Atletico Madrid almost created a MIRACLE vs. Manchester City - Frank Leboeuf | ESPN FC
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- The ESPN FC crew react to Atletico Madrid's 0-0 draw with Manchester City in the second leg of the Champions League quarterfinal.
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I never seen City defended so crazily like this. They did to Athletico Madrid what they did to City in the first leg and City ultimately proved to be better in crazy defending than them. What a game!!
@K C put some respect on laporte and mahrez
Mate it's Atletico its not that hard
If Atleti had gone toe to toe against man city and gotten whooped 8-0, they would say "why did you do that". You cant win with these pundits
Nobody is saying that.
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Real Madrid has a derby with Atletico which they dominate. And you wonder why Real is so tough. Their sparring partner is a beast.
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Sparring partner 🤣🤣👌🏾 good 1
I agree with Frank Lebuof. I have not seen City defending like that in ages. Beautiful game!
They forgot Simenone is the man who brings Atleti to where it stands now. Atletico wouldn't even have a new stadium if Simeone didn't exist.
Exactly! These are stupid english ignorant ppl. Do u think the tie would be so much talked about if it didn't go the way it went. I am not a atleti fan , i am cule but i have immense respect for them and the way they play. Its frustrating for opponents but if everybody plays the same way then how boring that would be.
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Don't say things you don't know , Wanda was built as an athletic stadium in the 90's.
After the demolition of Vicente Calderon, they transform Wanda in this 65 000 stadium
@@DonGivani And where the money to transform wanda came from??
@@DonGivani they've had a massive renovation since then they were broke and a mid table team before simeone took over they were at the level of a osasuna .
My only problem is they left it for too late. Loved when city were in fear to defend
City were not in fear, City players were simply tired.
Don't be a hater, be reasonable, be a proper human being and analyse the match properly from a neutral point of view.
Atletico played against 17th place Mallorca on Saturday in the La Liga and City played their direct title rival on Sunday in the EPL and then they had to travel to Madrid.
So City players did a great job of defending their 1 goal lead and qualified for the semifinal.
Previous versions of City would have buckled under the pressure from Atletico and their fans but this City is built different.
This is new Man City. This City is not flaky. This City know how to manage and grind out a result.
City is not just a one trick pony anymore. City is not just about scoring 4-5 goals everytime. City now know how to keep a clean sheet under immense pressure from the opposition.
Give credit where it's due.
Lol Atletti had 1 shot on target total.
You all are clueless really. Atleti has always been known as an attacking team. Attack is in their DNA. What they didn't do well is defense. They can score 3 goals but equally can let past 4 goals in a match. In came Simeone and changed all that and Atletico got results. It landed them 2 La Ligas 2 Europas and Champions League Final twice.
They curbed their Attacking instinct so that they get the result by not conceeding goals. So in case of Man City, Atleti has always have that ability to fight back and Attack. It was just a matter of when to do it. They wouldn't risk it in the 1st leg. They kept it for their Home Leg. But because they've conceded 1 goal to minimize risk of falling 2-0 they've decided to All Out Attack in the 2nd Half. As you all have seen we've BROKEN City's passing game and sent them to resort to the 'Dark Arts' themselves. We've DONE that to Pep's barca and Bayern Munich way before. Simeone and Pep were no stranger to each other in The Champions League or La Liga. In fact it was Simeone's Atletico that managed to contain Messi Barca in certain matches.
Simeone is cautious and a Master Pragmatist but that just belies the True Attacking Power of Atletico de Madrid. We have always know how to Attack.
Didn't Kiko, Vieri, Hasselbaink, Forlan, Aguero, Fernando Torres, Falcao, Diego Costa, Griezmann, Joao Felix ring any bell ??
You Can't be that Daft, Can You ?
@@pritambiswas1000 Credit where credit is due? How about millions in dirty oil money? City has EARNED nothing. They were GIVEN it!
@@amenstal123 apt!
I love this game, I would watch a match like this again 😂😂😂😂😂😂
you have no respect for half of the game - the defensive side
You better watch UFC/WWE you'll love it even more 😂
I wish Atleti would have tried to break legs. It's a problem in all of football, but City is a dive and acting academy.
@@aaront8614 go watch tennis this is contact sports plastic city fan
@@Gabriel-se9el I'm sorry if i dont enjoy games where nothing is happening, watching two teams literally create nothing for 90 minutes is not entertaining for me. Football has always been an attacking game, the proof of this is how the individual awards always goes for offensive players. The attacking players are what makes this sport
Lebouf roasting the british hypocrites. What a legend
Top man
There were actually a bunch of football matches today that would have been fun covering for teams who normally don’t get the spotlight, but I guess even when the big boys aren’t playing they’ll get the coverage.
