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- čas přidán 30. 05. 2023
- Today I take a look at the Heatkiller S series radiators which just might be the most beautiful radiator on the market!
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2:07 - YES PLEASE. An up to date head to head comparison of rad performance would do wonders, especially with these modern components running hot.
This! Please
on the topic, if this happens some small itx rads should also be included
Probably a couple of degrees apart like they all are 😂
Please Jay. We need some performance comparisons. Xtremerigs did the best but stopped doing it years ago
All rads are within a few degrees of one another and the more rads you have, the less the difference becomes. HOWEVER... Watercool rads are just higher quality than anything else out there. The finish is more durable and more premium than EK/HWL/Corsair/Alphacool and even things like the stainless steel screws are a step up. So, it's not just performance to consider.
Watercool is the brand, Heatkiller is the product line. Great products.
Sat here screaming at the TV "IT'S WATERCOOLING YOU BUFFOON!!!", it's a proper pet peeve of mine and if he's been an admirer of them for so long he should know that. My absolute favourite watercooling brand, total metal pron. 🤤
Also describing aquacomputer as a boutique brand is a joke. Been around a long long time, make a shed load of gear, make THE best fan controllers of all time, continue to innovate with stuff like the leakshield.
@@MakinComputers Watercool, not watercooling. Also 'boutique brand' means low volume high end products. Very fitting for Aquacomputer who indeed have high quality and low supply.
@@varmastiko2908 god dam auto correct. 🙄 Aquacomputer is not a boutique brand at all. Their stuff is sold everywhere, just look at the number of different CPU block models they make, it's mental. Just because they don't churn out as much volume as ek, which have only recently emerged as the market leader, doesn't mean they automatically become boutique. Boutique would be proper limited run stuff like optimus
@@MakinComputers 🤓
yikes. bit of a miss there.
Nice to see some Heatkiller stuff on here.
Given the fact that EK seems to be moving into the higher pricepoint, it is about time to show them what they're up against.
BUT, their quality is unmatched especially when it comes to a dedicated waterloop. (EKWB)
@@DanielFrost79 Had two EK GPU blocks get a crack. Never happend with Heatkiller or phanteks.
@@DanielFrost79 Almost unmatched in negative customer reviews it would seem. They have a history of a lot of variation in quality.
@@DanielFrost79 Cant tell if trolling or not, EK quality pails in comparison to Heatkiller or Optimus lol
@@DanielFrost79HardwareLabs is better
FYI, you can purchase the Heatkiller Badge (little metal plate) separately, so even if you bend it you can replace it 🙂
you can just take the white pieces off and swap them over. jay tried to flip the piece then put it back on the same side lol. if he put it on the other side it wouldve worked.
@@XenonArcher exactly what I was thinking. Hopefully Jay figured that out before grabbing the heat gun.
@@XenonArcherlipping the brackets would put the notches for the fittings on the wrong side wouldn’t it? It doesn’t seem to have notches on the other end. Also the over all dimensions are asymmetrical so you would have to tap new holes or cut about a half inch off the white sides after you flip it. He even mentioned this after he brought up the heat gun.
@@claudetesh1265 I think they mean, you take the left piece and put it on the right side. But I also don't think this would work because I think there was only one relief cut for the fitting on the decorative side panel so it can only be mounted one way.
@@XenonArcher This. I was cringing.
i realized that if you can take those side panels off you should be able to swap the sides. so if the fitting side is facing you swap the left and right side covers not spin them from front to back.
The side without the fittings doesn't have the curved bit, but I don't think that would be an issue.
I had the same thought, but 14:49
@@benfowler2127 i know he tried just flipping them over. i was saying change the sides each one is on. so based in its current orientation in the video the front side panel on the rear side of the radiator and the rear side panel on the front side of the radiator.
@@jonnas1977 Ah, I guess I didn’t realize he only flipped them end for end and not side to side. My bad.
@@benfowler2127 all good.
You can get anodized aluminum washers for use with those types of countersunk screws on flat surfaces. They come in all different colors and can add a classy touch to your fasteners. Theyre commonly used in RC cars.
yeah they would bling it up nicely.
