Why NBA Players Struggle In FIBA Basketball?
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- čas přidán 3. 09. 2023
- The recent loss of the USA Men's National Basketball Team to Lithuania highlighted certain weaknesses in some of its players, revealing how FIBA basketball rules can expose NBA stars.
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Why Americans Don't Understand European Basketball : czcams.com/video/gwbUHpKDHy8/video.html
Because Americans don't know how to play defense
More like exposing how NBA rules value entertainment more than the actual game with all the rules changing
Facts
Exactly. Real basketball is played by FIBA rules. Nba has slowly become its own thing unfortunately
They literally made it to the semis with this group, if they were so soft as claimed they wouldn’t have made it this far.
Nope, this is a narrative that Europeans use to excuse the lack of competitiveness that there's here compared to the nba. In realty they were just athletically superior, and constantly adapt the rules to the new generations of players
@@nailil5722 what makes it real basketball? If we look at the original rules that was Naismith's basketball which ended in the 70s with merge of nbl and aba (an going through some giants like George mikan and wilt chamberlain that forced the game to change it's rules)
American Basketball became too focused on flashy basketball and removed the phisicality which (should) be a trademark of the game. Offensive players have all the advantage: no hand checking, any contact is immediately called as a defensive foul, refs don't call obvious travels and carries, etc.
That's why so many players are having ridiculous PPG stats. SGA averaged 31.4 - more than Michael Jordan in some of his MVP seasons. Lebron is clearly much slower than he was back in the day and still his PPG is going up.
tbf SGA was dropping close to 30 almost every game this event too in less than 40 mins but everything you say is true
People arguing that players in the 90s were just plumbers needs a reality check. The game has changed to commercialize it for the masses. Even if these players have more talent today, they lack so much fundamentals about the game that 90s players understood.
I HATE seeing players posting up at the free throw line and butt bumping their way to the basket. Can NBA players even score in isolation without creating space by throwing their shoulders into the defender? It's no wonder that iso-ball doesn't work in international play. It's STUPID.
shai was the worst player to use for this
@@johnceliz9061dumbest comment ever, the fundamentals of basketball change with evolution… fundamental was keeping your hand on top of the ball and only switching if necessary, should the 90s players have kept that 60s mentality? like what?
Difficult sport when you are not allowed free travel and multiple points on freethrows derived from flopping
@@chris4231 words spoken by someone who's never touched a basketball
No the game is actually easier when you play by the rules and have solid fundamentals...
These modern NBA guys lack the above
@@chris4231 It is definitely a skill to playing defense. Whoever told you it isn't lied to you
@@chris4231 ah dont worry we will beat you up in court anyway bad boy style and see who is crying.
@@chris4231take the L buddy, It's better y'all americans focus more on your LGBT community
I’m an nba fan since 1995 and the game today really isn’t basketball. It’s more like an exhibition or a globe trotters game. Just all for show and entertainment. No defence, no off ball movement and zero physicality. It’s not worth watching anymore.
The last time I felt the NBA played “basketball” was when Jordan was playing. The game now is positionless, where the 3 point shot is prioritizing over a mid range jump shot. The defense, especially the way the game is officiated, is penalized in favor of offense. Now it has become an inferior product designed to entertain. It is a shell of what it was 30 years ago.
FIBA: sport
NBA: business & entertainment
Well the NBA isn't basketball anymore. Focused on entertainment, no defense, 120+ points a game. It's a joke
The teams of the 60s, 70s 80s and 90s would easily beat the current joke of a league that the NBA is now. It is embarrassing how bad the league is.
The time play and the rules are big difference bro
Fiba is basketball chess, weird to see on display how few nba coaches and players understand defense... I guess they think it will be fine if they just score more
I was thinking about this through out this fiba games this yr. Its like chess
Cmon NBA is still the absolute best basketball and is full of basketball chess. All the team USA coaches are absolutely elite and we've seen incredible "chess matches" from them. If you put these FIBA coaches in the NBA then theyd also look like idiots since they dont understand NBA defensive principles.
@@jojoprocess2820NBA has no defense. That is the issue.
Honestly watching the NBA has become boring. You know every possession is gonna end up with a 3-ball. And whenever we don't get a three, we get a player flailing for a free throw. That's 80% of an NBA game. I only watch because of habit, but honestly the games are not as entertaining as before.
