I can’t believe this worked - Pool Water Cooling (janky)
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It's been a long time coming, but after being moved into Linus' new house we are finally making his ridiculous dream come true. We are watercooling a PC using his pool. That's right, even the hottest components like the Intel Core i9-13900K or the RTX 4090 will be easily cooled by the sheer amount of water. But can we cool Linus' hubris? Also, is this actually going to work?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
0:51 The Plan
5:09 Doing Something about the water
6:40 Connecting the water lines
12:22 It leaks
13:12 Connecting Continued
16:08 Test Run
21:43 PC Temps
26:00 Outro - Věda a technologie
LTT and DIYPerks both doing a pool-water cooled PC within an hour of each other - priceless.
Hah I just came here from that vid. What are the chances.
Same
@@user-yo6xb6ud6d DIY Perks wins this one for me. It's genius and looks amazing as always.
Super weird but I'm here for it
same
Linus: Lets buy a new house.
Yvonne: Great idea. Finally no more janky setups.
Linus: Lets water cool the pc with the pool.
Canadians tend to be more yonky than yanky.
"Brrr... the pool is cold. Hit it with the prime95!"
@@GordonChilbetter yet, do crypto mining on them.
@@rysterstechWell if you must heat the pool then that would actually be quite smart compared to resistive heating.
@@rysterstech That might brick the pool heater- sorry, the gpu
I highly recommend a moisture sensor/alarm on the lowest part of your floor so when this leaks, you have a chance to fix it before a small mess becomes huge.
I foresee a video titles "I flooded my server room" in the near future
@linustechtips you should
I notice you said "when" rather than "if".
@@steingat I don't foresee much in the near future
@@jjlortez Thankfully, fortune-reading is not a real science
Alex and Linus cooling shenanigans is my favorite series.
nice
We've graduated from Linus dropping PCs to straight up throwing them into pools
here before this blows up
Now we need him to drop it into lava
69th like
He now drops himself too as a free bonus
lasang
I love how quickly this went from completely organized to sketchy and "temporary "
Did you watch till the end. It was a effing success!
I read this comment as the video reached 11:48 😬😬
@@jjann54321 he probably just didn't get enough time to do the research for all of that, only had half a day after all.
Or how if Linus just googled "rear door heat exchanger" he could cool the whole rack and not need waterbocks on every piece of equipment! Watercooled racks are a thing...
LTT will single-handedly be responsible for changing the definition of the word "temporary"
Linus slowly turning over and going, “noooo” after being thrown a towel at the end was hilarious 😂
It was funny but let's not get ahead of ourselves, here
Linus & Alex together is basically summed up with the thing they said in this video, and pretty much all of their videos together.
“This isn’t the best way to do this at all, it might turn out badly”
In unison “Let’s do it”.
Gotta love the chemistry between these two. It’s always an amazing watch when this duo teams up for some mayhem.
It's still far better to fail at the ideal then to succeed as the moderate or as we say in Canada "it's farm good!"
As a boiler guy I am happy about this project. For the final install you may want to incorporate a couple things.
1-Get the heat exchanger. For an application like this you almost require it for permanent operation.
2- You will need a expansion tank for the pool/glycol loop. your server loop can be open loop and not need glycol or any real pressure.
3- install a axiom (or equivalent) tank for the pool/glycol side to maintain your glycol/pressure without needing to add back flow prevention. (add a vacuum breaker to that hose connection in the basement)
4- size the pump correctly, unsure of what you have at the moment but a grundfos 15-58 is a good pump for single loop applications without going overboard a 26/99 has better head pressure but has way to much flow for a single 3/4' loop and will kill it's self way to early.
5- I use glycol as a generic term. Recommend getting rid of that automotive glycol and picking up a polypropylene based glycol (with inhibitor) from the same supplier you got your fittings. with ethylene/ automotive coolant leaks pets and animals can die if they drink it. side note you need at least a 20% glycol mix to prevent algae growth but more that 30% you will have to up size pumps to overcome the extra viscosity.
Agreed. You need an HX and a quality glycol with the proper corrosion inhibitor package.
