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- čas přidán 4. 04. 2024
- That's right - physicality on defense and hand-checking are back in the NBA. Adam Silver decided offenses were way overpowered and decided to instruct the referees to not call fouls anymore after the All-Star break. In this video, BasketNews' Augustas Suliauskas analyzes how FIBA-like rules are affecting NBA players & why it is actually great for the league and the players themselves.
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Man, let me just say something. You make really good videos and your takes on basketball comparing the NBA and Euroleague are really good!
Keep the content coming! Cheers 👍
Love the new changes. It will make games more competitive. Since some players are being drafted from Europe and some American players end up in Europe, it would be nice to see NBA and EuroLeague closer resemble each other in terms of rules and officiating. This move by the NBA means they have moved on from the Steph Curry era and I'm glad to see that. Heck, if these changes didn't happen we would have eventually witnessed women like Caitlin Clark and Sabrina Ionescu compete and dominate in the NBA 😅. That would have been the final nail in the coffin to bring down the NBA altogether. I'm glad Adam Silver saw the writing on the wall and made the necessary changes.
Also this will put an end to flopping.
They need to get rid of the 3-second defensive violation just like fiba
Now, they need to call the constant travelling and carrying of the ball.
NBA should adopt complete FIBA rules because not being able to defend in the NBA is a disgrace
I think slight adjustments like this one happening right now might actually be enough. Of course, that has to include eliminating the no 3-second defensive rule
That will never happen, cause the "superstars" will cry, and it will all go back to what it was before
one rule i dont want them to take is the ability to hit ball once it hits the rim, cause watching the ball bounce wondering if it will go in is iconic in basketball
The biggest problem is that until Allstar, there were one set of rules, now some other, and when the play off starts, who knows what... Is that normal in the "best basketball league in the world"?
No need to adopt all of them, just cancel the defensive 3 second rule and you'll reduce the amount of points by a huge amount.
Having said that, the second biggest problem of the NBA beside bad defence is too much 3pt shooting, and this rule will just make the problem bigger.
These changes are surely for the better. I hope they will start calling traveling and carying the ball soon.
Yep then we’ll see if these guys are “so much better offensively” than previous eras.
Every single player carries. It's out of hand.
@@MaximusR93they obviously are, considering they can all shoot
Yes, a lot of the time it's not even for benefit. Just habit. Ja Morant is the worst offender
Nuh 3pt shooting percentage remained the same they just shoot more
Nobody wants the players suplex each other like in the Pistons era, but defenders shouldn't be affraid to play close defense with a couple of unintentional bumps.
Exactly, all nba players got used to no resistance
@@nickodar5780 Double standards is what kills the sense of competition. When certain players got all calls they wished, nobody dared to really play defense on them. And here they were, monsters of inflated stats in regular season thinking they were better than stars of the physical era.
I want suplexes
No one likes watching people trying to sell fouls. Where is the will to score instead of selling a foul?
Exactly!
man its not only the fouls, my eyes are in pain everytime i watch an nba game. You can see players walking in front of the referees without getting called for travelling. Its ridiculous
We gotta get them to call moving screens too
Like Trae Young in this video?
basketball has gotten really really loose over the last decade. would be nice to see them tighten it up.
Good. How the sport was meant to be played. It's not a free throw shooting contest.
Now it's time to call travelling on many of the stepbacks, sidesteps, and all that bullshit. Half of those are travelling.
And carrying, please.
@@AverageGuy28it’s not look at Jxmmy high roller video on it. The rules are just very specific and the players know how to abuse them
NBA is supposedly top tier competition, but their rules is made for an amateur pick-up game since 2004-05, when the NBA decided to change the rules because teams can't score against the Spurs and Pistons, and their new generation of stars are throwing bricks
Too bad this doesn't seem to apply for certain teams *cough* Lakers *cough*
They don’t need it either. So much damn talent on that roster. But the league needs ratings to justify this new tv deal.