Sometimes I think the amount of basketball talent in the USA actually hurts them. The team chemistry is often not there because they don't play together for as long as european teams do and you end up with some astounding turnovers. This is of course a small part of why I think US is struggling. Just having stars is not enough anymore. Every country has a star player or two at this point.
if you look at the culture of america, and look at the videos of young players. they're all about posturing, acting tough, trying look awesome and being individual. it's a shit culture. it's not a team mentality.
Why do you assume European players get more time to play together? Sure, it might happen on few occasion if some players are on the same club team. But that can also be true for USA team. World champonship happens just as often. Is there no equivalent in Norh america for the European Championship?
Flash over substance.
@@pintiliecatalinit’s not an assumption it’s fact. It’s a must that you play on your national team in Europe or else they get punished in their domestic leagues. So some guys have been playing with each other for YEARS. In the USA there is so much talent that they don’t force guys to play.
@@pintiliecatalin It's a fact. Just look at US national team rosters in the past decade and other european countries'.
USA strategy of having so much more talent/skill than the other team that it can overcome deficiencies like not rotating effectively on defense or isolation plays is not effective anymore.
))) your brain is not effective anymore if you think that those players sent to the world champ is best what usa can offer. If lbj, curry, durant, davis will play in world cup, 1st place is decided by default.
It not being sustainable to have the best U.S. players in the NBA also play in all international events in the offseason all the time forever when the NBA has an 82-game season is part of why the USA strategy of winning through superior talent and iso ball has limitations.
Especially when Team USA doesn't pay much and also the allure of patriotism and patriotic symbols for African Americans hasn't really been supported by the recent behavior of the white Americans way into those symbols, to say the least.
@@fenzelian Where did he say it was the best US players?? USA has a much higher population than every other country reaching the finals - like 5 times more than the next closest in Germany. So really, dipshit, the top 100 US players should really be a lot better than any other country's players.
I guess you don't remember the times team USA almost lost in the olympics with most of the players you just mentioned?
@@Bloodalbik
Americans before the tournament: "Favorites alongside with France."
Americans after the tournament: "We didn't want to win anyways!"
Speaking of Lithuania (I'm from Latvia myself). It's insane, how such small *neighboring* countries as Latvia and Lithuania met on the other side of continent to compete for the 5th place among world's top national basketbol teams It's insane! 😆 Today fans will be gathering at the airport to meet and greet our team.
enjoy the fun!
wait isn't basketball a first national sport in Lithuania even comes before football ?
@@gvm271
Sure is, sort of their national religion.
In Latvia ice-hockey takes priority, I guess, however basketball and bobsleigh are important too.
I thought Latvia is all about ice hockey and Lithuania all about basketball. The Soviets always got their best players from Lithuania. If the USSR still existed they would have a really good team bc of a much larger talent pool and better sports system
@@Jose-sy1je
No idea if it stil holds, but in 1990s Latvia set a world record for the number of teams in a streetball (2 on 2 basketball with a single basket) competition.
I guess Lithuania was always bigger in basketball, but IIRC even in Soviet times competition between Lithuanian "Žalgiris" and Latvian "VEF" was quite tough. Just don't quote me on this! I'm not into sports in general and on statistics of past games in particular. 🤣
I’m curious, what is your background in basketball? You seem to have a far better understanding of game dynamics than most of the “analysts” on CZcams. Did you play basketball, or coach it?
He's lithuanian...
We are European & learnt to play basketball the fundamental way. I think the style of coaching here just gives many basketball “students” more insight on team ball. So you automatically need to understand whatever is happening on offense & defense, otherwise you’re out.
@@cyber5502watching European coaches completely changed my approach to the game. Elbow in on layups makes more sense fundamentally, for example, or practicing footwork like a futbol player, as opposed to a football player.
Please do not focus on the messenger. Focus on the messenge😅
There are very few analysts on CZcamss. CZcams is dominated by "take" culture, not to "breakdown" culture when it comes to sport.
Team USA's problem is too many stars, egos and iso players. Also none of them are good team defenders.
This team had 0 super stars...It had no top 10 players. It had no MVP candidates. I don't really understand what do you mean with too many stars.
