The Worst Product We’ve Tried in YEARS! - Bykski External Cooler

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  • @LinusTechTips
    @LinusTechTips  Před rokem +467

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  • @pacman6007
    @pacman6007 Před rokem +14727

    Thank God, I was worried I would need a full sized PC instead of a slightly smaller one, but now I can just use this PC-sized cooler to cool my small PC and save tons of space!

    • @djchotus1
      @djchotus1 Před rokem +152

      Lol

    • @chronossage
      @chronossage Před rokem +590

      With long enough tubes you just keep that thing in the basement or something.

    • @pali3329
      @pali3329 Před rokem +1524

      @@chronossage With long enough tubes i just put the ends in a lake and use it as a huge reservoir.

    • @MercyOfDarkness
      @MercyOfDarkness Před rokem +324

      @@chronossage Not with that pump in there lol.

    • @Fay7666
      @Fay7666 Před rokem +15

      Eh, I think this would look cool besides my Shift X. If I end up rebuilding it, I'd likely need a setup like this in order to keep it cool.

  • @dangitnicky
    @dangitnicky Před rokem +1846

    The "fixing the product" portion of the video was magical. I would love to see more of that in the future!

    • @MrSqueakyBubbles
      @MrSqueakyBubbles Před rokem

      Iu😊nk😊b😊ihuh

    • @BlissBatch
      @BlissBatch Před rokem +39

      "Once you fill it, it will work. You can just never put it back together again." 🤣

    • @dstutz
      @dstutz Před rokem +18

      It was entertaining but as someone with no water cooling experience I couldn't really tell what it was they were actually doing to fix it

    • @wolfremus2521
      @wolfremus2521 Před rokem +46

      @@dstutz The water return port in the reservoir is too close to the pump, so all air bubble got suck back into circulation. They simply switch the water return port to a higher slot, and so the air bubble would stay on top instead.

    • @SurgStriker
      @SurgStriker Před rokem +7

      new channel. "Linus Product Fixes", where they find fixes for major issues with tech products. Maybe they could get a revenue stream from selling the fixes to the original product designers

  • @kooliodood89
    @kooliodood89 Před rokem +1720

    That 10 day warranty makes me think of when I ordered a car part off a website and they had a 12 day warranty... from PURCHASE DATE... and it took 15 DAYS FOR THE PART TO BE DELIEVERED.

    • @99xara99
      @99xara99 Před rokem +64

      Lol that just can't be legally correct, can it?

    • @kooliodood89
      @kooliodood89 Před rokem +48

      @@99xara99 Idk, but that was like 10 years ago so I'm not too worried about it now

    • @ThiefMaster
      @ThiefMaster Před rokem +73

      @@99xara99 In countries with mandatory warranty (like Germany and probably most/all of the EU): No chance. But if the warranty is compltely optional and up to the seller I guess they can do whatever stupid shit they want...

    • @TechSY730
      @TechSY730 Před rokem +13

      ​​​​​​​@@99xara99 I don't know about Canada.
      Important EDIT: in the US, this may vary for each state. But at the federal level, this is nothing stopping it
      But in the US, if it is part of the contract of the warranty, a "starts on purchase date" clause for a warranty is entirely legal.
      Or rather, there is no law or precedent preventing such a clause from being in a warranty contract, or to render it unenforceable.
      And you are going to be hard pressed to find companies that offer warranty terms that start with the arrival date. (Another reason why one should consider buying from a brick and mortar store)

    • @weberman173
      @weberman173 Před rokem +11

      @@TechSY730 thats just absolutly insane to me
      as ThiefMaster has stated in my country(Germany) such a clause would be illegal to no end.
      even ignoring the EXTREMLY short time for it(10 days isnt even covering the 14 days "no questions asked" return policy that is mandatory for "Fernmeldegesschäfte" (aka purchases done via the phone or internet etc) and that is just the icebeerg

  • @TFL6
    @TFL6 Před rokem +395

    I just love how Linus comes back from ''there is no such thing as a bad product'' while somebody is throwing tiny plastic baby's in the fan. The IQ level is superb

  • @vdevov
    @vdevov Před rokem +2147

    These product reviews keep getting weirder and I’m here for it.

    • @alexdavis9324
      @alexdavis9324 Před rokem +16

      I really thought is was going to be a useful product.

    • @Wiisporter
      @Wiisporter Před rokem +11

      This review gets stranger and stranger...

    • @Stabbingparrot
      @Stabbingparrot Před rokem +1

      Yes. It makes it even more funny

    • @pirojfmifhghek566
      @pirojfmifhghek566 Před rokem +6

      The impromptu baby shower adds a nice touch.

    • @smartguy9765
      @smartguy9765 Před rokem

      "and I’m here for it." What does this mean?

  • @HatchetHatter
    @HatchetHatter Před rokem +1359

    Honestly, I'd love to see them do a video where they do attempt make a better version of it in a day. I know they've done similar thing in the past, but it'd be fun to see what they can do.

    • @dreamshooter90
      @dreamshooter90 Před rokem +10

      I seccond that.

    • @philth7587
      @philth7587 Před rokem +15

      There's no need to make much of an attempt. Just buy a mo-ra3 with add ons and it's done in an hour

    • @HatchetHatter
      @HatchetHatter Před rokem +59

      @@philth7587 Uhh.... The point would be a fun video for the audience? I wasn't saying there weren't other options. I was just suggesting they try because they said they could do it.
      Just because I'm not going to build my own external radiator doesn't mean I don't want to see them try.

    • @philip1382
      @philip1382 Před rokem +17

      I wonder if they have enough people to field two teams and make it a competition.

    • @0DanceMusic0
      @0DanceMusic0 Před rokem +2

      Yeees!!

