Brown Star for Effort - This AliExpress Gaming Laptop is HILARIOUS
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From the far shores of AliExpress comes another strange and confusing product - there are other gaming laptops with mechanical keyboards, but none are quite like this one! Let’s take a look at some of its more unique features.
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0:00 Intro
1:04 What ARE you?!
2:22 "Free" "gifts"
3:32 Ports and... webcam storage?
4:39 Actually a good screen!
6:32 Meh speakers, but that keyboard!
8:51 Something is up with this OS
13:16 Break out the screwdriver
14:36 Can it game?
16:00 Conclusion - Věda a technologie
Linus singlehandedly raised Deeq Inc. valuation by 100%.
Well I bought one after seeing this video
Can't help feel politically this was created as a "Come on main brands, upgrade your lower end tech already" video...
@@SamariumNickel Is yours still performing good and how is the battery life?
yes
@@SamariumNickel We need an update. How is the laptop? What do you use it for? Is it any good?
The magnetic webcam is actually quite nice.
Yeah, if it was done right i'd much rather have one of those.
i would rather have a physical toggle switch to disable the webcam. it would get lost and not be replicable because most companies dont care about reparability, and its not standardized so you have to buy their brand.
@@VD-cc4hx The point is not to disable it but to not have the border be super huge and/or thick. Good webcams (which this one probably isn't) need space, both tall and thick, both of which are really quite annoying when you want to make a sleek and thin display.
@@sihilius A few Chinese review channels also reviewed this laptop. Theirs all worked fine. I don't think they are paid to only speak about the bright side, and I really agree with their point of view. Why should someone spend all their really tight budget on a keyboard and screen, when the processor will be too slow to do basically anything in a few years , when they could buy a much more powerful machine with useable 1080P screen and keyboard, that will last them for many more years.
Unless they stick with windows 10 and MS office 2020, which is possible with the windows hackery that also works for office, and a reinstallation every few years to get rid of the junk files. So this thing is a really niche products for people who only type and browse the web. I really doubt whether this laptop will have consumer support in a few years. In China, it is possible to get it fixed by third-party, but it would not be worth the money considering how cheap it is.
So great idea, don't buy, unless you just want to use it as a secondary computer and are willing to accept the loses when it breaks.
I could see it being used on the ipads pencil charger
The Thumbnail + Title made it seem like it was going to be wayyyyy worse, but this was actually pretty decent and deserves more than a "Brown Star for Effort" !!
The title is the reason its their most watched video in almost 2 months
@@trutharrow5311 Yeah we all love those type of "HILARIOUS" "FAIL" "wish/AliExpress" quality products type videos, you'd expect something bad, super cheap, scam, fake & ultimately not worth the $
But dang this one deserved better Title & Thumbnail! I feel like the title & Thumbnail were almost picked before Linus gets to review the thing XD
@@baby333 i absolutely agree, i might actually buy this one. A very pleasant surprise this laptop. I dont care at all about gaming fps. Tbh it felt like linus was trying pretty hard to find bad aspects
@@trutharrow5311 Yep! which might be understandable seeing the price & its not from an offical western known retailer.. BUT the THUMBNAIL + Title is really unjustified XD
TOP/MOST Comments on the video also kind of hints towards that too
@@trutharrow5311 They are still pushing this idiotic fad how magically computers are meant to game ... 99% of computers are made for working and processing specific things not gaming that runs bunch of code spagheti which often cant utilize a single damn thing let alone RUN even the most high-end processing computer can't handle any of that, yet here we are idiots pushing games on them then complain like it will change the fact that they are idiots ...
Also the fact that specific games are coded for specific drivers and specific models of computer parts, if you run it on anything else you ask for a disaster and there is ZERO room for complaining you did this to yourselves. You should know better.
Even if the advert states it's a gaming machine you have to realize you are buying a placebo aka gimmick, it's not what it says.
For a work station or even casual device this laptop is great value for what it offers. Install your own OS, make backup of the new drivers just in case if they vanish and you are good to go for years.
An eyetracker or hand motion sensor would work pretty great on top! Could add extra VR tracking to gaming laptops or accessability for people who need it!
Mencare products ?
Still better than my school's "computers"
You got chromebooks too?
School IT here. We buy cheap computers because we expect them to get lost, broken, abused, stolen etc…
If 30% of devices need to be replaced within 2 years it doesn’t make much sense to spend a lot of money on them.
Who cares
You guys got computers?
Naah bro we have Intel pentium and 2 gb ram not kidding the wide goofy ahh display and it lags like shit i am surprised it even runs windows 10
Linus: "Who the hell is Deeq?"
AliExpress: "Can this Deeq fit in your mouth?"
Deeq nuts?
Deeq and balls
Tbf, having a 16 inch deeq is something to brag about
Ayyyyyy GOTTEM
im just imagining people asking if others wanna see their 16 inch deeq lmao
If Deeq were to legitimize their products a bit and fix some quirks, they would actually have a big fighting chance against other laptops on the market. It's crazy!
And it wouldn't take much to do. The hard parts are done (screen and keyboard) that just leaves the battery thing and using legit windows and they'd be 90% there.
The pins and magnetic connectors on this laptop almost remind me of the way the Motorola Motomods connected to the back of your phone. Which was a pretty incredible idea tbh! They work surprisingly well even years and years later, the connection between the laptop and the pins area probably is the biggest hinderance to the design here since the only issue I had is sometimes the MotoMods would be finnicky if you didn't exactly have them lined on properly or there was a bit of dirt on the connections, but they had much stronger magnets and the flat back a phone has means it was a much stronger and secure connection and would "lock" into place.