"above average" NBA players together = same "superstar" level
@@chrisrianto7396 DUMB AND BLIND HAHA
WHAT!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA CAN YOU EVEN SEE SUPERSTAR IN THERE . IS JOSH HART A SUPERSTAR ?? HAHAHAHA THATS EVEN A WORST LINE UP OF ALL TIME TEAM USA FORM HAHAHA ARE YOU DUMB ? HAD YOU WATCH 2020 OLYMPICS WHEN ALL OF NBA SUPERSTARS PLAYING TOGETHER. ANY OTHER COUNTRY ARE NOTHING WHEN A LEGIT NBA SUPERSTAR PLAYERS PLAYING TOGETHER IN A USA JERSEY HAHA
@@leonardoyi3183 Lot of all stars cmon now don't play dumb. he never said super stars like you did. regardless they had the most outright talent by far which was his point. do you disagree?
Great point, and for some reasons, the NBA doesn't send their best rooster in Fiba world, and send their best in the Olympics, which is weird because fiba world is the equivalent of the World Cup,
A big reason is because most international teams have been playing together for years, thus having way better chemistry, USA teams are always just an assembly of all stars in the hopes that their talent will carry them
Thank you! 👍🏻
Thank you, the level has increased, they also have the advantage of playing together for years.
You can be Brazil, Argentina, France, Italy... If you send players who have never played together, you will never win the World Cup,Never!
Americans going this far is impressive
It surprises me that Europeans who know football have little iq to understand that..
Is this basically Brazil in recent FIFA World Cups?
Alot of comments seem to talk about how USA lost cause of NBA rules made offense too easy. But if that's the case, then USA team would struggle offensively. If anything, USA had one the most potent offense in the tournament. They had the best FG% and shot nearly 40% from 3pt line despite averaging the most shots in the tournament.
This video within 1min already expressed the main issue. USA doesnt know how to play defense within FIBA rules. Which is why their loses also resulted their opponents (canada, Lithuania and germany) having some of their best offensive performances.
USA's shtick is to play switching defense which doesnt work without elite coordination (which they dont have) as well as help defense (They stick to their man after switching).
This video within one minute is already showing how USA doesnt know how to capitalize on the FIBA rules (no 3 seconds and clogging the paint)
Did NBA rules make team USA struggle? Yes, because of them not adjusting and not because of player quality.
All this shows is USA cannot settle on their talent and need to learn how to properly play within the FIBA rules
Here is an interesting question though: many of the final teams (incl. Germany that beat the US in the end) are also full of NBA players. Yet they don't seem to have the same issue. Is that cause the European grown players learned to play in Europe (thus have different/more adaptive fundamentals) or is it that US coaches don't understand how to structure their defense on the international stage while their european counterparts do? 🤔
@DarkHarlequin I would guess the latter. Most of the time, if it's a consistent team problem, it's a coaching thing. It's the same reason not many of the nba players in the other international teams aren't dominating defenders in nba since they are better in team defence rather than iso defence
Yeah the U.S. is in trouble in the international game not because NBA rules made offense too easy, but rather because they made defense too hard. Successfully executing a defensive possession in the NBA is so difficult relative to the reward that teams only really do it to the top of their ability consistently in the playoffs. This means a lot of the top regular-season players aren't really tested for their defensive ability all that much anymore - the return on investment for making the most of defensive possessions just isn't there.
Nobody cares that most of the top 20 players in the NBA statistically in any given year - or even probably half the All-Star teams - are defensive liabilities relative to a replacement player - as long as they can generate an overwhelming volume of efficient offense. And that's where people want to look to find the best players. They prioritize offensive statistics over playoff success, which is what tests defense - and which makes sense if you're playing by the NBA rules where defense is very weak and still takes a ton of effort.
A guy like Anthony Edwards - a regular season darling with little playoff success - is thus on team USA and is considered a potential superstar, and a guy like KCP - a top college player, two-time NBA champion, who would be on the national team of any other country he was born in - has never been on Team USA.
But defense is buffed in the international game - you get more reward for less investment. It would make sense to bring more defensive players. And where you find them is guys who were really good in college and have a ton of NBA playoff success but aren't considered superstars.
If you have Steve Kerr as your coach you are already signaling you are not trying to play this kind of basketball and are instead prioritizing overwhelming the opponent with efficient shooting - which of course is the dominant strategy right now in the NBA.