I couldn't agree more. At least it wasn't a Haaland transfer story.
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Boss, nobody wants to hear about Braga and rangers until they eliminate a big gun or get to the finals. If you want coverage, go to their CZcams channel or fan channels and leave us alone to enjoy proper content
nobody cares
Rangers a very good example.
My god, really enjoying these tears. “Why didn’t you just open up the game and let city run train on you guys. Why did you have to make it tuff on us. Wahhh wahh wahh”. I think they’re even more upset that it nearly worked lol. Quick moment of silence for defense tho, apparently that’s dead and buried in the modern game. If you’re outside backs aren’t converted wingers and you’re whole midfield line isn’t pushing 20 yards into the opps half, then ig you’re jus not playing football then. Shout out to atletico, never change
Playing a 5-5-0 for nearly 1 3/4 games is pathetic. Its just anti football. Grow a pair and at least try
@@junioradult6219 "Anti-football", "negative football" etc... doesn't exist. Stop parroting useless journalists like a sheep or as if you're in the club. Yikes.
@@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo It actually exists, refusing to try to attack it's anti-football as the main goal of the game is to score goals. It's the equivalent of a tennis player who just tries to moonballer in tennis who just try to pass the ball without actually attacking.
@@juanestebankruhsanmguel1960 Ok parrot. The whole point of football is to win. I'm not saying I want to see it but a penalty shootout exists, which means you win even if no goals are scored. People are delusional to say Atleti don't want to score goals, you yourself know that's not true.
Defense isn't dead, City and Liverpool have two of the best defensive records in the world
I love the game ....there should be a team that plays like ATM
Exactly!!!!! A team that being PEP or KLOPP doesn’t mean you’re gonna beat them and doesn’t mean you will come to their city and play the type of football you want
ok, please watch burnley
just watch any premier league team in the bottom of the table and you have that
@@papuy5913 i get you point but Burnley are recognised for that style. Not all of them.
@@Timeculture but they also don't have to elbow people in the head, kickout at people, charge them and roughhouse them, headbut them, hair pull... they could just play football and stop playing WWE.
The Atletico chairman complaining that City parked the bus and played dirty the entire game is funny .
Atletico was brilliant and I enjoyed the game
@@haniffjathan543 exactly. I enjoyed it too. I keep saying it that teams like Atletico and managers like Simeone are needed in football
@@y2k42y2k42 oh shut up. Since you are such a football expert, why aren't you managing a pro football team?
He was pointing out the hyprocrisy. When the english team does it, nobody seems to have a problem.
He wasn’t complaining, he was pointing out the irony
Frank is 100% correct on this issue
I think people seem to forget where Atletico were before Simeone. All these pundits say "I don't know how Atletico supporters can applaud Simeone when he's making them play this style of football". Let me tell you why, I've been an Atletico fan before Simeone and will be an Atletico fan after Simeone, and if the choice is losing by one goal over two legs against the best club in the world in the quarter finals of the champions league while playing "Anti football", even making them look silly for 45 minutes or not even making it into the champions league while playing "Beautiful football" I choose the first option any day of the week. Furthermore, I can't think of a single team with a budget similar to Atletico that has been able to consistently compete against the best in Europe over the last decade and winning two leagues in between. This is why we are so grateful to him.
Their budget? Simeone has been the highest paid manager in Europe's top five leagues. they literally bought Felix for over 120 mil
Liverpool has a smaller budget than Atletico Madrid but they play attractive football and compete every year against teams with much bigger budgets. Simeone is an overpaid thug who has assembled an expensively assembled football team of thugs to fight and cheat. As an Atletico fan you might condone this kind of football but to the rest of the footballing world it's just being a cheat and a sore loser.
@@veleo6935 After selling their best player for 120mil
@@veleo6935 bro that Felix purchase was 4 seasons ago
Easy to go for a draw when you play a 5-5-0 practically for two whole games. That is just anti football
I’m Brazilian and we’re used to see this kind of things here in South America, specially at Copa Libertadores, specially from teams from South Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay, to many this total war environment is the right way to approach these big games, Simeone come from these “school” and if read these english papers he will laugh of them.
Well, I suppose if Simeone is laughing despite losing in such a way then he can keep laughing.....
The hypocrisy is that English pundits supported this type of behaviour when Mourinho was managing in England. But if it's happening in Spain to English players, oh the horror, my poor babies. So at the root of it isn't the actual act itself, it carries a nationalist undertone because if an English team was doing it they wouldn't have a problem with it.