It's a Celeron CPU. The fastest ddr4 ram it supports officially is 2999
2999 is a weird value for a DDR memory frequency
@@lemonsh 2666 at least sounds edgy
DDR? Dance Dance Revolution?
@@LW1Tok Yeah
I've got a small HP14 with an N6000, similar processor. Its stupidly good for what it is and as a travel machine it does just fine with my catalouge of retro and indie games. The only unmentioned downside of this NWNLAP machine is the DDR4 doesnt look like its upgradable.
It took me 3 months at my current IT job to realize all of our network drops are at 100mbs and we’ve been reimaging devices like MacBooks on this network.
If your IT department is anything like mine, it's because non-IT management thinks a "gigabit switch" means a 10/100 switch with a gigabit uplink ... and therefore you don't need to upgrade.
Just reading this comment...made me cringe your in your companies network speed...My home network is gig but my shop's network is 100 x.x but all we do with it is look up service information.
What is your real speed, how many MBs/second? 2 or 3?
@@KerenWang lol
Lmao
I like the attachable camera especially since it would allow upgrading with extra rgb lights in the same extension slot. Something every gamer needs.
Impressive kit for the price.
A suggestion for video: try and find out if any of the sketchy computer/network gear actually phone home or raise a suspicion of that (non standard firmware/chips, rootkits etc). Most suspect that some do but finding one such would make a great video
Deeq actually has a long and illustrious product catalog, starting with their flagship models Ligma and Sugma.
Sugma is the best series ever. I have the limited sugma deeq edition and it's amazing!
I still rocks my Ligma from Deeq. Experience is great so far!
@@midnightpurple555 you've never heard of ligma deeq?
You really need ligma deeq
The accessories they provide are fantastic, too. In order to improve thermals a bit when on my desktop I went with the Deeq Suqqa ventilation system. The peripherals aren't too shabby either. I personally went with the N-Balls dual trackball gaming mouse.
They actually have a big Deeq range. I have an 18 inch Deeq.
The windows activation you were seeing there was KMS. They are checking their own KMS servers and registering via that method. KMSPico will do this on your own without calling home to China. You can setup the MiniKMS server on your own computer and have it call itself.
honestly just use MAS get a one time license forever less effort this way
@@jeffreyweng9326 right? MAS is incredibly simple and once you use HWID the license can survive completely reinstalling windows. It's never been easier tbh.
It makes sense that they avoid using local KMS as Microsoft often flags local KMS servers as a virus, even when they are not. By writing their own code to call a third party KMS server, they can avoid Windows Defender getting triggered. Either way, there are better ways to do this as mentioned in the comments above.
Then again, KMS could be more resilient, since if the HWID method gained widespread commercial deployment, these keys could be disabled in the future, since they could track down any activations performed with a specific IP address. But then again, if the third party KMS servers are shut down, that will also result in failed activations. In the end, the only way to guarantee the longevity of the keys is to get them legitimately.
this thing is why i stopped pirating windows, and hesitant on buying license, besides most of my need works in linux
Thank you for the video! Tried to find real deeq pics before and reviews, but found your video which is better.
gotta love Linus' chinese to english translation device: "ANDY!!!"
Ah Ali express, the hive of wisdom and budget
Edit: Damnnn so many likes
@Don HOW DO YOU KNOW WHERE THEY GET THEIR HARDWARE?!?!?!
It's a decent place to shop though for those who actually shop there and don't use it to mine content for CZcams. It's main audience regions are Russia and Brazil. There are actually a lot of good brands and stores(I mostly use it to shop for good head/earphones, other audio equipment and some other stuff). Not too sure why Americans or Canadians would shop there for the most part, Amazon and other online stores make a better shopping experience given the shipping costs unless you want something specifically from there which Amazon doesn't have.
@Don They've been caught harvesting hardware from landfills and scrap heaps for their electronics many times
@@user-co1ru4hc3h That applies more to Wish I think. Aliexpress is far better about customer experience, refunds and the sort. Over my years I only ever bought one thing that was straight up trash, and that was a 'Samsung SD card', which used a memory hack trick(stated 32 GBs, I doubt it was even 1 GB). I got a refund relatively easily.
@@ruekurei88 you don't simply buy a big brand product on AliExpress. You find the good "small" brands. So for storage stuff Netac is the way to go.
ngl, marketing a 16:10 display as a 'golden ratio' display is lowkey genius
They're short by 0.018 or so IIRC
LOL the timestamp
@@Lodinn I'd like to see somebody try an actual golden ratio screen: (1+sqrt(5)):2
@@SWalkerTTU not possible unless they put some bezel over part of a row of subpixels I’m pretty sure, and even then is obviously not exact, a normal monitor is only exact by counting pixels anyways
And speakers just for decoration 😂😂
I love how Linus called Andy to tell him what the battery voltage was although it was written using normal decimal numbers
Also, a dinky two-cell 7.6V lithium battery powering a 16" laptop? I wonder how much current that thing is pulling on a regular basis at such a low voltage. Might be worth checking to see in a month or two if the battery's power connector or harness has melted or turned brown yet.
@@zorilla0nothing will happen bruh, it's pretty normal for such weak laptops to have two-cell 2S1P batteries
Multiple partitions are still useful for system recoverability. Stick the library folders on a secondary partition (or preferably, second drive) and reinstalls of the OS become so much easier.
Holy, that webcam thing is actually sweet, I wish that were more common (as long as it works XD)
needed a less terrible connector, basically.
