One kidney, please! - NVIDIA RTX 4090

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  • čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
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    The 4090 is here! We can't turn it on or talk about performance at all, but we stole the Zotac 4090 Extreme Airo GPU from Labs so we can unbox it for you and talk about what we should expect from 4090 performance.
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    0:00 Our 4090 FE was stolen
    0:53 Unboxing and basic specs
    2:36 Initial design impressions
    3:12 What we know about performance
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    4:32 DLSS 3, RTX Remix, AV1 Encoding
    8:31 More on design and current 3090 pricing
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Komentáře • 4K

  • @ShortCircuit
    @ShortCircuit  Před rokem +1420

    Stay tuned to LTT for the full 4090 review coming soon! Would you consider buying a 4090? What GPU do you have right now?

    • @fake3187
      @fake3187 Před rokem +59

      AMD Radeon 6600... 😷
      Ryzen 5600x

    • @Snikpoh1390
      @Snikpoh1390 Před rokem +34

      3070. I would like to upgrade to a 40 series so I can 4k game with less stress on my GPU.

    • @matthewjalovick
      @matthewjalovick Před rokem +12

      I have a Razer Blade 14 with a 3070. Bought it in the summer of ‘21 for a solid PCVR experience to couple with my Quest 2 and I have no regrets :) everything is between 100-120fps in VR.

    • @Azrael8
      @Azrael8 Před rokem +32

      Sticking with AMD.

    • @Max-xx6lu
      @Max-xx6lu Před rokem +15

      3070 3700x enough for now

  • @FatUberUddersOfChaos
    @FatUberUddersOfChaos Před rokem +7815

    With the size of these things its starting to feel like installing a PC into your PC.

    • @oiytd5wugho
      @oiytd5wugho Před rokem +141

      funnily enough pcie "PCs" (DPUs, SmartNICs, etc) are much, much smaller

    • @Renuclous
      @Renuclous Před rokem +294

      Well, for all intents and purposes, a gpu IS a PC inside your PC. It has a processor, „chipset“, memory, in- and output IO and Power delivery circuitry.

    • @Todd_Manus
      @Todd_Manus Před rokem +47

      @@Renuclous Nooooooo..... A PC is a PC, not because of only hardware... software is part of the equation.. Linux, Windows, macOS.

    • @Napert
      @Napert Před rokem +102

      @@Todd_Manus firmware

    • @Antifuzz1
      @Antifuzz1 Před rokem +81

      yo dawg i heard you like PC's

  • @manankakkar4888
    @manankakkar4888 Před rokem +2070

    Just in time to function as a space heater in winters.

    • @aryadhole
      @aryadhole Před rokem +13

      😂

    • @davidlazarus67
      @davidlazarus67 Před rokem +111

      Yes but will anyone in Europe be able to afford to run it?

    • @chitorunya
      @chitorunya Před rokem +30

      @@davidlazarus67 good thing not everyone lives in Europe then.

    • @davidlazarus67
      @davidlazarus67 Před rokem +30

      @@chitorunya Yes but more than double North America. We are a much bigger market than the USA.

    • @Mr.Morden
      @Mr.Morden Před rokem +27

      Any 110/120V users running an actual space heater in their gaming room will have their breaker trip.

  • @therandomdrone4370
    @therandomdrone4370 Před rokem +82

    Im so glad he brought realism to the durability of power cables. I can tell when they mentioned the lifespan, most people have never heard of lifespan of cables plugged in and out and freaked out over something they had no idea about.

  • @martins7194
    @martins7194 Před rokem +3

    Sizewise it reminds me of the Soundblaster AWE32, which fitted in an ISA slot.
    It was so long, that in our pc case we had it in the bottom slot and it was resting on a small rubber block to prevent it from hitting the bottom of the case.

  • @surg0083
    @surg0083 Před rokem +482

    Only 1,600 before tax. Wow, that’s more than a lot of people’s whole build

    • @mugendreamz8277
      @mugendreamz8277 Před rokem +12

      Could very well get up to 1800 depending on which manufacturer you get .

    • @valentinvas6454
      @valentinvas6454 Před rokem +28

      It will be around 2200-2300 in my country which is like three times more than the average monthly salary 😬.
      I really wonder how many people will buy even the 4080 12 GB also known as the new 4070. I bet even the true 4070 will be around 800-900 here which is awful.
      RDNA 3 please save us with more reasonable pricing.

    • @ashkanaref4056
      @ashkanaref4056 Před rokem +9

      My house costs less than that

    • @stevenkantrowitz6040
      @stevenkantrowitz6040 Před rokem +1

      Yeah tell me about it. Mine was $1,250 and I still felt like I was over paying.

    • @legend8202
      @legend8202 Před rokem

      Brooooooooooo.... that would be about as much as my whole PC! I have a 2080 super, but I am pretty sure that is only a fraction of my total rig's cost... I did got my PC on a sale though!

  • @wavelogic8471
    @wavelogic8471 Před rokem +181

    Every time he slams it on the table, I get a sharp pain up my spine, this is no way to treat your kidney!

    • @nickevison391
      @nickevison391 Před rokem +16

      Why not? I treat my liver like that every other weekend

    • @DRAWKCABLLA
      @DRAWKCABLLA Před rokem

      Nvidia is a piece of turd, which makes their products turds. Not kidneys. He is slamming a turd on the table which should make you feel repulsed

    • @stevenjoummaa4640
      @stevenjoummaa4640 Před rokem

      @@nickevison391 By slamming it on the table?

    • @nickevison391
      @nickevison391 Před rokem +1

      @@stevenjoummaa4640 metaphorically with alcohol, yes

  • @christos1182
    @christos1182 Před rokem +36

    The sizes of these things are getting to the point where Cloud Streaming can really become a more appealing option with a bit more advancement of the tech. I saw a video with the 4090 ROG Strix and it requires a full ATX tower due to how large it is. That's insane. The heat output could probably take care of an entire 3 bedroom house in winter!