This is like Chines for me, but you seem to know your thing, so nice comment ^^
Why the heat exchanger tho?
@@crowman6330to exchange the heat, I am smart.
@@crowman6330 The Loop from the Pool (the one with the Stinky Water) will NEVER be clean (even if you use Chemicals against Bacteria/microorganisms) and you need AntiFreeze (Glycol) for it to not freeze in the Winter.
Dirty Water and AntiFreeze are NOT what you supposed to use in your PC Loop. It will block all the MicroFins over time.. Slow at first but the Longer it runs the Muddy Water, the more Muddy it will get and the faster it will block them.
The Exchanger is a 2 Path system to split the Loop in 2 Loops, one with muddy Water for the Pool Loop and the one with clean water and without antifreeze for the PC.
So it dissapates the Heat from the PC Loop into the Pool Loop and takes the Cooling from the Pool Loop into the PC Loop, thats why its called "Exchanger" ;)
The fact that Linux uploaded this on the same day as DIY Perks and his submersible PC (A PC which uses a pond to cool itself) Is fascinating.
ooh, there's a new diy perks? NEXT UP!!!!
They also did the desk PC on the same day
On the same day? Try ON THE SAME HOUR!
Proof that we live in a simulation lol
DIY perks video is better imho
The "Hey don't splash my shoes" would've been a great segway to Vessi
Some major "whole room water cooling" flashbacks from the second house studio, and the jank hasn't aged a day. Great fun!
What I love about these janky videos is that we are guaranteed to have a second video on the same subject, but now done by professionals.
That rock is still in the system, shouldn't be too long before _some_ kind of update will be needed
Oh you don't even have to wait, fiyperks released a vid on the same concept literally an hour later
@@ShayanQ not the same concept at all
yeah bring on plumbing Brian
the fact they didn't do a heat exchanger is crazy
You should DEFINITELY do a heat exchanger. The blocks would get gummed up with no time, like with whole-room water cooling.
Isn't it weird that almost at the exact same time DIYperks published a video of him building a pc that submerges under water and uses said water for heat exchanger?
He will do a filter instead.
@@Helveteshit Filters get clogged as well.
@@MiGujack3 Filters are a lot easier to clean or replace than cleaning water blocks
And glycol will most likely gum up the fins in the water blocks. Separating the loop water from the computer loop. Computer loop can be nice clean distilled water and the other loop can be full of impurities and glycol without any worries. Fins in the heat exchanger might eventually get dingy and need a wash but it will be better than all the water blocks needing to be changes
Glad Jake brought up the heat exchanger to keep the cooling water to the system clean.
Can't wait for the I killed my cooling block video.
Keep up the crazy ideas guys.
3:30 Linus' face trying to swallow that news was perfect
I love the duality of Alex being there smiling excited to work on anything and then there’s Jake who is very knowledgeable and trying to get it done so he can move on with his day
I always knew waterlogging my tech wasnt stupid and it actually was innovative
Schrödinger's mid tower PC
@@kaylons🎉bpsbpdps
You might want a a dual water loop chiller. It takes heat from one loop and puts it into the other using a refrigeration compressor and keeps the water in both loops separated
Jake's foreshadowing at 11:25 is craaaaaaaazy
Yvonne:"Let's warm up the pool"
Linus: *Proceeds to run benchmark on every computer in the house*
Inbefore he moves ten editors into the garage and hooks them up.
Nah, he just tells the kids its minecraft time..
Pool : gained 0.000000000000001°C
@@JimRichardHartmann😂
LTT: "I can’t believe this worked"
15.6M subscribers: "Neither can we"
I had forgotten about this project. I'm glad they could make it work - nice! 🙂
Damn their sub growth is that stagnant? 9 months later, and they're still at 15.6 million...
I love that this and DIY Perks's submersible pc came out the same day.
24:55 please make more videos of this medium term planning you are doing here. I really like this project!
You should do a heat exchanger like Jake said to. The water is going to be so gross and will cake the water blocks in nastiness.