@@thecountofmontecristo8280 are you joking? Mourinho was destroyed in the English media. There's no hypocrisy they were consistent.
@@thecountofmontecristo8280 If an English team went into Europe playing like that, I would be completely embarrassed.
@@BurnsTennis isn't this the exact behaviour you English people hold up in high regards as the greatest rivalry in the Premier League era? Isnt this exactly what Man Utd and Arsenal rivalry was all about? Suddenly, English people acting like saints? 🤣🤣
Love Simeone and Atletico, and how easily they trigger everyone 🤣🤣 I don't see any other teams fan base staying back after full time to cheer their team despite a loss like that- they probably couldn't care less what these pundits and everyone think lmao
Doesn't change the fact that they are anti-football. They can stay happy in their little Atletico bubble but I am glad to see football fans coming together against the evil that is Simeone and Atletico.
There is a reason his cowardly football has not been able to win him the Champions League yet.
@@julianbanks1885 not anti football they are cancer to football
RUBBISH
It was literally the opposite, if u watch the game, atletico players lose their cool soo fast n got triggered easily when city used the so called " dark arts"
Hypocrite Can not take what they give .man city's do to them what they did to others for 10 years now 5 5 0. and they fall waste time very stupid football that why Simone knows he can never last in a big club in England France and Italy even in Spain Barcelona and Madrid
Under Simeone Atleti fought and clawed their way to where they are. City was given a bucket of money and bought whoever they wanted. What team deserves more credit or more respect? Financial fair play is joke. What is happening to the premier league is obscene. In five years all these stupid pundits will be extolling the marvelous transformation at Newcastle. What hypocrisy!
What is the Italian national Team known for?... I am not an Athletico Madrid fan but they are being unfairly critized. There needs to be an appreciation for variety in tactics and style of play....
Yes mahn
"Im absolutely delighted they are out" ..lmao 😆😆
Simeone, please stay put in ATM till your lifetime ....
the same person who laughed at zidane for working long hours at RM. different mentality that is why he will always be only a pundit
Simeone didn’t do anything against city that we didn’t know them for. It’s downright stupid hat the English boys yesterday were upset because athletico doesn’t care about their feelings.
Check the game stats, athletico were far more intentional with their plan than city were. Stop hating on defensive football, it works and it nearly worked. If your team is in d position to play city, you would wish they were resilient too
It's fascinating to know that Rodri came from a team of such arrogance but still being a humble player
No wonder he wanted to get out of there
@@jakepacheco547 for sure
I don't like what Shaka said about it can't be your default position. Last I checked Athletico Madrid has been to the same number of Champions League finals as Man City since Pep and Diego have got there. So clearly you can win using that system even if it isn't pretty
@@SK-qe5tr Centurions would destroy Atletico of 2014 or 2016
Before simeone they wouldn’t be known as much around the world, they’ve cemented themselves in the top 4 in Spain, they were never that consistent before in their history only maybe 40-50 yrs ago…they didn’t have any money to spend before Simeone got the 13-14 title over Messi and Cristiano and they made it to two ucl finals
If every pundit here is given chance to manage Atletico I don't think they would even reach quater final or even qualify for the CL.
Atletico is one of the few clubs that keep it real!
Keep it real ? ...they're weak team that turns to violents n antics to win the game ...it's football for a reason, foot the ball not the people
@Isaiah Agboh They should spend some money and get a quick, technically gifted forward e.g. Mbappe (not that they can but someone with his speed and techniques). I think Nkuku can make a great addition. They had some good chances but couldn't take them because they are lacking in that position
@@howardramaru6674 Look at how City dominates the premier league and yet they were made to defend for 45 minutes, to maintain a 1:0 lead!! Atletico's style needs improvements but the way they play, the passion and energy, you don't see that a lot. I can only compare to how South American clubs compete.
@@CarlosCarlosChannel man city played an intensive game against Liverpool 2 days before playing madrid ...their energy levels went down n they couldn't execute at a high level forgive them for being human. If city were fresh atletico Madrid wouldn't have had that chance and their style don't need improvement they need to change n start asserting themselves, they have superstars in that team, great talentEd players who can play attacking football
@@howardramaru6674 Exactly
Those english pundits were defending OGS for god sake🤣
I am sick of people complaining about teams not playing this "beautiful style of football". In a knockout competition such as Champions League it is vital to reduce the amount of risk and create a lack of opportunities for the other team. Historically knock-out competitions have been won by teams who play a more defensive style.
I thought the game today was one of the most exciting matches of the entire tournament despite being a 0-0 draw. The passion, and grit in this game was beautiful and is why I love the game.