But for international rules, if team USA can't bring their very, very best superstars to international play, I think they would be better off bringing more defensive guys with proven success getting to or winning the finals - like KCP, Brook Lopez, Bam Adebayo - and I think you'd see them outperform the guys with more high-profile regular season success as volume or iso scorers in the offense-friendly game.
As an example - Daniel Theis has made the Eastern Conference Finals twice since 2020 and his playoff defensive stats are impressive. His regular season stats by comparison are not good at all. He would never have been picked for Team USA, but here he is winning with Germany.
Basketball is basketball, you either can play the game great or you cannot. If anything Fiba exposed current NBA players for not knowing the game. What Fiba teams are doing is nothing different than what old school NBA teams did, which current NBA players despise.
Old school NBA destroyed international teams while current NBA players struggle
@@fenzelian "Nobody cares that most of the top 20 players in the NBA statistically in any given year - or even probably half the All-Star teams - are defensive liabilities" ...
I see your 'FIBA is just wrong so it doesn't count' argument and I guess it's a stance you can take if you want to argue that nothing but NBA should matter. But I would argue if on a 5 man on field team game you're a defensive liability ...that's not good... maybe you're just not as 'All Star - best in the world' as initially thought?😅
No travel, No carry, No Prima Donnas.
Back in the day other countries feared the USA Basketball team but now they want to show how soft USA Basketball team is. Talent is there but they know how mentally weak we are
the played with their C team, they already announced their team for rhe olympics next year. then we will see the win gold
An NBA player, Dennis Schroeder, won mvp.
An international* NBA player
Maybe becoz european uses motion offense more, less dribble, more passing looking out for the open man. There is no one man show either. In defense, they often use collapsing defense withn the hoop behind their back, and there is always help defense for the opponents open man
Americans are just used to a different style of defence . Nothing is wrong with the americans one man show. Their offence was great.
@@burrybondz225Everything is wrong with it when very talented players are playing way below what they are capable of. It is a travesty what it has turned into.
Steve Kerr is one of the weaker coaches in the NBA he just happened upon Steph Curry honestly, as an American basketball enthusiast we do very little scouting and very little game planning for FIBA World Cup games we stopped playing competitively after the first loss and team were the rookies of our league
So it’s all Steph Curry? Does Kerr dont have a big factor with his development? Bruh, they got a better placement this FIBA year than last time with Popovich.
@@jystaycall mark jackson
Wooah your videos so good in quality and you lithuanian too glad we have such talented people in Lithuania. Love it
I hope this bring back the good fundamental basketball back to the NBA
No, it won't, because all those records would never be improved.
Not going to happen. NBA giving the fans what they want. MORE HIGHLIGHTS by changing some of the rules.
The NBA having 5 straight MVPs from Europe/Africa speaks volumes. Basketball is more international than ever and the US team can't just cruise past everyone like in 1992. This has been the case for some time now.
Adding to that, NBA ball is becoming increasingly different from FIBA ball.
MVPs don't mean much, Cristiano Ronaldo won 5 golden balls and has dominated football for years yet Portugal has never really been a real top team and French/Spanish/Germans are the most dominant of the last 2 decades. Being at the top doesn't mean you represent other good players, it's all about the average, and you can't deny Americans take most spots of the top 20.
@@heroe1486 still, it seems like the best players increasingly come from abroad. Quality over quantity. That says something.
@@Ivander85 2 really good players don’t beat out 28 other really good players. Lets relax
Now I know Why Luka says NBA is easier. Cause so much space for him to dance
Excellent video. Ive been wondering this myself. Hope this blows up
I mean, i wouldn’t really call a team missing the legitimate best players in its league losing a couple of close games “struggling”. It’s like we all have this weird arrogant notion that if a USA team isn’t steam rolling, dominating 100% of the time, it means they’re struggling. I agree with many American players not being able to adapt fully to the different rules, mindsets, and mechanics of interactional basketball, I just think struggling isn’t really a fair word.
People just hyping things up as usual, beating the USA is like a Miracle to these other teams
Team USA loses in the Olympics and FIBA World Cup since the Dream Team:
Argentina (twice)
Yugoslavia
Spain
Puerto Rico
Lithuania (thrice)
Greece
France (twice)
Serbia
Germany
Canada
Because they call travel, double dribble, carry, flopping, and they play defense.
