Revenge of the Sith DELETED SCENE Finally Reveals Anakin's Father
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I still say the Plagiues book had the best explanation.
Sidious and Plagiues meditated on the Dark Side together to throw the Force out of balance.
The Force didn’t like it, so it retaliated by creating Anakin.
No plaguies created him on his own. He even explains to Sidious he went to far
That still sounds kinda fucking stupid ngl
All of that is so dumb. 😂
@@05goode arbknight is right. George toyed with the idea of Anakin being palatines or plagious’s Kin through this idea but he scrapped it. The force “retaliating” is the most sound explanation we have in legends.
@@05goode Plageius didn’t create Anakin
Had Disney not taken over and made everything that was so well crafted and perfect and turned it to legends, then the darth plagueis novel would have explained the whole situation. Well here we are having everything that was amazing being made non-cannon by Disney it breaks my heart. There are sooooo many great series of books that could have been made into great movies, but instead they threw it all away for a story many don’t even care for. Just my 2 cents
Yeah that's what Disney does... Molest things.
@Golgari Assassin can we make an exception for rebels and rogue one
I'm sorry but a lot of those books where trash and episode one stuff killed star wars Disney is just the death rattle.
Expanded Universe > Disney Canon
In my head, only the Disney sequel is non-cannon :) Join me on the fan-side
In my opinion it's better that he's the prophesied chosen one & leave that air of mystery surrounding him.
We need an extended cut of every Star Wars movie
There’s a google drive link with all the completed deleted scenes before the film was cut.
*MOST Star Wars movies
@@ap3085 link?
Not every
@@ap3085 where🤤
I bet it was Sifo-Dyas, who mind-tricked Shmi into forgetting their “entanglement.”
Never give this a thought but it makes sense with there abilities to see the future.
naah it was clearly Mace Windu who knocked up Shmi
Not only did the force object to manipulation, it did so by allowing the chosen one to fall to the dark side only to reverse their plan through a core light side hidden from the sith that Sidious only saw at the end.
He's space Jesus and his mother is space Mary! Happy Easter.
In the actual book where Darths Plagueis and Sidious are manipulating the midichrlorians, Plagueis actually warns that they must be careful in pushing the force too much or it would prompt a response to balance their manipulations.
I believe that Palpatine, and his master Plagueis, tried to control the force itself, and the force answered back, in the form of the chosen one Anakin.
That sounds like the story of the False God that created the World and then God changed Himself into the Holy Spirit, and Impregnated Sophia, who in her Earthly form called herself Maria or Mary.
We need to see a flashback episode of that
you could say the force... awakened.
But Anakin was not the chosen one…
@@Maynardd ???
People tend to forget that the Sith lie. The whole premise of the conversation about Plaguies with Anakin was to convince him the Sith had answers to his fears, not that any of it was true or not. We know Sidious was the very embodiment of deception so anything he said could be taken with the proverbial 'grain of salt'. The best explanation would be that the Force created Anakin to counter the perversions of the Sith, not that they actually created him.
We know that he also told Anakin in the same conversation that Plaguies could prevent the ones he loved from dying? That was a lie and Sidious knew it but also knew Anakin would be taken in by it So anything Sidious said can't be trusted. His entire existence was based on deception to gain power for himself.
I like to think both happened. The Sith did create Anakin, but the Force played an 'UNO Reverse' card. Little did they know, they had created the means of their own destruction.
I’m taking the opera scene from episode 3 like “Goldstein’s book’ from 1984; the one time they actually told the full, unadulterated truth. It’s designed to make the viewers ponder that odd immaculate conception comment from the first movie and question how much Palpatine actually knew. At bare minimum Plagus/Sidious creating Anakin is definitely cannon, however the methods are officially unknown.
Sounds like Donald trumps political career
I say this pretty much all the time, it goes over people's heads as nothing Palatine said made any sense and so was distorted or lies
Any good deceiver knows the value of telling the truth.
Y'know, if plagiues had just managed to not be murdered for a bit longer, he could have found out his solution to immortality. Not by studying Anakin, but by studying Maul. Apparently just being angry is all you need to never ever die no matter what happens to you.
ah but maul was kiled by obi wan on tatooine in the end.
@@DenverStarkey yeah, because he wasn’t angry anymore.
That lesson was evident long before in the form of Scion
I loved Maul. I hate that he was killed off the movies so quickly.
@@Delicious1922 he didn’t “die”… he showed back up in “Solo” at the end.