    • @Lucas_Simoni
      @Lucas_Simoni Před rokem +6

      Imagine one of those in the summer without an AC / bad air-circulation in the room... It makes me remember of a guy who got brain damage from a heat stroke from his crypto mining hardware.

    • @Adaephonable
      @Adaephonable Před rokem +5

      A typical single room space heater is upwards of 750 Watts, some even up to 1500 Watts. So no, this card could not provide the same heating as 3 of them.
      400W < 2250-4500W (Incase the math confused you)

    • @christos1182
      @christos1182 Před rokem +10

      @@Adaephonable wow no need to be condescending! Obviously my comment was hyperbole...yeesh!

    • @domnero1211
      @domnero1211 Před rokem

      Could someone explain to me what the hell this is ? I’m lost what is this device used for?

    • @Aashishkebab
      @Aashishkebab Před rokem

      @@Lucas_Simoni Chubbyemu fan?

  • @Avengedsevenfoldxfan
    @Avengedsevenfoldxfan Před rokem +9

    We went from GPU Sag to GPU Gansta Lean

  • @martinutasi7857
    @martinutasi7857 Před rokem +665

    Just imagine, the 5090 will use 2x PCIe x16 solts and it will come with an additional 600W PSU in the box😂

    • @NeonCoding
      @NeonCoding Před rokem +124

      In the box? Not a chance.

    • @nielskoolstra
      @nielskoolstra Před rokem +54

      The next one will ship with an ATX wallpower plug at the back. Just so it can take a whole breaker for itself. \sarcasm

    • @Ms.Fowlbwahhh
      @Ms.Fowlbwahhh Před rokem +13

      Nah it will come with a dolly so you can move your appliances hooked up to the 240V outlets

    • @BrianG61UK
      @BrianG61UK Před rokem +10

      Only 600W?

    • @Gamer-nc8qp
      @Gamer-nc8qp Před rokem +4

      @@nielskoolstra that actually makes sense and id be fine w it

  • @thatzaliasguy
    @thatzaliasguy Před rokem +1275

    With how big GPUs are getting, I can't wait to see someone make an SFF PC out of the shell of one.

    • @joshuaadams4945
      @joshuaadams4945 Před rokem +3

      Right, I am taking my Star Wars Titan XP enclosure into a RPi build, but it is pretty small inside .

    • @xbk923
      @xbk923 Před rokem +1

      😂

    • @tripodal69
      @tripodal69 Před rokem +9

      At this point you're modding the GPU to put a PC inside it.

    • @usagihakushaku5338
      @usagihakushaku5338 Před rokem +1

      @@john-paulhunt6943 It gets to the point where majority of people just don't need better one , games are made with majority of people in mind , the medium will just be treated as ultra setting and newest GPUs will play games on above that.

    • @ruinenlust_
      @ruinenlust_ Před rokem

      what does any of this mean

  • @nathantron
    @nathantron Před rokem +8

    I think these new cards are a prime example of Peltier TEC should start being implemented. A solid copperplate >>TEC>> with a thin fin heatsink designed to have air forced though as fast as possible or even water cooling.

    • @Adaephonable
      @Adaephonable Před rokem +1

      You are aware of how inefficient Peltier coolers are? Instead of a 400W card you could have a 600W card that does the exact same thing...

    • @nathantron
      @nathantron Před rokem +1

      @@Adaephonable I'm more concerned with getting the heat off the card and into another more efficient medium as fast as possible. If we do that the wind tunnel might be able to do some real work. Hahahahaaa

  • @fleabaglane
    @fleabaglane Před 9 měsíci

    70 games 2010-2023 a few per year a good mix of styles I plan on for a first time to just sit and game
    2 games only doing 90 120 fps maxed out
    2 can max out but like to lower for 120fps
    Rest of 70 can still do
    120 140 fps
    or
    130 150s
    or
    staying in 150+ 200+ fps
    Im on 1440P 165Hz monitor
    ASUS Z490E GAMING
    i9 10900k 10@5.0Ghz
    32GB PC3000 DDR4
    3090RTX oc to 2100+9900
    2 x970 1TB Samsung
    1000 watt
    Sitting easy and gaming

  • @Neoxon619
    @Neoxon619 Před rokem +1641

    How does a modern GPU not have DisplayPort 2.0.

  • @pldcanfly
    @pldcanfly Před rokem +345

    Can't wait for the day a manufacturer will come up with the idead of using 2 pcie-slots with one card. One for data, and the other for structural integrity.

    • @RadioactiveBlueberry
      @RadioactiveBlueberry Před rokem +18

      By structural integrity you mean to prevent sagging? JayzTwoCents made a video how to do it.

    • @st0nedpenguin
      @st0nedpenguin Před rokem +1

      ...what do you think the massive heatsink does?

    • @nabawi7
      @nabawi7 Před rokem +6

      Yeah that would be smart. Second PCI-E x16 slot is unused by the vast majority of gamers anyway since SLI is a thing of the past so this would be a good way to make use of it.

    • @nabawi7
      @nabawi7 Před rokem +3

      ​@@st0nedpenguin To transfer heat and make the card super heavy? Im not sure what you're implying here.

    • @st0nedpenguin
      @st0nedpenguin Před rokem

      @@nabawi7 The heatsink provides much of the structural rigidity.

  • @g_stavo
    @g_stavo Před rokem +1

    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Installation: czcams.com/video/JqxL1y8n16Q/video.html

  • @GameCookerUSRocks
    @GameCookerUSRocks Před rokem +3

    Benchmarks? Where is the video for it? I also wanted to know about the fan noise people were complaining about. Thanks !!!