If they can manage to clean the loop, it is completely closed. I don't see an issue with a simple filter for things that get missed in a proper full purge.
It's a closed loop, no? Why would it get gross.
Bacteria is the PVC and the water.
@@capralmarines4043 Exactly :) Closed loop with NON-distilled tap water. If they don't apply some sort of antibacterial agents, the water is be nasty.
They need distilled water. Distilled water is less corrosive, less viscous, and contains fewer microorganisms but for safe is better add biocide and a corrosion inhibitor to the water.
You can always count on any video with Alex being janky. And I'm all here for this.
Same. When they kinda stopped with the janky videos for a bit, and I was quite sad. They've ramped them up in recent months, and I am loving it.
Jank is the way of live
"this is one of the worst things we've done in a while" I love when even Alex admits this
I'm so glad that Linus doesn't give him more time to prepare. We want the JAAAAANK!
00:05 that kick is awesome i will see in loops 😂😂😂 another meme on the line
I just love watching alex jake and linus doing stuff like this together😂
Process water engineer here. Whatever filter you’re using needs to have tighter tolerances than the water blocks. A typical 20 mesh strainer won’t cut it.
Highly recommend using that heat exchanger with a DI loop for your rack. If you really want the massive thermal reservoir then get a small buffer tank. It’ll be just as effective and much easier to maintain.
Yep, needs a heat exchanger.
And im sure you could partner with a 3D metal printer firm that might have been at LTX? And print a funky all copper gyroid heat exchanger
A heat exchanger is overkill for him as an operator. It’s much more practical to just periodically replace the water cooling components. He’d replace them periodically anyway.
@@aa-lp1ho As long as "periodically" doesn't mean once per month; which it might with the current amount of gunk potential with this length of a loop and these pipes.
It is a closed loop system, why would it need constant filtration?
For future reference: any time you connect your water to a pipe or hose outside your house, you need a backflow prevention. This stops the nasty water from the pipes from getting sucked back into the house and contaminating your clean water.
UPDATE: I'm referring to the main water supply that he hooked up to the dirty pipe outside to flush it, not the loop.
THANK YOU!!!! Watching this video gave me a bunch of anxiety because of that.
I would use at least one heat exchanger for decoupling the system.
wouldn't installing a simple replaceable water filter do the job?
@@alfredovasquez774idk about for backflow but here in America you absolutely need a backflow otherwise they would make Linus rip that all out and restart
*Edit correction to my statement it's only if you connect to public water your own private stuff is your business
I doubt this would be a direct hook up to mains, it is more likely to have a closed loop with a filling stop tap like the central heating side of a combination boiler.
these are my new favourite type of videos from you guys. continue these crazy ideas!
So I’ve worked on a test rack before for different water cooled equipment where we used a manifold to distribute coolant to multiple devices. If y’all go forward with that, I would recommend using a PLC and a flow meter that will automatically power down your PCs in the event the pump fails or there’s a blockage preventing flow. Just an idea! Awesome video!
Being a guy that builds pools and is a plumber this is both amazing and hard to watch. I'm glad it worked lol
Professional plumber and heating engineer - the pain is real.
Am I wrong in thinking that large quantity of water did not get in past the caps? Either they left it uncovered for quite some time, or theres a crack or other leak in the lines. After finding that water in there I would probably decide to use those lines as a chase to run new pex rather than run my actual cooling medium through them
Talk about over complicating a simple single zone loop!
I also watched a few CZcams videos about this, and it's amazing how bad of a job they did.
@@YagiChanDan Heat Engineer, lol. Let me guess you live in California?
Jake's face when Linus told him they're ditching the heat exchanger is priceless
The chemistry between Linus and Alex is priceless. And of course Jake. Lol.
Was just thinking about this a few weeks ago. Great video, really appreciated the math on the heat transfer as well
Biological ladder is the best dad joke ever. The bewilderment on Alex's face is the best part. 😂
You know its going to be a fun video when Alex is the planner
yeah when Alex is involved its always chaos and I love it. I love how Linus just lets him do w.e too it makes for great content lol
Alex is the shit ngl
The man's given up trying to make a heat sink and skipped straight to turning a pool into an AIO
What kind of monster doesn't prime the PVC pipe before adding the glue to it 😮
Some people hate Alex tho, claiming he's too janky to be an engineer.