Yea they lead the NBA by far in FT rate
@sammydray5919 Preach 🙏
They lead the league in free throws and still are a 9th seed. They have like 300 more attempts than the second leading team. Embarrassing how hard the NBA is trying to get them into the play-in.
@@alfredoladino9838Using totals for the agenda push instead of per game numbers isn't slick. The Lakers average the 3rd most FT attempts per game behind the Bucks (2) and the Magic (1). Why is that? Because the Magic and the Lakers are the teams that shoot the fewest 3s in the whole NBA. They take the most shots inside the paint, thereby drawing the most fouls.
It's absolutely a good thing. Games are much more interesting when they're closer and allowing a physical game lets the game remain closer for longer. Everyone assumes higher scoring = more exciting, but if a big chunk of the scoring comes from free throws and all the scoring leads to a 20+ point game in the 3rd quarter...it's just not good for fan interest or engagement. Let them play the game the way it was intended instead of from a standstill at a line on the floor.
To be fair... FTA were never the real problem. The lowest FTA per game seasons were ALL after 2010. All of them!
As a comparison. In MJ's time the average FTA per season were between 27 and 30 FTA per game... In the 2020's its about 22-23. Same was true for fouls overall. 25 fouls per game in the 80's, 22.5 in the 90's, 19.7 so far in the 2020's
The problem was allways the missing physicality. Now offenses have to adjust and either play through contact, or (like back in the day), force defenses to actually foul you to get to the line.
I noticed the change some time ago and it’s hilarious the NBA did not warn players and coaches about it.
It's brilliant. Loving the chaos and the "What's going on!" looks.
oh nba finaly playing basketball
Embid stepped back on the Court and the refs said the Circus is back in town 😂
Watching Embid play angers me more than it used anger me when James Harden was in Huston
Dude averaging double figure in FT is crazy..other people can't even got double digit scoring normally 😅😅
Except for the lakers. Check the statistics when Lakers are behind. The foul calls they receive go up. They are by far the highest foul shooting team in the league. And they are not a team that drives a lot.
It's rigged by the refs / league
I totally agree. When a ball handler initiate the contact whether it is bumping into defender or slow down/stop so the trailing defender bumps into him, that is not a foul.
good! im sure some plays that were fouls will go unoiticed but until players stop "looking" for the whistle to get them out of trouble this is what needs to be done
exactly
I applaud Silver for doing what he thinks is best for the longevity and health of the game. The fact that he’s willing to think outside box and is fearless enough to purse it? NBA is blessed.
Unless youre lechina and the lakers
They need Ledaddy to still wanna play when Leson comes in the league 😉
Great video - I had wondered but hadn't made the connection - thanks
thanks for the comment!
Calling a foul when the defender is just standing there with his arms raised is crazy
Finally! Problem with NBA are all these fouls called with no disadvantage for the offensive player, too many free throws and fouls being called when the defender doesn´t do anything wrong but the offensive player creates all the contact and then "flops" when he feels the hand of the defender. It will be fun watching the playoffs.
This is great! I was disgusted by how the All-Star Game was played. A local pick-up game was more entertaining tbh.
I think it's better in this way, improving the possibility to defend more phisycal.
This, and also increasing the calls for carrying ball, travels and moving screens will surely improve NBA game in general also for next matches of Team USA vs the other National FIBA teams.
I think this improve BasketBall Game in general ..... may be NBA(which still has the best players and the best athletes ) has forgotten this a little in the last years .... .
I want to see FIBA rebound rules too.
Allow players to deflect the ball off the rim
If the US wants to become competitive again in the basketball scene it HAS to adapt the FIBA/Eurobasket approach of being more aggressive and cooperative with each other without the Micky Mouse type of fouls.
The USA doesn’t care about fiba or being competitive on an international level
American sports don't care about competitiveness or beauty of game, they only care about the market and $$
@@Islam.is.the.truth.. by US you mean NBA? NBA cares #1 about ratings
I still remember times when proactively bumping or jumping into a defender, on your way to the basket would get you an offensive foul. I wish that they go back calling traveling properly and ban zone defense. Also, allow the defenders to put hands on the offensive players. Essentially, late 80 to early 90s were the peak years in terms on NBA game evolution. There was balance between defense and offense.
the game needs to be more balanced.