  • @NikilanRz
    @NikilanRz Před rokem +898

    The 40 Series feels like connecting a PC to the GPU

    • @mkhanman12345
      @mkhanman12345 Před rokem +11

      connecting pc to the heatsink

    • @ejkk9513
      @ejkk9513 Před rokem +3

      That's always been true as the GPU has always been the top consumer of power. Now it's more than ever... but that's never changed

    • @_valheim
      @_valheim Před rokem +1

      @@ejkk9513 its more in reference to the size

    • @4doorsmorewhors
      @4doorsmorewhors Před 9 měsíci

      Wow so original and SOOO funny I can't stop laughing

    • @snoopy2252
      @snoopy2252 Před 5 měsíci

      Lol

  • @DrModsQ
    @DrModsQ Před rokem +217

    This GPU looks like it needs it's own case to be held properly without ripping the PCI-e connector off the motherboard

    • @LuLeBe
      @LuLeBe Před rokem +9

      Seriously, how do they make sure the card's PCB doesn't just snap? I'm less concerned about the motherboard, it's loaded along it's length and not perpendicular(ly?) and the PCIe connector is soldered it with so many pins, it should hold up fine.

    • @justjoe5373
      @justjoe5373 Před rokem +11

      That's what I said on another guy's video, you need a construction licence to build a pillar for this card

    • @959tolis626
      @959tolis626 Před rokem +8

      @@LuLeBe First off, it's "perpendicular to", since you seem to be wondering (just trying to be helpful, not sarcastic, I don't know how my comment comes off).
      Now, if you've ever worked on a PCB, you'd know these things are tough as shit. They're just layers of metal on top of each other, really. I tried to drill through a CPU once (I killed it by mistake and chose to make a keychain out of it instead of making e-waste) and it broke my drill bit. I thought the PCB can't be that tough. Wrong. I was worried about the IHS, as I didn't have a proper drill bit on hand to drill through metal, but it chewed through the IHS easily and quickly. Then, I thought the PCB would be a piece of cake aaaaaaand it wouldn't drill through and I snapped my bit in half. I had to borrow another bit to finish the job (while keeping the same hole size).

    • @fynkozari9271
      @fynkozari9271 Před rokem +9

      450w, that's more than my entire PC. 65w ryzen 1700, 175w rtx2070. 65w monitor 1440p 144hz LG32GK650f.

    • @TheAdatto
      @TheAdatto Před rokem

      Depends. If the stiffness is good it should stay straight and weight distribution oke

  • @paullasky6865
    @paullasky6865 Před rokem +1

    Fascinating how excited we all get about a massive fan and some RGB lights

  • @joe-ni3zc
    @joe-ni3zc Před rokem +179

    2:26 yeah dude, I also love the Radeon 5900x, my favorite cpu by far, the arc 12900hk isn't bad too

    • @notvisibleconfusion
      @notvisibleconfusion Před rokem +3

      LMFAOOOO

    • @COE-Ender
      @COE-Ender Před rokem +19

      I has to replay that part myself just to make sure I heard linus right

    • @1syncgg
      @1syncgg Před rokem +15

      ryzen, radeon, rtx, ratatouille... a lot of r's.

    • @MrReklez
      @MrReklez Před rokem +5

      Lmfao - I was like did I miss a new CPU release or something. There was no * to correct it aswell.

    • @TimSheehan
      @TimSheehan Před rokem +3

      I'm just entertained nVidia is recommending you pair it with an AMD CPU, though the lower-than-intel power consumption was probably more important than Intel not competing with their GPUs

  • @squirrel9999
    @squirrel9999 Před rokem +129

    The first ever computer was over 300kg, looks like we are moving in the wrong direction

    • @RadioactiveBlueberry
      @RadioactiveBlueberry Před rokem +16

      299kg of that was not for cooling though

    • @moortu
      @moortu Před rokem +20

      The chips keep getting smaller.
      It's the cooling that is becoming bigger again.

    • @squirrel9999
      @squirrel9999 Před rokem

      @@RadioactiveBlueberry True but shhhhh

    • @berengerchristy6256
      @berengerchristy6256 Před rokem

      @@moortu are these chips actually smaller though? the problem is that transistor count keeps increasing while die size stays the same or shrinks

    • @itsahandle
      @itsahandle Před rokem

      You're just considering weight, what about the sheer computational power 🤔

  • @builtofire1
    @builtofire1 Před rokem

    card has mesh at the back, to blow out hot air, but the fins are covering it, no problem 3.5 height is the solution, just throw more heatpipes at it

  • @mrdan2898
    @mrdan2898 Před rokem +3

    Man, that's HUGE! I would think that this graphics card needs a special extra large case.

    • @Gaagaagoogoo677
      @Gaagaagoogoo677 Před rokem

      You would be correct my friend! Did an upgrade and the card is so massive it’s almost torching my front fans. Mid tower

  • @sturdybutter
    @sturdybutter Před rokem +1007

    That’s insane that a card that expensive doesn’t have DP 2.0

    • @nonfungiblemushroom
      @nonfungiblemushroom Před rokem +145

      That's Nvidia for you, they know people with more money than sense will buy their bs GPUs now matter how much they hobble them...

    • @aberkae
      @aberkae Před rokem +140

      If AMD 7000 series gets dp 2.0 then Nvidia will become peasant status!😜
      Nvidia is long overdue for an ego correction!

    • @verakoo6187
      @verakoo6187 Před rokem +9

      Wouldnt that be on Zotac in this case? Pretty sure the manufactuer chooses which ports to use.

    • @master_baiter1873
      @master_baiter1873 Před rokem +65

      ​@@verakoo6187 no.

