to see a more composed adult like anakin and some romantic feelings beyond just plain obsession, and I feel like the prequels didn't really show how dark anakin was inside he frequently would tap into the dark side and use force choke and even kill some of his opponents, but we didn't get much of that out of him till the 3rd movie so the whole turn to the dark side felt rather sudden. All that in mind though I do love the prequels just some minor details in my opinion could've greatly improved them and we might have even gotten a continuation much sooner.
Was him massacring a village too subtle for you?
a reboot of prequels?
The prequels made Aniken/Vader just seem like a spoiled rotten child throwing a tantrum .. gotta love the deadrat and their woke wisdom ..
Yeah, honestly I like the idea of Palpatine influencing the Force to create Anakin, that was always obvious since RotS but that doesn't make him his father, I hate when people say Palpatine was supposed to be his "father", there is nothing of him in Anakin, and he's not a father figure later either, just a good "friend" to Anakin when he grew up and even later his master, that's all, Anakin still come from the Force and the midichlorians, even if Palpatine made it happen, but nothing connects Palpatine and Anakin
The idea would mean that kylo and Rey are related. This making it that if rey has kids they would be Skywalker meaning the Skywalker Saga was not over
I like to think that palpatine and plagaus were responsible for the creation of Anakin but were only able to succeed due to the force helping the sith to create him so he could lead to there demise
If Disney kept Palpatine as Anakin’s father it would’ve made it weird for Ben Solo and Rey because there distant relatives but would make it more accepted for her to be Rey Skywalker at the end of episode 9, and kinda saved all of the backlash
It makes sense to have this be a saga about the merging of the light and the dark. A “resetting” of the force users back to what they were originally: grey.
Sidious was exclusively dark. Anakin was trained in the light by traditional Jedi, went to the dark, then died in the light. Luke was largely trained by the ancient Jedah texts, and he trained Leia and Ben Solo. Leia and Luke trained Rey, who turned out to be a diad in the force with Ben, who ultimately bring down Sidious.
At the end, the Jedi are no more. The Sith are no more, and the only trained force Wielder left is basically a user of both the light and the dark: a grey. And the force is brought back into balance.
LMAO! @0:30 the way Obi-Wan and the trooper pop their heads up as a name was spoken...looked like a couple of Prairie Dogs!
Lucas's original idea is amazing. It ties the prequels and OG trilogy together in a really interesting and dark way - shows how genius that opera scene really is. Could then have been explored further in the sequel trilogy, and also explained Rey's existence.... Though as usual, Disney played the safe happy route and botched it.
Palpatine and Plagueis tried to bend the force to their will, and the force answered with Anakin.
It's canon in my eyes because its good story writing and fits with Star Wars themes so well.
I like the idea that Palpatine medling with the Force for his own gains would eventually bite back. Him knowingly causing a great imbalance in order for the force to create Anakin - hence being the closes thing that he had to a father. The Force, which is impartial, only seeking balance - the reason for why Anakin and his subsequent line exists.
Would love to see further videos on the Star Wars Archives book 👌🏼
A simple DNA test on the Maury Povich Show could solve this...
I always thought the most straight forward, tragic and ultimately relatable choice would have been Palpatine being Anakin's father. Shmi could have been an intern or assistant in Palpatine's office who was dazzled by the charismatic senator. As the romance continued she would unwillingly find out his true nature but before she could reveal the truth, Palpatine would disappear her on some remote shithole planet to live out her remaining days as a slave. This would also enhance his interest when he discovers where Anakin came from
What I like about it being implied rather than directly stated is that it leaves the audience to question if it is true, or if it is a manipulation tactic to turn Anakin to the Dark Side.
I do like that George Lucas took a more subtle approach than just to outright say that Palpatine was the father.
for anyone who actually takes disney's side on the matter needs to be put in their place. I will always believe the person who made the series and actually knows what they are talking about. Not some company that just buys something for the money and spits out random ass shit just to basicly shit on the original creator
"Sidious would return."
And that is where I declare the sequels to be non-canon to me.
What I always thought, since I was a child, is that Anakin was created because Palpatine killed Plaegis. Since he had the power to create life and protect from death, after the discussion in the theater, I thought that because of that power his own death had influenced the force itself and this perturbation resulted as Anakin's birth. No one could even know his origin.