  • @Survival-gyver
    @Survival-gyver Před rokem +74

    What you do is add a neck to the fill port, with a funnel. The same way a radiator fill on a older vehicles work. As air escapes, the air bubbles out taking some water with it, but due to the shape of a funnel at the top, the water wouldn't splash out and be recovered as it drains back into the fill hole.

    • @TheWinjin
      @TheWinjin Před 10 měsíci +15

      Would be kinda hilarious if there's instructions for it somewhere on like their website (or probably in their Tiktok or something stupid like one of these chinese superapps)

    • @tobiasjames6949
      @tobiasjames6949 Před 10 měsíci +5

      The cold supply line too should be on the bottom of the radiator enclosure, having both at the same level is peak dumb, all i can say is liquid cooling a PC appears to have people not understanding what has already been worked out in home heating water runs and cars for 100+ years

    • @TierNoneOperator
      @TierNoneOperator Před 2 měsíci

      As an auto mechanic I could have had that filled in about 5 minutes. I bet it even included a funnel and fittings to do it.

  • @Lakylog
    @Lakylog Před rokem +33

    Linus says it's from Japan, but every piece of information I can find about the company, including their own website, suggests they're Chinese.

  • @ERGOPROXY.
    @ERGOPROXY. Před rokem +656

    Fixing the design was hilarious to watch. I would absolutely watch a series where you take expensive, poorly designed products and fix them so they work better.

    • @jondonnelly4831
      @jondonnelly4831 Před rokem +2

      they didn't really fix it though/

    • @monkey3582
      @monkey3582 Před rokem +1

      @@ffggggggg452doesnt cool as good and quiet and some people like the apperances of water cooling

    • @jeanmahmoudventilateur3480
      @jeanmahmoudventilateur3480 Před rokem

      @@monkey3582 "as good and quiet" let me introduce you to noctua then

    • @monkey3582
      @monkey3582 Před rokem

      @@jeanmahmoudventilateur3480 what about using noctua radiators?? I mean liquid is just better at conducting heat

    • @jeanmahmoudventilateur3480
      @jeanmahmoudventilateur3480 Před rokem

      @@monkey3582 You are aware it's the exact same principle on both cases, right ?
      You are aware there is water in the pipes of air coolers, right ?
      You are aware that watercooling are just air coolers with a different setup, right ?
      The only benefit of watercooling is having bigger radiators (more than 360mm) and more clearance on the mobo, otherwise the risks of leaks and defect products are not worth it.
      If you want performances, low prices and low noise levels, go to noctua. Pumps and watercooling fans are louder, and overall more expensive.

  • @vampyrecat4458
    @vampyrecat4458 Před rokem +1051

    you guys should attempt to make your own version in a day and see how much better it is than the "official" product

  • @lukeperryglover
    @lukeperryglover Před rokem +183

    It's crazy how fast they fixed the products design flaw just on the fly. Hopefully the manufacturer just, you know, does that. lol

    • @metaleater9
      @metaleater9 Před 11 měsíci +19

      More like bad documentation, They could have used the rear ports to bleed air from the loop before connecting it to the PC.

    • @kingdom9214
      @kingdom9214 Před 8 měsíci +7

      It was built wrong from the factory, I have the 360mm version of this and my fill/exhaust ports were installed correctly. I think whoever built this one mixed up where the fill & exhaust ports go.

    • @lukeperryglover
      @lukeperryglover Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@kingdom9214 fair enough. lol

  • @fixingphoenix5146
    @fixingphoenix5146 Před rokem +92

    I feel a lot better about myself after seeing these two try to fill a coolant circuit

  • @sayantansaharoy6349
    @sayantansaharoy6349 Před rokem +1667

    Now we absolutely NEED a diy external cooler made by Linus and Alex.

    • @hobbypyromane2.05
      @hobbypyromane2.05 Před rokem +48

      They should just use a car radiator. Would absolutely love to see it

    • @hulime
      @hulime Před rokem +9

      @@hobbypyromane2.05pretty sure they’ve done so for one of their sub 0 projects, might be wrong

    • @MrBlahblhblah
      @MrBlahblhblah Před rokem +7

      I mean they practically signed themselves up

    • @sayantansaharoy6349
      @sayantansaharoy6349 Před rokem +8

      @@hulime those were pretty barebones and diy. The real thing would be to see an actually viable and basically purchasable thing like this one

    • @wtftolate3782
      @wtftolate3782 Před rokem +4

      Here is one that is cheaper than what Linus showed and actually works. Look up MO-RA3.

  • @ChrisPengelly
    @ChrisPengelly Před rokem +807

    I'm now convinced that, with 100% reliability, Linus + Alex + Messing around with literally anything = Banger video

    • @tom6nicole
      @tom6nicole Před rokem +3

      ong

    • @fastydave
      @fastydave Před rokem

      @@tom6nicole stop using that acronym you numpty

    • @toddmaples3152
      @toddmaples3152 Před rokem +1

      I'd love to hang out with these two just once... Throw Kris in the mix and you gotta party 🎉😂

    • @NotUwU-_-
      @NotUwU-_- Před rokem

      They think hard for the script

  • @Corylolable
    @Corylolable Před 6 měsíci +3

    a suggestion from a mechanic... instead of just filling the rad when we work on cars, we use a fill cup or some call it burping the radiator. so you use a funnel that fits tightly in the fill spout and over fill the funnel, when air comes out its automatically replaced with more water and it wont make such a huge mess like that.

  • @creatureofrabbit2036
    @creatureofrabbit2036 Před rokem +14

    Linus, if you decide to make one of these google "swirl pot". It's a dead simple air separating device. Also generally when bleeding a system you feed fluid in while allowing the fluid to flow out into a catch at the other end of the loop until it is free of bubbles.

  • @TheBrokenEclipse
    @TheBrokenEclipse Před rokem +538

    I kinda want to see more videos where they use the insane amount of resources and knowledge they have in the Lab to fix shitty products

    • @tobcyxob
      @tobcyxob Před rokem +17

      Remember when Linus drilled a hole in a PC case to increase it's thermals to 10 degrees?