    • @tyleryoungman50
      @tyleryoungman50 Před rokem +49

      @@verakoo6187 no, Nvidia locked it down

  • @novantha1
    @novantha1 Před rokem +325

    Not sure about other people, but I'd be really interested to see a "we made a computer more efficient than a console" revisit, where you try to take a 4090, and undervolt it to be about equal with a 3090 and see where it ends up power wise. I'm actually super curious to see what happens when you don't go completely overkill with this generation's cards

    • @SolarisUK
      @SolarisUK Před rokem +33

      you can undervolt a 3080 to draw 100w less power and it only looses around 1 to 2% performance.

    • @gamepadlad
      @gamepadlad Před rokem +9

      @@SolarisUK now this is awesome. Any video on that? Would love to watch something like that

    • @SolarisUK
      @SolarisUK Před rokem

      @@gamepadlad czcams.com/video/FqpfYTi43TE/video.html

    • @cyphercracker
      @cyphercracker Před rokem +14

      @@gamepadlad silicon lottery. Usually you can undervolt so it draws 80-100w less in afterburner without even touching the core or VRAM.

    • @cyphercracker
      @cyphercracker Před rokem +6

      And don't underestimate the power of 2k resolution. I much more prefer to have 2k and higher settings to make the enviorment more epic 🙂👍

  • @mohamadadeyn2837
    @mohamadadeyn2837 Před rokem +4

    Wow Zotac does again with the coolest design ever!

  • @FnkDck
    @FnkDck Před rokem +128

    Yo Linus thanks man, when you smashed the gpu on the table and bent the cables aggressively, I was reminded why I still watch you after all these years.

    • @NahBNah
      @NahBNah Před rokem +4

      Yea…Jesus Christ but thank god it’s only a zotac

    • @uriNATE14
      @uriNATE14 Před rokem +1

      Lmao! I was thinking about how his handling of tech and gpu’s specifically, hardly phases me anymore 😂 it used to make me so uncomfortable lmao !

  • @WDCallahan
    @WDCallahan Před rokem +195

    I like the part at 6:08 where he says that being able to change the game could be a game changer.

  • @rawdog7220
    @rawdog7220 Před rokem +1

    I'm still on vega 64.. bought 2 for $500 a couple of years ago, still great in all my games and still good in blender rendering (hence 2 of them).

  • @issarolifewithyou
    @issarolifewithyou Před rokem +1

    Hopefully Display Port 2.0 appears in the RTX 4090 TI. If Intel can do it on their ARC GPUs surely NVidia can.

  • @Jahus
    @Jahus Před rokem +359

    I love the EVGA model. The RGB is sick, and those fans are… man they are quiet!

    • @pickingyoe2992
      @pickingyoe2992 Před rokem +7

      hah

    • @jondonnelly4831
      @jondonnelly4831 Před rokem +49

      Since EVGA won't be putting it into production it will be very quiet.

    • @zulchemical
      @zulchemical Před rokem +19

      @@jondonnelly4831 insert capt america meme

    • @2312uri
      @2312uri Před rokem +9

      I've heard that the power consumption is incredible low

    • @JJHazy
      @JJHazy Před rokem +5

      It does have some insane technology, in addition to RGB channels it even has an Alpha channel!

  • @seananderson4107
    @seananderson4107 Před rokem +589

    I highly support EVGA's move to drop Nvidia.
    And more people need to do that if they're going to listen and make changes.

    • @TheArsenalgunner28
      @TheArsenalgunner28 Před rokem +64

      It’s been over 10 years…and Nvidia still isn’t listening. They’re like the ‘Putin’ of the Graphics cards market.

    • @skullkid456
      @skullkid456 Před rokem +2

      lol lmao

    • @edragyz8596
      @edragyz8596 Před rokem +6

      Intel's Arc isn't quite good enough to drop Nvidia yet, especially since the main game I play is DX11 only...

    • @TheArsenalgunner28
      @TheArsenalgunner28 Před rokem +9

      @@edragyz8596 I mean I don’t even want arc to drop nvidia. What would be really interesting is if Intel basically matches older generation GPU performance and offers it as alternative to the latest, greatest and expensive GPU’s.
      I mean in 3 years, the 3070 is still gonna be great for most games, and Intel could simply aim lower and offer entry level 1080p/1440p cards that don’t compete with the best buy offer solid performances for a lower price.
      Like I am not looking forward to my GPU dying in 2-5 years and having to upgrade to brand new brick that rips my wallet contents to pieces. I just want a instant replacement that is priced in the range of £250-£429 bracket
      It’s definitely going to be something that develops further as price continue to go up at the top end

    • @edragyz8596
      @edragyz8596 Před rokem +2

      @@TheArsenalgunner28 That's all fair and all, but it seems Intel is the only one who cares about beating Nvidia in the feature game. If Intel doesn't release an xx90 killer at some point, I'll still be stuck buying an xx90, because AMD just keeps MISSING.

  • @Phurios1
    @Phurios1 Před rokem

    I will be waiting for the mini itx build inside a 3D printed rtx 4000 series case (or something along these lines).

  • @shermanwellons
    @shermanwellons Před rokem

    going to get a box that houses 2 of these, Need them for Cinema 4D + Redshift.

  • @farhadaa
    @farhadaa Před rokem +35

    Linus carefully handling the Arc A770.
    Also Linus desk slamming the RTX 4090.

    • @ZaHandle
      @ZaHandle Před rokem

      Aluminium brick is pretty impact resistant

  • @PecanPie745
    @PecanPie745 Před rokem

    I’m waiting for the width of these new high end GPUs to need two PCIe slots to mount in a case. The first slot is the actual data slot while the second one is for support to avoid GPU sag.