Plegius died during the duel between qui gon, obi wan, and Maul while anakin was already alive and in their care. Palpatine got Plegius drunk and took advantage of it to kill him
Personally I think Palpy being responsible plays into the idea that the biggest downfall of the Sith being there arrogance.
my idea of how he was created is because plaguis was trying to become this immortal Sith Lord and pushing the boundaries of the force so the force counter acted this move by creating anakin and ultimately making him the chosen one who would bring balance.
This is my head cannon too lol.
Since the prequels are canon, I think its pretty clear what Palpatine was implying in the opera scene. Speaks for itself.
I like how it allows even to explain Why Anakin was a slave and why on Tatooine. It was close to Papaltine hometown but without oversee from the republic. Sooner or Latter people would find about that kid and.... Well, by that time...
So That's interesting especially since that was nice subtle move by him to imply it via the the speech he was his father without saying it, thus like many of us the allowing Anakin to imply his own conclusions, it also makes the palapatine connection to the Skywalkers something deeper than "he corrupted that guys dad"
The best part of this is that Anakin being born by Palpatine would imply that Rey is Ben Solo's 2nd cousin once removed. (Palpatine->Anakin->Leia->Ben and Palpatine->Rey's parents->Rey). I guess that kiss at the end of IX really earns her the name Skywalker.
Great video, thanks.
You don’t need to tell me anything about that George. Anakin was always a unique person. That is plenty for me to know. It broke my heart to see him manipulated and hurt like he was though.
Well, someone had to be responsible for his life! It would explain the dangerous bonding of Palpatine and Anakin but I seem to remember a scene where Qui-Gon is analysing Anakin's DNA and mentions something that seemed to imply a force connection in his DNA in the early scenes of the first prequel. So this could imply Dark Side power within the cellular dna of the boy Anakin. Who knows! Also why he fell to the darkness so quickly.
Lucas' Star Wars tends to follow a continuity of cause and effect, there is a reason behind every aspect of his universe, the force is a result of the midiclorians, the empire is the result of Palpatine's puppeteering of the Republic senate, Anakins birth is the result of Palpatine and Pleagus meddling with the force. Disney Star Wars supplements coherent explanation with magic and fate, the force is now full on magic with unexplainable power, the first order's existence is never fully explained in a satisfying way, and Anakin is now the result of the living force just creating a being randomly out of nowhere with no apparent cause to happen at that particular time. I wish they kept George's ideas as the foundation for their new lore :(
Totally amazing video
I really hate the story narrative that the force is somehow an intelligent agent and wants the ''good' / light side to be in total control, punishing the 'bad' dark side, rather than the force simply exists (neither 'good' nor 'bad' but containing elements easier to access depending on light or dark side preference).
But I think the intelligent agent idea is consistent with Lucas' world view, and movies often feel like writers don't understand even basic philosophy but write it into movies anyway.
Though I do love how the Jedi are evolved from egalitarian to dogmatic which led to their downfall, and the way Palatine was different to those who preceded him in the Sith which led to his victory.
I would rather the force be neutral, and the good/bad/light/dark sides be explored by the various faction ideologies.
I don’t think the Plagueis/Palpatine origin for Anakin is at odds with the more cosmic/living force origin. The creation of the chosen one was always going to happen, it was Plagueis who finally crossed the line too far. Time is not linear. Something has to trigger destiny.
That would make sense since Palpatine took on a paternal role for anakin but that would give more to Rey’s connection to the skywalkers than what we saw
Anakin is basically like the Savior in the SW universe
Damn i like that a third of the video is just a long ad
Yes I do want to see more video from George Lukas
First, the archive is vastly more canonical than the Disney dung could ever dream of being... second, Plagueis would've been Anakin's creator, not Palpatine. Plagueis was the only one who could manipulate the Force to create life. Palpatine never learned the secret. Palpatine being aware of what Plagueis had done took it upon himself to take over the 'father figure' role. That's the short version...
Palpatine: Anakin, I am your father.
Anakin: oh, that actually explains a lot come to think of it.