Additionally the referees should start counting the steps, the players make while holding the ball. Ok, the dunk looks not that powerful and it is quite embarrassing for the player, but the rules don't allow that traveling.
Pretty insane that the Celtics have a 127.5 offensive rating post All Star break even with these changes in officiating. And it's not like they're getting favorable whistles, they're 25th in the NBA in FTA per game in that time.
yeah Boston are on a crazy run. but I checked and they had the easiest schedule post all-star. still impressive though
I agree, but they will be exposed in the playoffs by a team with bigs, probably Cavs or Magic in the second round
Insane shooting Numbers... if you bomb 41% from 3 as a team while taking 42.5 3PA, you dont need FT's. Btw, the Boston ORtg since the Allstar break is 121. Not sure where the 127 comes from...
90's basketball, finally!
THE REAL SPORT
not even close to 90s, cmon. do you remember the spacing? lol
Any thoughts on "we're done with the 90s" takes?@@AugustasSuliauskas
Lowest scoring per game in the modern NBA was exactly 20 years ago when handcheck was legal with zone defense (3 second defense exception).
I love the changes I just find it strange to have them put in place in the middle of a season, it seems super inconsistent looking at the whole picture.
i think the offenses were just too much to wait for the end of the season. or as i said, Silver just wants to do the AB test to have data on both
Great Video, these Changes are at least a good Start.
thank you
I do realize that post all star break, the scores have been hover around the 95-110 range too.
finally no more boring games that ends in score like 140-135
Maybe they try to prepare their top players for the olympics, so that they do not suffer the same fate as in mundobasket.
Nice job.I didn't watch much of this basketball, but adding more physicallity definitely make a game more interesting to watch.
thanks!
During this transition you will begin to see just how many players were still flopping for contact calls. Exactly what the game needs.
Good vid and I agree with your main point, but some of those cheap fouls are still correct calls. I've reffed semi-pro in Europe.
Except the Lakers
I don't hear you complaining about the Magic or the Bucks who attempt more FTs per game 🤨. Do you think the NBA is rigging things for the magic? lol
@@shepardice3775 you are right.
Except the Lakers ,magic and the bucks
I love these changes!!! Keep it going!
It’s funny because when Gilbert said the only way to fix the NBA was to get rid of the Europeans. In my opinion the only way to fix the NBA is to have refs from Euroleague or a from the ACB. Swap them , with USA refs. And I guarantee you the NBA will be competitive again.
Silver will have them favor the Lakers, just like Stern did. Tim Donahee
It’s crazy he said that when guys like Harden really took a lot of joy out of watching basketball with his blatant foul baiting, 4 step step back, and NO DEFENSE. He was the worst offender but there were many others that also contributed to this mentality.
I think a lot of the Euros (Giannis included because a lot of American players roasted him for no “skill”) saved the game. They may not take the allstar game seriously but every real game they play the right way.
racist dudes opinion dont matter
Gilbert Arenas is a fool and should get less attention
embiid still gets a lot of fts, but now some players know how it feels to be jokić🤷🏻♂️
Of course it's good, the offense initiates the contact that is not a foul. Problem is they are still not calling carrying, charging when they run through the defender lowering shoulder or shouldering, illegal screens not giving space of one step, moving screens/picks, traveling since they are letting them chose when to establish pivot foot regardless of rules, self passing when they dribble the ball forward to an area and go get it which is a self pass that is illegal, offensive three seconds, just so many things that make it not real basketball anymore.
Love the implied changes. Was beginning to wonder if the game would devolve into fast ball handlers simply driving into defenders. These foul calls were ruining the game.
Agreed, great to see these changes. Wondering if they are thinking about something more, too
Lol, it was the run of everyone holdin up 60 and 70 like Wilt for like 3 weeks straight. It did make those numbers seem less valuable when it was happening every other night.