Was looking for this comment. I knew I could not be the only person screaming "Washers!" at the screen
@@stephen1r2 Yeah I was shocked that Jay didn't seem to know about them. Even regular washers would work, just wouldn't look as clean.
I am pretty sure it is intended to use rubber isolation washers for vibration reduction
@@CodyDavey no reason one couldn't use both. Although if we are talking about intent, why then did the manufacturer not include rubber washers?
I'm really not into water cooling, but your enthusiasm carries it for me. It's interesting to hear a knowing person talk about something they are genuinely interested it 😊
Love the watercooling stuff from Jay, reason I started watching the channel and got into it myself. More please!
Love the watercooling content. Just made my first watercooled build thanks to all your helpful videos.
YES, pump out the water cooling videos please! I would also be interested in an retrospective history of water cooling from someone who has been doing it for 20 years. Currently working on older hardware builds and there is surprising little hands-on info out there to follow.
I love the watercooling content! You are the reason I was able to do my first custom loop last month!!
I used Aquacomputer parts for my first cooling loop and it’s amazing how well it is made and I basically never bought any other brand. I use the radiator, pump and reservoir up until this day and bought it in early 2009 with a GTX 295. Those were very interesting times for enthusiasts.
Yeah man! I also try to use Aquacomputer products whenever possible in my builds. My current build has an Aquaero 6XT, 2 - Ultitube 150 reservoirs, 2 - D5 PWM Pump, 2 of their new Leakshield units, 2 - flow sensors, Farbwerx lighting controllers, and various other pieces like temp sensors etc
I just bought 3 of these for my first watercooling build because I loved their look, and was really impressed with their finish. And confident in the German engineering behind them and the other components from Watercool and Aquacomputer I got
Jay, by far, my favorite water cooling enthusiast. I hope one day all the information he's provided to be used in my first custom water cooling venture.
Always look forward to your custom water builds.
Thanks, Jay!!
What I love about o11e is how many stuff you can fit in there. I'm runing two 44mm 360 and one 44mm 280, and the back can probably fit a 120 too.
Hello Jay, YES I like this type of content. A deeper look into materials is always interesting.
Keep up the good work. Respect !
Hands down some of the best cooling stuff, love my MORA 420, it is pure quality and the performance is insane.
I'm using the Heatkiller pump/res in my new build. Full glass reservoir, which not only feels like good quality, but I believe it will last being non-reactive to dyes and such.
Watercool (the brand that makes the Heatkiller line of products), seems to be very function first (they also make industrial-grade products), but I really like their form as well.
good one Jay, really appreciate these detailed reviews of each component especially water cooling feautures. Look forward to the step by step assembly or your new build and
i'm going to do my first custom cooling build later this year. I'd love to see some more informative watercooling videos like this!
Good seeing you back dude. Keep up the good work J & Team!
I am not that familiar with watercooling stuff. If I was to make my next build right now, I would have went with EK stuff for watercooling but I am so glad to learn of this brand. I appreciate the exploration of all the different brands of watercooling. This really is a damn beautiful rad.
Wow you brought me back mentioning all those brands. I remember having an Aquacomputer Kryos Next w/ vision cpu block. mmm loved it. I'm an alphacool fanboy specifically cross flow rads. I havent used a conventional flow rad in years.
Thanks for the vid!
It's nice to see you back on the camera Jay!
Use some of those plastic washers (the ones used to protect mobo from CPU mount) for the radiator screws! They won't damage your case paint, and can provide some vibration isolation.
7:55 what you call a tapered head, is also known more commonly as "countersunk" and more used for woodwork applications.
11:30 they need washers
As a machinist we call them flat-head screws, inch are 82 degree countersink and metric are 90 degree. What Jay was calling flat-head can either be called button head or pan head depending on the shape. I normally work with socket head cap screws. And the countersink washers are very nice to have.
I have an Aphacool 360x60 white rad and it is a very nice finish. Not changed colour in the 2 years I had it so good paint finish imo and the heat transfer is adequate to my needs. The Alphacool screws are very good quality , have disassembled the pc 4 or 5 times and they still have great thread and cross , also a little small and at times only pinch one side to help grip but there are 16 of them so it stays in place.