Palpatine as Anakin's father follows long historical and mythological tradition of tragically themed tales of an heir such as a son or grandson destroying their forefathers. There are some historians who believe the Brutus was Julius Caesar's son. If you know the history surrounding that claim and are willing to believe it then Brutus might well have killed his own father without realizing it, just like Vader. In Frank Herbert's Dune Baron Harkonnen is actually Paul's grandfather, unbeknownst to either of them at the time of the Baron's death. Lucas is well known for all the historical and cinematic influences he drew on when creating Star Wars so this kind of makes sense.
If no one at that time knows that Brutus is Caesar's son, then how on earth any other historians who live thousands of years later know Brutus is Caesar's son.
@@limitlesssky3050 It is a pretty well documented fact the Caesar had a long running afair with Brutus'es mother. Many historians point out the Caesar seemed to show a lot of favoritism towards Brutus as well. Also remember I said it's a belief that SOME historians have which is plausible. But that's not really the point is it, I'm just talking about historical and mythological examples of sons destroying their fore father's. You can find plenty of them if you look.
Dune is a major influence on Star Wars, as is EE "Doc" Smith's Lensman books.
Feels right to have the original creator confirm stuff again
After reading the Plagueius novel it was really Sidious continuing Plagueius's work. Since Plagueius novel mentions it.
If Palpatine is made Anakin's father then that would make Luke & Leia, Rey's cousins. Which would really mess up the Rey & Ben Solo romance.
Pro: Either the force moving to create balance itself by creating a being to protect it, or the Sith leading to their own destruction
Con: No, I am your father - Sequel, Anakin/Vader to Luke, Prequel, Palpatine to Anakin.
It just kind of sounds like more rehashing of the same plot points in a different trilogy, but at the same time has a good idea in that if you fight with fire, you can get burnt.
I don’t care if it’s not “cannon.” George intended Palpatine to be Anakin’s father.. so Palpatine is Anakin’s father
And that would make Rey a real Skywalker... careful what you wish for.
@@msgeek703 no it wouldn’t..
I hope that Disney has something in the works on the Jedi who survived order 66 how they managed to evade the empire until Luke Skywalker rebuild the Jedi order
we barely got to see how kylo ren killed his students and destroyed lukes temple bringin back palpatine ruined anakin and lukes journey how can anybody like this crap disney star wars trilogy
This makes that kylo ren and Rei thing that much more creepy...
Vader: I am your father
Sidious: I am your father
Plagueis: I am your father
Tenebrous: I am your father
Was Phase I clone armour stronger than Phase II? Fives is killed by a blaster bolt to his presumably Phase II chestplate, while Rex is hit with one in Star Wars Rebels, lives, and says Phase I is great. So, was it stronger? It seems they're equally useless at stopping blaster bolts in The Clone Wars, so is there another factor at play? Rex's modifications? The age of the droids and their weaponry? Or was Rex's armour just powered by plot?
Rex had better than normal armor?
Also phase I armor stopped the blow, but phase II armor and stormtrooper armor mitigate the blow. Phase I takes more hits, but overload the armor and you're dead. Phase II/Stormtrooper if you overload the armor, you're more likely to live.
From what I understand, Phase I had more durable armor. But it was more cumbersome and uncomfortable. Phase II fit better and offered more mobility. Stormtrooper armor was meant to look intimidating and keep people in line with basic peacekeeping, but wasn't designed for active warfare(cheaper and less resource-intensive. A lot of resources were going to the Death Star).
Arc troopers, Clone Commandos, and the Bad Batch had extra plating so, while likely heavier from extra gear, theirs were probably better all around. But I'd assume more expensive and only used for more special forces types of troopers. Rex modified his armor to be his favorite parts of both Phase I and II. Namely some of the durability in the chestplate and helmet from Phase I, with the mobility and rebreathers from Phase II.
Fives was wearing a stock Phase II rather than his usual Arc trooper armor when he got shot. And the shot was pretty close range. I assume the armor works a lot like our own bullet proof vests by dispersing the energy. So with the close range, the armor couldn't disperse the energy enough to save him. If the range had been further or if he'd been wearing his arc armor he might've been hurt, but okay(like Hunter vs Cad Bane in Bad Batch).