This is awesome! Glad your going to use a plumbing Manifold when you hook up more systems. I would look at your temperature delta for your pool and what you want your server room temps at, for the radiator. A comfortable swimming pool is 80-87 degrees F. Unless your server room is already warmer than that, i wouldn't bother with a radiator. Your water cooling is going to be wicked good in the winter, be careful with the above ground pipes freezing if you have extended cold snap below freezing.
I almost didn't watch thinking they actually 'cooled' a pc in a pool. This is a very cool video! Love tech home upgrades and automation. More videos about Linus's home.
What I am most impressed with this video is that Alex actually used his education to calculate the energy require for this system. Incredible.
Casually ignoring Bernoulli's though.
@@cardinalbear How would Bernoulli's change anything?
@@cardinalbear The only thing Alex ignored is that the tubes dont have insulation meaning they are getting cooled by the ground as well as the pool
@@robertjusic9097 weeell and using ℃ for a temperature delta.. but oh well
@@robertjusic9097 To be fair, he said "ignoring losses". Obviously the enormous surface of a fucking pool is a loss, but I think he just wanted to prove a point, and it worked.
As a plumber/ pipe fitter of 22 + years I spent this whole video laughing my ass off and yelling at my monitor ( Oh god pls don't do that don't use that fitting , no that's the the wrong application )
Great vid guys are crazy .
Yeah, that "plumbing" was so wrong at many levels. Hire an expert next time. 😂
Heating Engineer & Plumber of 12 years and this video just had me laughing.
Also something that was never mentioned, lagging the pipes in the in the house would greatly help in dumping the heat outside of the house and not having the pipes work as makeshift radiators. Come to think of it that was one of the major issues on their very first whole room water cooling video as well.
Everyone has to learn at some point that you can't tape a hose 😂
Job weld water weld hahah
Linus doing the rounds on Blue Collar/Techie Crossover Comedy, the duo you would never expect or believe to work well lmak
"Oh there is a rock in my loop!"
Rock vibin its way straight into the pump..
You could replace all that soft clear hose line with Alkathene pipe otherwise known as MDPE pipe. It's flexible but will last. We use it on farms to run water to wherever we need it and it holds up under mains pressure.
Fully expecting a atleast 2-3 hours house tour after everything is done. Having linus walking thru and talking thru everything would be absolute gold
an at least*
It will never be done. Linus will always be coming up with new ideas for content 😂
hes already announced hes moving again soon lol
@@Kingcloudii really !? Can you hint to where ?
@@sofuswurtz5951 no he hasnt even announced it other than on a wan show, he just said hes keeping the old house for content and new one will be where they live, i doubt they will ever say where
I agree with Jake, adding a heat exchanger would make A LOT of sense. Sure it would increase the temperature a little bit but it would also save your computer in case any debris gets into the plumbing.
As it is set up now, it's almost certain that it will not be "set and forget".
And a counter flow heat exchanger dimensioned right won't give any significant increase in the temperature.
Nicely done, and quite creative. keep up the good work
22:37 😍 THANK YOU for covering the math and making it relatable!! Moar often please!!!
I would suggest getting a liquid to liquid heat exchanger rather than running it as a single loop. It will mean you can keep your PC loop nice and clean of any outside contaminants.
Well, tbh, it's just a massive closed loop. There won't be any (new) contaminations. I still fully agree with you, since everything that's buried outside is gonna get hit and broken at some point in time, but a fine filter would probably be alright too.
They also wouldn't have needed the pipe in the base they could have put the heat exchanger inline with the pool pump.
No he’s absolutely right. You can use a very modest pump in the designed for the job on the pc side and simply exchange the heat to the larger loop. This is the correct way to do this.
Thats what they mentioned in 23:55
Linus doesn't want it.
Somebody remembers the whole room watercooling setup from the Beginning? That one had gunked up blocks everywhere. This will happen here aswell - i take every bet.