It just need a better mechanism to lock it. Forget magnets. A captive screw is all you need.
@@juntapiezas or maybe something like that doodad on tool less m.2 ssd slots could work.
That would be a sick idea with a better design and build quality
@@laurencefraser What about a similar connector to how Lian-Li do their Uni fans? They lock in nicely, and I haven't had any issue about them not being connected.
Wow, to be honest that really isn't bad for the price. A family member bought a brand new laptop for around the same price about a year ago and it's _garbage_. It came installed with Windows 10 S on a 64GB eMMC drive, 4GB RAM and an Intel Celeron N4500 (iirc). To be fair, they're only going to be using it for word processing and web browsing, but I had to get it out of S mode so you could actually install stuff and I tried opening up Edge and it was beyond painfully slow. Even opening a folder was slow. It disgusts me how manufacturers sell this sort of crap and claim that it's a decent machine and sell it for that price.
literal e waste and a huge environmental problem. companies should not be allowed to produce crap like that.
laptop marketing is pure jargon and techno babble to the general consumer, most of the population doesnt know what an i5 or i3 processor is, what mhz means, what an ssd even is, but these are the terms slapped all over the marketing for them. its how they get away with charging so much for slow processors that are multiple generations old and can barely function with current software, ram and storage that is effectively already landfill by the time the host machine is in someones hands. its disgusting.
Put Debian on it and that machine would be perfectly fine for those tasks. The issue here is how unoptimised Windows has become.
Yeah the Celeron N4XXX cannot run Windows decently, however Linux does actually run good on them. I bought a Asus Vivobook Flip with an N4020 in it, and going to linux (Zorin OS which is based on Ubuntu) made it actually usable. That being said the N5XXX series are actually pretty good for Windows, the N5105 runs Windows 11 very well.
the only thing Celeron CPU, and calling it games machine too. when showed the intel that something dissent and you get the end and Celeron there, but metal case, why the speaker, are delebrtley, and intentionally; on purpose trying to make the bad with good parks?
Honestly, after wiping the os, this doesn't seem like a bad laptop for basic nongaming use. I wish there was a specific product link for those of us who aren't well versed in aliexpress. Also, was the ram upgradable?
In the linustechtips forum discussion post, someone posted the aliexpress link
I think if you use it with something like GeForce Now it would be even better. Good screen, Intel WiFi, and good keyboard. Sounds like a great setup.
great vlog 👍 .....
if it weren't for the sketchy o.s. i'd buy a couple of these as gifts to nephews/nieces!
It's not exactly a "gaming" laptop, but this kind of hardware combo is what I've been proposing as a non-gaming home or office machine for years now - use available height for a good screen and keyboard and save space with a modern-day Atom SoC (the Celeron N5105 is about as powerful as an i5-2400 if memory serves)... not like it has to be the sleekest thing in the world to begin with. Would I like a laptop with a good IPS screen and a mechanical keyboard, hell yes I would.
Literally just give me this with, like, a low tier but current GPU and at least the equivalent of a Ryzen 3600 and I'll be happy.
holy shit, roughly equivalent to an i5 2400? that's huge. i was still running that cpu with a 1060 until like a year or two ago, and it was great. genshin maxed out np, csgo runs well above my 144hz screen, and some other stuffs.
that's actually awesome, you could probably jerryrig a desktop gpu with some mini pcie adapters into the laptop, and get yourself a great budget desktop replacement
@@vincentlaurensius8714 ehhhhh not with that battery. You'd be flat in 30 mins without AC
@@vincentlaurensius8714 yup, the majority of tests put it almost exactly the same as the 2400. Some have it 5% ahead, only noticeable loss for the celeron I could find was 16% but might just be a quirk of that version of geekbench. And that's at like 10W vs 95W lol
@@shahtayyib I think it's more like a "student typewriter with occasional Genshin" than anything like "five hours in a coworking".
Plus with that draw I wonder if you can charge it using just portable batteries with type-c.
14:00 Linus calling Andy to read something that is clearly English 🤣
The glimpse we got at the webcam working shows it to look quite great in comparison to others, like holy hell
The inside is amazing. It just pops off! Screw normal laptops that have like 200 screws and 8 stages you have to do in order or some ribbon cable commits sudoku.
Yeah, it sucks when my ribbon cables decide to fill grids with aligned number patterns. Drives me up a wall, makes me wanna commit sokoban.
Being made out of metal helps, don't need to spread the load as much. And there's not much to the insides in the first place as this is effectively netbook stuffing with much smaller and more integrated parts
For that batch file to activate windows, "jh" stands for "JiHuo", which is the spelling of the pronouncination of "激活", or "activation". I assume they are installing a legit copy of windows but activated it with some magic from this batch file. I won't doubt any changes they made to this particular copy "bad" since otherwise they could just remove the activation entirely. The reasons they made those changes such as partitions on hard drive, arrangements of icons on desktop, could be based on behaviors of potention users who would purchase this laptop. This looks like a perfect gift for parents and my parents would do the exactly same thing with any new laptop. The activation actually could be legit as well if they are indeed authorized for OEM activation on devices for sale. There used to be a time that all laptops sold in China were installed with windows copies activated by such batch scripts relying on OEM servers including big companies like Asus or Dell. The scripts basically just install a product key, change the activation server to any corresponding OEM server and finish the activation process. Of course you could "build" your own "activation server" and run your own script to pirate, and that would be unauthorized and not allowed.
Lol, my parents don't even know what a hard drive is, let alone how to partition one, lmaoooo.
