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One of the best reviewers out there, telling us the reality that 8GB is not enough instead of excusing Apple’s absurd decision and saying it’s “enough”.
WIth M3 starting with 8 GB baseline basically even all Apple shills criticized or downright mocked the idea.
I agree. The claim that it's equivalent to 16GB in a Windows laptop doesn't seem right. RAM is definitely more efficient with these M chips, but efficiency is not the same as capacity.
If you're using the M3 and your workload is light enough to not need 8GB, just get the Air.
Tbf, I have M1 MacBook Air base model. The 8GB Ram is good for working on one app at a time. Till now I didn’t face any problems working on FCP, Logic Pro, OBS, and other apps… once I start using multiple apps at once I may get a notification that I have to close one app.
@@OthMar39 My friend who is not in tech told me that his laptop starts slowing down once he opens a few chrome tabs and MS office. He also does occasional gaming for fun and has seen noticeable lags. So clearly 8GB RAM isn't enough even for normal users. Stop justifying 8GB RAM in 2024 on a $1000+ laptop, period.
They'll play this game it's ridiculous I don't care whether you like Mac or Windows or Linux but the bare minimal should be 16 gigs dual Channel no exceptions
I agree. Just an FYI DDR5 single stick is dual channel, so that is less of an issue than it was in the DDR4 days
I have been around since the start of PCs. And basically used 8GB over the last 40 years. And have no issues at all. I know many people that use only 8 GB and are fine. We are not all in the CZcams bubble that uses Pro apps. I don't even think I use an app that would stretch a MacBook Air. It is hard for me to accept your conclusion that we should start at a higher config and obviously a higher price as that would mean I would have to pay extra like I would do in Windows land and that is unfair on someone like me that only needs base spec but love a premium device as I keep my laptops for 7 to 10 years and I'm willing to pay extra for quality.
@@andyH_England Sure, if you run one application at a time and literally don't use any professional apps, then you MAY be able to get away with 8 GB for now. But for $1100? Come the hell on!
@@cameronbosch1213 the surface laptop 6 just released by Microsoft is also priced the same and also cost £200 a pop for every upgrade. So when Microsoft the founder of Windows also follows this path then we have to ask why the two biggest companies in the world have agreed? Maybe they know more than we do.
@@andyH_England while that may be true. My aim at this channel is to help people get the best deal on the best laptop for their use case. Buying a laptop for over $1k with 8g of soldered memory and 256g of soldered storage is not acceptable
I just upgraded from my 2020 M1 13" Pro 16GB / 1TB SSD to a M3 PRO 14" 18GB / 1TB, and I couldn't be more pleased! I do software development and photography professionally, and honestly my fav feature is the SD card port. I use it everyday and it's just so nice that when I need it, I don't have to think about where I put the dongle. Oh and the performance / screen is crazy. What a worthwhile upgrade! Hoping to keep this for at least 4 years like I did with my M1 13.
Thank you for trying to edit video on it that's what I've been looking for! We got the 15 with 16GB RAM I've only tried very light video editing in premiere rush. Worked fine but i plan on getting into more complex work flows
Thanks Josh!, I waited for the new air 5 M3 to come out before buying, then I waited for you to do your thing before I put my money out, your the only guy I trust to give me not only the whole story and put in perspective, keep up the great work!
Your review is so good and concise I had all the info I needed on minute 3 and didn’t need to stay for the rest of the video. Hard past on this shiny slick looking box😂
Great work!
the pace of your content gives the aura of confidence and credibility. keep it up.👍
Quickly becoming the most useful laptop review channel. Great work Josh!
Thanks Kevin
@@JustJoshTech Unlike most CZcams reviewers, you actually seem to understand the technology behind the device, & not just see the surface level detail. I'm tempted to buy the new Spectre, but i'm holding off for the reviews of the new range of SD powered laptops.
Thanks a ton!
Thanks for the video.
Superb review 👍🏻 that' is what I was looking for
Good honest advice!
I gave in and went back to Windows after a decade using Macs. I do a lot of data analysis and needed multiple external screens for spreadsheets but not a lot of power.
I just could not justify the price of a MacBook Pro for my use case, so I got a Lenovo yoga 6 with 16GB RAM on sale for $600. And it has been quite nice actually!
I agree this is great value for money. Only weak point is max screen brightness but otherwise it feels quite premium.
Hopefully Snapdragon Elite and other ARM based chips from AMD and Intel are going to have comparable battery life and power/wattage than Apple silicon, we can happily ignore Apple once and for all.