  • @aaronhuffman4852
    @aaronhuffman4852 Před rokem

    Still have a Corsair 800d case with a soft tubing build. Never wanted to dive into hard tubing but now it seems I won’t have a choice! My case won’t fit a new 4090 card because of all the water cooling stuff! I’ll stick with my rtx 3080ti for now since I game at 1440p and I’ll build a new system in a couple years so I may try hard tubing! I just wonder how big these cards continue to get lol!!!😅

  • @Scarbuckks
    @Scarbuckks Před rokem +477

    I remember when a GPU needing an 8 pin was insane, but 12 is ridiculous

    • @XGalaxy4U
      @XGalaxy4U Před rokem +21

      It has 32 pins for your power supply. I'm not sure what that other dongle is for. Linus says it's for communication to the power supply. Probably not needed. My 800 watt PSU has four 8 pins. It may run it but not with a hot CPU.

    • @usagihakushaku5338
      @usagihakushaku5338 Před rokem +17

      @@XGalaxy4U Soon you need your own wind turbine to be eco friendly , or wind turbine sub , few people borrow one and split the bill

    • @BaSiC47
      @BaSiC47 Před rokem +9

      I remember when 500€ for a GPU was insane

    • @VioletGiraffe
      @VioletGiraffe Před rokem +5

      I remember top-tier GPUs costing $400. That's how much a brand new 2900XT cost that I bought with my university scholarship savings.

    • @vasilije94
      @vasilije94 Před rokem +1

      I mean I remember when we didn't even need extra PSU connectors to GPU, or better yet when we didn't had GPUs to begin with. Times change, technology goes forward.

  • @rodh1404
    @rodh1404 Před rokem +239

    They're only charging a kidney for these? Amazing, I thought they'd cost an arm and a leg.

  • @theonlyremedy
    @theonlyremedy Před rokem +5

    That thing looks like a small skateboard, just add the wheels!

  • @keiro8364
    @keiro8364 Před rokem

    Could you guys show the machine learning performance since that is what I am interested in, possibly using a CNN or GAN and timing the training period?

  • @Akkbar21
    @Akkbar21 Před rokem +53

    The PCI express connector needs to be redesigned as a cable and you just mount the module inside your case like a PSU.

  • @GamePlague
    @GamePlague Před rokem +351

    I think we could use a generation where the focus is on making things smaller and more power efficient with only minimal performance increases.

    • @scotthadley92
      @scotthadley92 Před rokem +19

      No we dont

    • @Tarets
      @Tarets Před rokem +49

      ​@@scotthadley92 We don't what?

    • @moi3848
      @moi3848 Před rokem +14

      Yes, but no one would buy it, do you really want to pay more for efficiency when with the cost of electricity no classical user will ever see the difference on theirs electricity bill ?

    • @moi3848
      @moi3848 Před rokem +4

      @HackerMode if you want cheaper card more efficient just go with less higher graphics card of the new generation (4070 is a bit like a more efficient and cheaper 3080-3090) I get the point of stopping the power hungry card but I think with the current market you can already do it if you go on smaller graphics card

    • @DarcyFerrier
      @DarcyFerrier Před rokem +3

      i think what you're trying to say is we should focus on making these cards more efficient overall, instead of more efficient per watt. ultimately when this card is pulling 400+ watts, that's a shit tonne more than the majority of other cards on the market, but the performance gains don't necessarily reflect the power draw. i totally understand!

  • @bikesandbrass
    @bikesandbrass Před rokem

    6:20 "could be an absolute game changer"
    I see what you did there........

  • @edhikurniawan
    @edhikurniawan Před rokem +1

    I like how Linus seems to understand how much a kidney, underground.

  • @BrentJohn
    @BrentJohn Před rokem +85

    A heatsink _that size_ is not just ridiculous, but bordering on impractical. Not just in the sense of space, but the weight of the card as well, which is getting into requiring a support bracket to keep it from coming out of the socket.
    It would make a hell of a lot more sense to turn it into a kind of AIO with the radiator/fan attached elsewhere, or redesigning it to fit on the card, if possible.

    • @gamingmarcus
      @gamingmarcus Před rokem +12

      Achtually a ton of them will ship with support brackets. Go watch the Gamers Nexus video about AIB 4090 announcements. The marketing they came up with for their GPU support brackets is hilarious.

    • @joshuaadams4945
      @joshuaadams4945 Před rokem +5

      Right, when you implement a solution to fix a thermal problem that introduces a new issue. I want to design a new GPU Bra. Make it all lacey colorful. Or a Sweedish model pump style novelty gpu riser.

    • @Mart-E12
      @Mart-E12 Před rokem +5

      They're making ones with aio radiators like the Msi Suprim 4090

    • @BrentJohn
      @BrentJohn Před rokem +1

      @@gamingmarcus Yeah I saw. It's stupid to require a bracket for this.

    • @gamingmarcus
      @gamingmarcus Před rokem +5

      @@BrentJohn My next card will be getting some support no matter what.
      I have a 10 series card in my system, which is around 5 years old and despite being a relatively small 2-slot card it has developed some noticable sag over the years because it has no support at the back. So this isn't just an issue with chunky cards.
      I don't know if this would ever create real problems down the line but there's hardly any effort in putting a 10cm piece of plastic under your GPU so I'll just do it.

  • @Answerx32
    @Answerx32 Před rokem +177

    That cooling system is freakin huge. I bet you can heat your entire house with that card.

    • @timm1583
      @timm1583 Před rokem +18

      Probably not the houses that people who get these live in

    • @bstaznkid4lyfe392
      @bstaznkid4lyfe392 Před rokem +3

      This thing consume 450 watts..Only card that uses too much power..

    • @fynkozari9271
      @fynkozari9271 Před rokem +2

      @@bstaznkid4lyfe392 3090ti also 450watt.

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine Před rokem

      Space heaters are obsolete, just buy a modern computer.

  • @TurboMalibuV6
    @TurboMalibuV6 Před rokem

    Available at your favorite online scalping outlet stores and auction sites!

  • @michaelosmolski
    @michaelosmolski Před rokem +1

    We're going to need deeper pockets to run this card and also a few extra reactors for good measure. Stunning card though.