They are using kms activation in the batch file. It is not uncommon
I would reformat it just in case. You never know if Xinnie the Pooh has access to your files with a Chinese device.
This reinforces my feeling that everything about this is like "we left the provisioning script on the device" which is like, idk, I've worked IT, I've done that. The paranoia is tedious. For a high school or early college student with a lot of papers to write, and at $350 USD? This sounds like a really nice computer.
@dejuren wait, what is gaobao?
for $385, you cant expect much, and this exceeds that. 10/100
So 1/10?
aww poor Ali Express, they didnt pay Linus millions of dollars to film a commercial for their products and didn't get a typical puff piece from the Loser mass market electronics dweeb in chief....how ever will they survive....
I picked up a medion eraser gaming laptop with mechanical keyboard and rgb from a second hand shop for £299 it’s surprisingly quite a new one - had no idea you could get a gaming laptop for that price 😀😳
@@tynao2029 ali express is like amazon they dont have any product of there own, and i dont think a $3 Billion dollar company needs advertisement.
@@notcapnbloodbeard Wait Amazon doesn't own those Amazon Basics brands?
I would say that magnetic connector on the top would be a good spot for a mini projector as well.
@9:14 man great opportunity to edit in the Obi-Wan quote
Linus talking about how slow 2400 DDR4 is meanwhile I'm here still using 2133 that I got in Jan 2017.
Ehmm, yeah I was kinda thinking the same.. DDR4 "normal speed" is 2133 MHz... and then 2400 is....slow? Like its gonna matter one bit with a Celeron lol..
I'm running 8GB of 1333mhz DDR3 in my main (with an R9 290 and FX 8350) so this is out of my league
I guess he is thinking on ddr3 top speeds which used to be 2133 and 2400 for the very high end ram back then, so he was thinking in older technology, but 2400 and 2666 are the norm on laptops and even desktop low end pieces until 2021.
I ran 2400 just an year ago. It was not optimal, but it was fine.
Hell yea I'm also running some sweet 2133 from 2016 lol
My used 'writing' laptop is a Lenovo X220. That keyboard is unbeatable. The computer is slow, but for web surfing and writing scripts, it's GREAT! I use it in my lap while I'm doing stuff on my main computer. A good keyboard is essential to the experience.
Classic lenovo/IBM thinkpads definitely have some of the best laptop keyboards of all time.
I put the keyboard in my x230 with unlocked i7 @4GHz, not slow anymore, especially when using Linux :) should be on par with that Deeq thing while being 10 years old.
The old X series cannot be beaten in productivity experience. You can actually get Chinese replacement motherboards with 10th gen intels on them, that fit in the old x200/x201 frames (x2100 project).
Wish they kept and improved that keyboard. My x230 and even p14s are still best in their class. I hate that we get crappy Dells at work instead. :(
Yeah but you can upgrade the CPU on that laptop if you bought it with an I5 and go with quad core with hyperthreading.
Put an SSD in it and it it a good laptop for browsing the web, movies, youtube and with a wired internet connection you can even use GeforceNow.
This video is an example as to why LTT is so great! Linus and his team look at everything in such great detail from software to hardware. Great video!!
You should do a video where you fully upgrade this machine to see what it’s capable of. New windows install, top spec m.2 ssd, and faster ddr4 ram. Maybe also see if a battery upgrade is possible and Liquid Metal on cpu with fan replacement for some overclock?
YESS and maybe a linux install
@@pntrk I just bought one todo that exact thing! ;)
@@andrewbrady8564 please tell us how it goes!
15:44 thank you editor!
3:23 Fast Ethernet only uses 4 of the 8 twisted pair connections by design, so makes sense. Think of the half a cent they saved on the design XD
Yes I'd be glad to know that the Ethernet card is using the inferior 100 Mbps from the get go by looking at the pins, instead of the pins being present and not being used at all.
It's those cents that allow them to cut the price that much. Do that 100 more times and you can sell the thing for 250 dollars
I buy that similar white usb-Ethernet before it names 10/100mbps Ethernet (10 year ago) but sadly it's just ..10Mbps lol. 100Mbps Ethernet will be fine for internet now aday.
I have one of these I bought sometime ago that I keep in my tech bag to diagnose bad network ports/WiFi, and I don't think I paid but maybe $5 for it on eBay, and it works out of the box with Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, and Chrome OS/Flex. so kind of handy to have for such a cheap price even not being Gigabit.
@@CommodoreFan64 Same. I have one as well (for the same price) and it's useful extremely for the situations you described, plus maybe for a quick configuration of a router, network camera, etc.
They gave my school computers intel i7 and gtx 1050 💀
The way you said 1080p got me in the feels. Shots fired 😆
This laptop made HUGE waves across China socmed as "Lv Biao Laptop" (green label laptop), because of how much of a value buy it is compared to bigger brands offering, even good relatively good after sales! Wish the big brands really learn a thing or two from them
The "Windows is activated using your organisation's activation service" comes up when they activated it using custom KMS servers, so yea, most likely pirated windows 10.
Come on, they should be using HWID by now!
@@GuyGamer1 haha so true, I think they didn't figured out the Microsoft-Activation-Scripts in github yet.
Yep, came here for this comment. Maybe not pirated, but shady. The comment that it pokes chinese servers to "make sure" something something made me laugh for a bit, LMG's clearly not on top of their pirating game.
well, it's an easy to solve problem if you dont want a pirate copy of windows on your pc.
ya see, you can get a single win 10 ESD serial nowdays for like 10 bucks. You just need to use a program to pull and backup all the driver installed, download a win10 iso from microsoft, departition that SSD, format it (or, you know, just change SSD and keep the old one for safety) and install windows and all the driver you already pulled.