Superb review!
Thank you
I have been on a youtube binge for information on these M3 Macbook Airs (at the spec you recommend), trying my hardest to find answers.
I want to use one as a portable workstation and for what i guess some would call "complex" video editing, but now I'm very unsure, and you may have just convinced me to look at the Macbook Pro lineup instead. Im not very wealthy, but i do like the continuity and quality of these systems, so it may be worth it overall! It doesnt help that I'm also a novice, only relying on my knowledge from a few years using the latest iMacs and Adobe CS5 in high-school, and some self teaching in Filmora with my current rtx 3070 powered gaming desktop.
Been Waiting for Josh's opinion of the new Macbook's and safe to say was totally worth it.
I'm glad we could deliver
If you're comfortable with opening the machine and add a 1mm layer of thermal pad on the CPU that makes contact with the bottom case then you don't need the base 14" Macbook pro, as long as you don't care much about the screen and the ports. I would do that and of course I will upgrade the Macbook airs ram and storage even if it's very expensive, it would be still cheaper than specking up the 14" Macbook pro (with the base M3 chip), the best thing to do as long as you don't come from a pro, max or Ultra M chip, it should be perfectly fine for content creation, just upgrade the ram to 16gb and the GPU to 10 core (storage is optional since it doesn't make a difference performance wise) it will get the job done.
best reviewer for sure, dishing out info like no other. These videos are so informative and to the point. I recently made a big decision to ditch my 16pro for the 15 air, one big reason being the weight. I plan to travel a lot later this year and the lighter chassis brings so many benefits. Tried the 14pro but unfortunatly the screen real estate is simply not on par with the 16/15. So 15 air is my only choice. I do wish it has more ports though. I do mobile dev and windows laptop simply wouldn't cut it since they cannot run Xcode haha.
Wish Xcode could be run in Windows. I would be sooo happy.
Those 48GB MBPs are so darn expensive
i cant wait to see the first pc powered by the snapdragon x
Snapdragon can’t even make good phone chips 😂😂😂
YES
Will only have taken PC manufacurers half a decade to catch up to Apple's level of CPU efficiency 😂
Lol, your braincell needs abit of updating on the window side, bro. Just look at Ryzen latest power efficiency, or josh latest laptop review showing those efficiency. They are almost identical to those M3 chip.
But but but Mac battery is a lot longerrrrr you might ask? Arm vs x86 architecture, bro. Arm can't run Cad application without lagging on their M1 chip while windows can.
And if you're talking about Arm cpu, take a look at Galaxy s22 pro vs iphone 15 pro. The S22 destroys iphone in term of continuous runs, power efficiency and heat management.
And if you look at the comment section, apple fanboys are complaining that they won't ever run that much of a heavy load to justify their little reasons for buying an iphone.
Great video once again! Im definetely looking for 16/32GB RAM in a laptop.
Oh, and is there a video coming on the new Samsung book4 series by any chance? :)
Josh can you please make a video about your workout routine?
It’s so nice seeing an honest Mac review.
This was an excellently explained video! Your comparison to the MacBook pros and description of it was really fantastic! Definitely agree with May things you said and learnt things too!
Silly- but do you think MacBook pros last longer? Just seem to be hardier(?) or something? I’ve always had pros and they last me many years ( still using a 2015 15” pro! 🫣 love it!)
@@paigeme886 You asked a question and then answered it yourself while contradicting your original opinion. Were you high?
@@dwight.shrute no, are you high? I didn’t ask a question and then answer it.
I made a statement, then below it I asked a question - sometimes I’m unable to edit my comments on CZcams if I’m on my iPhone so i just comment below it.
Perhaps I should have just made a completely different comment but still… not sure why you thought i answered my own question when my first comment wasn’t a question or an answer to anything. And he didnt address my question in the video.
Im usually on my phone at night watching these so if my wording isn’t perfect for you, my sincere apologies- I hope you get a life
@@paigeme886 You need a life bro, seriously and sincerely requested.
@@dwight.shrute 😂 you are the one that needs a life… you initially stupidly replied to a strangers comment on CZcams in an attempt to put them down & somehow lift your dumbass ego up 🙃my guess is that reading and replying to strangers on CZcams is a habit of yours. Be nice and get some manners.
I just got the new 15” McBook air 16gb and I am loving it, despite the lack of ProMotion (120hz) and other screen specs.
Good points.