I've been looking at a bunch of the Heatkiller products lately and a lot of it seems REALLY nice.
This is why I’ve already used their Heatkiller 360-L Stainless Steel series for my build months ago!
Good to see you healthy and back on camera :)
Please keep up the water cooling videos! The water cooling and custom cases content is what sets you apart from the rest of the tech community
Appreciate this feature video of Watercool and their Heatkiller products. I'm using their reservoir, CPU and GPU cool as well as der monster radiator (MoRa). Great quality and cooling performance!
I have those radiators in my recent 7950x and 7900 xtx build, 1 360 and 1 480. They perform very well for me!
Love the Watercooling content, and the Build content.
Glad you are back!
hey jay! i dont know if youll see this but in automotive debadging they use fishing line to peel off the badges, that might work with the radiator sticker
Thanks Jay. I do enjoy this content.
Nice to see back !!
I used a Heat Killer Pro iv on my last build, they definety are worth a look at. In my area of Ontario our local store stocked them... I tried them, the performance is there.
The reason the fan holes are slotted is for ease of alignment/assembly.
Also, I use washers to fix the issue of small screws and larger holes
I just used EK's rads and took them apart to vinyl wrap the side pieces. So you can do that as well if paint isn't your thing. I used 3M ghost pearl.
Great fun video! Also loved the water block video!
14:50 thats exactly what i was thinking the whole time you were talking about heating the badge and putting it upside down lol
Pretty much enjoying the water cooling content that don't involve clogging AiOs!
I got the black version. Very reasonable and gorgeous
Would love to see more reviews of Watercool Heatkiller products. I think their waterblocks look awesome.
The holes are there in the side of the shroud because they probably used to have a badge that was riveted on, but more recently went to one that uses adhesive instead.
That’s a nice rad. Yes more watercooling stuff! Performance comparison on rads would be great! Nobody has done one in years. Ek s came out on top, Igors lab did it.
My MoRa disagrees
I also like Koolance liquid cooling parts. I have been using them for years, their build quality is really good. I have the housing for the D5 pump I have never had a problem with it. I always wanted to try one of their plate heat exchangers but I don't think they even make them anymore.
I’m enjoying the water cooling. Thank you!
Always wanted to use Heatkiller stuff too. Had to go with a hardware labs black ice gts 240 X flow to fit a certain path need for the tubes in my build and man is it a great radiator for its size too
Omg heatkiller! ❤❤❤ thank you for looking at something not ek for once
I've used cone shaped screws with both alphacool, hwlabs, and ek rads with multiple brands of fans with no problem, granted they had slightly larger heads. Nice thing is they look more flush
Nice although my last loop is all EK except for fittings I think I'll give Heatkiller a shot on the next one.
I remember them from back in the day and they were expensive but I guess we have EK's high prices to thank for bringing down the price of their competition...
If you were to rotate the sides along the LONG axis of the radiator, ie right side to left and left side to right, the name plates will be right side up for your application
And there I was this morning asking about your thoughts on Heatkiller cpu blocks.
I am really enjoying your content @JayzTwoCents Glad to see you are mending well!
I love the look and performance of the newer EK Quantum Surface radiators. I went with Two EK QS X480M radiators in my Corsair 1000D. You also have to remember that most of EK products are made in Europe rather than being outsourced to China, like the majority of water cooling companies do.
This is great Jay!
Good to see you making videos where it all started with your channel. Cooler Master seems to have some new radiators with a much more aggressive fin density (saw it on a Computex 2023 video). Would be of great value if you made a video comparing the benefits of radiator brands, material used, sizes, girth (that's what she said :D) and see who comes out on top.
I'd use some of my massive collection of hardware to use slightly larger and longer screws, get a nice set of connectors (in silver and black) like mine, comes in real handy all the time.
Yes! its aquacomputer stil useing my aquastream(pump) which i bought 13 years ago! which is a modified Eheim pump but it stil works Great!
i have 2 of these in my new build (3 months now) and i could easily remove the heatkiller icon with just my fingernails, they fit perfect into my white/silver build
always love watching water cooling vids ! so yes pls.