In Rebels, the droids were definitely weaker then during the Clone Wars due to age, disuse, and disrepair. Rex's armor would be in much better shape than the droids because he would be maintaining his gear over the years. So he was wearing a Phase I/II hybrid, hit with a weak shot, and turned out fine.
Pretty sure it was a dig at stormtroopers too.
Love the idea, of the force playing a trick on Palpatine,who tried tempering with the limits. Creating live through the force, and building his ideal Sith apprentice, to end the Jedi. Just for the force to say stop that’s not how this works. And creates Anakin in response, which Palpatine doesn’t know will ultimately be his downfall. Kinda makes the sequels feel even more inconsistent and unfitting in the narrative of the story as a whole. But whatever, nothing we could do about it. Only to not call them canon for ourself I guess.
its like poetry
I mean, if you only look at the first 6 movies, technically, Anakin "brings balance to the force" at the end of Episode III.
2 Jedi and 2 Sith are all that are confirmed to exist, within the movies themselves.
I like both ideas
The Plagus novel implied that in their mockery of the Jedi prophesy and their own arrogance Plagus and Plapatine attempted to create their chosen one and in response for this defilement the force created Anakin the chosen one, to in the end bring about the prophesy. So Palapain is only Anakins father in the same sense as we are the "father" of a building or car or the builders of a nation. In a sense but not according to the flesh.
Drinking game: Take a shot for every time he says “Palpatine”
I would like if the two tried to mess with and bendthe force too much. They fail however they are unaware that they have failed and that merely tricked into thinking they succeeded only for thing to go wrong at the most unexpected times
My theory is this: Anakin is created as a cloning experiment by Palpatine to create a Sith lord that was strongest with the force with midichlorian count made artificially high! But when he was picked up by Qui Gon & Obi-Wan, Palpatine had to change his plan and create clones of a mandalorian warrior! Although anakin eventually turned into a sith lord, there was another clone embryo kept in deep freeze (for backup). Yoda knew this when he said "there is another". But the embryo to grow into a fighting adult would take time when there is an immediate threat of Vader in ep. 4, 5, 6. But Yoda was misunderstood and everyone thought he was talking about Leia! Palpatine's son planted the other clone embryo in his wife as an act of defiance! This child was Rey!
In my eyes, Darth Plagueis is Anakins father. In the book (which I know is no longer canon but fuck that, it is to me) Plagueis learns to manipulate the midichlorians in a way where he can actually kill someone without even lifting a finger. He also at one point experimented with the idea of creating life and when he learned of Anakin’s birth, he became afraid of creating something that could destroy him.
def make videos of GL's orig vision of SW7-9
Always thought that darth plaguous played the role in anikans conception..due to his immense OP power through medichlorines manipulation..by accident and not purposely?!!
How has Disney actually retconned it?
As I see it, and as I always saw it, since the phantom menace, is that Palpatine was responsible for impregnating Shmi Skywalker and is therefore Anakin's father, nothing in the sequels changed that belief, but I did find the Reylo relationship to be a bit uncomfortable 🤢🤮
"Anakin, I am your Father."
Vader went back in time, did it with a young Shmi, and accidentally fathered himself
Fun fact: The idea of Force Conception was first seen in MAD Magazine. They ran a parody article in the 80s about the Skywalkers' family connections getting increasingly complicated with each new movie --- Vader is actually Luke's stepfather, Leia is the daughter of C-3PO and Chewbacca's former girlfriend; that sort of thing. It culminated with saying Star Wars ep. XVIII will reveal that Luke's real father is... the Force itself. (Haha!) Years later we learned it's actually his grandpa.