I think I'd prefer Anikin's origins to be from the Force itself. Everything doesn't have to tie back to existing characters and their machinations. Let their galaxy have it fantastical elements.
Typical pos disney ruining everything
I agree. George Lucas always had a weird Charles Dickens thing going on where he needs crazy coincidences to link all the characters in the story.
I agree
I think there's too many references of Anakin being a part of Palpatine's overall plan. He uses Maul to kill Qui-Gon so the boy will be trained by the more reckless Obi-Wan, then keeps pulling strings to maneuver his career and his emotions until he's an untrusting, violent, megalomaniac.
@@e13kid YES!!! The Dickensian clichés was the thing I disliked the most in the Prequels.
You didn't show us any deleted scene, just told us in your own words that it was a thing.
Although I do indulge in his videos, he's the weakest Star Wars channel I've found so far. There's been a few videos where he spews incorrect information, made up information, and then stuff like this where he tells us something the proof being "just trust me bro" but doesn't actually show the deleted scene or anything else.
Anakin: "I never had a father."
Sheev: "No, I am your father."
Anakin: "No... no... That's not true! It's not possible."
Disney: No I'm your father.
Search your feelings you know it to be true.
"Search your feelings you it to be true,," NOOOOOOO NOOOOO! LOL
Lmao
Yes! Thank you... finally, a vaguely realistic and embarrassing reason for Shmi to have gotten pregnant with Anakin. If that was me, I would go to my grave never admitting it...😅
So is it a deleted scene or just an abandoned script idea? "Deleted scene" implies they shot it and didn't use it. If that's the case, where's the scene?
Its just click-bait trickery, as always :(
@@autopium Well fuck this shit then.
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Exactly.
Lies, lies and more lies… just say you have a theory, not a scene!! Sheesh!!
I doubt that Sidious would ever have mentioned Plagueis as having anything to do with Anakin’s birth. Except to say that Plagueis developed the ability to manipulate the midi-chlorians, but that he, Sidious, used the talent to create Anakin. Further increasing his hold over him, not just as his master, but as his father as well.
I sidious creating him is dumb plot-wise. It works story-wise but The force creating anakin in a fit of rage against Plagueis is more fitting.
I think the story was told to Anakin as more of an attempt to get him to join the Dark Side against the Jedi rather than “hey, I’m your father! Join me!” It’s bad enough that Disney used this to explain Rey, don’t drag Anakin into it too. They are not siblings.
@@Omega1867 that is the point, Sidious would have lied about having a hand in Anakin’s creation just to increase his hold over him.
@@hpatss4966 No, the Force abhors rage, if you say balancing or for equality then maybe, but not rage.
@@hpatss4966 The plot and the story are the same thing. If it works in the plot, it works in the story, and vice-versa. Unless you meant to use a different word, you’re contradicting yourself.
Anakin and Palpatine on the Space Maury show when?
I feel like their meddling of the force could have made the force its self put these events into action, so it was still the will of the force, but that it was a reaction to their meddling, not their actions itself being the cause
What
Wouldn’t that just make them successful
@@thane1499 no it's like a monkey's paw
The hubris of the wish caused it to turn out the way they didn't want
Side effect of meddling with the force,no need for overcomplicating
That would have been a good enough explanation for me.
Seems like the same explanation I've heard for the last 7 years since watching these videos lol.
Great video. Interesting side thought from this scrapped plot idea. If Darth Plagueis indirectly created Anakin due to overreaching effects of his experimentation with the dark side, wouldn't that be even more fodder that the Force created Anakin out of the need for balance, of the Light, to counteract what the dark forces were working towards? That would mean the prophecy of "the one" would be more accurate than Palpatine's suggestion that Anakin was meant to be a prime Sith. I like this idea a lot, and it makes the whole story of his fall and redemption so many years later, all the more tragic.
I always thought Watto was Anakin’s dad…
😁👍
It was a Tusken Raider
Even without extended scenes, deleted scenes, books, etc, it's already implied by Palpatine that Plagueis is responsible for creating Anakin. That's all I need
As always, you nailed it right on the head!
I really want to say your dive into the Star Wars Lore is awesome. Revealing things that are often really cool and insightful. Thanks for sharing. I do have one comment. My suggestion would be that all the videos the content is repeated or said over. Making the video feel like it you could turn it off half way and not lose anything. May I recommend not doing that but rather I would love you to share your thoughts or do some “what if’s” rather than simply repeating content.