    • @tdgchan
      @tdgchan Před rokem +4

      This seems like something someone from a shitty product company would say... And I'm totally on board with it.

    • @shipwreck9146
      @shipwreck9146 Před rokem +9

      That'd be such a cool series!!!
      "We fixed your $h*t"

    • @quadrilaturalSamurai
      @quadrilaturalSamurai Před rokem +3

      @@shipwreck9146 Best I could come up with was "Lab Rejects" -- I think you got the better idea.

  • @RossClarke0
    @RossClarke0 Před rokem +312

    I like how all the electricity stuff is right at the bottom instead of the top, that way it auto shuts off when there is a leak inside.

    • @teslatrooper
      @teslatrooper Před rokem +20

      It's a safety feature!

    • @chrisbaker8533
      @chrisbaker8533 Před rokem +9

      Or explodes in spectacular fashion.

    • @Kr0noZ
      @Kr0noZ Před rokem +21

      @@chrisbaker8533 This thing is getting 12 V max... I don't see it exploding, but the controller boards WILL go up in smoke if you're unlucky.
      This entire design is so extremely backwards, I'm almost sure they never actually tested this before bringing it to market.

    • @pirojfmifhghek566
      @pirojfmifhghek566 Před rokem +10

      Don't worry, the plastic babies will keep the computer safe.

    • @drinkoldcoke
      @drinkoldcoke Před rokem +3

      The leak was at the TOP, so obviously keep the electrical on the bottom to keep it separated ;D.

  • @feuby8480
    @feuby8480 Před rokem +13

    I totally want to see that homemade external cooler. You could even sell plans to make it with 3D printers and stuff.

  • @Leo99929
    @Leo99929 Před rokem +9

    For future reference: a fitting with a length of tube can be screwed in to the fill port to give it some wiggle room on backflow gurgles and running dry. Wider tube the better.

  • @Riddler290
    @Riddler290 Před rokem +520

    You guys should make this a thing. Fixing bad product designs and making them better/work 🎉😊

    • @MrPaxio
      @MrPaxio Před rokem +3

      there isnt many of them out there, cos you know, if it didnt work, it wouldnt even sell one unit.

    • @sireuchre
      @sireuchre Před rokem +3

      That's how the screwdriver started, basically.

    • @Neptexian
      @Neptexian Před rokem +8

      @@MrPaxio There's a lot more than you might think, particularly with sketchy/scammy sellers. It's just that a lot of people are smart enough to avoid them entirely.

    • @JimSefton
      @JimSefton Před rokem

      @@sireuchre but realistically the LTT screwdriver isn't better than the compeition.... but their version of this could really be better!

    • @sireuchre
      @sireuchre Před rokem +5

      @@JimSefton do you own one? From the launch video, and the various people trying it out, including various tradesmen, it has been received really well. Linus didn't mess around.

  • @hmst5420
    @hmst5420 Před rokem +674

    Adding a gigantic external cooler to an sff case is the greatestest idea

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 Před rokem +43

      yes so much space saved....

    • @chrisc1140
      @chrisc1140 Před rokem +6

      I could see it if you move your computer a decent amount, but don't want a laptop for ...some reason I guess?
      Basically plug into this with QDs at home for max cooling, but still have SOME radiators (and a pump, which means you don't need this design specifically) for wherever else you're using your desktop.

    • @TheZRasmus
      @TheZRasmus Před rokem +1

      @@chrisc1140 I am actually have a SSUPD meshlicious and I want to stick a 280mm rad in there, so I can do exact that. I have quick connects already on it.
      I actually like it, because it's always cool like gpu never hits more than 35°C in a 30°C environment, it's inaudible and I don't have a huge case on my desk, just a tiny one. It's more a project, so I have something to tinker around with xD

    • @chrisc1140
      @chrisc1140 Před rokem +1

      @@TheZRasmus while I made fun of the idea, admittedly I've thought about it too. Would be trivially easy for me since I have the Xtia xproto-L so it'd basically just be setting a second radiator on the ground next to it

    • @AMerexican787
      @AMerexican787 Před rokem +4

      To be fair most of the large rads can be wall mounted to keep them out of the way or you can even run the tubes through the wall into a different room to keep the room with the pc in it cooler.

  • @IcyNova115
    @IcyNova115 Před rokem +15

    I'd love to see a follow-up video to this one where you guys build your own better version of it lol

  • @outbackshaqYT
    @outbackshaqYT Před rokem +2

    5:00 that line going down and back up would create a syphon effect, making for an easier time filling and less work for the pumps, assuming I understand correctly. It should help prevent stray air bubbles too, if filled with patience :P

  • @renedelarosa2513
    @renedelarosa2513 Před rokem +610

    That fact that they noticed the problem instantly is hilarious. It really shows their level of experience with these types of things😂

    • @arklanuthoslin
      @arklanuthoslin Před rokem +35

      I think it speaks more to the crap design - Hell, I noticed it as soon as we saw the bubbles pull into the pump, and I've never even been around a water cooled system.

    • @phuzz00
      @phuzz00 Před rokem +3

      I've not built anywhere near as many watercooled builds as Linus or Alex, but I've definitely made all the same mistakes this product had, so I knew exactly where to look.

    • @J0SHUAKANE
      @J0SHUAKANE Před rokem +1

      They never even read the manual.

    • @otroflores91
      @otroflores91 Před rokem

      ​@@J0SHUAKANE Right, if you don't understand the design. Maybe glance at the instruction guide.

    • @Jehty21
      @Jehty21 Před rokem +2

      @@J0SHUAKANE and how exactly does the manual fix a fatal design flaw?