Noah Lyles having the last laugh.. not even 4 weeks after getting trashed by big egos 😂
Awesome video bro 😎
I think many NBA team fall into the trap of jacking up 3s and hoping it’s an ON night, it works in a series to 4 but not single game tournaments
We often ask, how would modern NBA players go against the "plumbers and firemen" of the 1960s. Its seems to me with the stricter rules of FIBA, it gives an indication...not well.
Lol what?? The international players will demolish those geezers too. Did you forget that a lot of nba players are on the other teams too.
Not NBA players. Americans. NBA players actually won the Fiba tournament. :D
You mean NBA players were.. world champions? Wait
And the NBA is an American league 🧠
@@MrMEINNAMEISTMENSCH Schroder is an NBA player. That is what he is trying to say.
@@mryup6100An American league with MVPs won by foreigners.
Well said, European basketball puts the team first, usa has always been individual success and winning first
Every stereotype on Europeans coming into the NBA is them not being athletic and yet they form a less athletic small lineup to compete with. Most of the European teams have shooters around the same level if not better, they have better fundamental and and play big. No idea what the plan was besides moving the ball fast and shoot up 3's.
Exactly why in the world would they bring Jalen Brunson. A short arm stubby guy that's an advantage already then you got small bigs on the USA... they were at a disadvantage and at mismatches ...
Good video! Btw what’s the name of the song ? ☺️
We lost 2 more games after this video. We got cooked 🔥… America needs to start taking international play seriously. We are looking like an embarrassment.
Modern NBA is trash
American basketball style has changed. Previously the basketball style was getting the ball in the low post having the big as the focal point.
Now American basketball is more of a shooter first mentality rather than previous getting the ball to the low post then rotate the ball based on the defense.
Agree, having the best players on earth made them rely on they're big in the paint or on the all stars to go iso (in most cases), now the game has transitioned a lot more downtown. The long shots are more frequent and further (for all 5), the centers are playing more distant from the hoop. And more ball movement from the 3pt line.
The problem aint the offense. There's a reason why the NBA has shifted to a more perimeter oriented play, instead of a more low post game on offense. Three point shooting provides more spacing, and scoring efficiency goes up this way and the numbers pretty much supports that. The Americans didnt lost because of poor offense. The Americans lost because of poor Defense and bad rebounding.
@@leonardoyi3183 and that's because more and more players are encouraged to shoot the 3 ball thus lowering demand for big guys that specialize on defense, rebounding and scoring in the post.
@@nicola-xk5cp Rules those days allow more for better defense so it was harder for long range shooters, thus they are smaller percentage shots resulting to more misses that is why big men were important to rebound those misses. Good big men also produce high percentage shots as they are just around the rim.
@@imfinishedgrinding638 i think you are overreacting about the center thing. Even in the 80's and 90's center position was a liability for most teams. Heck, a lot of finals teams in the 90s had horrible starting centers (cartright and luc longley for the bulls, ervin johnson for the supersonics, greg ostertag for the jazz, oliver miller for the suns). But people like you, tend to think that was the golden era, just because the NBA had 3 or 4 centers that were really good (90s, hakeem, shaq, DR and ewing). The same story in the 80's. An Average starting center in the 90s was someone like olden polynice. Average starting center today is someone like Vucevic or Jonas Valencianas, players who would contribute a lot more than an Olden polynice. In fact, Valencianas and lituania beat that US Team. Today the NBA still have players who have great defense, rebounding and scoring on the post. Joel Embiid, Anthony Davis, Rudy Gobert, Bam Adebayo are good examples.
I feel like the NBA has become very soft over the years with the foul protection of major players, massive tightening in ability to check or body up players, very very soft rules around travelling etc. They would argue this makes it more exciting. You look at many of the European teams and even my home country (Australia) and they all play very physical. I personally appreciate that a lot more (as a player) and feel like the NBA of the 90s was played much more that way than it is now. The modern NBA also seems to prize 3 point shooting rather than the old school physical post and burn and high quality 2s.
International teams also universally play as a group, protecting the paint, helping on defence, and a lot less 'hero ball' (even if they do have NBA players). I completely agree that the elite NBA players are still just amazing, and take nothing away from them - they remain truly scary in one group. The issue they face is that many of the other teams play much better as a team that relies less on one on one brilliance and also that there are an increasing number of international players in the modern NBA who can switch modes to FIBA rules where required.