Changing the rule interpretations in favor of the defense was a necessity. Not telling anyone was an idiocy.
Games are stopping too much, very frustrating. I think it is better to allow some contact.
I think this is where we have to do something with those reviews. Too many reviewable plays, too early in the game. It's good to have technology but limiting it might actually improve the end result
one of the many reasons ive stopped watching the nba this year. its unbearable
I want to see how they drive with a defender on their side. Like in 2000s, you see how they can drive event though someone is on their side is better.
Its a good thing that fouls are no longer called on players that just drive into defenders and wait for the foul call. Ive started following NBA again since the start of last season and this was 1 of the things I just did not understand.
As well as not calling foul for slight contact before the shot the nba should get rid of the 3-sexond rule and I feel like I see alot kf moving screens in the nba unless i dont understand the rule but idk
I like how there was a lot of Brunson clips as if he’s struggling with this new officiating he seems like he is still playing well from a non Knick’s fan pov
yeah I took a lot of Brunson clips but overall he's fine - playing at the same level, it's just that a lot the examples were the most clear from him. not a knock on him though, has been playing awesome the whole season, with or without getting calls
The physicality of needed.
The NBA needs drama. It needs wars, it needs rivalries.
Good start imho. Defense should be rewarded, not punished. Now we need traveling being called and suddenly we are back in action.
Tbh what I would do alongside allowing a more physical game is remove the 3 second violation and allow a Big guy to stay parked bellow the Rim.
This would kill small ball line-ups and decrease the pace a whole lot even if the rules that do not allow hand checking are kept the same.
The pace isnt the problem. Its even lower then in the 80's. Only the 90's, 2000's and 2010's were lower by like 5-10%.
That's the best change NBA made in years. It's all about balance and being able to defend skillfully. Not beating everyone up but not being afraid to defend at the same time.
Can you imagine whoever has insider information that Adam Silver wants to lower the nba scoring probably made a killing betting the under after the all-star break.
I'm happy that they stopped favoring the lightweights in the collision of the games because for while now the small players are taking advantage of collisions that they initiated.
It’s about time it’s not a foul to breathe on a guy. I vividly remember Westbrook going up for a 3, kicking the defender on purpose, and being given 3 free throws
Superstars that need the foul baiting to score like Embiid and Giannis literally made some games unwatchable, and there's Curry who'd drive to the basket full speed 15 times in one game and shoot 6 free throws as Embiid would shoot 20 on some nights
Loving these calls
🙏🙏🙏🙏 I'm a child of the 70's and 80's 👍👍👍 I mean, don't want that violence back, but enough is enough.
This is the best thing that could happen as all these cheap fouls were my main complaint (yes even worse than the travels). There was nothing wrong with the rules, the main problem was they were not being enforced. Now finally most of them are. On to a fantastic playoffs season!
I wonder if the bottom ft teams before this got more wins since this and vice versa with the highest ft teams
Completely adopt FIBA rules including no defense 3 seconds (Spacing is extremely good in the NBA) and call more travels
As an NBA fan from the late 80s, 90s and early 2000s I found damn near every example you showed, to me were not fouls. Maybe that's why I haven't watched since the mid 2000s, also maybe the traveling no calls, oh and maybe the carrying no calls. Lol
Maybe I will consider watching an nba game again for the first time in a few years…if this continues. I will probably wait till midway through next season to see if this trend really holds.
Hmm, I feel like the adjustment should not necessarily be on physicality of contact, but since offenses got really good through movement, allow defenses more freedom of movement as well.
I wouldn't like hand checking to come back but these changes make this year's playoffs amazing
Jordan and Kobe were the best at finishing at the rim with contact and didn’t cry about foul calls.. Says enough about these spoiled superstar players of today
It's about time! Notice, most of these "fouls"are in one on one situations. That doesn't happen when the ball moves. Promote team play, and some toughness, and viewership will go back up.
NBA is finally great again. Thank you Adam Silver for fixing the big mistake you made. Respect.