  • @ImFrantic
    @ImFrantic Před rokem +416

    I would love to see a self-made version of this, stomping the original 😄

    • @theduck17
      @theduck17 Před rokem +13

      Really wouldn't be hard. Just get a MO-RA360, Heatkiller Reservoir with D5 pump, 9 Arctic 120mm fans, EK soft tubes and fittings and couple of quick disconnects and that's it.
      I'm surprised their product is so bad, it's not that hard right now to do this so kinda no excuse.

    • @ImFrantic
      @ImFrantic Před rokem

      @@theduck17 I know, it would be easy af, but I wanna see them both building something stupid again 😄

    • @superrob1500
      @superrob1500 Před rokem +2

      Its called the desk of radiators. Made by Alex. Look it up.

    • @davidsharp9166
      @davidsharp9166 Před rokem +1

      Something with a huge radiator that leaks, no they've done that.
      If we are doing outer of case cooling. How about heating hot tub etc

  • @Hcwageek
    @Hcwageek Před rokem +9

    As a note - you're using too much pressure when you tested the external radiator setup on its own. 0.3 bar is the recommended maximum for a complete loop, or anything involving a distribution plate. There's a chance to damage it running pressure that high. EK notes this in the manual.

  • @somethingbrite8484
    @somethingbrite8484 Před rokem +6

    I've picked up quite a lot of "budget watercooling stuff" off of Ali-Express, including Bykski and my experience of it all has been pretty good.

  • @etikkakurkku
    @etikkakurkku Před rokem +789

    17:11 The pitch of the sound the blades make in standard A440 tuning is about E flat -ish (before it starts slowing down), so about 622Hz. The fans have 11 blades, so I'd say they are spinning at about 622Hz*60s/11≈3400rpm.

  • @AMerexican787
    @AMerexican787 Před rokem +338

    For anyone looking to actually do something similar to this, the MoRa and Supernova line of radiators work great for this purpose

    • @Hunter-nb5bj
      @Hunter-nb5bj Před rokem +11

      Can confirm, I have a MoRa3 420 rad and it keeps my 1080ti in high 30s when under load with a OC

    • @sealx2292
      @sealx2292 Před rokem +3

      I have a MoRa 420 as well. Works great.

    • @Bassnova
      @Bassnova Před rokem +2

      I’m glad I’m not the only one, can’t wait to get my first MoRa

    • @green-cash
      @green-cash Před rokem +1

      Yeah MoRa owner here, only 360 MoRa that i mount on the outside of my Case!

    • @scottbetza2999
      @scottbetza2999 Před rokem

      Where can you buy in US?

  • @coolfrost6
    @coolfrost6 Před rokem +9

    I would love to see how one of the old external passive tower coolers actually work. I was alway curious.

  • @jonathanphilosof6578
    @jonathanphilosof6578 Před rokem +2

    good old linus and alex crazy shenanigans with water cooling, loving this energy

  • @franskamstra2728
    @franskamstra2728 Před rokem +228

    I really want to see you guys making an external cooler like this and in a way DIY guys could use to build it.

    • @dtfech
      @dtfech Před rokem +12

      I went searching for exactly this comment! I think they could split it into two videos; one for entry level DIYers (no industrial equipment) and one of the best LTT can make with parts and equipment on hand

    • @zackzeed
      @zackzeed Před rokem

      Agreed

    • @xfy123
      @xfy123 Před rokem +1

      @@dtfech you can make one with just home depo parts or your local equivalent it would probably cost you around 30 bucks for the materials. I made one for my next build, because there are legit no good eatx cases on the market rn for a reasonable price. I just welded a frame together i can fit 4 360rads in it i got a old PSU to power it and a cheap LCD fan controller on the front, i got a large metal mesh on the sides with a filter below it that just slides on and off. I only got 2 rads in it now but it's keeping my old gtx1070 and Ryzen 5 1600 at like 25 degrees idel and a peak of 50-60 degrees when gaming and that's with 6 year old thermal paste.

    • @kristapspuntulis99
      @kristapspuntulis99 Před rokem +3

      it would feel fair if during DIY project they stay in the same price range as this product, to se if they can make something better for the same money

    • @zigalanimations382
      @zigalanimations382 Před rokem +1

      Well i was gonna write that XD

  • @IanZamojc
    @IanZamojc Před rokem +125

    This looks like the perfect opportunity to use all the fabrication tools LTT has to build a more elegant solution. Then either sell the unit in low volumes or release the schematics and build files as open source. Showing that process of semi-professional product design, engineering and "release" would be really awesome.

    • @MatsNorway
      @MatsNorway Před rokem +3

      LTT open source designs would be fun.

    • @joshuahadams
      @joshuahadams Před rokem

      Their old radiator video comes to mind.

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious Před rokem

      lol, sounds like a recipe for disaster. These guys are far from engineers.

    • @IanZamojc
      @IanZamojc Před rokem

      @@evolicious I mean, the company who built this cooler supposedly had an engineer and look what happened.
      The LTT folks identified the issues and have plenty of skilled staff and the equipment to iterate on this. Besides, there are no failures, only content.

  • @Pootie-jk9ff
    @Pootie-jk9ff Před 4 měsíci

    I’m using one of this Antec cases shown earlier with the water cooling holes in the back. It’s amazing!

  • @icarus-wings
    @icarus-wings Před 9 měsíci +12

    Where can I bid on this item?

  • @Svaha75
    @Svaha75 Před rokem +103

    I was not expecting a plaintive cry of "Stop putting babies in the computeeeer!", in this review, but I think I love it. If you can fully explain why a terrible product is the way it is, and then try to fix it, that's content gold right there.

  • @DanceBruce
    @DanceBruce Před rokem +92

    I would love to see you guys take parts of this and make it the way it should have been. Use the same Radiator but use better fans and your own water revisors to make it perfect. Maybe even showing us how to build one ourselves. I think this is a great idea for a product i just dont know how they messed up so badly

    • @JoeStuffzAlt
      @JoeStuffzAlt Před rokem +1

      For something that size, I wonder if it could cool multiple PCs. That would be a good use case. Instead of having 3 giant PC towers, you have the huge-ass radiator and 3 small form-factor PCs. I think they did a desk where the fans were on the desk, and that was a good example.