So first of all:
Thanks for your videos. I'm currently looking for a replacement for my 2015 MBP and your videos seem the most trustworthy!
One comment on the recommended Thinkpad though: I got this thing as a worklaptop from my employer. That thing annoys me so much. As soon as I just look at it, the fans turn up full blast. I can't even do the simplest tasks on it without the fans being extremely loud. It's really annoying. I previously had a Yoga X1 from 2017. Less performance, yes. But at least that thing was quiet.
Which ThinkPad? The X1 Carbon? Normally they are extremely quiet. Is it a T series you have?
@@JustJoshTech
On the back of my device it just says ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 11 (Type Number: 21HM-S3PU00, if you know what to do with it - searchin in the internet leads to a "T"). It really is a disaster in terms of noise. I've had the device for a week and almost miss its predecessor.
To the round: I know the MacBook Pro 14 with M3, 16/512 is not often recommended. I actually wanted to order the Air (same specs), but now I'm a bit unsure whether the fanless design could be a problem. My most intensive tasks: Parallels + Magic The Gatering Online and Magic Arena (native Mac OS). Does anyone here have any experience with this? Expect of this, just general surfing/browsing and music edition 2 times a year. Pro costs 1800 in this configuration, the Air 1400 (Europe). 400 more for just Promotion wouldt be worth it, but the missing fan on the Air confusses me... M3 Pro is sadly around 2100.
5:13 I've seen some other channels record screens at slow-mo speeds to show the difference in screen refresh rate since even if you film at 60p (looks like you record at 24p?) you can't see the difference because 60 fps is the max supported frame rate on CZcams.
Hi Josh, how does the HP pavilion plus 14 Ryzon 7 perform for coding? I've got one on the way.
I bought the macbook air M3 15.3 with 16gb of memory and 512 gb of storage. I do some light video editing and it performs very well. However, I feel that if my tasks were more intensive, the pro 14 would be the right choice. I payed 1700 dollars for mine with a dongle for extra ports and apple care. Very happy with the laptop.
Did u guys put a screen protector?
Don't need to buy a laptop right now (rocking a 14 inch m1pro mbp refurbished for1800€ last year from apple themselves (taking out taxes and using freedom currency it translates to around 1550$)), but this channel is absolutely amazing! Calling out apple bs decision with the M3 lineup, but at the same time acknowledging the benefit of quiter, colder systems with longer battery instead of just looking at how high the GPU score is and recomending gaming laptops to everyone. Keep it up!
Best laptop review channel. Period.
Great work. Thank you.
I am getting the MacBook Pro 14, some people may say, 14 inch is small, reality is 99% of the time I will use it with an external Monitor.
Are you planning on reviewing Samsung Galaxy Book4? They seem to be equivalent to Spectre and Carbon. Bought one recently, high pitch of the fan is a little bit annoying otherwise is a good laptop
I think the main problem with the M3 MBA is that if you want to do anything demanding on it, you're better off with a MacBook Pro, particularly if you want to upgrade RAM or storage. However, if you're not looking to do anything demanding you can just as easily get by with an M1 or M2 MBA.
Hey Josh I just wanted to ask that should I get apple care while buying the laptop or not? And what would be the advantages of buying it?
Just thought of how I got an Lenovo IdeaPad 5 Pro 16" with 7840hs, 512fb storage and 32 gb of ram + 120hz 350nits 2k ips panel for 780€. If power lowered to max 15 watts the fans are dead silent too and u don't have to worry about anything ram related and still have the ability to go up to 65w plugged in to get around 920 score in cb24.
Over 200€ less for more performance and enough ram to edit photos or videos (only fhd otherwise performance isn't enough) even with some heavy edits.
And the battery life is quiet good too. Simply love it :)
Hey josh, your very helpful website is always down
I got the 8gig one and use it for video editing and runs fine.
Joker.
I agree with this completely i have the macbook air m1 and for years is been a pain to use to edit 4k videos, unless i do s very simple edit of one clip where i have to just cut the sequences.But as soon as you put color grading 4k 10 bit and some even light effects and transitions the machine is a pain to use.Not even mentioning the ssd that for video editing is unusuable in the long term and you have to use sn external ssd card which slows down the process even more.I am never buying a macbook ever again not even the pro as the price for me is not justifiable
I’m still rocking with my windows Acer predator triton 300 se 12th gen i7 14” 165hz screen 16gb ram 512 ssd and a rtx 3060 for 899 from Best Buy.
What's the window's equivalent laptop for Macbook pro Max.
