UEL HEADERS VS EL HEADERS ON 86/BRZ...WHICH IS BETTER?
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- čas přidán 31. 08. 2023
- In todays video we go over the sound and power differences between a UEL and EL header for the BRZ/86 platform. There's many differences in opinion between many car enthusiasts for the Subaru Boxer engines; however, we'll help you ease your decision by sharing our cars and opinions with you. Let us know what you think of the video and what other mods should we do to our cars. Enjoy :)
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Personally I love the rumble, and as they say:
“Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races”
You’re not wrong!👀
It's very simple. If you have a Subaru badge, UEL. If you have a Toyota badge, EL.
Maybe we should switch badges then…🤔🤔
its much simpler. do wtv you want its your car
Nah, EL regardless. UEL are less efficient.
@@hhaste "Less efficient" is a core part of the Subaru brand.
@@JETZcorpBro you killed me 😂
man the equal length sounds so much better, but then again I come from australia where fart can subarus are freaking everywhere
LMAOO They're everywhere here in the U.S. too. Even on Andrews car... ://
Nice to see you here
Awesome comparison, boys. I'm digging the whole channel hope you upload more vids. I think the next mod on my BRZ will be UEL headers. I heard the first gen Tomei UEL headers will fit on the second gen so I am planning on that. Hopefully it will sound good with my HKS exhaust!
We’re glad you liked the video, it really means a lot to us! We’ve heard that Tomei Uel plus Hks exhaust sounds really good so we hope to hear your car when you get it installed!
Thanks for the video i think im gonna go EL now for sure after watching this video couldnt decide..
Of course! Glad we could help you decide. Great choice either way going with EL headers, they’re definitely the better option (yes yes this is Andrew saying this)
Good video! really great comparison. Really appreciate the clip for the race between the first Gen. I personally like the sound from both manifolds but I do prefer the top end sound of the EL headers. I used to own a Civic SI and it reminded me of that lol.
Thank you bro, we really appreciate the love and are glad you enjoyed the video! The EL header really is a unique taste for these cars and we’re glad you love it too🖤🖤
i like the EL sound better its more crisp but that's just me
I agree 100% with you - (Definitely Andrew)
EL sounds way better for these cars. I feel like the rumble is something that's characteristic to the WRX and only really fits that car. Not to mention that the power increases matter more up top rather than in the middle of the rev range.
This guy is speaking facts! - (Totally Andrew)
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@@romariosmith422 Lol? Which part.. because everything he said is true.
@@hhaste some people just can't handle the facts...aka Andrew... ://
Tell that to the owners of forester, impreza, and legacy.
I appreciate the comparison video. I see why some would like the EL headers but my preference is definitely for the UEL.
Of course! Totally agree with your preference on the UEL headers, I think they sound so much nicer than EL, but that’s just me (Derek, totally not Andrew) :)
This might be the best EL vs UEL comparison video I've seen. Although I still don't know which i wanna go with lol
Thank you lots! Glad you enjoyed our video and were able to learn something from it! Personally I think you should go with the UEL just for that amazing classic subie rumble but that’s just my (totally Derek) opinion.
EL is the only correct choice.
Amazing video! Now I know the difference between UEL and EL headers! I think that I am leaning more towards the UEL headers for my GR86! Keep up the great work💯🔥🔥🔥
Glad you enjoyed the video! I 100% agree with your choice on the UEL headers, they're definitely better than the EL ones. (this is totally derek saying this)
yeah same, I'm pretty sure UEL on the FA24 gives more torque than EL... which imo is more important than top end HP, dont wanna peaky engine
@@NinoInTheComments We're glad you enjoyed the video as well! The UEL does give more torque in the lower rpm range however, the EL header gives more power to the higher rpm range which is most important for track/canyon runs. In the end UEL is better for daily driving whereas EL is better for pushing your car to its limits :)
@@carantix true, just gotta be in control of the rev ranges right 😂😂
@@NinoInTheComments I just don't want my car to blow up so I cant constantly be in the high rev range... -Andrew
Me , i would go with for the UEL , thanks for the comparison , btw man that dude got the moves down , good stuff
I agree with you! I really regret and wish that I went down the UEL path instead of EL - (Definitely Derek)
Also, you're welcome for the comparison video! We have many more comparison videos to come in the future, as well as Derek's fortnite dance moves!
couple questions on the gr86. are the uel headers catted or catless? did you get a tune right away after installing the uel headers? also if you didn't tune the car right away did you have any issues with check engine lights or anything? i have a 2023 brz and id like to get the jdl uel catted headers but I haven't been able to find a ton of information on tuning vs not tuning so I'm a little hesitant
The headers are catted and there were no issues running it without a tune. Zero check engine lights so you should be good as long as they’re catted. Catless you would most likely need a defouler for the O2 sensor. The tune mostly just helps utilize the power you can gain from the headers but if you’re going for mostly sound the uels by themselves are worth it!
My advice = get the parts and install them all at once and get a tune at the same time. Peace of mind, extra power and safer.