Jake and Alex telling Linus what to do is always fantastic content
But Jake and Alex are so full of themselves it does get a bit annoying, funny but still annoying.
scripted
@@jonesgang bro what you waffling about, your probably not around people a lot if your thinking guys joking around is being full of themselves
@@mp64901 I work in construction where you would be running home crying for your mommy and daddy after the first hour.
@@jonesgang buddy u aint a war hero and have fun with your cool 40k a year
I've been waiting so long for this project, So Ecstatic that its done, congrats on a forever custom loop
best sponsor segue all year. Also every time I go to do any project with PVC, my glue is dried out.
I love how, when it comes to computers they are meticulous with how it turns out. But anything else is "we can run this cable through the woods!" Or "we can play plumber" it's fantastic.
the comedic visual of the rock slowly going through the pipe at 17:16 is hilarious
I know of a place in Oceanside CA that use the fountain to help the AC unit cool the building. Depending on the load, different nozzles will work in the fountain.
Seen a company do this before with their server room, it was a really cool idea.
Definitely use a heat exchanger so you don't end up with a whole room water-cooling situation where EVERYTHING gets gunked up. With the heat exchanger you will be able to protect all the PC hardware.
17:18 "there's a rock in my water cooling loop"
24:00 "nope, I talked Alex out of a heat exchanger"
dont forget the convenience of running low pressure on rack side and high pressure on pool side.
it would make the rack manifold cheaper/consumer grade if it was running a sensible pressure instead of a big bertha pump.
remember, this rack also host one of LTT offsite vault backups. it be shame if the manifold gives way and hoses the rack and flood his basement
@@eisenkladHopefully they put a water leak detector down there for that exact reason
Also, they could use an exchanger with multiple circuits, each system having separate circuit (maybe with a backup radiator?) so one failure won't send the whole rack offline.
@@Morberis There's no possible way there _isn't_ one down there already. It's in the basement, right? ANY subterranean room with moisture-sensitive stuff should have one
Why not use a heat exchanger to isolate the loops from each other? You could also use 3 way valves to turn off the connection to the pool and switch to another water source in the winter. It would also allow you to regulate the pressure on both sides of the loop; lower pressure in the PCs, and higher pressure in the pool loop.
This is exactly what I do. Works really well.
To be fair. At this point it’s pretty obvious that if they were capable of putting that degree of thought into this project, we wouldnt be this many videos deep and still using flex tape
@@mattsnyder4754 They're extremely capable of putting even more thought than that into any project. The problem is that they're like, what's the next video? Oh we need all those things to do it right? Well, how much of that can you scrape together in the next 45 minutes Alex?
Why not use a plumber? :p
What you want is a water to air heat exchanger, which is what they do in some actual datacenters. Requires zero modification of server hardware (which is very important) as you're cooling the air itself, not the servers directly. Big reason being, you can't just cool a server's CPU, you have storage, VRM's, power supplies, and various other motherboard components and addin cards that require air cooling, none of which have water blocks.
The added bonus is, with an water to air heat exchanger, you gain the benefit of cooling the entire room too, so, no HVAC needed really. Combine that with a very basic PIC and a DC inverter pump, and you have a system that only demands exactly as much cooling as your room requires, so it'll never go sub-ambient and create condensation issues.
So, you know, as per usual, Linus had an idea that sounded cool in his head, but in reality isn't well thought out, and will lead to problems down he road (and more clickbaity videos of course). I do hope that he eventually realizes how irresponsible he's being bringing this sort of misinformed content to the masses.
Source: SUN Microsystems Enterprise Data Center Design and Methodology (2002)
Great video, good luck with the final refined installation.
I may suggest you add an UV purifier somewhere in the loop, else it risk to get dirty quickly.
Can't wait for the inevitable follow up video where they realize that they really need to add the heat exchanger and Jake gets to say he said so. 😂
UPDATE: I have been vindicated.