Hi what ThinkPad is best for programmers beside x1 car on?
Can you review the new Legion 7i which replaces the legion slim 7? Thanks mate!
how is this channel not at 1 million subs already?
Speaking of Zenbook - I have 410UA with 7th gen i3, 8 GB of RAM (one slot upgradeable! ), TWO SATA SSDs ( m2 and normal) running 2nd replacement battery. Yeah, age shows, but it is quiet, surprisingly snappy, IPS display is still VERY nice and matte (!). I'd love to get 15" MBA but ffs value proposition is terrible.
I spent a good month seriously considering switching to Mac and all apple eco system. Luckily my budget was ONLY 3000.00 lol.
I just got my M3 Air with 16/512GB, absolutely in love with it. I guess no one with common sense would buy the base model. 8GB in 2024 is hilarious
True. But $400 is just way way too much, I mean how on earth Apple gets away with such practices ?
@@dwight.shrute honestly...I've been a windows user my entire life (not counting iPads and macs at work) and I eventually switched to macbook because I could no longer endure the crappy windows updates, jet engine style fan noises, heating and the unreliability of the system in general. After trying out ridiculously expensive gaming laptops, ultra portable ones and military types, I still was frustrated with every single one of them. Apple ecosystems are simply reliable and robust, and better spend money on something reliable than replacing your laptops yearly as random updates eat your nerves.
If you read the review for the M3 Air, there is no difference between the M1 if you are using the laptop for basic use which is probably 80 percent of the users. I would go with the PRO for heavy intensive work, Best Buy/B&H sometimes have the PRO on sale for 1599 which is 100 dollars more than the full spec M3. Air is fanless and the machine will throttle performance while the PRO has a fan.
I wanted this configuration of MBA, but after watching these videos, I now want an M3 MBP pro 18gb. I'm a novice video editor and I need a machine that can do whatever comes to mind as i build up my skills, as I'm not a "one or two layers with minimal VFX effects" type of guy, apparently lol
thank you for mentioning the poor display of the macs. I got tricked into buying a new air, had to send it back as I am so used to more color accurate and faster screens, my eyes started bleeding instantly when opened it.
On my experience the air keyboard is more comfortable than the pros because it's lower, felt that after typing for hours.
What about the new GoFetch vulnerability baked into the chips? This vulnerability prevented me now from buying a new M3 Air.
My ten year old Air still browses etc absolutely fine, no need to spend a grand just for that.
I got a 15 inch MacBook Air M2 with one terabyte storage and 16 GB ram for 1500 which I think is a great deal. MacBooks can be great values of their on sale.
Yes, a family member got 24GB/512GB MB Air M2 13-inch for £1200! It was secondhand.
and Space Grey vs Silver. Those of you that thought first that keyboard on Silver would be too distracting from the screen: what do you think now after usage?
Outstanding video, as always, mate! I traded in my M1 Air for the 13" M3 Air (16GB/1TB). I love the portability of the smaller Air. My main computer for work/fun is my desktop PC (14700/4080), so an MBP is some serious overkill -- love that miniLED screen, tho.
If you had the money to go with 16GB + 1 TB M3 MBA, you made a huge mistake tbh. You should have gone with 14 inch M3 Pro MBP, way better laptop with slightly increased weight and nearly similar size.
@@dwight.shrute The huge mistake would’ve been spending hundreds more $$ for a bigger, heavier, more expensive laptop that’s built for serious video production and using it for nothing more than Word and Photoshop.
@@MadMaxx.1977 If you need nothing more than word and photoshop, why on earth did you spend $200 for 16GB RAM upgrade and $400 for SSD upgrade, are you real?
@@dwight.shrute Because that's what I wanted and my total cost was $700 with the M1 Air trade in.
@@MadMaxx.1977 it's good that you wanted to waste your money by purchasing an inferior product.
I won't go to M3 MacBook Pro, let's just stick to M2 MacBook Pro still available in a lot of stores. That one at $1500-1600 offers similar if not more RAM, far far better processor and unmatched performance. 14inch MBP is just very slightly bigger than 13 inch MBA, and weight difference is hardly noticeable if you carry it in a bag pack.
You got a far inferior device for the money, no matter how much you justify using a much weaker MBA (when compared to MBP) with bumped up specs.
My m1 8gb is amazing really not an issue for a lot use cases, get a pro one for non casual use
So I've been a PC guy for 40 years. I've worked professionally in the industry. I never used Apple. Due to work, I was forced to use a Macbook air for 3 years. I also had a premium 4k touchscreen dell laptop. I never used the Dell, it's slower, clunkier, bigger, battery dies quickly (despite it being a $2500 laptop).