At very most you'll need to backup the mousepad, wifi and webcam programs and those usually can work without installer. You can get a list of their files and regedit keys with geek uninstaller (launch force remove, copy the list and click cancel). Just waste a couple of hours at very worst and you have a manual backup for those.
@@Lodinn maybe some part of the batch file was doing that, Linus could just scroll to lines with the KMS stuff
Partitioning the drive still makes a lot of sense, when you reinstall you only have to format the windows partition and keep all you data on a 2nd partition. or your steam library so you don't have to redownload everything. It does save a toon of time.
Look at my brand new Deeq
“The most excellent circuit design” got my thumbs up and a good chuckle.
I totally agree 😂
The reason of partitioning is that they use one single drive from which to copy for SSDs of variety of capacity. They copy it, and add some partition. It's easier for them.
Kind of ingenious actually... hadn't thought of that.
They could literally let automation expand the partition to fill the disk once they have sysprepped it.
Don't get, can some one dumb it down further plz asking for a friend 🙏
@@ProjectPewgf they probably sell many variants with various disk sizes (128, 256, 512 GB and so on), so they just make a partition for windows that would fit the smallest size (e.g. 128 GB) and then make more partitions to fill the remaining space on larger drives. It's actually faster than resizing an existing partition.
@@francescogugliuzza3827 Now that makes perfect sense thank you mate
4:30 Eyetracker sensor too!
The changing price is probably because online stores do this thing on sales where they put a much higher price and put a discount that lowers it to the original price, and since this video was made around Christmas they were probably doing just that
There's a lot of good audience for low cost, high value, thrifty PC laptops. You should make more reviews like that. Not necessarily with the humorous angle, but fair reviews. I liked when you reviewed Walmart's Motile laptops. You should include some brands from China like BMAX, Chuwi and Jumper.
Ooo I got a Jumper laptop cheap (about € 35 I think), former owner's friend had tried to install W10 on it and failed, making the device "bricked". I reformatted the "SSD" (I'm still not sure if a REAL SSD is inside...) and installed W10 with a USB stick. But surprise surprise, half of the installed hardware is not recognised, no drivers for them even in the latest W10 version... They are "downloadable" on the Jumper webpage, yesyes, which is half english and half chinese... I gave up for the moment, in a quiet hour I will again try to download them...
@frankmeyer9984 I'm an enthusiast who owns 20 laptops at home basically as a hobby, ranging from several very premium ones to a number of cheap ones from China. On a cost/benefit ratio, I'm quite impressed with two models I own: the BMAX Y11 (Now shipping with upgraded processor as Y11 Plus) and the Chuwi Corebook X. Both work perfectly with Windows drivers, both running Win11. Build quality and specs are superb for the price. Sure you can buy a US$4000 fully specd MacBook Pro 16 (I do own one) but there's a thrill from seeing what a 10x cheaper device can do.
@@Gustavo_St Indeed... Everyone can buy a solution, or make it by himself 🖖Today I watched a review of a $ 375 gaming laptop, and the results were partly sadly laughable and partly highly impressive! For this money it may be the BEST "gaming" laptop you can get! Real mechanical keyboard, 4 real cores up to 2.9 GHz, 16 GB RAM, Aluminium case,, high quality high resolution IPS display with "Golden Ratio" 19:10 display... Well you get what you pay for, but in *that* case you get a LOT of Laptop for under 400 bucks...
Excellent suggestion. We all know the main brands and have seen the reviews on websites, CZcams, etc. No one covers the OEM, Chinese, Indian 3rd party brands in English. Theres loads of students, people or small businesses on a budget that would benefits from those reviews. Particularly if these laptops allow easy DIY repair.
@@frankmeyer9984just go for Linux it’s a better OS anyways
Having spent some time looking in to getting a tablet manufactured, I might be able to shed some light on this.
A lot of Chinese ODMs have demo units they can send out that are designed to show off what they can do. This laptop is typical of this. The webcam shows custom accessory design, the mechanical keyboard and screen show off a little premium hardware, the chassis is designed to show build quality. For the things most people are familiar with though, they go with the minimum needed for the demo units to work. So they show where premium speakers would go, but use cheap speakers for the demo. They use a cheapest processor in the series the motherboard design targets. The cheapest RAM (probably old stock) that will fit in the board, and same for the SSD.
These units are basically sold at-cost. The weird Windows is actually not as weird as it looks. It's almost certainly a bulk OEM license provided for evaluation purposes. The script is probably a test script that the company has been using for years, built in to an image they clone on to the demo units.
The demo tablet I got was very similar, with a mix of surprisingly premium and extremely cost-cutting features. Honestly, though, it was an amazing tablet at the demo unit price. This laptop is almost certainly the same sort of thing.
Honestly, this laptop looks awesome. I kind of want to get one and put Linux on it just for fun!
Interesting insights. But wouldn't this be ODM rather than OEM?
@@r7calvin I do believe you're correct. I updated my comment (OEM to ODM)
Where do we find these ODM products?
@@mujtabaalam5907 Usually they're sold directly from the factory to someone who is looking to have something manufactured. In this case, it looks like one of the factories just decided to go ahead and make enough to sell.
The script is definitely an actvation script, as from what little we've seen of it it refers to KMS, an activation system intended for enterprise versions of the OS which wouldn't be used on some sort of separate device not meant to be a part of a corporate network.