Yea, when one of those loose rocks get jammed into a CPU block. ;-)
Why not use both a filter and a heat exchanger
@@Gh3ttoboywell the idea is that the whole pool is the heat exchanger. There’s a lot of tubing running back and forth through the bottom of the pool. The sheer amount of water should keep the tubing cool even as it heats up because water will evaporate out of the pool and cool itself back down. They just didn’t plan for needing a filter because they didn’t think the water in the pipe would be so grungy and/or have actual rock(s) in it.
@@giantninja9173 not a heat exchanger in the pool, one in the room, to cool the room instead of the individual cpu's. It's how they do this in enterprise applications, ie 'the right way to do it'.
@@jttech44 I said the pool IS the heat exchanger. Literal textbook definition not what's being sold. And the right way to do it is overkill here and doesn't help heat the pool. It's only one rack. They couldn't even use the rack for the gaming room because anti cheat disallows VMs.
I'm so happy to see them back at the house, thought it would never happen again after the bed cooling fiasco
Only in the basement :D
I love the home reno TLC background music. "Can do" music!
Finally got to see linus comeplete this task! love it
I love the expression Linus makes when learning the price, always comes off as the parents just learning what shenanigans the kids are up to.
just acting.... he probably made atleast 10k+ off this video he don't mind spending 1k to make 9
@@paperc07 Doesn't make it any less funny.
I love that both you and DIY Perks released videos on cooling a PC with water from a pool/pond at the same time
Linus should interview the DIY guy and compare notes... They also both made nice desk pc's.
both were on my reccomended at the same time lol
PEX manifold behind the rack so you can individually isolate different components and make changes without losing all cooling is definitely the way to go. You also should have gotten a ratcheting crimp tool. Supports more sizes and is cheaper with the ratchet clamps being more expensive, but for how many you are using it would have been better for you.
We did a geothermal cooling system for my best buddy's computer back in like 2001, when we were just getting into overclocking. used copper piping from the wall in his office, to the side of the house, then had external fittings going to all weather piping, which we laid 8 feet deep, which was the depth needed to avoid all temp changes in winter and summer. ran it out into his yard and looped it back to the house, still works today. at the time we were trying to cool an 80W load... he's now cooling a threadripper and gtx4090 with it. still working perfect.
Gtx got discotinued last gtx card was the 1660 prety sure anythng after that is rtx
I wonder how much of the heat/energy from the server is absorbed into the ground before it reaches the pool. It'd be pretty ironic if the tubes are deep enough that the pool is actually being cooled by the soil, rather than heated by the server.
Wow, Linus and I have the exact same condensate pump for our evaporator coil. I truly am a lucky guy.
uh ok.
@@narkomancers5262 only if he wears socks in sandals too
Based
such a troll hahahah
You mean to say blessed
This is a perfect project for the 3 of you. Love it
I’ve been waiting for the next instalment of whole room water cooling.
Diy perks and Linus dropping the same idea in the same time is the best example of comedic timing
You need a water to water intercooler that interfaces with the pool filtration system instead. That way you can use less energy via pumps and your water won’t get contaminated
Thanks. I’m clueless when it comes to plumbing but I figured there must be a better way of doing it by sinking it into some kind of intercooler and then cool that and it sounds a lot like what you mentioned.
Yeah, the water in that loop will go bad within weeks
I wonder if you could fill the water intercooler with some crushed up ice as well to get some extra performance on during gaming sessions. It's a stupid impractical idea but LTT loves those so it could make for a fun video.
The end was pure joy to watch
The most incredible pooling-setup I've ever seen !
You should insulate the pipes so you don't dump so much heat into your server room.
You guys should really do the heat exchanger like Jake suggests. You would have to heavily treat such a huge loop for even a slim chance of not gunking up the micro fins on the water blocks. There is just too many points for potential contamination imo
Edit: not to mention, youd also be trusting the integrity of the work from the pool contractors that you were fed up with
i'll bet money the system ends up as bad off (contamination-wise) as that whole-house cooling loop he built years ago. I really had high hopes that he was gonna do this up right, but it looks like a repeat of the aforementioned large-scale water cooling system.