So now 4 years later, I want a new laptop. I got the macbook air m3. You mention the price for the hardware as an issue. The VALUE proposition isn't about the hardware value--it's about the experience of the system. No crashes, lightning fast, incredibly simple, and MacOS which is just undeniably superior to any awful bloated windows system.
You're paying for the experience, not the hardware--and that's what makes it most vaulable.
Maybe I missed it but you failed to note that the 14" Pro base model doesn't have an M3 Pro processor but a normal M3, it does have a better screen, more ports and a fan so a little better but not necessarily a "pro" IMHO. We have multiple Pros in the family but got a 13" Air with 16/512 and it's quite amazing for everything we purchased it to do. Definitely more impressed than I thought. I would not get one with 8GB or 256, that is simply not enough IMHO. Luckily we found it for $200 off which is a decent price.
I love to se your review on Z series from Lenovo. I heard there AMD clips are great in battery life..love to see them stack against Macbooks
Great content sir,
I have seen some real life battery test of MacBook Air m2 on CZcams and it drops 26% BATTERY in MacBook Air 15" and 29% BATTERY in MacBook Air 13" after 3 hours of online video streaming.
I also did same test in my GalaxyBook4 Pro 14" and i got 11 hours of BATTERY LIFE in balanced Mode and Optimised mode from Samsung setting. 27% drop after every three hours which is exactly same as MacBook Air. OLED displays consume more battery than ips Icd.
I got galaxy book 4 pro for ₹108490 imcluding 18% tax (1084 dollars)
I guess i can get by with the base version for my usage largely involves coding using mainly command line tools with a neovim / emacs setup and a lightweight Debian Linux installation inside a VM using about 2GB RAM.
Wow a VM of 2GB that's gutsy even for lightweight Linux distro
@@JustJoshTech Yeah. I plan to mainly use it for learning Linux system programming with gcc and neovim in the terminal. 2GB should be enough for that. Thing is, I am not sure if macosx can work well enough with the remaining 6GB. Never used a mac before.
I think it sounds extremely risky. You clearly know Computer Science. The Operating System has a fairly fixed cost in terms of memory usage. Then the excess can be used for applications and data. Your 2GB VM (plus a minimal amount for translation layer) will cut into that. Also keep in mind unified memory means that your graphics will be using the same remaining 5.9 GB. I think its too risky personally. If you are in the USA i can send you an alternate laptop to get. @@user-cl8ik9kt9e
@@JustJoshTech Fair point. I think I should wait a few more months till the real world reviews of the upcoming snapdragon laptops come out. At home, I'm well served by my Linux 'desktop' (a 5 yr old Asus ROG Strix). However, a thin and light laptop with ~18 hr battery life is really enticing, but only if I can run Linux on it in some way.
I really like the new X1 Carbon gen 12 btw. If that drops alot around Back to School or Black Friday. I'd look into that too. @@user-cl8ik9kt9e
So where I live right now there is a limited time offer for a brand new 14'' M3 Macbook Pro with 16gb ram at 1650. (so basically free ram upgrade to 16gb) . Do you think thats a deal I should not miss? I was waiting all this time for the Macbook Air M3 16gb ram but now I'm hesitating.
This guy proofs that speaking with confidence even the most useless information ever is key
Really? Are you so smart or so f**king dumb that you don't understand how computers work in general?
I think they should change to:
- Base model 12GB/256GB (some people really do most in the browser but RAM is important for that)
- Ram upgrades to 18/24/32GB
lol didnt see the "windows booting up" part coming
Great review as always, I’m wondering if the issue with the 256gb SSD being slower than a similarly specced 512gb has been solved this time around?
Yes, it has. M3 MBA now has 2 128GB SSDs connected by a high speed bus just like M1 MBA and performance is far better than M2 MBA.
The second Apple upgrades the Air displays to at least 90hz I will jump on board. I am just a basic user I don't need the extra power my current M1 MBP offers at all but my eyes are super sensitive to anything below 60hz and I wanted the reliability of the macbook hence I was forced to get the MBP...
For the cheaper alternative I would have said the HP Pavilion Plus 14 that you can get at Costco for $600-$700 it has 1TB of storage, 16GB memory, 120hz OLED screen and AMD 7840U
Yes but they are tailored for a different market offering those that cannot afford a premium laptop. And of course they are not macos.
don't buy this hp crap
Based on Josh's review of the HP P+ it's pretty much the best bang for your buck in the laptop market right now. I just wished more laptops gave you a AMD's U-series chip option...