Don't know why everyone is bitter. But, I do respect Atletico Madrid. Simeone did a marvelous job there, winnig trophies both in Europe and spain against all the odds. Everyone here knows they have world-class players in their team but they play like they play because the coach wants them to play like that, it's their identity and you never hear one of their players complain, on the contrary they give it their all. English people need to relax a bit, it's not like every english team is playing good football or "tiki-taka" which they don't even know what it means they think any possession based play style is called tiki-taka which is not. Graham used to play a defensive type of football and he is hailed by the arsenal fans because it worked and he won titles. Man utd fans complain because their team don't show grit and fight in games like they used to but when atleti do it, it's anti-football. If I remember correctly, Atletico has more european pedigree than man city. There isn't one way to play football. English fans need to relax, i've seen atletico play like this since Simeone came in, but I never complained, we had games where we dominante the possession, have 20 shots and score none...but, we never complain because we know who we're up against. And any crying on social media isn't going to make them change, we just have to roll with it. So, chill. Just because you saw good football for like five years doesn't mean you have to attack anyone who play any style they see fit.
One of the best comments I read about Atleti. The English press and media are hating and bashing Atleti to the point of ridiculousness
Best Comment 👍🏾 You took everything right out of my mouth. The hypocrisy is just too much. They all complain about a team not having an identity but bickering when there's a solid on like Cholo.
Since Messi, Xavi and Iniesta stopped being in Pep's team, Simeone reached 2 CL finals compared to Pep's 1. So shut up!
"I would have liked them to play more attacking" How has that worked for teams trying to play like-for-like against City in the last 3/4 seasons? Outside of the annual slip up against Brighton, Norwich, or another mid to lower tier EPL team, it's resulted in them getting torn to shreds. Why would Simeone, who likes a compact, organized formation, open up and leave his team exposed for City to slap them by 3+ goals. The game is soft and we need more managers like Simeone that'll bring back some grit and passion to this soft generation of "footballers".
If your 1st language is French like Frank, Jules and I, maybe you noticed that he said " I condone what Savic did, I condone was Felipe did" instead of "I do not condone". It's because in french is kind of the opposite with the word "condamner" which means convict. " Don't worry guys he meant the right thing lol. I've always noticed his French phrasing structure and terminologies. It so unconscious no matter how well you speak in English, Jules does it too.
Where would atl be if simeone wasn't there? They would be a mid table team with a 50m transfer budget. So atl fans see simeone as their GOAT.
50 million is even pushing it they were in a financial crisis when he took over .
The fans of Atleti is awesome.
Bruh how does real madrids name even end up in this conversation our success really pains people whether we play good or bad 💯
Luis is a try hard barcelona fan, he is always thinking abiut real madrid he has an obsession against us
@Alan James atletico being defensive is alright but they were making crazy tackles and elbows to players head even in the first half
@Alan James why is ramos and pepe in this conversation? lolz
@Alan James Real played defensively in one game against PSG to where they didnt have a shot on target. Real hasnt played like that in years. It's a stupid comparison. If these Atletico players cant stop involving physically in the match like they did, then there is nothing to talk here. City played well in the whole first leg and Atletico played good in the second half of second half which doesnt deserve more respect than that coz one half in a two legged tie is not gonna cut it
Love this channel the panel great stuff guys !
Luis can't get his point across. The better team is not the one who is more attacking or the one who has the most chances, Real Madrid is one of the best cause they take their changes, they are more efficient & clinical in attack.
i doubt it, Chelsea had 48 shots against Madrid, that's not what the best team should have.
@@juanestebankruhsanmguel1960 How many went in and who's still in the competition? If Chelsea were better, surely they would have scored more out of 50 shots.
@@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo RM are in because Benzema overperformed his XG, not because they are the better team.
@@juanestebankruhsanmguel1960 that's exactly what clinicality is mate
That's how Atletico won the league last season. Suarez was over performing relative to his xG.
nice to see Craig back
It’s a pity that all English pundits are similar. To be fair Felipe has gave Foden a little clip after Foden landed on him. If an Athleti player had rolled into the pitch just the way Foden did, all those pundits would have been on his head. Yes all those theatrics weren’t needed but it was a tensed game.
did you see what felipe did to foden in the first half? he got off without even getting a card. in the same half he made a rash challenge on KDB as well and then he got an yellow card which should have been second. city players are not like barca players who roll over and try to get a player sent off
I don't think 1-0 over two legs against Man City with their current state is a result that deserves this much controversy. ATM certainly deserves to be applauded here.