I just go with what was on screen. The Force did it. Anakin did bring balance, he brought the decadent Jedi who had become stagnant and brittle to an end and he then usurped the Sith who had become too bloated with power. In the end there was balance, both light and dark were no longer concentrated in two warring organizations.
Damn. I didn't think anyone got it. Anakin did bring balance to the force. Balance does not mean that the sith die and the jedi flourish. The sith always only have 2. Master and apprentice. After what anakin did, everything was brought into balance. Only 2 prominent jedi remained. Yoda and Obi-wan. Thus balance. These wannabe star wars professors are missing it all together. Obi-wan was the only jedi to ever say anakin was supposed to destroy the sith. All others just said "chosen one" and bring balance to the force. Everyone misses the fact that Obi-wan got it wrong. And that's the harsh truth. These guys need to stop trying to manifest some grand plan by George Lucas. This was his plan. There is no alternative outcome. Anakin fulfilled his destiny
Unfortanetly that is not true. Because Vader didn't actually kill the emperor, as we know now.
I just realized that Anakin never got the title master, not even as a sith cause he was darth sidious apprentice until he died.
Well, he was ahsokas master while he was still a jedi...if you consider the clone wars show to be canon. She even referred to him as master several times
@@SephirohsReunion i think she used that word for "teacher"
@@SephirohsReunion I mean clone wars is canon
I dunno man, Anakin had pretty fatherless behavior
Love this would make so much sense his literally Anakins Father in the shadows he was always by his side 😭😂 even when Padmee was with Anakin as chancellor he was like that's my boy lol
You turned her against me!
You have done that yourself!
This is your own masterpiece
Unintelligent reports suggest that plageus(spelled?) and Palpatine did influence the force to create anakin but the force didnt directly insert its will(y) into schmee(spelled? ) . Through a small hole in the 4th wall the force influenced George Lucas to create anakin in the years following episode 6 . That is a testament to how powerful the force actually is. Not only influencing a higher reality but influenc the 4th dimension in that higher reality. However those reports cannot be confirmed
Plageuis, Shmi
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actually lucas wrote vaders/anakins back story (at least the larger beats of it) before finishing empire strikes back., once he decided that vader was going to be anakin skywalker he knew he had to come up with a back story to fill in the character's motivations better as well as explain how he became a cyborg .
@@DenverStarkey wow the force is crazy 🤪. It influenced lucas before it even knew it influenced lucas to create anakin . Thats like some 6th wall ish😅
Plagueis created Anakin, Palpatine found out and killed Plagueis, so that he could eventually gain Anakin as a apprentice. He knew how powerful Anakin could become.
Luke, Leia, I've got something awkward to tell you about your grandpa...
Once more the Sith will rule the galaxy... and we shall have peace.
Makes sense, although Palpatines plan to transfer himself into Anakin failed when Vader became more machine than man - and his plans for Vader had to change. Essence transfer did not originate with Plagueius however, Tenebrae and Vitiate had used it, and Andandu before him - although they did it thru Sith alchemy. This knowledge was lost to the "rule of two" Sith due to the 1 sith of the line who deviated from the grand plan and followed the light. What Was new to Plagueius was his use of midichroians rather than Sith Alchemy to achieve life.
The Force used Plagiues's experiment and created Anakin, the one to bring balance to the force.
Hello, question please : )
The animated footage around 4:20 - 4:22 - what's that from?
Thanks!!
Amazing
I think the reason Luke said that the Jedi must end is because in order to have great light side power the opposite must exist. To remove the powerful darkness the powerful light had to be extinguished. I don't like it, but I can see that point of view.
And though it was long ago in a different galaxy, that idea succeeded thus removing force sensitive sentient beings from the universe. at least for us... :) May the force be with you.
I see it completely differently tbh. I think Luke saying something like that actually was subservient to an idea or ethos actually completely outside of the Star Wars story in any capacity. And its allegiance to that rather than the story or its development is one of main reasons why so many decades-long fans of the SWU despise its current iteration.
@@Grenaden86 I can see that point of view and I respect it...
@@Grenaden86 The current SWU isn't worth following. Challenge creates betterment. The current mythos doesn't promote betterment. You're right, it promotes subservience.
I thought, by way of the Plagueis novel, that Plagueis was afraid that the force or midichlorians or whatever created Anakin as a form of backlash to punish him for his experimentation in the creation of life.
Made more sense than what I was thinking.