UEL for sure was almost tempted to go with EL skunk2 header but nah decided to get the uel Xforce header
YESSIR! you know what’s up and I totally agree with you on your decision to go with UEL - yes I am Derek
I have EJ204 NA engine on SG Facelift Forester streetcar . For NA engine which header is better for performance / fuel efficiency ? EL stock header or UEL header ?
That's a really sick car bro! For headers, we'd recommend getting a UEL header as any aftermarket header would be better than stock power wise, plus at least for our cars, we experienced very minimal drops in mpg when we put our headers on. Whichever is more important to you to be honest. Also, we would definitely recommend hitting the forums for better information though because in the end this is just our opinions.
Ok the rumble is great on th uel and u live it but the fly-by of the elh is amazing like now im divide with which one to get... maybe its just the mufflers or something
The fly by really does sound good 😂😂
That got me too
I got el headers installed about a week ago, garage told me that the el headers just make more power end of. Uel is just for sound and less power overall
This is very true what the garage told you! Which el headers did you install btw?
I like the sound of the EL better but I like more torque at low rpm.
You’re stuck between going with sound or power now haha 😂
ACE A350 is your way to go
I can't choose! I want the sound and the power! But to be fair they both sound cool in their own right. So do the EL headers do make more high end power?
Yeah, we were stuck as well when deciding between the two! The EL headers do make more high end power depending on which brand of headers you buy which does in the end help beat out UEL versions of the same BRZ, FRS, and 86’s :)
You will also have to get tuned to see the major differences however though!
There’s a tri Y headers where you get the best of both worlds
@@reydominicluciano5950 Tri Y??? That sounds sick!!! What brand makes that header?
What brand of EL headers do you have?
The EL header is a JDL 4-2-1 catless
@@carantix are you running a AM front pipe?
The brz currently has a stock front pipe, might change soon 👀
This NA 2 liter doesnt move enough air to really feel any difference between the two headers. Its why you really only see minimal gains its mostly in the torque dip. When you boost the car then you will see a much more dramatic difference between the two header styles. UEL for the low end rumble during everyday driving. If your someone chasing peek power from your boosted set up then EL all the way
This is very true, you’ll see majority of the gains when turbod but the brz with El headers did outperform a frs with Uel headers while NA. So it’s still worth it for some people chasing NA power over sound
Can you give the links to the headers?
They're just jdl 4-2-1 el headers on the brz, and jdl catted uels on the gr86
With the UEL are you able to pass SMOG and did you need a tune for it? I am just curious and love the subie rumble
Unfortunately with Cali laws, any aftermarket headers wont pass a smog test, so over here most likely it wont pass. In regards to the tune, you don't necessarily need a tune for the uel headers; however, we would definitely recommend it for the performance gains that you can get. Also, the only mod you will likely need for a gr86 if you upgrade the headers to uel catless is a defouler which helps to keep check engine lights from popping up.
Dang… that UEL sounds so much better under 5k, but the EL sounded way better at that high rpm fly by
I wish we could have the best of both worlds :(((
I just took off of my uniquely landers because I didn’t like the sound. It sounds way too loud for that car.
You should get some JDL's instead, they're amazing!
Give me the SMOOOOTH RASP anyday, Power and Quality. Lumpy doesnt do anything for me unless its V8 or V10 or V12!
That’s a bold statement my guy!👀👀
UEL Bro!!!
Hell yeah! My name is Derek and I totally agree bro!
EL just cus we got same gen and color
Why do you have to be biased like that? Lol jkjk love to hear your thoughts!
They both sound OK
Cammed Ls sounds better…
Longtube EL > short tube
Ace Header for the win 🥇
@@mresab1997 nah, 4-2-1 JDL Header ftw!
@@carantix except it doesn’t win, especially when paired with a forced induction kit. The JDL is less volumetrically efficient
@@mresab1997 send the links for proof and ill go ace instead in a future video 👀
@@carantixno can do. While the data that Ace has far more area under the curve and volumetric efficient than any header on the market, you can’t get your hands on the original A350’s anymore. The newly revised units aren’t the same as the original, and perform to a lesser degree. Still excellent however (and probably still superior). I’m unsure if FA24 applications for it as well.
I happen to have the very last production unit (sealed new) of the A350 in a dual ceramic ‘CSG Spec’ coating on it, with the Ace front pipe (also dual coated). I will let it go to only the right buyer if anyone feels the desire to reach out.
ELH sounds better
it sounds best on a k24 😂😂
UELs or ELs for the K24?
@@carantix they are similar but UEL is best
@@dancearoundtheworld5360 We agree!
You are comparing a turbo and non turbo car though so different base sound even without changing the headers
Who has the turbo?😂😂
@@carantixah my bad, it’s the new GR86 that’s turbocharged 🤟
@@ryanwilkins3206 Got you! Hopefully it does come out turbod, we'd love to see it!
@@carantix will be awesome if it does… it’s the only thing it’s missing currently
@@ryanwilkins3206 literally!