Unless, of course, it's used as means of fraudulent activation, owing to the fact that the keys used by this system can be shared by indeterminate number of machines (therefore can't just be detected as illegitimate copy), and you only need the OS to connect to your fake activation server (or an emulation of it) to fool it into thinking it's a legitimate copy.
3:44 MircoSD? seems like the Engrish is contagious!
I need something to write code and run powerpoint presentations. My primary needs are good screen and keyboard. This is amazing!
2400MHz DDR4 was quite common for laptops
My current PC has 2133 MHz DDR4 RAM xD I got it when DDR4 was still new and never upgraded xD
@@FeuerGame lol me too,but even if i would have gotten more,my i7 7700 can't do more than 2133 anyway xD
my laptop runs on 2666MHz
WAS
True, all entry level laptop runs from 2133 to 2666mhz
I really like that idea off having options to replace the camera. Such as putting a small fan to cool you or a laptop in hot weather or mimi light/bulb.
I hope big companies do this too because at least we can upgrade the camera to 4k instead of 750p or 1080p.
You can choose to not buy it as well or get it later if you need it after all.
I agree on the camera, but what would a fan do on top lol
@@cd7677 For the user not the computer
This is actually insane how good it is for its price
15:43 personally really appreciate this. My internet has been spotty lately
Thought for the editor: the point of “your video is not buffering” is so the viewer knows the freezing isn’t on their side. Perhaps include some Motion in that prompt so they know with confidence.
Also, a little bit of smartassery: buffering means that it's loading more video ahead of time into the buffer. Saying that it's _not_ buffering, sounds like there actually is a problem.
They could've used the floating head to show motion
If your video was buffering you wouldn't know if it was supposed to be moving or not.
Assuming you’re all listening with sound, you’d often be able to tell if it was buffering or not. Either the sounds gets choppy or cuts out completely until it loads more data for it to be playable - at least for the next few seconds.
I think what they were trying to imply was, the game is buffering, the video is not.
A quick image search on JD gave me this exact same laptop under another brand (that has a different logo). And the 512GB model is around 275USD when converted from its RMB price, so I'd say its oversea price isn't that ridiculous. Also on JD this is a self-hosted (as opposed to third party seller) item, which should indicate that at least this thing is not shady, and isn't being returned much yet.
And although I don't see how this thing can be for gaming, it might be an okay (or even excellent actually) budget writing laptop (as there is a mechanical keyboard), but if there's no need to get the absolute lowest budger one I don't think this is a good choice.
I honestly do love the design of this thing. It's got so many neat features! Idk why they marketed it as a gaming laptop tho - I'd just buy it and use it for general use. Honestly if I needed a laptop, I'd pick this up rn. It's so interesting.
@@jinxedpenguin Well then Buy it but install a new copy of windows Buy a Cheap install Key and there you go. 👍👍
@@jinxedpenguin If you Buy it you might take out the 2400 Ram install 2600 or 3200 Ram speed memory. 👌👌
I like the design as for a writing laptop. It has a mechanical keyboard, a good screen and is thin. Someone could make a laptop like this with better build quality and sell it for much more money as a niche product.
@@matj12 Asus Zenbook Pro 16X comes to mind..........
I was amazed it works , never mind be so good. Guess the problem in when it breaks and there is no replacement motherboards screens
etc available
I hate how the simple settings being turned on or off are being called sketchy while major manufacturers literally put malware and spyware in their computers and are recommended by this channel.
Y'know, a sleeve with a backplate and mousepad material on one side isn't such a bad idea. I'd buy one. Pop the laptop out, sleeve on the table, backplate keeps it level and boom, mousepad.
LTTstore maybe?
Yes!!
On the WAN show a merch message asked about an LTTstore laptop sleeve and Dan replied with "who told you" (here: czcams.com/video/b6LnXwytBuA/video.html )
I don't have a need for this since I don't travel,... but this sounds like a very practical idea. If I did travel I could see this being a nice space saving feature when I get to the hotel room.
You could plug a tobii eye tracking system on the pogo pins instead of a webcam if they worked better
Would be cool for wii emulation if you could stick on the ir emitters for the remotes
@@SleepLessThan3 2 tea lights is more reliable lol
@@NEEDMORECOW8ELL 😭
A very low res, low hz mini monitor? I'm sure you could find a use for that? Cpu stats or temps probably.
Alarm clock/countdown timer, maybe a AA battery charger, a phone mounting bracket with USB-C pass-through, a launchpad for a mini drone, a robot arm that can clean your keyboard or Another robot arm with an open palm that you can high five when you get a W in your favourite game! So many cool ideas lmao :D
Shenzhen Part Bin specials are a magical thing to behold!
Buy all the cheapest weirdest off-shelf parts and coble them together!
There is one great reason for using an OS partition, even in 2023. Because I'm paranoid about losing files/killing my windows (I have a lot of experience in killing Windows), I do weekly imaging of my OS partition, and store that on my NAS.
Creating and storing a 250GB partition takes *a lot* less time and storage than 5TB one
I think Deeq use to be the budget pc peripheral company from India that moved to Shenzen, called Suqma Deeq.
Are you serious 🤣
Was gonna do this joke, but you beat me to it... : (
yup.
Lmao this one is really good
damn nice one
IBM had top-mounted monitor cams/microphones/etc on their thinkpad lineup way back known as the UltraPort. I don't think it was magnetic, but same concept. Neat!
I remember having one of those from work back in the day. I think it clipped on but same idea. We loved it.
They're back! CES had a few P15 laptops with them.