Sounds like he's using ethylene glycol antifreeze. As long as it's mixed per manufacturer's instructions (unlike in the "whole room watercooling" video where it was heavily diluted), it's impossible for this loop to gunk up. EG is a biocide at large concentrations but feeds microorganisms at low concentrations which is why the old video was a fail.
I really think the heat exchanger is a good idea, in terms of maintenance it would be a lot easier to drain the loop if required, and would also require less pressure load on the components because you wont have to pump such a large body of water
@@numberyellow haha, i forgot about that video's catastrophic results. To be frank, he did say near the beginning of the video that the final setup wont be like this. Even if something goes wrong, itll just be more content lol
@@NavinF while what youre stating about antifreeze isnt wrong, it wasnt used here. They just pumped in water from the T (or something) in their water main, which is part of their hydronic house heating system. Besides that, how do you think they could accurately measure the volume of the fluid in the loop to mix to required spec? I dont have Floatplane so I cant speak on how long it actually took to purge the whole loop, but ill bet it took a long ass time. If youre thinking about using premixed antifreeze then, I dont think bulk premix suppliers exist.
It's almost 30 C outside here now while I'm watching this.
Sun outside.
Blue skies.
Perfect day to watch this video while keeping cool inside!
2:11 was the perfect time to do a sponsor for for vessi
You merely adopted the jankiness, they were born in it. I appreciate Alex´s spirit with the Flex Tape cap.
lmao when he said they werent “planning” on using it that was the most obvious foreshadowing 😂😂
i love how they do budget diy when they have the money to hire profesianals
@@SHQ09Xtreme"budget" was still $900 😂
@@SHQ09Xtreme Hiring professionals isn't content, doing it DIY is.
This video is painful to watch on so many levels, yet so rewarding and cool to watch.
Yes, nice to see it on a private-pool level. I work at Hewlett Packard Enterprise and we have many data centers built for the companies here in Europe, where we use the excess heat to warm up pools or heat public buildings (schools, hospitals, etc.)
Question: It looks like the loops are going directly through the water, but rather embedded in the concrete itself. Doesn't this mean that the heat is transferred into the concrete and then cooled by the water? In which case is there an upper limit on concrete thickness for a project like this?
The reason I ask is because I was considering doing something like this, but with an artificial pond instead of a pool. The key difference being that the concrete would only really be used to hold the pipes. The sides would not have concrete walls so above the concrete bottom there would be layers of sand, then a pond sealant, then aquarium sand for plants to be able to grow into. The general idea is that the aquatic plants keep it clean while fish keep it free of mosquitoes. A boxed in area at the center and one edge gives access to it for swimming.
So, in my use case, there would basically be about a foot of Earth between the pipes and the water and although the water would be circulating and the sand would be wet I'm wondering if a sufficient heat exchange could occur.
I was also wondering if the small amount of heat could be of some marginal benetif to life in the pond in winter when the ice freezes over since the ice would be sealing in warmth. And, on that point, if that could result in a decreased benefit using in winter.
Linus
1. do a heat exchanger
-this will allow you to keep high pressure (pool) and low pressure (PC) systems separate
-if done right you can flush the pool and pc sides only when needed
2. do a filter on the pool side only
-this will keep garbage from damaging the pump
-and filters can release particles into the cooling fluid thus clogging the fine fins of water blocks
Not sure if you're aware but the cooling loop isnt actually using poolwater, the cooling loop has pipes in the walls of the pool
@@nemtudom5074 yet the pool loop is still EXTREMELY filthy and janky it NEEDS to be separated from the delicate pc hardware
@@nemtudom5074 did you miss the part of the video where there were rocks in the loop
@@jackass123455 Its filthy because they left water in it for what i assume to be weeks
@@nemtudom5074 and now that bio mass is there good luck properly getting it out and keeping it out the best solution here didn't even involve him putting a custom loop of pipe in his concrete (which could actually become heat soaked close to the pipe concrete isn't a great heat conductor) the beter solution is a pair of heat exchangers (one in his server room and one in the pools filtration system) using the water directly rather than trying to go through an ineffcient heat exchange medium to access his pool water.
the benefit of this also given the screw up from his contractors is that his solar panel cooling loop can also be plumbed into the pool filtration after the pc cooling loop ensuring he doesnt get heat crossover there.
now he has to go pool server solar pool and if as i said the concrete gets heat soaked well hes SOL
Guys, we must appreciate linus’ dedication to the segues. For crying out loud, man was dripping wet and *still* managed it. Bravo 🎉
I'm sure he's dripping wet everytime he segues
@@Sidorovich420 Truer words have never been spoken.