  • @alpacabloom1545
    @alpacabloom1545 Před rokem +48

    They were the only company I could find offering 6900XT SE waterblocks for Sapphire, and its been flawless.
    It hurt watching this. Like, paranoid hurt. I'm staring at my case right now.

    • @isakgronkvist5871
      @isakgronkvist5871 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Has it burned to ashes yet

    • @GoatzombieBubba
      @GoatzombieBubba Před 10 měsíci

      @@isakgronkvist5871 6900 is AMD not Nvidia so no fires.

    • @majesty2699
      @majesty2699 Před 10 měsíci

      @@GoatzombieBubba r9 fury would like a word

  • @newskul
    @newskul Před rokem +6

    This probably would have been easier with the NR200MAX instead of the NR200P. The GPU mounts a little lower in the chassis in that one. I also had concerns about water making it all the way from the inlet to the outlet with how much radiator there is there.

  • @BrianHamilton01
    @BrianHamilton01 Před rokem +328

    A trick to fill impossible loops is put a T and a valve in, then pull a vacuum on the coolant system, close the valve, put a tube in your liquid and connect it to the closed valve, then open and watch the water shoot through the entire system. Works every time on my last four builds.

    • @MrSn3akr
      @MrSn3akr Před rokem +14

      And everyone has 1 of those 😁🤔

    • @comicsansgreenkirby
      @comicsansgreenkirby Před rokem +19

      @Karl Berget Alright, it's OK. Who knows - his other builds could've had strange edge cases like some of LTT's videos tend to + He's just posting a tip!

    • @chumprock
      @chumprock Před rokem +7

      Or you could just stick the return tube into the bottle of water....

    • @Tome_Wyrm
      @Tome_Wyrm Před rokem +1

      Or do the same thing they did with one of the chillers. Just have a pressurized fill source. Which technically is what you're doing with a vacuum on the exit port.

    • @phtevenmolz5030
      @phtevenmolz5030 Před rokem +4

      This is basically how refrigerant systems are filled and the same concept behind how automotive coolant systems bleed themselves too. Actually a good tip.

  • @EsikeitettyMaissi
    @EsikeitettyMaissi Před rokem +181

    I love how during the intro, when Alex hands Linus the box, he stays close by to make sure Linus doesn't drop the thing before they even get to test it 😂 ❤

  • @TheOppiter
    @TheOppiter Před rokem +4

    always gets me, how much fun it looks like he's having, and then how stressed he is off camera. blows my mind O-o

    • @desmo78
      @desmo78 Před rokem

      Imagine still using “O-o”

  • @alka1ine
    @alka1ine Před rokem +15

    For empty rads (or a crappy design), I thought it was common knowledge to just attach a tube to the fill port and lightly blow through it to get the water moving. It also lets you put in a few inches, or even feet, of water at a time and it can't burp on you.
    I've actually used a 6-12" tube with a fill cap plug on it on my last 2 builds and it tucks nicely behind front panel on many cases(above front mount fans or rad).

    • @Lexicon_
      @Lexicon_ Před rokem +4

      Alternatively, they could have just used a PSU jumper to switch it on and off to power cycle the pump while filling it. Y'know, like sane people.

  • @Nordern
    @Nordern Před rokem +37

    I have a tip for filling hard to fill things like that radiator, a ptreol hand pump for a outboard motor works great to push liquid through with the system off!

  • @janekoppitz
    @janekoppitz Před rokem +53

    First we got the external GPUs, now we have external coolers, next each part of the PC will be kept in entirely separate rooms to ensure maximum cooling.
    Also, "We would have made it better than this" *Flashbacks to the PT Cruiser Cooler video*

    • @Lord_zeel
      @Lord_zeel Před rokem +8

      That's called a server room.

    • @ElderKnight
      @ElderKnight Před rokem +1

      and maximum silence.

    • @keit99
      @keit99 Před rokem +4

      Isn't that just 1960s like Computers 😂

    • @carpelunam
      @carpelunam Před rokem +1

      The Pt Cruiser was the worst car Ive ever owned in my life

    • @Jedibenuk
      @Jedibenuk Před rokem

      You jest, but I'm sure I've seen someone e's watercooling system with a radiator OUTSIDE and the tubing run through the wall.

  • @SaltRockStacker
    @SaltRockStacker Před rokem +14

    If you are going with an external radiator like that, you might as well just janky-rig an aquarium chiller.
    I have not tried it myself, but I would imagine you might have some condensation problems in the PC if the temperature in the chiller is set too low.
    EDIT: It looks like you guys already did one :)
    czcams.com/video/HMtvEbD2MQo/video.html

  • @frankvsupermacalite
    @frankvsupermacalite Před rokem

    I LOVE David's input from behind the camera ❤

  • @Praetor353
    @Praetor353 Před rokem +130

    Pro tip: use a Mityvac MV6400 automotive pressure bleeder with the MV588 transmission adapter for complex loops. It threads into G1/4 and you can power bleed any loop no matter how complex. Put 2 valves at the end of the loop to block flow and open a drain and you can perform coolant changes in record time WITHOUT losing prime. Bonus is its 1 gallon so you can mix your distilled water and coolant concentrate right inside it. I have 4 radiators and 2 pumps in a o11 XL and needed a solution for maintenance, and this is what I found works best!

