Which Version of Kobe was Better - 8 or 24?

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  • čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
  • Fun fact, Kobe Bean Bryant is a pretty good basketball player. Actually he's high-key once of the greatest to ever do it. In his 18 years with the Los Angeles Lakers, Kobe's time was split between two numbers- number 8 and number 24. Which of those was the better version of Kobe, was it the younger Kobe in his athletic prime with no. 8, or the older, slower but more experienced Kobe with no. 24? Kobe has had a range of teammates from his time on the Lakers, from Shaquille O'Neal, to Kwame Brown and Smsh Parker, to Pau Gasol and even Dwight Howard and Steve Nash, but the one thing that was constant was Kobe Bryant's mamba mentality and killer instinct. It's for that reason that Kobe is a 5 time NBA Champion, 2 time NBA Finals MVP and an NBA MVP. He's one of the greatest NBA players of all time, up there with Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Shaq, whoever, Kobe is great, but which Kobe with his respective numbers were greater?
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    00:00 Intro
    01:59 Statistics
    03:12 Accolades
    04:24 Shooting Efficiency
    05:19 Scoring
    11:01 Defence
    13:10 Finals Performances
    15:52 Leadership
    19:44 Winning
    22:52 Final Verdict
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Komentáře • 34

  • @ThomasTheTankEngine22
    @ThomasTheTankEngine22 Před 3 lety +24

    Me: *looks at how long the video is*
    WELL PLAYED SIR

  • @haydenfarlow9524
    @haydenfarlow9524 Před 3 lety +13

    I disagree, I think Kobe was better than Kobe.

  • @beasting678
    @beasting678 Před 3 lety +7

    I think 8 kinda got cheated out of the accolades category because I think Kobe deserved the mvp in 03 and 06

    • @nzbg1132
      @nzbg1132 Před 3 lety +1

      finals mvp don't mean shit half the time

  • @miguelpascual824
    @miguelpascual824 Před 2 lety +5

    24 is better cause he carried his teammates by his own in 2009 and 2010 while 8 kobe has more rings cause of shaq

  • @randomperson2540
    @randomperson2540 Před 3 lety +7

    Yeah I think 24 is better

  • @michaelbowen6726
    @michaelbowen6726 Před 3 lety +5

    24:08, nice

  • @DeeRemedy
    @DeeRemedy Před 3 lety +4

    It’s really crazy that he’s not here anymore smh

  • @purvalama6540
    @purvalama6540 Před 3 lety +5

    LOVE THIS CHANNEL 🍻

  • @Kingbossdon
    @Kingbossdon Před 2 lety +1

    Give me Frobe all day 8 was a monster killer all the players who played against him even said it. 8 got the 3 pointer record at 12. Gave Michael Jordan 55 as a farewell 8 got the poster dunks 8 became the Black Mamba yea he lost in the playoffs but, that 05-06 season was still one of the greatest single seasons for a Player that is up there with Wilt 50.4 PPG Michael Jordan 88-89 season where he won 🏆 M.V.P and D.O.P in the same year up there.

  • @bobbysbluebooster
    @bobbysbluebooster Před 3 lety +4

    As someone who’s watched the NBA my entire life, Kobe is the closest to MJ we’ve seen. Not Lebron, or anyone else. Lebron is just superhuman but isn’t a killer like MJ/Kobe

  • @finnmolloydrum
    @finnmolloydrum Před 3 lety +3

    nice vid

  • @obitoxshinobi8978
    @obitoxshinobi8978 Před 3 lety +6

    rip idol Kobe 🙏 we will see him in heaven its not over yet I need that autograph Kobe 🙏😂👌

  • @BurpGotGame
    @BurpGotGame Před 3 lety +1

    Love your channel bro

  • @samcameron8715
    @samcameron8715 Před 3 lety +3

    Fuck yes red thunder best video on youtube

  • @haydensigurdson388
    @haydensigurdson388 Před 3 lety +3

    Greet Video I personally think 24 is better

  • @kingjrantegamingchannel9124

    Both

  • @kpolart4137
    @kpolart4137 Před 3 lety

    Who are you to say he was undeserving of being on the all defensive team a couple of times?