They definitely need to think harder about team composition, although having names like Steph and Lebron would instantly make the challenge a whole lot harder for others.
This brings me to the last point - there is a little bit of a lack of respect for other teams, not only in how they scout and prepare, but also just in the way the team is selected.
PS. To be clear I still enjoy watching the NBA which is an elite competition.
fiba has almost the same travel rules, tf u mean
@@wat4504the NBA doesn't enforce travels like ever watch almost any game you will see multiple instances of NBA players taking 3-4 steps without dribbling.
@@_-__. Already know you don't have any idea how travelling works when you said "steps without dribbling"
The nba calls travels. You just don't know what a travel is
Dude, if you improve the quality of your videos, editing, thumbnails, narration etc youre gonna explode on youtube. This is my constructive criticism, because you definetly have great content. Hopefully you do well
NBA is just a different sport at this point, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. The best NBA bigs tend to sacrifice rim protection and rebounding to be versatile enough to guard the talented offensive players in the league. Of course theyre gonna look out of place playing in a league that emphasizes physicality, has smaller courts, and doesnt have a 3 sec defensive rule. Just like all these top FIBA players would get embarrassed in the NBA on defense because they wouldnt be fast enough to keep up.
The NBA has no defense. Stop it.
@@marcelmarshall4240the nba has defense it’s just not the defense you like I guarantee if the USA played Lithuania with nba rules on a nba court Lithuania wouldn’t have sniffed 70 points
Cuz they think nba is the world, n nba basketball s different to the world, rules n everything
The USA won the last 4 Olympics and they use FIBA rules. The problem is not the players or NBA rules. It's the fact that they bring Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr is over-reliant on his 3-ball and thus uses a small ball 5 line up.
Then that would also break your logic because they have a better placement this FIBA under Steve Kerr than their 2019 FIBA run under Popovich. Smh
"Less time for NBA players to create" HOW?! Its still 24 seconds!
Can you do a video on traveling rules in NBA vs. Europe?
That's the result of the NBA's leniency towards their players' flopping and refs' very shallow emotions during officiating
Smaller court... not enough spacing. Players allowed to clog the paint on defense... in the NBA, there are both defensive and offensive three-second rules, while there is only an offensive three-second violation in FIBA, meaning defensive players can stay as long in the paint as they want without any repercussions.
Has anyone looked into why there is no space in FIBA but more space in NBA? Teams actually play like teams in FIBA?
it’s not that they struggle…they simply just don’t send their best men, period
Their are no back to the basket, physical big men left from USA
The rest of the world caught up to the USA in terms of skill and game knowledge.
Team work is the only real issue outside of the players not taking it as serious
good video 👍
It would be interesting to see one world tournament with nba rules. I know it would be an advantage for nba players but I'm more interested in seeing european style in that context in games that matter
True, the court sizes would be the biggest barrier.
I wouldn't mind that as long as they keep their referee officiating from the NBA away from it. It reeks.
Why would an international tournament apply the rules of a single national league? NBA rules only exist in the NBA, and there are a loooot of other countries.
don´t think that is a barrier, look at the size differences yourself.......
NBA FIBA
Court length 94 ft - 28.65 m 91.86 ft - 28 m
Court width 50 ft - 15.24 m 49.21 ft - 15 m
3-point line 23.75 ft - 7.24 m 22.15 ft - 6.75 m
22 ft corner - 6.70 m corner 21.65 ft corner - 6.60 m corner
Free-throw line 15 ft - 4.57 m 15.09 ft - 4.6 m
@@sebastianwobig330they would struggle the courts are smaller in fiba making defense easier
The amount of Travels visible from both teams in the slow motion footage is astonishing
And the Answer to your last question:
Yes, Germany did.
This still doesn’t excuse the lack of competition the world seems to spit out compared to one singular country
I mean only Europe can compete physically and economically.
Other regions are either less economically developed (Africa and most of Asia) or also less physically gifted (most of Asia I guess)
And it's not that fair to compare single European countries to the US which has 330+M people
What is the name of the song that plays in the back
2004 rules in NBA hurts everyone once they return to real basketball.