For 700 i bought intel nuc x15 laptop with 12gen intel and dedicated arc 730m 12gb vram, also nice build quality and decent screen 24 gb ram
@@Tatar_Piano bad deal 😬
so would the macbook pro with M3 chip have the best battery life?
I did 4k video editing on m3 MacBook Air with 8 gb of ram and it did perfectly fine.
Seriously? Let's meet some time later this year once the next MacOS comes out.
Even today, open a few chrome tabs and try to do some basic video editing, baseline MBA is simply going to give up on RAM and will throttle down quite a bit (since only 5.5 GB of RAM is usable and other 2.5 is VRAM), leading to exponentially higher swaps to SSD reducing it's life and in turn longevity of your device.
@@dwight.shrute how do you know?? Did you test that out on YOUR m3 MacBook Air with 8gb ram??? Because all I know is that my MacBook works and doesn’t break a sweat plus future proofing is a scam since there is always the possibility you drop your laptop
@@ST14_109 Your MacBook works for now on video editing since you are just running one editing software on it, likely not the ones from Adobe. 8GB RAM is insufficient even today since it is a shared RAM and just 5.5GB of RAM is actually available for running all you tasks as 2.5GB is reserved for VRAM (graphics). Yes, future proofing looks like scam if people purchase an overpriced and over the top spec hardware which they don't really use, but in this case 16GB RAM is one upgrade most if not all tech youtubers and every sensible member of the tech community is recommending on MBA.
Maybe you didn't have enough money when going for the purchase but don't misguide others to purchase the baseline MBA as it is useless in the long run, primarily due to the RAM.
You have either a) never used a faster computer or b) edited a very simple project that only requires decoding of basic video.
I bought and returned a m3 pro macbook pro with 18GB of ram. I returned it because it was too ram starved and too slow to edit even my basic videos.
But obviously it is fantastic that you have a machine that does what you need it to do. I'd say Josh is totally right about the base spec air being too ram starved to edit (well) though.
@@ST14_109 You can purchase any device and have the risk of dropping it, this is such a foolish basis of any argument related to longevity, handle with care or don't purchase- simple as that.
You have to consider how much RAM is currently used by the system and basic tasks, trust me 8GB in 2024 is a JOKE esp. when the RAM is shared and part of it is utilized for graphics. You can justify for now, that's what gives Apple leverage to ship a $1200 laptop with 8GB RAM + 256GB SSD in 2024, in a world where 16GB + 512GB should be bare minimum for any sensible purchase.
Will you do reviews for the legion gen 9 2024 lineup? And the zenbook duo 2024?
Yes to Legion, we haven't received them yet. Re Zenbook Duo, we have it, and it is in the queue
Hi Josh, is a used base model Macbook Pro 14 with M1 Pro be a better value than any current Macbooks with M3 chips? Love the vid btw!
Go with M2 MacBook Pro with M2 Pro/Max chip, I have heard people getting them in good discounted deals. Definitely better than base M3 MBA and M3 MBP.
What do you think about the Asus Zenbook Pro 15 flip (UP6502)? I am considering buying it because it's currently on sale for -$500 coming in at $1300 CAD.
Hey Josh! What do you mean with "new model soon" regarding the Zenbook 14? Is there a new AMD variant coming alongside the Core Ultras? Thanks!
Did I say that 🤔 😉 ... make sure you're subscribed
Comparison of premium 14" laptop so far please
Should I get a new M2 MBA 15" 16gb 1tb or a refurbished M3 MBP 14" 16gb 512ssd. Both are the same price at $1.5k
if possible do a comparision video of good 14 inch laptops
Dave2D
@josh, if I want to stay with windows what laptop can go head to head with the m3 max.
The Strix Scar 18 destroys the M3 Max. Yoga Pro 9i 16 in the 16inch form factor is my favorite
You definitely speak the truth. I have Lenovo and I have Apple. Thank you for the video.
would these laptops be very well performing and efficient for basic school work stuff? will it perform well if the main purpose is for word documents, google docs etc?
Yes. The air is basically just a macbook without a cooling system, so low intensity use is the intended purpose. It's like an iPad pro, but with an included keyboard and macOS, making it far more useful than any ipad.
Great reviews, but the prices you mentioned for the Windows laptops are not the ones on the links you provided. They are much more expensive there.