if palpatine turned out to be his father I would slam my ipad against george’s face
I feel like Lucas should say publicly most of the key events he FEELS is the real canon, but say the opposite. That way, disney will do the reverse and do what Lucas REALLY wanted
I think a great way to "reboot" star wars stories in the movies is to move the story thousands and thousands of years in the past, perhaps even b4 old republic, than establish a narrative or a concept of a "chosen one" or "chosen family lines" that comes around once every 500-1000 years or so that play a big role of either balancing the force or severely unbalancing the force (like the skywalker line), but rather than the skywalkers being the only "chosen ones" throughout history like we always thought, but rather "the chosen one or ones" refers to children who are born once every thousands years or so, that have the power and potential to have great effect on the force In a really great way, or a very terrible way either way it creates new storytelling opportunities that can create NEW (hopefully) classic characters rather than always relying on the old ones!...u can create u new main antagonist or two n explain their significance as one of those kids the "force" creates to have great significance on the force itself. since it's in a completely new ancient time period u can make up new shit that we never heard of because the "original trilogy and prequel era" will be so far removed that the history was lost. u could create a whole new environment far before the government and politics as we know them in star wars,! before the republic, before tarre vizsla, perhaps the mandalorians rulled the galaxy, or perhaps a race we have never even seen or heard of b4 is ruling the galaxy, the jedi n sith could be totally diffrent ideologies that look alot diffrent than we have ever seen them! the possibilities are endless
I think Disney originally intended to have Palpatine be his father, but from a certain point of view Palaptine "Graped" Shmi. Disney probably realized that after the fact and did everything in their power to go back on that.
According to Disney R2 -D2 never was around after episode 2 but was an R5 Unit rounded off to look like R2 placed there by another look alike Droid C3PP to spy on the Jedi and was released to Tatooine with the ever ignorant C3PO once taken in by the rebels. Vader followed both easily and was always able to find Luke & Crew.
I like to think I’m from tattooine. Modesto Ca is the same place that George Lucas grew up and all people do here is dream of how to get away. The Central Valley really does feel like a desert planet sometimes.
Basically Anikan was a weapon of the force...
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Both versions follow a similar concept: The Sith had it coming. One concept is Palpatine's greed getting himself killed in the end, while the other still rails on the idea that the Sith or the Dark-Side needed cleansing over thousands of years, i.e. Anakin born because of the Sith greed. So both still rail on the idea that Anakin was born born to clap the Sith and any who succumbed to the Dark Side (my opinion, the Jedi forwent their ideals the moment they played a role in a very exploitative conflict like war). I'm fine with either.
I actually prefer the (Disney) canon version. The Force created Anakin and he is the chosen one - and through him balance will be achieved. It just works better. However, I like the idea of Palpatine implying the exact opposite to attempt to manipulate and control Anakin for his own ends.
0:31 wait a minute so if this one was true, rey was a decendant of palpatine and if palpatine is darth vader/anakyn skywalker's father then rey and anakyn are related and leia and han solo's son kylo ren is darth vader's grandson but...in the rise of skywalker rey and kylo ren kissed, so they are family, and the kissed. Bruh this is leia and luke all over again lol
im sorry you just put a bad taste in my mouth thank you for putting a bad taste you thats very ice trying hurting me more the sequel trilogy by disney almost destroyed star wars forever kathleen kennedy is still head of lucasfilm but she no longer has power let me repeat kathleen kennedy is still head of lucasfllm but she no longer has power the sequel trilogy were soo bad that i got back into reading legends books the new jedi order legacy of the force and of course the fate of the jedi are far better than the entire sequel trilogy
@@DarthVaderReturns1 lol thanks for the sequal trilogy roasts
@@RenaldoBisnath lol anytime by the way since you loved my roasts im going to sub your channel as a good gesture from one loyal star wars to another ill never unsub you thats for sure as you can see my favorite star wars charecter is jacen solo/darth caedus i also love ben skywalker aina solo fel and anakin solo the true generations of skywalker family and rey is and never ever will be a skywalker she never ever went on the heroes journey first she begins with nothing at the end she gets everything and why would you bury anakin skywalkers lightsaber on tattoonie anakin was a slave there he hated it his mother died there as well why would you want to bury a seriously talented weapon there anakin hated it and luke didnt like it there either how can disney fuck up the end of a sequel trilogy seriously disrespectful to anakin skywalker and also to george lucas
@@DarthVaderReturns1 wow that's long but thx and you're right disney ruined everything
@@RenaldoBisnath just to let you know thank you for reading my reply i only liked kylo ren/ben solo but the directors didnt know how to use him plus adam driver is one of my favorite actors hes the only actor that tryed his best with what was given to him hes seriously is talented you should watch house of guccie
More please
Disney shot themselves in the foot. Keeping this continuity would've better explained Rey calling herself a Skywalker, if Anakin was basically her Uncle
What is “canon” can kiss our ass. I mean the new trilogy isn’t canon to most of us.