I would be fine with Disney’s direction with cannon id they would just do 3 things:
• Make Darth Plagueis Novel cannon
• Make the Darth Bane trilogy cannon
• Find a way to undo the Sequel trilogy as cannon (it wasn’t even a real story…they just crammed bits and pieces from past SW movies to create nostalgia)
I know about u and the boys
Also make Starkiller cannon
I think the original, vague explanation works best. Anakin is an anomaly, sent by the force to fulfil the prophecy.
Simple, easy. Works fine.
They clearly intended to explain it tho, and they started to in that theater scene. Cat's out of the bag.
I want to know what is the music played at the end of this video? That is amazing!!
This was answered in the comics years ago ."Anakin's father is The Emperor. Palpatine manipulated the Midi-chlorians inside of Shmi's womb to create Anakin."
The official novelization for The Return of the Sith also explained it outright by stating the same ......it just never made it to the movie and was left up to ambiguity.
Remember, the question relating to Anakin's father at the beginning of the video is, "Where did Anakin come from?" The idea that Plagiues inadvertently created Anakin using sith alchemy seems conclusive regardless the sith lord's intentions. That Palpatine presented himself as a father figure fits into the overarching theme of the Star Wars franchise: Quigon was a father figure to Anakin and Obi-Wan; Palpatine became a father figure to Anakin; Obi-Wan was a father figure to Luke; Yoda was a father figure to many; Anakin was a father figure to Ashoka and Luke; etc. But such a theme about father figures does not answer where Anakin came from.
It was Jar Jar all along! 😀
May the Force be with you, always
Let’s GOOOOO BABY, LOVE YALL
I literally said this same thing a little while back in another one of your videos and got so many people telling me I was wrong and correcting me. I hope they all watch this video.
The idea of revealing the Sith to be responsible for Anakin's conception was a scrapped plot point that Lucas believed tarnished the validity of Anakin's status as chosen one, so it was ultimately removed. It was never considered canon. In the Plagueis novel of legends, the Cosmic Force retaliated against the Sith for their meddling with the midi-chlorians. In current canon, the official explanation is the Force conceived Anakin to destroy the Sith.
The official novation spelled it out outright that Palpatine created him.
By the time the movie was released, it was left to ambiguity.
When Shmi gives her explanation, I always get the impression that she just did not want Anakin’s father in her life so she has pretty much cut off any reference to him. I feel it was a real person, and she knew who he was. She just did not want to have anything to do with him nor does she want her son to have any connection to him.
Yeah, I imagine she wasn’t the only slave woman whose child had no father she was willing to acknowledge.
I always got the impression that she might have been pimped out. It explains why she did not want to remember the father and, given her status as a slave, it also covers the fact that she wouldn’t have been free to have a romantic relationship.
@@andreagriffiths3512 you may be onto something there!
brilliant idea
Always thought Qui-Gon Jim could’ve been another alternative for Anakins father
Disney just screws everything up,it was perfect the way it was
It's so funny how everyone gets so into this and tries to make sense out of it. Just go back and read Lucas' original treatments or listen to his interviews. That's why all of this is so convoluted and people have to search for "true explanations." There isn't one, George was making it up as he went along hahahahahaha. As long as I have the original trilogy I'm happy. Prequels are cool too, but I can't live without episodes 4 through 6.
LOL, yeah that is how I remember it too, that George was making things up as he went but still fun to try and link them together.
Seriously, all the comics, novels, and games (and this point, the entire franchise) is glorified fan fiction. Literally hundreds of different writers blurting out goofy, convoluted nonsense just because people will pay for anything Star Wars related.
The simple explanation is Plagueis created Anakin in some random slave woman (either intentional or by accident), Sidious found out about the being powerful with the force, killed his master and created a plan to guide the child into one day becoming his apprentice. With Sidious controlling the political arena and this new Force powerful apprentice enforcing his Law, he would be unstoppable.
What is the name of that music at the end of the video?
The makers of the Mandalorian probably know this about Plagueis and are building upon it. I don't think it's a coincidence that Anakin and Grogu were born in the same year. Maybe they're a dyad like Rey and Kylo.
But anakin was dead by that time
@@aaaaaaaaa3515 I was thinking the same thing but isn't Grogu like 50 years old in The Mandalorian? Could put his birth year around the time Anakin was born.
If you think about it Anakin was the chosen one he truly brought balance by destroying the Jedi he brought light and dark closer together 2 main Jedi and 2 main sith
Hello, what is the name of the music at 08:02 ? Thank´s
Happy Easter to anyone reading this!