Unfortunately the laptops regularly go on big sales. Thats how Windows laptops are. Hang tight, i'd imagine for Easter weekend or Memorial Day we will see them on sale again
@@JustJoshTech Agree on the price fluctuation of Windows laptops. Same reason why we don't have that kind of resale value for them.
I purchased MBP14 with M2Pro, 16GB/512GB and returned it. At first, it was great. Extra long battery life, great screen to code and design on, great UX from MacOS, existence of brew that I can use Linux stuffs, and even the CAD programs that I currently use runs ok on the Apple silicon.
But once I figured out that 512 was terribly short to run anything with virtual machine, which became a mandatory due to platform shift and doesn't have a good performance since it needs to be x86, the 16+512 was not even close...
So, with the return, I got ASUS G14! Which came with 16GB of memory soldered with an empty SO-DIMM slot and I had a leftover 2TB 2280 M.2 lying around from my desktop PC upgrade, this G14 is now 32+2T with ample power to run everything I need. Even with virtual machines!
Had Apple had a little courtesy they had with my 2008 Unibody MBP, I would have kept the M2Pro MBP14. But being locked out of further upgrade or replacing when something goes wrong, seems too much of planned obsolescence and money gouging instead of selling a good product.
That is always a problem when you have soldered RAM and SSD and it is advisable to buy what you need. I wouldn't blame Apple for that as they based their M-chips on the A-chips which have both soldered RAM and storage. You will find this will be the case with Snapdragon X Elite and even now Intel uses soldered RAM as the latest fastest RAN does not come in modular form. It's a case of adapting and understanding that it is important to buy what you need and maybe a little bit more for future-proofing as the world is changing and technology always moves on.
@andyH_England There is no reason for Apple to be soldering SSDs though. I MAY give them soldering RAM IF they put at least 16 GB on their base units. But even Microsoft has their ARM Surface Pro 9 tablets have M.2 SSDs. That's Apple saying fuck you to consumers. And when it inevitably can't be written to anymore, you'll need a motherboard replacement rather than one part.
@@cameronbosch1213 no one is saying that it is perfect having soldered RAM and storage, but there are reasons for the RAM including the fastest Ram isn't supported at the moment in modular form and there are some ridiculously fast RAM out at the moment. As for storage, it is possible for ARM chips to have modular SSDs but I assume it is to do with cost, space, and performance that persuades Apple to use soldered NAND modules. As always Apple is a small player (10% market share) and people have the choice to accept Apple's decisions or buy something else.
@@andyH_England And I did buy something else.
You do realize you could have gotten an external SSD and put the VMs on that right?
I have external SSDs for specific things (1. SSD for file backup 2. SSD for my retro console emulators and their games). External SSDs can be a live saver. the Internal SSD is always for the OS and user data. VMs and such, I'd always put on an external SSD seperate from the OS. This way, if the OS needs a reinstall, I don't lose my VMs and their configs and such.
Limiting ram to 8gb on a base model in this day and age is worse than paying $400 for a 4050 GPU, but I'll admit, it's damn close.
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Spectre 16 2 in 1 review please❤
It has issues right now. HP has asked us to wait while they issue a bios fix
But yes we have one and will have it in our content
I can’t decide on size.. I’m using 15 inch laptops all my life but want 13 one cuz of portability but I’m worried about the size cuz 13 may feel too small and I’m gonna regret buying it… like is 13 inch ok for reading forums and scrolling the websites and reading CZcams comments?? I’m afraid the texts will be impossible/hard for me to read… idk… maybe I should just go and check it out myself in the store… but 10 minutes in the store won’t be enough time 😢
Hi. Here's an idea for an interesting video. A video about best Ryzen 7 7840u laptop. No such video exsists on YT, and since its best processor other than Mac, it should be a very popular one, especially that not all of them display same performance, despite having same cpu, ram, etc
@justjoshtech, any updates on the long term use of the Asus ZenBook Duo 2024 laptop?
We are still testing it. Sorry, alot of laptops here :)
@@JustJoshTech Cool sounds, no worries and looking forward for to the video when available.
Apple probably think they can justify all this with the logic that if you want to do actual work you shouldn't be looking at the Air in the first place. I mean it kinda is true, but only because they force it to be. It would likely cannibalise the sells of their pro machines if they put out a 16/512 macbook air at a low price.