EPL pundits don't get it. Compare ATM to Man C, similar size clubs or circumstances but different routes to get where they are. Man C bought the beautiful game, bought Pep, players, bought coaching staff, La Masia scouts/coachs & their academy. Man C like ATM were overshadowed by the clubs in their city that were the most known & biggest in the world.
ATM didn't buy success, the money they have is through their success. They have achieved such success because of hard work, grit & had to be dirty to win. To compete against Real Madrid, they had to develop such a mentality. Man C didn't have to fight or bleed to compete against Man U, they just bought, bought till they competed but surpassed Man U.
ATM have fans, manager & most players who struggled with the team. Of course "they can't understand" as ATM fans chanted, EPL no longer has that. Even NUFC is getting saved by money, not hard work or unity.
And also remember how much they hate Simeone in England since the Beckham WC incident of 98. Theyve had it in for him for decades. Let them bark themselves to sleep I say. AUPA ATLETI!!!
What does that have to do with their play style and antics presently? Lol Diego Simeone is literally the highest paid manager in football and they have a super expensive squad with Joao Felix being more expensive than any City player. So how does Atletico not have money? Surely they should be playing better by now
The money they have is through selling players though for inflated amount! And I love the fact that City makes simeone and all atletico sympathisers cry and complaining like true losers!
Yo, nothing wrong with being more physical or playing with emotions, but Atletico were playing like thugs. They were intentionally kicking city players, intentionally flying into tackles and ended up injuring 3 city players. Atletico should’ve seen at least 2 reds, if not more. Nothing wrong with being physical or tough to beat, but don’t go out and try and injure the opposition ffs.
Similar size clubs ?? Atletico don’t need oil money to compete city would be in the championship without oil money
I enjoyed the game the intencity🔥
Athletico style of play works, the guy has been successful and you can't ask for more than that, they don't have the players city have
Suarez almost scored in last minute extra time but Ake saved it. No one sees that thoe
And I think there was a clear penalty in the last seconds of the game. What was VAR doing? Simeone's tactics on another day would have worked. His team out-hustled City off there ball.
And correa, and de paul, and Cunha all had clear chances, not to mention the countless half chances. These pundits are blind
@@lj1177 yeah another day like the first leg?
@@lj1177 VAR was too busy admiring all the crazy tackles, head-butts & hair pulling by atletico players
If VAR had done its job Atletico would have been down to 9 men. I love Atletico fans acting like they were treated unfairly. 😂
Real Madrid did it for 1 game , Atletico do it every game Luis.
Teams like Atletico and managers like Simeone are needed in football. There's no positive or negative way to play football
@@abstraqtphilosophy7357 Nah~~ Atletico is absolutely a trash team. If that's the only way they can play, the door of UFC is always open for them. I hope UEFA and FIFA gives SAVIC and FELIPE a heavy penalty like 6month suspension.
@Darhem Naidabe You probably thought the match was exciting. You maybe were thrilled like you got booster shot of adrenaline while you were watching the match. However, don't forget that you are not the only kind of people. There are many people coming to watch with family. No parents would like to show their kids such scenes. If football loses the future customers, the business will go down eventually.
@@cesk7041 you talk about parents not bringing kids to not show this kind of match. So what happens if their kid becomes a footballer and happens to play in this kind of match. They'll not survive. And how are you judging the whole match based on some last ten minutes. It seems to me like you're very narcissistic about your opinion and don't want others to play the game as they like 🙄
@@biharibabu9141 Still no lesson from Felipe? Only idiots teach their kids violence. If you teach your kids that way, they will only experience of being kicked out of the game. So it is not surviving.
Who says atleticos style is not pretty, I'm an atleti fan, I enjoy every min of our game
Frank is the 🐐 perfect opinión totally agree. Send me one of your books 📚
Listen, Man United might not thank me but get the contract out, put it on the table. Let him sign it, let him write whatever numbers he wants to put on there, given what he's done since he's come in. RANGNICK'S (Ole 3.0) at the wheel, man. He's doing it. He's doing his thing. MAN UNITED ARE BACK!!!
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Well said Frank le Bouef.
On this occasion, I think Frank Leboeuf pontificates too much.
I pray for them to be in the same group next season
RO16, when the stakes are higher
@@ikyinky5680 yeah you’re right.