    • @spankeyfish
      @spankeyfish Před rokem +6

      Even the little funnels you can get with a G1/4 fitting on them would've improved this, lol

    • @Kowalskithegreat
      @Kowalskithegreat Před rokem +6

      Or just buy a Aquacomputer Leakshield, I fill my system thru the EK drain fitting on my GPU block with it's internal vacuum pump and use the auto deaeration cycle a couple times afterwards, shit's cash. vac pump sensors valves and a display all built into the reservoir cap, and the matching D5 NeXt pump has it's own water temp sensor, pump controller, display and fan controller so you just flash the desired fan curves into it once thru software and it does it's own thing with fan/pump speeds. Can even display system info like cpu temps etc on either display. caveat- pump only has 1 fan output so you can only daisy-chain 3-4 or just get a splitty9 to control more like i did

    • @eclipsegst9419
      @eclipsegst9419 Před rokem +2

      Exactly. A cheap brake bleeder and a tank full of water would have prevented them most certainly damaging the pump from running it dry.

    • @TheEchelon
      @TheEchelon Před rokem +6

      @@eclipsegst9419 If that's required to run this, then the design is inherently flawed. This isn't a car brake system, it's (well it should be) a relatively simple water cooling loop.

    • @eclipsegst9419
      @eclipsegst9419 Před rokem

      @@TheEchelon not required. A little patience would have worked fine. But if they were in a hurry they should have used the right tool to hurry the process.

  • @Mark-mu4pj
    @Mark-mu4pj Před rokem +38

    They owe you $600 for fixing their own product 😂

  • @kevinlau6403
    @kevinlau6403 Před rokem

    This vid was such a freaking home run! Immensely entertaining and funny!

  • @criznittle968
    @criznittle968 Před rokem +3

    It's about time we get a full tower case that triples as a radiator, reservoir and pump. It would have everything you need for water cooling, but it's also a fully functional case!
    I'm not talking about a case with all the liquid cooling essentials included inside of it, what i mean is to use each part as a piece of the case. Radiators with included fans for the side panels and top, reservoir front and/or back, and a replaceable pump somewhere easily accessible. Why doesn't this already exist?

  • @taqialishah7863
    @taqialishah7863 Před rokem +171

    The moment he said test your patience i double tapped the screen so hard Linus personally knows us now

    • @user-en4ho2dz4u
      @user-en4ho2dz4u Před rokem

      You slipped 10 secs if you're on a phone

    • @Quizack
      @Quizack Před rokem +3

      @@rustler08 I think he actually said “rest your Asians”.

    • @baconwizard
      @baconwizard Před rokem

      @@user-en4ho2dz4u you should be able to change the amount it skips by… or use a sponsor-block extension

    • @KalijahAnderson
      @KalijahAnderson Před rokem

      Not the only one.

  • @RaccoonHenry
    @RaccoonHenry Před rokem +43

    this seems like something that you guys could overhaul into something amazing, a followup would be great

  • @NatesiKness
    @NatesiKness Před rokem +2

    A few years ago i watercooled a 2700x and 5700xt entirely with Bykski products, water blocks and all, just to test the parts and see whether or not they were any good. It was ridiculously cheap to do so i said eh why not. It ended up working great, none of the fittings ever leaked over my 2 year use of the machine, no oxidation from bad metal alloys or anything. Overall great experience and i think i watercooled the entire system for something like 250 bucks, ended up overclocking that gpu within top 2% of the world or something like that

  • @anthony7564
    @anthony7564 Před rokem +2

    I love how Alex & Linus looked at this and said "wow that's jank" with the immediate follow-up thought "WE KNOW JANK LET'S GOOO" and knew how to fix it in half a second

  • @louiecoles4140
    @louiecoles4140 Před rokem +78

    I just wanna thank David for the camerawork and the sound bytes during the video. Please keep up the good work.

  • @Boss_Corgi
    @Boss_Corgi Před rokem +36

    I'd love to see a build with the MO-RA3 420 as a "How to do this but properly" video. Maybe you could make a project out of it by building a chassis incorporating it into the case?

    • @brrebrresen1367
      @brrebrresen1367 Před rokem +2

      didn't Aquatuning have an universal external case for that or was it just for the 9x120mm variants?
      even the cheaper Phobya Xtreme Nova 1080 would slap the piece of crap they tested here, and that have been on the market since before Linus even break trough on CZcams...

    • @chadlanc
      @chadlanc Před rokem +1

      I use one with 200mm noctua fans, it’s wonderful

    • @antimatter818
      @antimatter818 Před rokem +2

      I have a mora3 420 with 200mm fans as well, best temps I've ever had and I love the quiet operation 😍

    • @theduck17
      @theduck17 Před rokem

      I basically have the MO-RA360 version of this thing that actually works. Using quick disconnects, a Heatkiller res but a D5 pump instead (actually running two, one at the rad and one inside my NR200).
      Even have 9 fans like LTTs too, but mine are Arctic fans on a Noctua controller all connected to my mobo so I can monitor and control the fans
      I got excited when I saw this product originally announced but dang, what a horrible implementation.
      Just spec out your own MO-RA, use EK soft tubes and it'll be way better than that thing.

  • @NoBodY202four
    @NoBodY202four Před 8 měsíci

    I’ve used closed loop cooling systems before (not pc cooling related but in semiconductor community.) there is a witchcraft voodoo type ritual to get a closed loop system work like this. You get air pockets all over in the lines and need a separate filler reservoir placed higher than your pumping loop to draw fluid from and pull the liquid from the bottle. Adding a drain line at the lower position to start the priming would help also. But yeah not an easy process to get going but once it’s full and going simple maintenance will keep you going for quite awhile. 😊

  • @Lead_Foot
    @Lead_Foot Před rokem +1

    3:58 EK only recommends using 0.3 bar of pressure for leak testing a whole loop.

  • @ZeMarkKrazee
    @ZeMarkKrazee Před rokem +6

    Out of context: 13:05 Linus: “Stop putting babies in the computer! 😩”
    👀

  • @Pheromost
    @Pheromost Před rokem +11

    This has been such a delight to watch, thoroughly enjoyed watching you guys engineer a mod that made it work so quickly too. Hope to see you dig into more crappy products and see what how quickly you can fix them.