DUDE!!! Your teaser clips weren't kidding!!!I can't wait to see you completely geek out on a new iCUE Link custom water cooled build! All those temp sensors in every component will keep you experimenting for HOURS! And let's not forget all the new info SCREENS!
I just bought 2 of their _sort of_ square aluminum and glass D5 reservoirs... genuinely the best reservoirs I've ever seen.
I have a heatkiller res and MoRa3-420 fantastic stuff. I was a bit scared of the glass res but its way thicker than I expected, I expected the thickness of drink class, not nearly the 5mm it is.
my first custom watering cooling back in like 2001 or 2002 I used a heater core for a car as my radiator.
I feel like some tapered dressup washers would be a good idea to include in the kit
I have two heatkiller waterblocks for my GPUS. One for my 2080super, and one for my 6800xt. Love them! Do more heatkiller products. They're beautiful
Watercool is a great company. I love the performance, quality and looks of their products. German watercooling products are nice. Aquatuning afaik is only a reseller. I visited their headquarters a few times to pick up parts. I would get some extra screws because I would be worried the rad getting loose from the vibration over time
Very interested in the temps when you're done with this one, I'm running EKWBs old coolstream series right now since it was on clearance, but I really wanted either Nemesis line or heatkiller!
That looks so nice, I need to catch back up on your build videos. About the screws, is not possible to find longer ones that would fit and maybe a different screw head?
They do make a small "Comb" toll to straighten radiator fins and the like..... Used in Automotive and home heating and cooling applications usually, but I would bet they would work on computer rads as well.
Welcome back Jay
The Fans holes being elliptical or slotted, there is a good chance they designed that so when you connect them and try to line them up with different brands of radiators and panels that you will be able to align the screws. When holes are perfect circles, it makes it difficult to account for other variables such as other brand radiator holes. And if you have 12 holes to worry about instead of 4 it becomes much more difficult when aligning. So the slotted/elliptical holes are for ease of use for the customer.
Welcome back, Jay! Glad to see you're up and at'em (do people even still use that phrase??)
I'd LOVE to see you taking a look into the Aqua Computer ecosystem. I can't build systems without the D5 Next, Octo etc. anymore.
Used 4 of these for a client in a 1000D. They are amazing build quality. Love Watercool stuff if not sometimes frustrating because Germans
Nice rads! I've only used AlphaCool and EK in the past but I would consider these for sure. The small heads on the screws would worry me though!
Jay on point, continue water cooling and product reviews. Also can you do a GLASS TUBE BUILD/ HOW TOO ,
Have a 240 one in my Ghost S1 build. Tis a good product
Use floss to pull through under it Jay. It can work as a fine blade to detach tape.
9:05 The holes are oblong to support more radiators. Some radiators have the mounting holes at 16mm on center and other have them at 15mm.
Fishing line works good for getting badges off without damaging them.
Love the water cooling content - MOAR :D
The holes are oblong to compensate for low tolerance or cheaply made cases and other products. It will allow to to better positioning of the three connected fans without increasing the diameter of the screw you need.
I would love to see an updated comparison of a collection of radiators.
Or
A comparison of external radiator setups/an updated sp vs af fan + rad combos.
i have a heatkiller 250 tube(borosilicate glass) res. i love their quality, though for rads i have gone with Primochill for years.
@Jay, you can flip them! Just swap the plate onto the opposing side.
Looks good!
I like EK fittings but I avoided their blocks when they had the issue with nickel plating flaking on.
Welome back Jay.
You can, in fact, flip the side rails around. Take the one for the left side and put it on the right, and vice versa.
That'll flip the logo over while still maintaining the screw spacing.
12:24 use the handy-dandy lid to the multibit kit, which is a parts tray. or ifixit has anti-static parts trays for cheap, which I find much more useful than the magnetic one.
Use a small suction cup (or two) to lift lift the badge.
Love Keathiller.
Like the color design.
If the badges are the same orientation on the side rails, you can just swap the rails if you want to mount the rad upsidedown.
you can get a reverse cone washer that will have a cone the screw goes into, and a flat bottom and they come in different color's lot of times they are stainless or aluminum and sold at Rc car places.