I thought group stage because they play two games, what a mong I am
Imagine if Atleti won the tie. The English press and media (and probably fans) would've gone crazy and hating Atleti for eternity. The amount of hate from the English press and media is just ridiculous. Nicole says fans were applauding Simeone and the team like he's some kind of messiah. So by Stevie's perspective, the fans are either crazy or stupid. What do you want? Do you want to dismantle the team and put Simeone behind bars? Every manager has he's own style and Simeone's style is this and he got results with it. The only thing missing is the UCL which I hope they win it next year or in the near future. I know a lot of people who became Atleti fans when Simeone became the coach and started to get results. Simeone is payed to get results not to play beautiful and fancy football. Now I'm not saying he's style is the best and I like to see them attack more but that's something they need to figure it out. Nobody is talking about the time wasting from City because Atleti does this kind of things and they deserve it. In fact it's the opposite and everybody is defending them because like I said that's what Atleti does. It's like someone verbally abuses me and I have to do the same and respond. And stop with the whole anti-football thing. If you don't like their style then that's your problem because I don't think they're going to change
Well said shaqka
Frank is right on this. You cannot say anti football to teams parking the bus. Who decided that football is all about tiki taka, lmao. There are so many tactics and approaches to a game other than attack.
Liverpool don't play tika taka with the players atletico have they can play much better
@@denzel1989 I agree with that, they can attack a bit more. But still, football is not all about attack and press. There are teams with attacking style, but there're also teams who's identity is defense. which makes football beautiful.
Tiki Taka? Nobody plays tiki taka nowadays bro. Tiki taka means that you have to take the ball and instantly pass it. The fact that you think Pep play “tiki taka” just shows how ignorant you’re about football.
@@ziyadkarim5042 You can play defensively without playing anti football. Atletico Madrid isn’t a football team
@@LeonardoTen And you decided it's anti football because there's a role that football should be appealing with beautiful passes, right?
Why does these videos posted on one ESPN half hours ago and then another shortly after about the same Atletico vs City? Are the comments suppose to be copy and pasted from that other ESPN channel to this one? I'm just saying it makes no sense to post two videos about Atletico vs City 20 minutes apart
Phil foden roles his self on to the pitch to disrupt play.
I just love how city give atletico a taste of there own medicine they dish it but can’t take it. Well done city
You don't get to say they beat them at their own game when they sworn they would never play like that... hypocrisy at its best from the inventor of modern (and prehistoric) football Pep.
I dont like that the criticism of the pundits is mostly based on the last 10 minutes, thats what Atletico was in the past, they do make a point that alot of us think that Atletico needs to play attacking football they have players that are good at it as shown two years ago when they slaughtered Real Madrid when all the players had just joined and no one really knew each other they just knew attacking football. Simeon does play defensive when he doesn't need to but also when he tried playing attacking it didn't work out, until he put Hector Herrera and that was clear how he controlled the midfield allowed the entire team ti attack, he didn't have his midfielder so ofc he would default to defensive football and at the end Herrera not playing I was surprised they pushed Man city back so much, why couldn't the whole team play like that always.
We are talking the last 10. Or should be. You can have opinions on whether 5-5 is good bad or indifferent. Its the behaviour when it wasn't working that was unacceptable. My worry is some guy that has been spat at in the tunnel and goes for Savage gets the punishment as Aki did for defending Foden. Athletico are the gamesmanship masters and when they got it back they couldn't handle it. Truly disgusting bunch of wankers.
Sorry Luis garcia is wrong on this one. Real Madrid was forced to defend they don't sot back and hit on counters against teams like Levante, which Atletico literally does.
I think Simeone's Atletico Madrid were about to make a miracle, however they were facing Pep's Man City. In fact, Simeone's team knows how to play from defensive part, their only issue is they usually disappoint in the decisive moments.
Atletico Madrid is the best ❤🔥
Luis García is spot on. He’s been a great addition to the crew. YNWA
I agreed with Shaka.👍
Athletico Madrid fans seem to like this approach! They seem to look at it as their identity. And they feel as though Diego is the correct manager for that. So it really doesn't matter what the studio panel thinks pertaining to this. Keep up the good work guys 👍🏾👊🏿
Frank is right
WHAT ARE YOU TALKIN ABOUT SHAKA HIS-FLOP ?!
How far can a La Liga Champion and Spain Top 3 go if they Don't go out to get that 30+- Win year in year out for 10 years ? Atletico already is the 2nd or 3rd most scoring team in LaLiga right now. They just pick and choose in how they approach their opponents. They are pragmatic and strategic just something naive English football is foreign to.
I can blame simione for couple of reasons. They were too defensive and afraid for 135 mins. Defending without scoring, complaining about the things they always do, some behaviours of the players. But simione had success with his approach. Even though i don’t like it that’s also part of football.
Is all about result. Look at Villarreal. Defended like crazy and took their chances and now every one is completely in love with villarreal and are calling emery a tactical genius. You have to be smart when playing teams that are on paper and technically better then you. If Villarreal had played beautiful football like Juls suggests, they would've lost by at least 4 goals. Same goes with Atletico.