  • @stephenhood2948
    @stephenhood2948 Před rokem

    Some newer vehicles have very complex coolant circuits that can be very difficult to properly purge the air from. They make a tool that goes on a cars coolant fill point and puts the entire coolant circuit under a vacuum, then allows you to fill the circuit under a vacuum. These tools, while fairly expensive, are very simple. Im sure there is some sort of a way of filling this using a vacuum, removing all air in one shot, plus you can use the vacuum as a leak test. Another leak test method used on automobiles that may or may not be helpful in leak testing a PC water coolant circuit is a smoke machine. You fill the circuit with pressurized smoke and look for the points where smoke leaks. Some of the smoke testing mediums have a dye, and anywhere there is a leak you can see the dye with an ultraviolet light. I really do think putting a vacuum on this would help, but the better choice would probably be in buying a product that doesn't require you to do so. $700!!! Yikes!!!

  • @Leo99929
    @Leo99929 Před rokem +2

    Sometimes you need to break surface tension to get bubbles to move. Feeding in a long flexible "stick" like some 3D printer filament can sometimes break the tension and let it flow. Or a length of super thin tubing.

  • @bdbdkdfotbrveiw
    @bdbdkdfotbrveiw Před rokem +30

    The level of excitement Alex has at 16:42 when they fix the problem is wholesome as fuck

  • @Blockistium
    @Blockistium Před rokem +73

    Alex is by far my favorite host. Such a unique intersection of brilliantly deadpan and ridiculously silly.

    • @coryandrum
      @coryandrum Před rokem

      More people should like this, He just never changed over years of hosting.

  • @-ColorMehJewish-
    @-ColorMehJewish- Před 10 měsíci

    I'd love to see you guys design your own liquid cooler by handbuilding w/ existing components and crafting a few if needed.
    Having ease of use/filling/maintenance, performance and easy of installation being some of the primary concerns.

  • @ISuckUnderPressure
    @ISuckUnderPressure Před 7 měsíci

    I designed and built a version of this that cooled 7.5kw at 75db or 4.5kw at 55db. You could whisper over it.
    It’s just a dry cooler. I just built a hefty one using a pwm controlled automotive fan and two d5 pumps. It cooled a “server rack” system in our two phase immersion tanks

  • @therealromeoadi
    @therealromeoadi Před rokem +12

    This is one of the most entertaining videos you put out in the last couple of months and I love it.

  • @anderssorenson9998
    @anderssorenson9998 Před rokem +16

    I want an LLT series on there own external rads, Like the radiator table they built I've watched that a half dozen times and it's still great.

    •  Před rokem

      i mean they already did that with coolers. I'd watch that

    • @anderssorenson9998
      @anderssorenson9998 Před rokem

      @ Yeah, It's such a shame they have to tear those builds down afterwards, it would be great to see how they stack up. Like the car radiator cooler done right.
      Also really curious to see their engineers do their own version of this external rad.

  • @ghoffmann821
    @ghoffmann821 Před rokem +4

    This reminds me of my apprentices trying to fill & bleed a boiler system for the first time. Let gravity and pre-filling everything possible guide you, fellas.

  • @ryancrowell441
    @ryancrowell441 Před rokem +1

    Ngl these videos are way more entertaining than actually informative tech vids

  • @MiyuHonkai
    @MiyuHonkai Před rokem +11

    Without a doubt, Alex's LTT vids are probably my favorite lol it's always a good time

  • @Respectable_Username
    @Respectable_Username Před rokem +24

    I would _love_ to see the Ultimate Cooling Chaos Duo try and one-up this thing in an afternoon! Or better yet, a livestream 😄

  • @Lukas_Miglioranza
    @Lukas_Miglioranza Před rokem

    I have a 1080 radiator, but I prefer the reservoir-pump group in the chassis, and the only epdm tubes going away to the radiator. That's 2 way of thought, I don't like much the reservoir pump group away from the chassis (here the reason was clear!), others put the pump with the radiator even if they have a lot of space. Thanks for the review.

  • @ariancenaj4141
    @ariancenaj4141 Před 9 měsíci

    We use same mechanism for furnance/central heating with diesel. The bubbles start forming when the tubes aren't tightened from reservour.

  • @TheCheat420
    @TheCheat420 Před rokem +32

    "These are clearly fans..."
    That's the kind of information I subscribe to LTT for!

    • @cdburner5911
      @cdburner5911 Před rokem +2

      It truly is some hard hitting reporting.

  • @Chloe_Priceless
    @Chloe_Priceless Před rokem +9

    That’s why I have a MORA next to my NCase M1 :) silent pc with easy quick release fittings and a „small“ radiator on the bottom of the case for lan usage … where only older games are running and don’t need much performance

    • @rubiconnn
      @rubiconnn Před rokem

      Is all of the added bulk and complexity worth it? I figure I would just go with a good air cooler and be done with it.

    • @ConquerorDash
      @ConquerorDash Před rokem

      @@rubiconnn water cooling is rarely "worth it". I use it because I can have powerful components and never worry about the noise. And also because it is cool.

    • @Chloe_Priceless
      @Chloe_Priceless Před rokem

      @@rubiconnn i done it because i wanted a relative small case which is "easy" Transportable to take it every year to the lan during the winter holidays with my friends. And for Gaming at home the NCase M1 is standing on my desk silently. I Have a 3080Ti in It and a Ryze 3700X (time for a Upgrade). At Lan the noise is forgettable. I Dont Like Big Cases but love Silence - i dont use Headphones (only on lans) .. at home i have good speakers.

    • @rubiconnn
      @rubiconnn Před rokem +1

      @@Chloe_Priceless I have a Ryzen 3800x and an RTX 2080 jammed into a tiny Silverstone SB13 case and a tiny Noctua nhl9i CPU cooler and it's more than adaquate for my 3800x running overclocked. I sewed a leather carrying handle for it and take it like everywhere I go lol.