It would explain why Anakin had such loyalty to Palpatine in his fall to the dark side if he thought that Palpatine was his father. It would also add a layer of emotion and explanation to why he approached Luke the same way. Might explain Vader's hesitation dispatching the emperor later.
Anakin has loyalty to Palpatine because he was pretty much screwing with Anakin’s head and tainting him toward the dark side since they met. He tricked Anakin into think thinking they were friends and that Palps was the ONLY one who could save Padme. I very much doubt it’s because of “familial ties”. Palpatine is not Anakin’s father.
The movies really should have spent more time on the mentorship and father figure aspects of Anakin's relationship with Palpatine and less time on the boring political intrigue. Yes, given what the movies presented, it's hard to believe Anakin would just toss Obi-Wan under the bus for Palpatine.
@matt jones- as much as Anakins relationship with his father figure palpatine mattered, that's not the reason he chose palpatine over obi wan. The reason he chose palpatine was because of his love for his wife Padme. He has the gift of seeing the future and everything he saw up until that point came true. Most notably, his mother dying and him not being able to do anything about it because of obi wan nor listening to him in episode 2. He blamed obi wan for the loss of his mother and because of that lost a lot of trust in his brother. So combine his fear of losing padme, with his trust in palpatine to save her and his resentment and lack of trust in obi wan and you have the perfect recipe of ingredients for him to do what he did.
Isn't there a Darth Vader comic from a few years ago that explains this?
Yes idk why He didnt mentioned that
@@P4Tri0t420 cuz it was de-canonized
@@mylife-23 it was never decanonized, it just implied that kylo ren and reys kiss later on was kind of incest if Palpatine fathers both of them lol. Only the writer tried to explain it away by basically saying "it was part of vaders vision and not reality"
@@RevanMartinez I heard they said the comic wasn't canon
My fan theory is his mom was wildin’ out at the Cantina and got knocked up.
Yes
I don't think plagueis had any influence on Anakin Skywalker turning to the dark side I think the screwed up methods of the Jedi persuaded him to join the dark side
I had figured that, near the end of "Return Of The Jedi" , when Palpatine, Darth Vader, and Luke Skywalker were in Palpatine's throne room, that there were three generations of one family in that scene! I believe that a young Senator Palpatine had an affair with MS. Skywalker, then used a Sith mind wipe to erase the memory of the affair from her mind before selling her into slavery!
“MS?” Do you mean “Shmee Skywalker?”
This sounds perfectly plausible to me.
also why Siths don't go in proper jedi training and are always found later by other siths makes sense why ani wouldn't be noticed by the Jedi order as a child
@@tephyrula I think you missed something that had appeared in Episode 1. When Anakin Skywalker first met Qui-Gon, he was approximately 8 years old and had very little idea of any special significance or direction as to his future!
The theory that makes the most sense to me is, that the force created Anakin as an answer to Plagueis experiments. I believe that the Jedis and the Siths prophecys of the chosen one where originally the same. It prophesied one great chosen one of the force. But over hundreds of years they interpreted it to their own advantage and the prophecys we know were formed. So when Plagueis tried to manipulate the midi-chlorians to create the Sith version of the chosen one the force answered and created the real chosen one.
If this theory might be correct; Than I think it could be used as a set of events that had happened in a parallel dimension, and the alternate version of (Anakin Skywalker) came into existence this way.
I think that the way the story plays out on screen is the best explication.
It’s not a mystery as to who his father is. He is merely the creation of the force. That’s enough. There’s no need to take that wonderful mystical explanation and try to make it analytically dull by giving him a concrete explanation.
Somethings are better off left alone.
In actuality, keeping it mystical that the force created him, makes it more intriguing in that natural universal forces tried to intervene so much that in creating this chosen one, he was still left to the actual living beings to raise and instill values. Which ultimately failed big time!
Do the actual medical sciences have anything remotely akin to midi-chlorians? The closest I have been able to guess is "mitochondria", which I under- stand to be an intracellular structure serving as a mecha- nism to create energy (I infer chemically). I arrive at this through enjoying an excellent vocabulary; however, my scientific knowledge is rather haphazard.
@@DavidRLentz yes sir! One of the jobs of the Mitochondria is to produce ATP which is one of the byproducts of breaking down glucose. ATP is then utilized by cells in your body for them to work & function properly.
However, restructuring the power of the mitochondria to access the will of the force is something that cannot be taught by a Jedi. 😉
Did you know that darth plaeguis manipulated the midichorians to impregnate shmi and give birth to Anakin and that's what palpatine explained in telling the Legend of darth plaeguis the wise and that's why shmi got impregnated with midichorians and so she give birth to Anakin who, later, listen to Palpatine tell him the Legend of darth plaeguis the wise and...... You got the idea..