The difference is Villarreal doesn’t have enormous talented players like Atletico have they were the underdogs from the get go. Understandable to Juls point Atletico prove they can dominate teams like City so why Atletico play like this more often instead of just defending. You dont have to believe which team is better on paper. Its shows that Simeone has doubt on his players or just his style of playing
Basically Simione made a 2 leg tie into 1. He succeeded. If Atheliti had scored and took the game to extra time. It was no given that City would have gone through. Fair play to him. But Luis, Real doesn't kick the 💩 out of their opponents.
I agree with Frank, was a good game so much action, bring on the dark arts yeah!!!
We need more fight 😘 in football
I'm no city fan but u have to give them respect.. and sit back... not alot of teams can go at them like Liverpool and if u do u will get ripped apart
Simeone has tried to change his style of play a few times and they end up getting exposed
Because he's not a good manager.
Defense wins championships in almost every sport.
Which is why City went through
Love Champions League Football!!
It started when Foden rolled back into the pitch after the Felipe tackle outside the sidelines just to stop play, that's why Savic held his shirt and dragged him out of the pitch but of course city capitalised so as to hang on the ropes and buy time lol. Pundits didn't complain about that rubbish
Why should they?….Atletico are the masters of that rubbish…..in the last 30 mins of the 2nd leg against Man Utd….the ball was in play for 11 mins…..They got a taste of their medicine….Glad they are out
If Felipe hadn't intentionally kicked Foden, none of that would have happened. You cannot blame Man City at all for using some of Atletico's own tactics against them. It's called karma.
@@imouto4hire Foden made it worse by rolling 10 million times like a baby
I like sexy football but I also accept that there are many ways of winning football matches. But, for Simeone to encourage his players to be that violent, I don't think something to be praised for. Simeone and his players must be strongly condemned so that they can stop that madness and play football only.
The way how Shaka is speaking you would swear that simeone has finished out of the top 10 every year and never won anything. Steupzz
i would rather see more of this figth than just boring football which sometimes happen when City is playing against some of the bigger boys (Liverpool, Real Madrid, Chelsea etc.), especially El Clasico needs this figth and also the Liverpool - Manchester City games. I hate seing after the game both teams hugging each other instead of showing the pure hate towards each other
Miracle is too big a word for this.. they were only 1 down and still had let xG than city in the second game
All I can say here is Atletico Madrid not to play clean football. Not trying to intimidate strangers just because you cannot have your way through. This has to stop at once.
I've just become an athletico fan 😈
Atletico* welcome
You all are clueless really. Atleti has always been known as an attacking team. Attack is in their DNA. What they didn't do well is defense. They can score 3 goals but equally can let past 4 goals in a match. In came Simeone and changed all that and Atletico got results. It landed them 2 La Ligas 2 Europas and Champions League Final twice.
They curbed their Attacking instinct so that they get the result by not conceeding goals. So in case of Man City, Atleti has always have that ability to fight back and Attack. It was just a matter of when to do it. They wouldn't risk it in the 1st leg. They kept it for their Home Leg. But because they've conceded 1 goal to minimize risk of falling 2-0 they've decided to All Out Attack in the 2nd Half. As you all have seen we've BROKEN City's passing game and sent them to resort to the 'Dark Arts' themselves. We've DONE that to Pep's barca and Bayern Munich way before. Simeone and Pep were no stranger to each other in The Champions League or La Liga. In fact it was Simeone's Atletico that managed to contain Messi Barca in certain matches.
Simeone is cautious and a Master Pragmatist but that just belies the True Attacking Power of Atletico de Madrid. We have always know how to Attack.
Didn't Kiko, Vieri, Hasselbaink, Forlan, Aguero, Fernando Torres, Falcao, Diego Costa, Griezmann, Joao Felix ring any bell ??
You Can't be that Daft, Can You ?
Im all bout tough matches with physicality but if you still have the never to call a lot of kicks on foden or the hair pulling of grealish from savic physicality then u wrong. We play soccer not for injuries yes they happen but it not supposed to be a norm. This is not UFC. If they want Savics type of physicality I think UFC will give them an opening without even regretting it.
Isnt this strategy 101? If a team is better than you, you park the bus in your 18 and try to hit them on the counter attack? Im with Luis and Frank, Jules and Shaka can say they have offensive weapons and could have played more positive but thats all theoretical, especially against a team like City who will punish any mistake or exploit any space in a heart beat. Im a bit disappointed with Shaka, Jules, Stevie and Craig who made it pretty personal against Simeone and seem to think his "negative style" is his alone or something new. It seems he was just giving his team the best chance of winning. Good discussion
Atletico does not have a blank check for transfer like city, they play with what they have. If it was miracle to beat city that means we've been seeing miracle every year that city have been beaten
Lol 130m for Felix says different.