  • @tomwolf2603
    @tomwolf2603 Před rokem

    i use an external rad since 2016, 480mm phobya rad with two 240mm fans. case is a HAF-X and it features those gromets on the back but in my case it has 3.. best case ever and the "car radiator" on the side bench have put smiles on many forum members.. :D
    also provides nice living room heating during winter lol

  • @xavierjiang7112
    @xavierjiang7112 Před rokem

    wait the old 12V + 5V mixed DC jack!
    I have seen those in some of our old industrial appliances. Pretty cool idea to re-utilize them for this.

  • @Nza420
    @Nza420 Před rokem +10

    I have had a Bykski waterblock/water cooled backplate on my 3090 for the last two years. The only issue I have had is the pump housing was defective and cracked after 5 months, but they acknowledged it was faulty and sent me a replacement at no charge (didn't even have to pay shipping). The setup was not cheap at all. I paid around $400 for everything.

    • @chillnspace777
      @chillnspace777 Před rokem

      Did you get the 3090 at retail pricing?

    • @Nza420
      @Nza420 Před rokem

      @@chillnspace777 I got it at super scalper pricing..

  • @Evan-lg1xp
    @Evan-lg1xp Před rokem +27

    Really enjoyed this video! I was really hoping you would fix their terrible design and you delivered! Nice stuff

    • @veitstel
      @veitstel Před rokem

      i have byksi waterblock on my 4090 and temps are great!

  • @R4STABAN
    @R4STABAN Před rokem

    I had a similar stand (not enclosure) about 7-8 years ago. I used a 9x120mm fan rad with 4x 200mm fans iirc to simultaneously cool 2 pcs in a single loop.

  • @birkschoberlein6160
    @birkschoberlein6160 Před rokem +1

    hey Linus take a D5 Res Combo from EK or other Manufacture, hook it with a Quickconnetors into the loop and spill the loop with the external pump, works a lot easier and your Shoes doesnt get wet.

  • @MixTheMetal
    @MixTheMetal Před rokem +6

    That was chaotic and rewarding to watch lmao.
    Definitely one of my favorite videos from LTT

  • @iLuvCats
    @iLuvCats Před rokem +6

    If I could go back in time I would get a degree and work for you. I smile so much when I watch all of LMG's content. Thanks guys n gals. Keep it coming. I watch everything every single day.

  • @amessman
    @amessman Před rokem

    1:23 I have one of those, Linus! The Zalman Reserator 1, it's blue.

  • @benzracer
    @benzracer Před rokem +3

    My first experience with watercooling was a DIY one. I made a better product with an oil cooler from oreilly auto and a pond pump.

  • @longshot789
    @longshot789 Před rokem +45

    I made my own loop just for my GPU out of bykski stuff, and I'm finding it surprisingly excellent.

    • @TheEchelon
      @TheEchelon Před rokem +43

      @@abowden5079 Nah I'm sure the individual components are fine. It's just the integration into a finished product is crap.

    • @Emetsys
      @Emetsys Před rokem +1

      Yeah I guess if you connect the fan controller to the motherboard then you are good.

    • @barsei1511
      @barsei1511 Před rokem +1

      tell this bykski, you should get a job and fix that 690$ mess.

    • @jtnachos16
      @jtnachos16 Před rokem +2

      Not particularly unusual for a company to make the BEST individual parts, only to completely crap the bed when it comes to making a self-contained product out of those individual parts they excel at.

  • @makhmal1776
    @makhmal1776 Před rokem +10

    Nothing better than than Alex and Linus creating havoc together

  • @jeffcalhoun3261
    @jeffcalhoun3261 Před rokem

    Thanks for the great content LMG! Just as the setup was derailing...the "babies" put me over the top. OMG! Sometimes you just have to go with it. On camera moding...loved this one! 😂

  • @alanalot
    @alanalot Před rokem

    I have one of those much hated 4070s and It fits fine in my 8.0L SFF case.
    Since it's a triple fan card it keeps it pretty quiet averaging about 73 degrees.

  • @Klokopf52
    @Klokopf52 Před rokem +11

    The first PC i ever build myself was cooled by a thermaltake Rocket. I loved that thing so much that im still trying to find one to use in my current build. Just not gunked up and looking like its 100 years old.

    • @Hellsong89
      @Hellsong89 Před rokem +1

      Looks rather simple design. You should be able to reproduce clone rather easily if some parts are gone crusty. Mind you can now days 3D print and cast plastic, well as make silicone molds that was before required pretty excessive amount of money.

  • @philippemiller4740
    @philippemiller4740 Před rokem +7

    very entertaining. I really enjoy the part where you tried fixing their design in a few minutes.

  • @martincolleran7109
    @martincolleran7109 Před rokem +4

    Might want to get a coolant funnel. May be a better way to fill the system.

  • @GoodGuyGlen
    @GoodGuyGlen Před rokem

    I think it's very wholesome that the tech review guys in this orbit are including videos of each other to dispel recent assertions there is hostility between them. I have no idea whether it is intentional, or whether I watched some bs that made me think there might be and all these recent inclusions of each other are purely coincidental: but I like it.

  • @kenhildebrandjr8225
    @kenhildebrandjr8225 Před rokem +12

    It would be nice to see a follow up to this video where you build your own stand alone water cooler that would be something that the average person could build or buy.

    • @sithus1966
      @sithus1966 Před rokem

      Maybe something that uses a small computer case as the chassie and other off the shelf components. Bet they could for under $690

  • @BaldrsFate
    @BaldrsFate Před rokem +5

    Best part about this whole build are all the babies

  • @K1ngMetr0
    @K1ngMetr0 Před rokem

    i love how he adresses the fans being at 3k rpms witch i literally have my fans spinning at 6k rpms and its sooo loud