  • @StevieThundr
    @StevieThundr Před rokem +195

    I hope AMD will be laughing all the way to the bank in november...for our sake

    • @ntdspades5971
      @ntdspades5971 Před rokem +10

      Definitely skipping at least the 40 series card because this shits crazy

    • @512TheWolf512
      @512TheWolf512 Před rokem +9

      and intel, too. with prices 5 times lower that this absolute spit in the face.

    • @zimashe5446
      @zimashe5446 Před rokem

      🤣

    • @chitorunya
      @chitorunya Před rokem +5

      @@512TheWolf512 and like 7x weaker performance tbf

    • @qshank2752
      @qshank2752 Před rokem +1

      @@ntdspades5971 i reckon at this rate we will be waiting for 60series cards. I find it hard to trust amd/ati as ever gpu i have had with them has either failed or had driver issues. Yes that may have been fixed but i dont trust them in my work PC after so much lost data from random shutoffs/dead gpus. i would never pay this much for a gpu either though so the waiting game begins.

  • @klasztornik847
    @klasztornik847 Před rokem +70

    Looking at those coolers, I am actually expecting orienting the fans sideways at some point, if you're already 4 slots wide, you might as well exhaust out of the back of the case.

  • @antilogic81
    @antilogic81 Před rokem

    I was gunna say the module idea is a very likely outcome. I guess we will see

  • @barcsaysz
    @barcsaysz Před rokem

    You almost got 100 member on your team and one still foked up the color grading on this video especially on your hands..:D The infos btw is much respected! :)

  • @andrewtrumbower
    @andrewtrumbower Před rokem +11

    Anybody else getting old LTT nostalgia with this onboxing? Love the current main channel stuff but it's nice to have that feeling of old comfort once in a while with Linus

    •  Před rokem +1

      From what I remember that was the whole intention of creating this channel, to have a place where their old style could continue since they want deeper dives and pieces that tell a story in the main channel.

  • @mndlessdrwer
    @mndlessdrwer Před rokem +66

    I'm still amazed that Zotac is still around. Amazed and grateful, because they're one of the few companies that still get weird with their product designs. Need an overpowered and very short GPU? Check Zotac, they probably have it. Need a low-profile GPU? Check Zotac.

    • @tibor29
      @tibor29 Před rokem +1

      I probably just got unlucky but a Zotac GTX 260 card was the only GPU that ever randomly died on me and the warranty process was a nightmare. I don't think I even got a replacement in the end. I haven't trusted Zotac since then, but to be fair, that happened like 14 years ago.

    • @karroq
      @karroq Před rokem +7

      I wasn't grateful when they cranked their msrp to scalper levels, and were selling $700 3060s, $1200 3070s, and $2500 3090s on their own website during the shortage. Showed how much they cared about their customers then.

    • @mndlessdrwer
      @mndlessdrwer Před rokem +2

      @@tibor29 Yeah, DoA products and other faulty products happen to every manufacturer. It's a real shame that EVGA got burnt out on the graphics card market because they legitimately had the best customer support for their stuff. I more appreciate Zotac for offering unusual products than for their overall quality.

    • @AmrrowSGG
      @AmrrowSGG Před rokem

      I have a Zotac Oc mini RTX 2070 and it works great haven't had any problems with it. Zotac has became a better company then they used to be. Their customer support has gotten better after a lot of complaints. Their quality on their GPUs has gotten massively better over they years because of the consumers complained over it. Zotac do have clean looking cards and funky looking ones such as the one in the video

    • @KenS1267
      @KenS1267 Před rokem

      Zotac has a history of doing low profile cards, fanless cards and all kinds of stuff but look at reviews before you buy there have also been some really bad quality stuff by them from time to time.

  • @krashkwads4688
    @krashkwads4688 Před rokem

    a real test of player skill is playing through the hardest levels dropping to 20 fps when bombarded by enemies at all sides

  • @OGMagic
    @OGMagic Před rokem

    Still rockin’ the 2080Ti but this is looking interesting, been saving for a new graphics card and a few other parts for a few years waiting for this bad boy… will hopefully impress on the next vid you make!

  • @TheNextBigThingHD
    @TheNextBigThingHD Před rokem +97

    I've never been less excited for a gpu launch...

    • @eliashabash7591
      @eliashabash7591 Před rokem +5

      Because you can’t afford the 4080 and “4070”
      Has nothing to do with this particular card
      It’s pricing is in line with last gen

    • @OutOfNameIdeas2
      @OutOfNameIdeas2 Před rokem +30

      @@eliashabash7591 mate. That's not the issue. It's just a stupid buy in all the ways you look at it. And Nvidia is literally worse than apple so it hurts to support them.

    • @LuLeBe
      @LuLeBe Před rokem +7

      @@eliashabash7591 Yeah the 4090 is in line with the 3090 pricing, but the 3000 series promised much bigger improvements over 2000 than this does over 3000. So it made sense that 3000 was really expensive, because it was such a big step. That launch was 2 years ago, by now the prices would usually (without miners) sit at like $550-600 for a 3080 (MSRP was 699). And compared to that, the price has really gone up. And you know that actual prices will be even higher than their MSRP.
      I remember when a friend got a 580, it cost like $470 or so new. My 970 was 299. My 2070 was around $420. And the current 4070 costs $900 now???

    • @hypewilkens
      @hypewilkens Před rokem +1

      @@LuLeBe Its ludacris..

    • @Killswitch1411
      @Killswitch1411 Před rokem +3

      @@SpartanArmy117 Should have told Germany that when they relied on Russians for their Energy.

  • @squeeh
    @squeeh Před rokem +50

    All hail the 7 slot card, imagine the cooling fans that you could fit and the amount of cooling that you could produce...