@@Sidorovich420 whatcha mean by that....?
@@optionapoop Linus is doing it the segueway! Ok Ill show myself out the door…
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Oh wow, I didn't realize different areas were still using that standard for lex fittings. They've moved away from it in the states for a different one that uses a smaller crimper that fits all sizes. The crimps are also removable with pliers now.
The Flex Seal cap is just great.
13:56 the one piece is real
Loved this video. As an HVAC it checks all my boxes. One thing to consider that you may not have thought of though is that in the winter the water coming from the pool will almost certainly be colder than the dewpoint of the server room(~10°C). Those pipes coming in from the outside will be sweating and will get water in the server rack if you run it like this in the winter. If you add a heat exchange put a drain pan under it to collect the water that condenses and insulate the pipes coming from the outside so they don't sweat as well. Make sure that the pump on the PC side of the heat exchanger has enough flow that the heat exchanger doesn't cool the water on the PC side below the dewpoint as well.
It shouldn't be that cool. Maybe below the dewpoint, but not -10C. The winters don't get super cold in this area and there will also be a ton of heat pumped into the fluid. I do agree however that in all cases, this needs a low point with a drain pan.
@@GorgotMM The tilde* (~) doesn't mean negative. It means "about". He's saying the temperature will get "about"10 degrees C.
@@Sasbanonker Oh, I had read this as minus. Sorry.
@@Sasbanonker Tilda is such a hot name, damn it got me acting up now.
@@Sasbanonker It's tilde
Love these "mad scientist" videos...especially when they work!
its been a week and im still chuckling at "Biological ladder" + "Step Laddy".
For the record, when you're putting PVC pipe fittings together, twist them like a screw during the cementing process. It helps to further "blend" the two pieces as they melt together, making for a stronger "weld". Also, *use primer*!
Don’t use primer imo if it’s clean…. Unless your doing giant pipes you don’t need it… the pipe glue has acetone in it
If your code requires primer and you want to go ahead. We could agree to disagree about the effectiveness of primer. I’ve seen lots of research that indicates a worse bond
I’m more of a blue guy than a grey guy for anything under 4 inch. They really shouldn’t use hardened glue either and definitely won’t wait a whole day for grey to dry
Eh. The way I learned is: Primer on both pieces, glue on both pieces, push and twist together. Doesn't need much drying time unless you're using it for pressurized or flammable conditions, in which case you give it 24 hours to cure properly.
@@RayneAngelus grey needs a day to dry chief
Shoutout to David on all these shoots as our audience stand in, enjoying the spectacle just as much as the rest of us 😂
it's definitely gonna chill a lot faster on winter
you might want to insulate those output pipes with aircon foam tubing to allow better transport of heat
From running tubing throughout the old house to running tubing through your own pool for cooling. Quite a journey in 10 years.
Whole house water cooling was ten years ago? Now I do feel old.
Those waterblocks are going to clog in a heartbeat no matter what sort of filter you use. I can’t believe there won’t be a heat exchanger used.
There is a pool in Prague Czech republic, that is located like 400metres from Czech national television building. And from like middle of 80s it is connected with pipelines for this purpose. Cold water from the pool is used to cool the equipment, warm water from that used to heat up the pools. I dont know any details about how self efficient etc it is, but probably it is working well because one of the outside pools they have is heated even in winter.
Cant wait to see the capabilities of this in winter
Usually I watch LTT and think wow these guys definitely know more about what they’re doing than I do…until today! Loved watching Linus and Alex navigate the plumbing on this one 😂😂