Plagius is your real grandfather,Luke.
Vader comics. The Plagueis/Sodius explanation isn’t a fan theory. It’s canon.
Here is my thoughts. Palpatine learn from The sisterhood of Karn. During his time on Karn where he met the Time Lord morbius. 20 years before Anakin was born. That's how he learned to manipulate the force. Through morbius and his third generation
Had Anakin's birth been carefully arranged, then too would his childhood have been overseen and guided. The fact that it was NOT (guarded, overseen or guided) means that it just didn't happen that way. These are all AFTER THE FACT considerations and arrangements - (like saying Rick Deckard was a replicant, for example). That is not how the original script was written. Any attempt to make it BETTER written is simply an attempt to make a failed situation look better after-the-fact. I don't buy it.
It is entirely possible that Plagueis and Sidious mucked about but didn't find out, so they thought they failed but had (somewhat) succeeded, but through that quirk of fate failed to have full control over Anakin.
I personally like the reasoning for Anakin's birth, being because the force answered the Sith Lords trying to bully it!!!!
I like to believe that anakin was the force itself manifesting itself as a human, however that manifestation had no knowledge of being the force itself, but could still tap into the power (I know it’s far fetched)
I buy it!
I agree. If George pulled it from the movie its not canon. Jar Jar was supposed to be the most powerful being in the universe but he scrapped that after "fan" critiques
It would make sense with the newer movies and Ray and Ben having such a strong connection, and the light saber calling to her. So in a way kinda like how Luke and Leah kissed each other Ray and Ben repeated that.
I prefer the explanation that Anakin was a mistake made by Plaguis. The channel itself established that The Force itself hates the Sith, because they use The Force, rather than work with it. Darth Plaguis, and Sideous likewise, were doing a lot of messing around with trying to bend the Midichlorians to their will, and The Force itself kept resisting their experiments with failures. But what was revealed somewhere in the Canon, that escapes me at the moment, the most common result of their failures was some being extremely saturated in Midichlorians, above 20 thousand stands out. With all those failures by the Sith, and their experiments being done so close to Naboo, it makes a lot of sense that this sentient Force would have an equal reflex to literally ballance itself out within the general area of space. I know a lot of people hated the first Prequel movie, but we do find out that even a damaged ship can make it from Naboo (where the experiments were attempted) to Tatooine quite easily with a damaged Hyperdrive. As Naboo and Tatooine are so opposite in climate and diversity of life, it does make sense that The Force itself balanced out the failures by, itself, collecting a high density of Midichlorians into Shmi Skywalker, a person who is so far detached from a Sith, that she becomes the most logical vessel for a Force-Induced Conception. The reason Anakin survived, and the attempts to create vessels for the Sith to never die did not, would be because The Force doesn't have to manipulate anything, it already permiates life itself, and is involved in the creation of new life anyways. It would have been as normal a creation as any other birth, with only the dense Midichlorian count being any influence on how The Force ITSELF Created this particular child.
Is Anakin the "Ancient" Chosen One prophesied by both the Sith and the Jedi? Is he "the Chosen One" that the Force Wielders of Morbis were waiting for? In all honesty, we can't be sure. What isn't in Canon anywhere, is the exact detailed writing of what THE PROPHESY of The Chosen One actually was. We have nothing to differentiate between the Jedi, Sith, and Morbian interpretations of it. We don't even know when the Chosen One was actually entered into the culture of those who interacted with The Force. Even Darth Bane somewhat fits The Chosen One from The Sith point of view. So, until there's an In-Canon release of the text of The Chosen One/The One we really can't know for sure.
Nicely written
I prefer the explanation that the FORCE created Anakin. This makes it so that, in the end, of what I consider Canon(1-6) Anakin did in fact bring balance to the force like the prophecy told, by KILLING Palpatine.
Seems interesting that thousands of Jedi and a few Sith means that the Sith is the heavier side. Balance to me seems exactly as it played out, Order 66.
@@michaelwelk8124 Brutal!!!
@@mortisnoctu agreed
With what we have now, I don't like the idea that Palpatine or Plagueis could have been Anakin's father. Otherwise, it means that Anakin never was a Chosen One (since the prophecy was more like a lie or untrue, as implied in Matt Stover 's revenge of the Sith), and because it means Anakin was destined to fall to the dark side (since his birth was unnatural to begin with).