    • @Dukes3677
      @Dukes3677 Před rokem

      whole case cooling xD

    • @itznotmytube
      @itznotmytube Před rokem +1

      They could use the "Blowzooka" fans from Delta Electronics that they tested on LTT :D 7400 CFM or so!

  • @vtrandal
    @vtrandal Před 10 měsíci

    @1:03 Linus gives me hope. Linus is living proof that technical details do not matter.

  • @armored-clown
    @armored-clown Před rokem

    3080ti here, I’m going to wait until the 40 series ti cards come out and need to see benchmark comparisons with the 30 series.

  • @TechDove
    @TechDove Před rokem +37

    With the introduction of these 40 series cards, I think I'll get a 20 or 30 series

    • @blackcitadel37
      @blackcitadel37 Před rokem +3

      Most people don't even need a 30 series gpu let alone a 40 series monstrosity like that.

    • @Austin-bc1yh
      @Austin-bc1yh Před rokem

      2060 super is highly recommended. runs most game at 70+ fps at 1440p ultra[I wouldnt raytrace tho] and worst case scenario you drop resolution to 1080p or reduce quality on distant shadows because its pretty taxing for something you will never notice unless you go batman detective mode on your monitor over something as trivial as shadows that are far away. Also after doing a little research I found that the 2060 super is about on par with the 3060 although the 3060 handles lighting better the 2060 super runs calculations and physics and everything else slightly better, they have around the same price as well. if you get a 20 series get the 2060 super if you want better than that you need to go for 3070 tier or better otherwise you are wasting money

  • @Artaxo
    @Artaxo Před rokem +12

    I got so confused with the Radeon 5900X CPU (2:26), but it was just a mistake. I started questioning everything I knew.

  • @Zerochance007
    @Zerochance007 Před rokem

    might have to start playing seasonally.. this 4090 will turn my room into the sahara

  • @kwinzman
    @kwinzman Před rokem

    Thanks for mentioning the legacy DisplayPort disaster!

  • @gregoriodia
    @gregoriodia Před rokem +7

    Having Zotac 3080 this made me happy, to see Linus considers that 3rd best thing ;-)
    Scored one week after launch of 3080 at pretty much MSRP. Been serving me very well since then.

  • @darkminer8675
    @darkminer8675 Před rokem +33

    As much as I kinda like the new power connector for the RTX 4000 Series, I kinda wish they had placed it on the back side of the card (Similar to the RTX 2060 FE and some Quadro cards) for a cleaner look on the inside in terms of cable management

    • @bthatguy1181
      @bthatguy1181 Před rokem

      Why cant they just add it to the mobo? Not like this is a new issue, why not just add compatibility to the motherboard?

    • @HVDynamo
      @HVDynamo Před rokem +1

      @@bthatguy1181 Because the PCI-E slot can’t handle the power needed either.

    • @bthatguy1181
      @bthatguy1181 Před rokem

      @@HVDynamo They could come up with a standard connector that fits right after it to handle the watts needed.
      Its not like PCIE hasn't been changed again and again either.

    • @1steelcobra
      @1steelcobra Před rokem

      I think the issue there is the extra wiring that requires to extend the connection for the power to the board from the end instead of surface-mounting the connector directly to the board.
      I think GN had complaints about how the 2060 FE's connector made teardown a lot more difficult, as well.

    • @88porpoise
      @88porpoise Před rokem

      @@bthatguy1181 Then you need to get PSU, MB, graphics cards, and likely case designers in line for it.
      And you probably can't be backwards compatible. You can adapt old PCIe power connectors to the new one. It may not be ideal, but it is viable.
      Then you have to consider managing it fpr vertical-mount etc.
      And MB makers need to include traces capable of carrying all that power from where it enters the MB to the PCIe slot.
      All in all, it would be a LOT more complicated to implement for a small aesthetic benefit that a huge proton of their customers wouldn't care about.

  • @hadisoufi7752
    @hadisoufi7752 Před rokem

    I mean the thing with RTX remix is that you can use it as much as you want to, right? If you want the most ‘authentic’ experience, you can just use it to run the game at high res & FPS and just be done with it. It doesn’t have to be as deep as adding RTX, upscaling, etc unless YOU want to. That’s the nice thing about modding in general

  • @AakashParihar_
    @AakashParihar_ Před rokem +1

    The thumbnail is so goofy , I love it 😂😂😂

  • @Urboyfromfuture
    @Urboyfromfuture Před rokem +33

    Looking at the size of this I think it's perfect time for case manufacturers to start experimenting with different mounting position for gpu . I know lian li has 2.

  • @DJdoppIer
    @DJdoppIer Před rokem +31

    I don't know why, but I like the design of the Zotac cooler. Still wouldn't even consider getting an RTX 4090 card though (my electric bill is bad enough as-is).

    • @drumyogi9281
      @drumyogi9281 Před 11 měsíci

      What do you get charged for kWh? Here in California it is average 21c kWh which at 750w an hour for 4 hours a day is 50c a day (who plays that much everyday though and 50c a day is still not that bad).
      That is hypothetical though as you are not going to be consistently drawing that much power over our 4 hours of base screen time, even while gaming. You will be hitting much lower.

  • @drewjohnston7
    @drewjohnston7 Před rokem

    Did you ever do the full review?

  • @shi-enl.7046
    @shi-enl.7046 Před rokem

    Linus: *smacking an 1600USD graficscard on the table*
    my heart: *stops a beat*

  • @kyleduddleston4123
    @kyleduddleston4123 Před rokem +55

    I laughed too hard when he whipped out the Zotac Gaming box after explaining the cool ideas he had. I needed a good laugh today. 😂

  • @stekelly1980
    @stekelly1980 Před rokem +4

    I think a new pc motherboard layout will be needed in the future and internal pc case design too. Gpu's are the dominant thing inside a case now!