Thank for your information, I am using my M1 Pro 14" basic model for my daily work and photo editing (at home I will plug in my 28" 4k mon), I wish to looking for a lighter and bigger mon for use, it is good to trade for m3 air 15" 16G 512 ?
NO. M1 Pro 14" will still be perform better than M3 MBA for 2 reasons: fans and better SOC to handle extensive workloads. M1 Pro 14" should only be compared with M2 and M3 Pro Chips.
Few months ago I got Yoga Slim 7 with 90 Hz OLED, 32 GB memory and 1TB storage for price of the base Macbook Air model. What a joke
3 hours of battery life and fan noise. what a joke
@@neugeburt1952 My ASUS S13 (AMD 6800U) can run for 15-16 hrs on light tasks. Typically 12 hrs for day to day productivity work. Not all Windows laptops have poor battery life.
I feel sad for you that you bought an overpriced yoga crap
Yoga battery life does suck but noise wise they're much better than I was expecting. Great value for money.
I hope your one lasts. I have had a crap experience with Lenovo, but that was a while back, and they may have improved since then.
What about the Qualcomm elite chips tho?
Video out tomorrow am on this. It's around 23 minutes long!
Can you PLEASEE review the lg gram style that's probably coming in a month or two? i'm comfident it will be an interesting laptop.
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@@IlyasSahnoun Nope
Good review. Appreciate the Windows alternatives. I wish that Windows laptops had better battery life.
m1 STILL REMAINS KING, that gpu performance rivaling new intel chips arc gpus is INSANE
Both GPU's are on TSMC 5nm, so not really.
@@ValdeSanus yeah it does. Only as of now Intel managed to have high performance intergraded GPUs
Meh, I would probably borrow or bring up some extra cash and go for the MacBook Pro 14 with the vanilla M3 chip. At least that way, I do get good sustained performance, the gorgeous mini-LED display and the additional HDMI port, a better all rounder laptop than the MacBook air.
As usual thanks for the advice on the new MacBook Air. I do believe Apple would is doing a disservice by not including 16 gigs for the base model
But if they did, it would cost more! So, I do not get that argument. If they started at the recommended configuration of 16GB/512GB, the Air 13-inch would cost $1500, which is what it costs now! Remember, all premium laptops cost a similar amount, which is called equilibrium pricing. Please name me one premium Windows machine for $1100 list (not discounted 2023 models) with 16GB/512GB. I will save you the trouble, there are none, e.g. the XPS 14 without the OLED display and lower PPI is £1600! The Surface Laptop 6 is £1999! The Galaxy Book4 Pro is £1600. The MB Air 13 M3 with that spec is cheaper than all these at £1500 suggesting that Apple is not overcharging versus comparable rivals.
@@andyH_England Storage has gotten significantly cheaper in the last decade and an upgrade to 16GB + 512 GB (both soldered) is not going to cost more than $80-100 for Apple, yet they charge $400 for the same. Companies need to be held accountable for taking consumers for granted, be it Apple or anyone.
There are very good Windows laptops with 16GB RAM + 512/1TB SSD, dedicated graphics, and very capable processors from AMD. These cost right in the MBA bracket and outperform it except for the battery life. Check out Asus, Acer and Lenovo. If you can't find, let me know, I will share some links here.
@@andyH_England It will not cost more. Your opinion is limited to very limited set of laptops. Memory both RAM and SSD has got significantly cheaper in last few years and 16GB / 512GB baseline specs are just $80-100 for Apple not more than that (considering all the internal architecture and tightly integrated components since I work in the industry). We need to STOP allowing companies like Apple to ship $1100-$1600 laptops in 2024 with 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD.
@@andyH_England I can enlist fantastic premium Windows laptops which ship with 16GB RAM and 512/1TB SSD with 4GB RTX or Ryzen graphics, in same price range as baseline MBA or even lesser.
Do you think matte or glossy display is better for your type of usage, like video editing, programming or graphism
Doesn't matter to me. Glossy needs to be 500 nits or higher for me, though, as it needs to combat reflections
Glossy is best for everything. Just ban matt finish. I just hate matt finish.
I love matte finish. Dirt is not spotted as easily, easier to clean as well, less reflections too.
Glossy display laptops get more dirt from even the keyboard, as the glass can touch the keyboard slightly, while matte display are a bit into the bezels.
I'd only get glossy for OLED screens if it's touch screen.
@@HDRPC Most dumbest and unpopular opinion in this entire comments section.
Did HP already fix that palm rest problem? Or is it still there?
Still there but a driver update will probably fix it if it causes too much complaints.