Another way to look at it is the Force Sensitive Skywalkers are a fluke in the Force, throwing off the balance because of how powerful they are, so they needed to die in order for there to be true natural balance.
Anakin eventually "kills" the Empire. Also, his daughter, Leia, gives birth to Ben, who eventually joins with Rey to finally destroy the Emperor's clone.
Palpy shot his force juice into Shmi from across the universe.
A free mason's journey of knowledge in the occult is called "The Great Work".
"Plagiues impregnated Shmi, although inadvertently."
Yeah.....always double-wrap.
Here’s the thing I always thought that Aniken‘s father was literally the FORCE think of it Palpatine basically use the force to make smei Skywalker become pregnant with Anakin so I always thought that the Force was literally Anakin‘s father
Yes the literal force created anakin
@@ayalovesgaming599 It’s kind of ironic when you think about it because palpatine basically just fulfilled the prophecy for the Jedi lol
If Palapatine is Anakin’s father then Rey really does have a legitimate claim to the Skywalker lineage, doesn’t she?
That's the only explanation for it
Forget about Rey.
She does not exist. The last 3 movies should not be considered as part of Star Wars
@@hsafootballworld1321 she does exist the sequels happened deal with it or rage against the universe forever
@@charlieclark9552 dont care what you say. It does not exist for me.
The last 3 movies were a big joke
I need to read these books. Where should I start?
Whats the background music?
Force Child Support!!
we need a series about Revan it would be way more interesting than what they doing lately .
Waiting for Maury Povich to pop out of somewhere
If this had been implemented as an explanation for the conception of Anakin, essentially by parthenogenesis, it should have been flawed by Anakin being male, since Shmi lacked the Y chrimosome.
I like this theory. I always thought that if the force itself was the father of Anikin then he was the one to bring balance to the force, but the jedi distorted it and thought it meant destroying the sith. But if you look to the yin/yang symbol where they are elements that are conflicting yet harmonious then you will realize Anikin was also going to be a sith. The sith were almost gone and it distorted the balance. The jedi, the sith is also said the light side, the dark side or good and evil. Whichever you use you will not know one without knowing the other. I think this is proven when you look at the most powerful jedi and sith, they use abilities from both sides of the force. But by confusing Anikins emotions, it made him more reckless, so a balance was not met and the dark side gained the upper hand. So in short, the aragance of the jedi made the situation worse
According to Wookieepedia The Star Wars Wiki Darth Plagueis after learning how to manipulate the midi-chlorians to resurrect the dead, create life and attempt to discover immortality The Force fought back and conceived Anakin to combat the threat of the new power The Sith were discovering but also The Father was losing his power and Anakin was to be his successor as revealed in The Clone Wars episode: Overlords.
Actually Anakin did destroy the Sith, he killed Palpatine and in doing so himself. No more Sith!
@@robpolaris5002 Palpatine/Sidious survived the fall down the reactor shaft and the destruction of the Death Star 2 because through Plagueis' teachings he had learned how to transfer into a new cloned body and basically resurrected himself. Anakin had fulfilled the prophecy of The Chosen One and brought balance to The Force as Qui-gon had predicted. It was not the end of The Sith though as after Palpatine transferred his living essence to a new body and hid out on Exegol for the next 35 years before finally revealing himself during the final battle on The Rise of Skywalker. He had hoped to achieve immortality and rule the galaxy for 10,000 years like Plagueis before him but because Kylo Ren/Ben Solo transferred his life force into Palpatine's granddaughter: Rey she was able to call on the powers of all the past Jedi, including Anakin and finally destroy Palpatine, his Sith eternal cultists and The Sith once and for all. Technically because Rey called on Anakin and the other past Jedi, Anakin was still there to fulfill the prophecy and destroy The Sith forever.
@@baddriversofmoosejaw8681 I personally don't count the sequels in my head canon, lazy writing destroyed those films, the fact that they had to explain Sidious' return in companion books rather than actually doing it in the films was shit.
@@deluxgamer999 That's fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Is it a Plagueis/Darth Jar Jar scene? Hi btw
Yes
in a comic released during the new trilogy, at the end it showed Palpatine touching Anakin's mothers stomach and saying "The Chosen One." it wasnt Palpatine himself, it made it seem like he was a ghost the mother didnt see or something.