Instead of focusing on rules and styles (judging the nba as a one on one league and fiba as a team basket one which is false in both case) . Why don't we focus on the rosters. Team USA always built their teams as an All Star Team (mostly stars who are not comfortable playing certain roles). Thus no chemistry, no real game philosophy, no automatisms. Meanwhile FIBA Teams are more balanced and most of these guys have played together since they were teenagers. If you mix that with fiba rules like the euro zone defense, where guys can stay in the paint for defend the rim for hours. And attackers are forbidden to stay in the same paint more than 3 seconds. You got a raw deal for NBAers. Specially young ones (last USA TEAM was too young to play old FIBA vets), who have not yet really figure out their nba game. And to whom it is required to figure out another type of basketball. This a perspective of a guy who played mostly european basketball and who lives in Europe.
It is kinda hard to play when you don't have that James Harden Houston whistle like he has in Lakers
The NBA is trying to kill itself with the no travel, bouble dribble calls... defensive 3 seconds... just all the basics of basketball in general. If it wasn't for Jovic, I wouldn't bother even following it anymore. It's sad. I love the sport. Thankfully, the NCAA is still decent, but I'm afraid some of it will bleed down into college.
I’m not surprised. 9 out of the top 10 rebounders in the NBA are not American. The last 5 NBA MVPs were not American. Only one American in the NBA first team in 2023.
These Fiba players are balling out like their life depends on it and get chance to show out against NBA players who are too comfortable and don’t want it bad enough
Fiba basketball just proves what many old head basketball players been saying for over a decade...Modern NBA is trash and they don't eally know nor understand the game of basketball.
Those International teams are simply doing what old school basketball did. Move the ball, fundamentals, get high percentage shots, play good physical defense.
Modern NBA is all about 1 on 1 ISO, drive kick out shoot a 3. And defense and post up play don't exist in modern NBA
Its the lack of talent from team USA. Team USA used to have players like Dwade, Melo, Lebron and Kobe. Now we stuck with a bunch of B and C list players.
Even 2008 and 2012 usa team struggle againts spains, but yeah they won.
That is what the international teams have a brunch of B player...Dennis Schroder and Daniel Theis are the best guys on Germany's Championship team...they not even All Stars in the NBA. Not even top 100 guys.
The USA should need A-list NBA players to defeat B and C list role players in the NBA...At least the guys on Team USA are starters in the NBA
Lack of talent? Do you think any Bucks fan is trading Portis for Bonga? Do the Lakers try everything to replace Reaves with Wagner? The "C team" has more talent than any other team in the tournament. They just don't know how to defend for 40 minutes cohesively
I would watch this video 100% length if the USA actually put serious line-up into the roster 😂
I’m glad they’re calling those travels.
Lack of discipline and also lack of set play skills to play in the half-court without relying on a run-and-gun offense and isolation plays
Don’t underestimate fiba athleticism ....nba critics don’t make this correlation ..
- less chemistry and team play
- less entrenched fundamentals
- not as good or dominant as before against foreign players
- not as used to physical play as before
- less midrange and post skills
- does not send best of the best
Because in the NBA they stopped playing basketball few years ago.
So explain every olympics or explain all the nba talent on the winning team. America != the nba.
@@burrybondz225 can you read?
@@pizzafria52 Can you connect your 2 brain cells ? The best possible USA team would demolish any other team, they just don't care and send their C team, just like European football teams couldn't care less about the Olympics.
Has nothing to do with "the NBA".
No Excuses! Basketball is Basketball - The US team lost to better teams that have better strategies of execution from coaching to plays.
US players don't have the love of the game like international players do. US players are chasing their "Bag"
Not really NBA players but just USA players because of US Iso style ball
lack of fundamentals, nba rules clinging on offense to get more casual fans to watch, really were the reason why nba isnt as fun as it was anymore
they're just trying to build a redeem teem narrartive for the 2024 olympics
0:34 was such a nasty play
NBA doesn't value the role of Centers and Defense. They're all shooting 3's. And thus is the fault of Curry for popularizing offense mote than D with 3 point shootings. That is why most popular centers are foreigners and that is why the USA didn't have a good center. Mostly shooting guards and shooting forwards.