Only if we can bring back hand checking and bring back the 90s nostalgia
FIBA rules should be standard all over the world
Yeah for the basketball world bringing back defense is great, however, the reason NBA allowed massive amounts of scoring is because since MJ, the NBA audience have dwindled and today it seems only the basketball world watches basketball. So NBA thought we need more "MJ"s (basically more scoring) to attract more audience. Even with Lebron being GOAT status has not expanded the audience past those who ususally watch basketball. Hence the ridiculous amount of scoring which annoyed the basketball world but it didnt attract more audience . The only reason media companies like Disney (via ESPN) and CBS (via Paramount) dump tons of cash on NBA and other sports is because they are losing out to the streaming media companies like Netflix, so the only cash cow revenue they can get is "live entertainment" ie sports. But NBA getting tons of money is not indication that the audience has expanded, it is result of internal media industry problems.
You bring up a good point sports has leverage because TV is dying. But TV is going to die and when it does that leverage will die right along with it.
Amazing decision, reminds me of the Dennis Rodman days, or the dirty pistons trying to deal with Jordan in his prime. Physical well earned points.
What I would like to see is 1-16 nba playoff tournament.
I love the changes. I say this as a Mavs fan with Luka who definitely tries to draw contact a lot. The game is less fun to watch when we have to stop every minute to watch a guy shoot free throws. It's kind of insufferable to watch the ball handler intentionally shoulder into a defender that's nowhere near them and flop around. I'd rather see players try to make the darn shot.
Yanis runs into players regularly. The issue isn't fixed by not calling fouls. The refs should call the proper foul. Yanis for example should be called for charging at least 10 times per game. Which would eliminate him from playing the rest of the game. Just call the charge. Too easy.
With an attacker charging into a planted defender and a defensive foul getting called, I often thought am I blind or are they crazy? Or am I crazy?
Offensive fouls should have the same sensitivity as defensive fouls.
Fouls in the act of shooting I think should exclude those where the arms pump for the shot after the foul is committed. Call the foul, but no and 1 or fts.
American players are pampered. They get more physical in the rec league than the actual game that pays them millions.
Watching Alba vs villerbaune has become more entertaining so nba needs to do even more
This is a good change..foul baiting is making the game boring.. nobody wants to play hard defense anymore if every single bumps is called for fouls
When the offensive player initiates contact it should not be a foul on the defense. As long as D is playing towards the ball and hands are vertical it should not be a foul.
It's not about scoring. It's about the flow of the game and allowing defenders to actually play
They need to do something to make 3 point shots more contested
Chang the rules to compliment the international game and participate in the champions League ...or whatever the basketball version they have for it
these new rules are greattttttttt
lovin' it
i agree they should keep the fiba like rules so we play better against international teams
It makes it quite hard to bet on NBA when the scores are so crazy
Adam Silver is growing a pair apparently. It was about time
Finally the players will have to pass into the post & slow the game down now, last decade or so it’s been like 2K when you up the game speed no one who grew up playing ball late 90s & 2000s really enjoyed watching the NBA I actually been tuned into international play WAYYY more the past couple of years this is a great move
Now if they start calling on travelling and carrying we just might have our sport back.
Good. Maybe, in a few years, when they actually play ball this way for long enough for me to believe it, I'll start watching again.
Now people need to start looking more into the Lakers FT rate vs the league.
My take is they're not just trying to lower the scoring, they're also preparing the americans for the Olympics. Getting ready for the Fiba physicality.
They should just scrap travelling also, maybe only call if if someone goes above 4 steps because WOW.
Finally!
Travels next please, Mr. Comissioner.
Calling for carrying calls may stretch it a bit, tho. That would devalue some playstyles seriously.
Hell yeah the game needs this change. 100% Its getting unbearable to watch.
One thing though is illegal moving screens should be called harsher upon. I notice lot of top players get free because of the second screen in for an example three screen set route is overlooked and that's usually where the player creates that separation and on the last screen action the defender is a half step behind to do anything.
this changes are great