The body transference as a form of motivation for Sidious could be seen as temptedion to take Anakin but he ruined his body... then to find out he has a son... the sith burn through bodies like fire through newspaper
I would have believed that Shmee created Anikin through the will to be free, and he would bring peace to the galaxy. Could her strong will have been touched by the sithe, therefore creating an anomily? After all, Anikin was not the saviour, but his children were. The creation of life needs male and female attributes.
That's stupid. And your wrong anikan was the chosen one.
I'm confused. How is Palpatine the father if Plagueis' experiments brought Anakin into existence? Earlier in the video you said Plagueis created him but then claimed there was no ambiguity that Palpatine was his father. Did they conduct the Force experiments together and Anakin has two dads? Personally I've always loved the idea that Palpatine created Anakin but your video seems to offer two contradictory answers about that.
(To all of you) It was BOTH Darth Plagues and Darth Sidious (Sheev Palpatine) being responsible for ''Anakin's existence'' using Sith Alchemy, But more to do with Plagues power who did the actual impregnation of Shmi Skywalker by ''influencing the Midichlorians to create life'' as Palpatine said as he turns directly to Anakin, The result was the exact opposite of what they wanted, But metaphorically Palpatine (still alive unlike Plagues) is Anakin's father due to being the one who continued to encourage him with praise, and saying how ''the Jedi feared his potential power'' That's what (I think) He means when he says Darth Sidious is Anakin's father, as he is also responsible for influencing and seducing Anakin to the dark side (with the hope of saving Padme with this knowledge Palpatine did in fact learn with Plagues during their experiments) They are both Anakin's father ''metaphorically speaking'' But it was the Midichlorians that chose to create Anakin as being of light, instead of the dark being they hoped to create, Ironically Anakin became what Plagues would have wanted due to Palpatine befriending and mentoring Anakin (Something mentioned more than once and often forgotten by some fans) They were close friends and the Jedi didn't like that at all, as they began to suspect Palpatine of being the corrupt villain he truly was.
@@greedmachine666 stop talking crap
@@FokusEnzo I know what I'm talking about, and I'm correct on every part of my comment, Read the novel ''Darth Plagues'' it's Not Crap !!!
@@greedmachine666 na its deffo crap damn you really are a nerd
I agree - these videos are too verbose and end up confusing. I guess the answer is that plagues made the medichlorians make anakin - so he was the actual creator/nature father. But palpatine/sidious groomed him and turned him to the dark side as a nurture father.
With Rey being a palpatine though by blood, it’d be more interesting if palpatine’s blood was used in a alchemical experiment to drive the force to create anakin.
The idea that all beings created by manipulating the force actually grow to destroy the same manipulators who made them to begin with is a cool closed loop. Imagine Rey was another attempt at an anakin style coercion of the force.
Also what is shmi doing just hanging out with such a bad ass last name?!
It is Plagueis who is The Phantom Menace .,...you never see him but he is the one who started the menace .....and by Palpatine killing him ( his master as in the Rule of Two ) , Pslpatine was possessed by Plagueis and all the former Sith before him.
Palpatine: "I need your help son"
Jar Jar to Shmi: Weesa havin a babee? Weesa havin a boy! Yippieee!!!!
Man look I'm sick of all this. At the end of the whole saga im pretty sure we're gonna find out that Darth bane has been behind it all #LongLiveTheSith
This makes total sense as Zannah flexed the hand that Bane was having trouble with at the end of the 3rd book of its series.
@@nomad_syndrome1490 exactly
Cool vid
I was SO DISAPPOINTED, the second after I heard Shmi Skywalker state, in Episode I: "There was no Father..." It ruined a large part of the (potential for the) character of Anakin Skywalker, and The Skywalker Family, for me. I always wondered who the Father of Anakin Skywalker would be, and what his exploits were in life, before marrying, and having a firstborn Son...I wondered if he was Force-sensitive, as well, and may have even become a Jedi himself, but, left it, due to a personal spiritual crisis, which would explain why The Jedi Order was so wary of allowing another Skywalker in to the fold. To this day, I would like to see a one-off movie depicting the life history or The Skywalker Twins' Grandfather, even if he weren't a Force-user.
Plagueis
Agreed
essentially he's like Jesus of the star wars universe and shmi is the virgin Mary, the father is the force or god..
Strong disagree. Anakin's conception being immaculate, as if he was conceived by the force itself, makes so much more sense for him as the Chosen One and is a much more interesting origin that makes him as unique and special as he is supposed to be, rather than just being some guy with a normal father who happens to be highly force sensitive.
Lines up with Uncle Owen’s dialogue