  • @davidposiril69
    @davidposiril69 Před rokem

    I love that the Rtx 4090 consumes more power than whole setup with i5 11. gen and Rtx 3070 (monitor including) :D

  • @tobiasvanderkaa3536
    @tobiasvanderkaa3536 Před rokem

    I hope tear will be more efficient options in a few years

  • @tjammed7844
    @tjammed7844 Před rokem +8

    Pretty soon we are going to be installing motherboards onto the GPU instead of the other way around.

  • @darthgonk7741
    @darthgonk7741 Před rokem +5

    RTX 6090: Requires a separate 1000 watt power supply with a 96 pin pcie cable and a separate case that has 20 fans installed (For average performance of course. Full performance requires more extensive measures)

    • @boastfultoast
      @boastfultoast Před rokem +1

      No like straight up this stupid shit is gonna happen if they keep going in this direction, it’s so lame for consumers

  • @voxfizz2352
    @voxfizz2352 Před rokem

    Reminds me of the Ghostbusters, Ghost storage device, that thing is a Behemoth!

  • @MrMegaPussyPlayer
    @MrMegaPussyPlayer Před 11 měsíci

    10:12 It then also could plug in in more than one PCI slot and, not only, draw less power over the flawed connector, but also be better secured.

  • @wretchedslippage3255
    @wretchedslippage3255 Před 7 měsíci

    My MSI 4090 runs like the entire length of my case. Couple mms of room past the front intake but thats it. ITS MASSIVE but its also a fucking beast.

  • @Bandrosonk
    @Bandrosonk Před rokem +5

    2:32. Radeon 5900x is my favorite cpu! Much better than Ryzen!

  • @user-ki1wq6pt9u
    @user-ki1wq6pt9u Před rokem +17

    Man, the zotac amp holo 4090 is insane looking

    • @garienza
      @garienza Před rokem

      It's the same card but but RGB bling

    • @PenaEnrique
      @PenaEnrique Před rokem

      it looks like a giant soap bar

  • @paulbrand7676
    @paulbrand7676 Před rokem

    when he revealed the price my first thought was: 'Well thats actualy not too bad'. The last year was rough.

  • @ProfessorGears_LT
    @ProfessorGears_LT Před rokem +1

    I like how they release new GPU's when I cant even get my hands on a 1660 from the stores....

  • @BIackoutPhantom
    @BIackoutPhantom Před rokem +20

    NVidia remix in the hands of environment artists who know what they are doing and understand the level design of games can really improve the games quality and playability without worrying about those downsides that you mentioned in the video like strategically places lights or vibe of an environment. That is what Im looking foraward too not hapazardly upgrading everything for the sake of upgrading it.

    • @dereksbooks
      @dereksbooks Před rokem

      I think that the artist intention argument isn't valid for players who've already experienced the game at least once as it was intended. That's why modding exists. We want to try the game again in a different way, and the modder is presenting his or her interpretation.

  • @MRDJBURNS
    @MRDJBURNS Před rokem +10

    Will be waiting for the second gen of ARC or a drop in the 30 series before I upgrade from my 20 series GPU. I like having kidneys!

  • @Taco_God
    @Taco_God Před rokem

    Love all the zotac shade here.

  • @yourvenparianen5390
    @yourvenparianen5390 Před rokem +30

    "zotac recommends a 1000w power supply" , ahh finally i was looking for a nice space heater

  • @moortu
    @moortu Před rokem +7

    I've suggested before that graphics cards be redesigned as a module.
    Just a block like the PSU somewhere in the PC where it has dedicated air in and out.
    Perhaps a dedicated connector as well instead of PCI-E
    Back in the day it was an expansion card, nowadays most Personal Desktops have a graphics card. (PC's not workstations)

  • @ChestnutandBea
    @ChestnutandBea Před rokem

    What is that awesome house light thingy to your right in the video? I want one!

  • @aBdULAh1
    @aBdULAh1 Před rokem +5

    You're so honest Linus 😂 , most of us waited for 4090 just to buy 3060 after the price drop😅

  • @rubikfan1
    @rubikfan1 Před rokem +3

    3:16 why are there still using air? With this much power shouldnt we move to water as a base?

  • @CXDave88
    @CXDave88 Před rokem +13

    Linus made my anxiety levels skyrocket from everytime he drops the card purposely 😢😂

  • @C0deMasterYT
    @C0deMasterYT Před rokem

    When I eventually do a major overhaul on my PC, I'm probably going to get a top-of-the-line GPU if possible. Basically going to be rebuilding my PC all over again when I do that.

  • @SupplyNinja
    @SupplyNinja Před rokem +2

    In the distant future, the RTX 9090 will be solid state and will be the size of an iphone 4. You heard it first from SupplyNinja. Don't forget it.

  • @bexgreen1476
    @bexgreen1476 Před rokem +5

    Linus may have mentioned the 7 slot wide card. But how about a card that plugs into 2 PCIE slots?

  • @SengenOfficial
    @SengenOfficial Před rokem +12

    My biggest concern is power draw, I recently upgraded from a 500w to a 850w and I can run basically run any 30 series theoretically.

    • @AM93000
      @AM93000 Před rokem +5

      “Upgraded recently” u made a poor choice knowing 4000 series will come out

    • @jondonnelly4831
      @jondonnelly4831 Před rokem +1

      The 4070 will be ok, I don't know about the others though.

    • @gmualum08
      @gmualum08 Před rokem +1

      If you're considering the 40 series, you should've sprung for a 1000w PSU

    • @ryanespinoza7297
      @ryanespinoza7297 Před rokem

      I bought a 1050 watt psu in 2018 for my 2080ti build because I didn’t know if the upgrades coming down the road would need more power. Looks like the extra $40 was well spent

    • @AM93000
      @AM93000 Před rokem

      @@ryanespinoza7297 nope, don’t get carried away. Your old 1000w psu doesn’t have the new connector which is recommended