Those are usb too. They had a adapter to hook them up to regular usb if you wanted, which even had a bendy tripod.
Other than the obvious camera and microphones, there also was a card reader! No idea why youd want a card reader on the top of your screen. Also every laptop with ultraport had expresscard/PCMCIA which would be leagues faster for card readers.
IBM/Lenovo always had the funny stuff (Lenovo also had some malware issues tho) BUT i loved the fact that i could just Slap a 2nd GT650M into my laptop for when i had to render something or shut down and yank it out for a Blu-ray drive
Great review mate! And I'm not even a compuer geek haha
Deeq reminds me of Deacon from The King of Queens because they sometimes called him "Deac". lol
The display is a marketed as "Golden Ratio" because Phi = 1.618 ≈ 16/10
16:10 = 1,6:1 = 1,6 ≈ phi
@@ea8455 What’s The Drunk Equal Sign Mean ?
@@keepmovingforward5576 “approximately” - the Golden Ratio is irrational, so we can only write a limited number of digits.
@@petebumble6224 Ohhhh Like Pi 3.14
@@keepmovingforward5576 Yep, exactly.
the windows activation is using a volume licensing thing called kms (key management server), that's why it says it's activated using your organization's server. the laptop is on a grace period that will eventually expire and say it's not licensed - the batch file is to hit up random servers to attempt to refresh the license
dual screen on top could be good for the top extension
5:40 I cannot decide which is funnier, the fact that LTT got a fresh new Chinese gaming laptop and one of the first things they did was install Genshin Impact on it, or the fact that a Chinese gaming laptop comes pre-installed with Genshin Impact.
The activation uses cracked activation servers. There's a few really popular ones you can find by Googling, but those keys you saw are most likely default activation keys that are published by Microsoft. They're meant to be used when, for example, changing Windows from Home to Pro.
11:28 FYI "jh" stands for the Chinese word of "activation" (激活 jī huó)
I never thought I'd see the day Linus playing Genshin
15:42 thats more playable then my laptop but i usually have open browser with like 30 tabs in background so no wonder my game doesnt run that well lol😂
One thing about the magnetic accessory on the top, IBM did something very similar over 20 years ago on their ThinkPads.
The UltraPort connector supported bluetooth adapters, cameras, microphones, IR blasters and CF card slots. It only lasted a few years and was later discontinued.
That batch file is a KMS (Key Management Service) Windows Activation Script. You simulate a MS server at the backend, and then set windows via the cmd (slmgr is the command), apply a key the backend knows, and boom. You've activated Windows for free. MSGuides have a good tutorial.. you can also use PicoKMS, which also does Office Activation.. but Defender seems to obviously hate it.
2:53 who are you, Beedle from Wind Waker? 😂
"And who are we sending our fingerprints to" my thoughts exactly!!🤣🤣🤣🙌🏾
Not too bad! I think this would be a good laptop to be a linux machine.
you COULD mod it with a better cpu and stuff, for like 400$ just for the great screen and better than average keyboard, could be worth a gamble, ofc linux will go just fine but I feel like the screen and keyboard is wasted on a poor little celeron
@@cakedon and better cooling!
unironically yes
you mean "linux machine is slow PC"? Many pp use linux PC to play heavy game these day
@@ThanhThanh-it1pm Name one. Even Linus switched back to Windows after that attempt with Luke and didn't stay on it. Linux for gaming is still not here to use daily, maybe in 5-7 years.
11:36 I knew exactly what the batch file was going to be the moment I saw the name, and figured it was going to be the case when activation looked weird and said it was activated "through your organization." That batch file sets a KMS key and then uses an online KMS activation server to tell it if there are licenses available to KMS-activate Windows. Normally that is a legitimate process for organizations, but in this case (especially as it is using several online servers), it is almost 100% checking several available fake KMS servers which confirm the KMS activation is successful regardless of the device.
TL;DR It's a "Windows 10 activation" through spoofed KMS servers and is a way to avoid paying for a Windows license while still making Windows thing it is licensed.
I mean I'd just buy this computer and format it, a Windows key is 10 bucks and a Linux distro is 0
For the SSD partition, it is a common Chinese computer store practise. They install the OS on drive C: (with small space) and advise users put their files on other drives. In case the OS need to be re-installed, only Drive C: will be affected. Files on other drives will be safe.
this actually seems like a really really nice thing for uni students.
great to write, can open pdfs, nice screen that shouldn't struggle with videos and it is really bad at anything else, so people who struggle with distractions actually won't be that distracted.
It won't meet the minimum specifications that most universities require.
There are countless second hand refurbished options that are as good for that use case for less, screen won't be quite as nice but will still be more than usable. Reusing old hardware is better than buying sketchy Chinese nonsense for no reason.
If you really needed the decent enough screen though then it might be an ok option.
@@wyterabitt2149exactly you can get a 1050 ti or 1650 laptop that will murder this thing in anything
@@kmoecub what do you study that has "minimum specifications for a laptop"???
@@kmoecub
???? This laptop absolutely fits the use case for 99% of students.
This is one of your best videos because of how surprising it is
In a good way haha
Why did they blur his keys?
They have his address in case they get stolen
12:30 They may have installed the os using recovery tools of windows using a external hard disk and made it that way to save cost maybe
The choice of words in the title calling it a Brown star seems a bit off to me but seems to be a fun video. That Ethernet adapter and the free gifts :D We still use 100 mbps connections in a lot of our house but our total speed is only like 60-70 down at best. Maybe it's an issue for you guys elsewhere, especially with your gigabit+ probably NAS setup
i think brown star refers to it being sh*t
@@yatsuraboy9958 a chocolate star fish
Dirt star, a step below bronze.