Exposed why grandpa LBJ still plays in the league. They only play offense. Lol
0:25 outrageous travel😂😂 my chin dropped how the hell wasnt that called😂
But Dillon Brooks and Shroder are NBA players and they were stars of the FIBA World Cup. So it’s not NBA players, it’s American NBA player problem. American players are more into highlight reels than fundamentals that’s the American problem. Notice that recent NBA MVPs have been from other countries.
Lets relax out of the top 30 in the nba only maybe 3 are european but the defense, effort, rules is shity
Did reaves dirty in the thumbnail because he was one of the best players in all of FIBA
Spot on analysis and the media in the USA is still not getting it.
Same issue with Australian team - just not big enough
Adding a traditional big like Jaret Allen or Mobley couldve helped them
Nah, you gotta consider that for these European teams it’s literally the game of of their lives with a chance for huuuge exposure and to go up against the best up and coming NBA players. Whereas the USA team just wants to not get injured for the NBA season which would jeopardize their entire career. Which is also another factor, if we sent over our best it wouldn’t even be a contest. But taking off 2 years just to play in both FIBA and the Olympics is completely unreasonable so the best players all go to the Olympics. All the veteran experience of the European players would be cancelled out by the veteran experience of NBA players.
Agree with you: more individual match ups, different rules, different court size, more outside game and has caused the usa to play an almost different sport from fiba, this gives a significant advantage to the europeans team. I would like to see 1vs1; 3vs3 worlds tournaments with the nba stars
I know why... Because most NBA players are so narrow-minded they genuinely believe that an NBA title is bigger than a world title.
They are right too. No one cares about carmelo or take him seriously as a top player. they aren't narrow minded at all, they are trying to build a legacy to stand against the best players of all of history. This isn't like football, america is still too good but as the world gets better medals and world cups would become part of the pieces needed to build a legacy.
I mean they're kinda right since it's the best level. It's just that that mentality isn't present in Europe where the WC is more valued than the Champions league despite being way less of a skilled competition.
But again the gap between WC/Euro and the champions league isn't quite as big as the gap between NBA and International basketball.
Being Narrow minded would be acting like some British players, favorising the Premiere League over the Champions League while they're clearly historically worse than other Europeans teams, being Italian or Spanish ones.
American players used to be able to win AND dominate on talent alone. Nowadays, European teams have caught up and understand that to win, its not all about dunks.
Their style of offense made the americans dangerous (dunks is good). They have a poorly constructed defensive team.
Nah, old school NBA players were very fundamentally sound. They just made their fundamentals look like talent/skill.
Modern NBA players lack fundamentals and IQ of the game. This current NBA is Entertainment Basketball, not real basketball
American C teams vs European A teams. It's like comparing an Olympic football team (mostly only youth allowed) to a WC one, doesn't really make sense, if anything it's a "shame" that the US can still compete without their biggest stars
Hhhaha.luca doncic once said that in international game shots are difficult but in the nba is very easy that is because the rules are different😅😅😅😅..
Most other teams at the World Cup have NBA players too
The NBA is barely a sport now. It's essentially a reality TV show masquerading as competition.
This is fantastic.
5 days later.
They did!
Reaves was not struggling at all so I don’t know why he is in the thumbnail. The main reason is because they send their D-H teams to the World Cup. They do much better in the Olympics where they send their A-C teams
The sent out a C list team out.. if they had sent out the their best players they would’ve won.. literally do it every Olympic cycle by like 20+ points .
really? 118-107 Vs spain in 2008 thats 20+ points?? 107-100 in 2012 thats also 20+ points??? Interesting..... those 2 USA rosters should have beaten spain by 35 points+ easy so why the trouble with Spain and their WHITE PLAYERS??
@@johnnythekid4601what does race have anything to do with it they still won both olympics you mentioned 💀
@@johnnythekid4601Check the olympic record my guy
fiba rule that allows bigs to stay on shaded area for as long as he wants really fcks team usa
No struggle they still do they thang
The all tournament team are all NBA players. The best teams were led by NBA players. Somehow you FIBA stans skip the 2021 Olympics as if it never happened or the 2016 one where the US beat a stacked Serbia by 30 in the finals. With no real centers playing they switched and helped and got cooked from 3. They were badly coached. That's all there was to it. They all played NCAA basketball which is a bit closer to the FIBA court geometry and paint defense. Enjoy the celebration and lets meet in August 2024
Those who were paying attention realize there are NBA players on all the teams