Excuse. Lower team play modern football whether they have money or not
Athletic were by far the better team on the day .
No sane individual only talks about real madrids second game only. The first real madrid game, they were terrible vs. Psg. In atleticos first game, terrible was their plan from the beginning. Real madrid pressed much better and attacked much better in their second game because they knew they were terrible. While atletico in their second game had the same plan almost the entire game. Thats the difference.
Madrid were terrible because PSG made them look bad, Atletico was horrible because that's how they are.
Falto muy poco
Luis is waffling about Real Madrid to deflect from how awful Atleti were
I still dont understand why suarez is not playing as a starter
He can't run anymore. Simple.
Exactly!!!
Atletico need Darwin nunez
@@jimmyzoso6272 is not about running mate is about the experience and link up play that suarez has he is able to free wingers through his movement suarez is a pure number 9 and all his experience in europe is much needed for ATM in big games
Saurez didn't bite anyone is a plus?
I want Simeone in England. I will be fun man.
It will be Spanish Burnley
I love atletico Madrid
When Pep came to England they were so critical of his style of play and now it funny to see English fans complaining that ATM is using English identity to solve there problems. I remember statements like “ EPLis so physical and that wouldn’t be a foul in EPL. Now all of a sudden English fans and press talking about ATM is be dirty And they are not playing attacking and possession football.. English teams over recent yrs are adapting Spanish way of playing and acting like they invented possession and attacking football.
Little pathetic to see Enrique compare Real Madrid performance to Atheltico, pure delusion 🤡
You guys hurt Luis Garcia's feelings.
Frank is right Man City struggled
They looked tired from playing a fast paced opponent Liverpool over the weekend.
@@linekerv Agree. And yet they still comfortably handled them in 135 out of 180 mins
@@oliverboisen7475 Exactly
There is no right or wrong way of playing football
Dear Frank. Times change and humans and the games they play evolve! Not long ago we were not able to go watch a game in England because of the hooligans. Now it is different, and better. The fact that you equate Atletico to a time when you and Craig played...wake up and realize we are not playing to break players ankles. Atletico went too far, and I, like Craig, am delighted they are out.
Regardless of what you call change happening in football; don’t you think some people miss the old kind of play.
I miss it and I wish my team can show some aggression as Atlético.
I’m not saying it’s the best way but football can’t change wholly without holding on to some of it’s past.
@@abebeone7526 Dear Abede. What 'old kind of play' are you referring to? Maradona had to leave Spain because they broke his ankle. Its not that in Italy at the time, they were 'nice', but there was not this extreme type of play. I certainly like Atletico and their passion. Before last night I also liked Simeone and how he embodied this. But they went too far in my opinion. Playing with passion is great, and yes, I wish more teams played with this passion. But why not mimick the passion of Klopp, or Conte? Simeone's players are obviously being asked to go that far. This ceases to be our beautiful game, in my opinion, and becomes quite 'ugly'.
I also accept when a team decides to 'play physical' to make the other team feel a bit of strength. But there is a point where this needs to stop and Simeone and Atletico didn't realize that they were going too far. In my opinion there needs to be a line and the referees need to uphold this. So when Atleti, or another team push this limit, they should be down to 8 or less players. How well would that strategy work!? Thanks for your thoughts!
@@masogabi Maradona isn’t a good example,he left Spain to Italy which was one of the dirtiest leagues by then in terms of tackles.
I understand your reasoning but why should he play like Klopp and Conte?
He made his name as Diego Simeone and you can see the fans of Atlético like him that way. He has put Atlético on the map of football.
I don’t see why he should change because outsiders want to see a so called beautiful game.
Bielsa played beautiful football and his team got trashed heavily till he lost his job.
People seem to forget that fans may want entertainment but the managers are under enormous pressure to win.
Again I’m not saying it’s the best of footballing standards but who define those standards. In my opinion,it’s win at all cost.
Manchester united is waiting for diego simeone to together take revenge against guardiola and man city.
Everybody is so obsessed wit freeflowing football they basically forget the basic of football, you want AM to play tikatak during the of messi era foolish, simone had done enough to prove himself both football with and money wise for football club, dnt forget little time ago they have won the laliga, dnt be greedy man, basically either u r asking manager to change his philosphy or to sack the manager.
Shaka, Man city didn’t decide to defend either. The fact is they had had to