A misconception in my opinion is that an Ethernet card is used for only Internet connections, or storage devices when this is not the case usually. It's the most performant, efficient, cheapest and best means of transferring data between two devices, you can plug it directly to a switch, or another laptop to copy files and games. You don't want to limit yourself to a measly 10 megabytes per second of file transfer, especially considering modern day SSD file speeds of over 330 megabytes per second for the cheapest SATA ssds. The gigabit Ethernet provides an acceptable 100 mega bytes for second, so having an slow Internet connection speed in my opinion isn't an acceptable excuse for providing customers with substandard obsolete 10/100 network cards.
> our total speed is only like 60-70 down at best
Yeah for an internet connection like that you don't really need a faster network connection. However, it is nice for your internal network, as you said if you have a NAS or even transferring files between computers.
Same for use in an office, certainly if you have a bunch of network drives you might need to access.
But considering that the targeted audience for this laptop likely isn't people using it in an office it probably is fine to do 100mbit max.
Partitioning is still useful if you want to keep your OS/apps separate from your user data (you can remap documents and other folders to a separate drive). This allows for formatting/reinstalling the OS without needing to back up/restore any personal files.
That's what I am saying... Funny thing is, Anthony recommended this in one of their videos also. 😂
It's also pretty much the standard way that computers come in China to this day. My wife's laptop has a partitioned laptop just like this, and pretty much every computer I've seen here in China that's not used by a foreigner has something similar.
Also makes a dual boot or recovery scenario much easier
i use this style of partitioning since the days of windows 95.... if i want to reinstall, i wont have to move/backup ...easy job... IF a partitions breaks , it will take down only that partition leaving other data in good shape. Plus , this is for organizing data.
can you dumb this down? i don't really understand partitioning , I bought a 1tb evo and transferred my windows and other important DATA to the SSD and then it wanted me to partition, which i tried to google but i just wasnt sure what to do and didnbt want to risk deleting my windows etc.
thanks for your time
I never knew partitioning the boot drive had _mechanical_ advantages back in the day; I thought it was just organisational
I'd love to see someone test Linux on this. For a general use laptop and dev/hacker box it's got all the important stuff. Good hires screen, decent amount of RAM, decent keyboard, and, unlike a two grand MacBook, a decent number of ports. The Intel wifi is the cherry on top.
I'd have OpenSUSE on this immediately and never even boot the default Windows 10 install.
That "activated through your organization" is actually one of the oldest tricks in the book for newer cracked Windows installations - you use an enterprise, server-activated version of Windows, then trick it into thinking it's being kept activated by a licensing server, when really it's just been activated fraudulently one time and then had the loopback pointed at the computer.
sneaky sneaky LOL
this is also one of the best ways to get regular updates and the system never detects it as a fraudulent activity
To be honest, Aliexpress has quite a lot of interesting systems these days.
I got myself a 4 x 2.5gbit ethernet, passively cooled, mini PC (also with a Celeron N5105) that I'm using as my home router.
There are also some quite quite more powerful machines out there with Ryzen CPUs.
Sure, they are somewhat sketchy, but I can't really get a PC with 4x 2.5 gbit elsewhere and it's working like a charm!
Link of minipc please?
This sounds interesting . I would like to do the same
Just search for N5105 firewall. On most product pages they sell also the N5100 a bit cheaper and for a firewall is enough and has a TDP of only 6w.
I'm waiting for one of these for my home. The first one i bought was one J4125 for my company to use as a firewall and it is amazing with pfsense with dual wan.
SSD and more than 8GB ram (12/16 GB) helps a lot with these kinds of processors.
I recently upgraded my dad's old work laptop which came with 6th gen i3 by replacing the HDD with SSD and bumping RAM to 12GB.
These two upgrades alone made his life a hell lot easier with the laptop for his office work. I was surprised too on seeing the improvement in laptop performance.
I use a 2013 MPB I upgraded with an SSD and 16 gigs of ram as my daily driver for work stuff (but not gaming), for a 10 year old device it still web surfs like a champ.
"mircosd slot" lmao
3:18 "100 Mbps by today standards is not fast"
Me with my 30 Mbps: YEAH SCREW THAT
That's network speed though no Internet, so if you had a nas or wanted to work over a lan it's limited in fact wifi would be faster even wireless N was faster at 150mb - 300mb
Yeah 99% of the time we don't really need more than 100 mbps we just got used to faster. Who even has a Nas nowadays they move large amounts of data to? Probably less than 1% of the people. I can't remember the last time when I download / played a bluray rip, must have been many years ago.
100 Mbps is slow for LOCAL transfers, you are talking about the speed of your internet connection from your ISP.
@@simonupton-millard How many people actually do that though?
@@poochyenarulez to be fair most people dont they will just use the much much faster WiFi or buy a 1gb usb3 dongal as don't think ping times will affect the gaming on that laptop unless it supports thunderbolt 😂
At 15:27 technically it has a ± symbol meaning more than OR less than 50 fps, so they weren't lying if you got less, but if you got exactly 50 fps they would be lying
And who are we sending our finger print to, had me 😆😆
2400Mhz is definitely on the slower end, but for my old Inspiron laptop with the i5-7300HQ, it's plenty enough for the memory controller on that CPU lol (not like I have a choice anyway, there's no way to use XMP or higher speed memory in the BIOS)
What about the BIOS menu? Would also be nice with a teardown to discover if there are any irregular components except the mechanical keyboard. :)