    • @RedThunder
      @RedThunder  Před 3 lety +1

      That statement tends to be pretty universally agreed upon by fans, and I was trying to be fair to both sides of the argument for both numbers, so hence why I said it

    • @kpolart4137
      @kpolart4137 Před 2 lety +1

      @@RedThunder Don’t try to be fair, just be fair. Being fair to both sides would have been to just use the actual facts of the matter, the facts of the matter is that his selection to those all defensive teams were “universally agreed upon” by the global panel that is authorized to select the players for those teams. So hence why he was deserving and not undeserving of those accolades.

    • @RedThunder
      @RedThunder  Před 2 lety +1

      Dude. Those awards are selected by the media, and the NBA media is well known for being very dumb and inconsistent with their voting on player awards. Most Laker fans who watched Kobe in his later years will tell you he wasn't playing defence like he use to because he just wasn't, and I showed examples of his lackadaisical defensive effort in the video which illustrate that point

    • @kpolart4137
      @kpolart4137 Před 2 lety

      @@RedThunder You’re telling me that those awards are selected by the media as if I didn’t know that and as if I didn’t already reference them as the ones who make the selections for those awards. But Anyway if the panel that selects the awards are dumb and inconsistent, then you shouldn’t acknowledge the accolades that they give out. I mean come on man, you can’t accept there accolades as legitimate only when you agree with their selections. Also you say the panel of voters who select those awards are dumb and inconsistent, in a way you are just like them, please don’t get me wrong here, I’m not saying you’re dumb at all I definitely don’t feel that you’re dumb, but you are inconsistent, because in the video if I remember correctly you said “24 chose to conserve energy on the defensive end” and that he “turned it up when the situation called for it” basically saying that 24 lack of defense was strategic. But now you’re telling me that 24 “wasn’t playing defense like he use to because he just wasn’t” and that his defensive effort was “lackadaisical” basically saying he was just careless & lazy on defense. So which one is it? Strategic or Lazy? Was 24 strategically conserving energy turning it up when the situation called for it or was he just lackadaisical (careless & lazy) on defense?

    • @RedThunder
      @RedThunder  Před 2 lety +2

      You referred to the media as "the global panel" as if everyone that votes on the awards sits down around a table and votes. So forgive me for momentarily thinking you had no idea wtf you're talking about. The media is always inconsistent with voting but for the most part the players that receive awards and accolades deserve so. However there are many instances where it's blatant that they are just clearly wrong, e.g. how tf does Marc Gasol win Defensive Player of the Year but also not even make all defensive first team in the same season.
      But in regards to Kobe, I don't understand why you're getting so hung up about me saying his later all defensive team selections were undeserved when that's literally not a controversial opinion that even Laker fans who are remotely objective will agree with, and there is a lot of evidence of that by reading people's opinions on Reddit about Kobe's later defensive team selections. It makes sense why he wasn't playing defence as hard as he was getting older and more injury prone, and the teammates around him were beginning to diminish in production, requiring greater offensive production from himself. It was a combination of wanting to conserve energy for the offensive side of the ball as that allowed him to produce more for his team overall, but also being careless and lazy throughout the regular season. I literally showed multiple examples of 24 not trying to close out on a shooter who's only a couple extra steps away. It doesn't have to be one or the other as you so dramatically put it in your last comment. Sorry I didn't emphasise Kobe being lazy in his later years in the video as I didn't want to unnecessarily disrespect the legend.
      And when you say "who are you" to choose if he deserves his all defensive teams or not- bro. It's not like I'm making a crazy outlandish controversial hot take here. It's me and fucking everybody else that watches the NBA and has an understanding of that time period and how Kobe played that's saying that. If you're saying Kobe legitamitely deserved his last couple all defensive teams, especially all defensive first teams, then you're the one who's making the controversial hot take, not me.
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  • @redthunderfan4510
    @redthunderfan4510 Před 3 lety

    rip kobe and views

  • @airhco15
    @airhco15 Před 3 lety +1

    Kobe(#8) in the finals that was nothing like lebrons lol Kobe stop shooting because the media and teammates were saying he needs to pass the ball more so he did it to show everyone he running the show lol but lebron mental was off

  • @dudelittle147
    @dudelittle147 Před 3 lety +2

    that is cool dude 💯 heart my comment if you read it

  • @ImperialDecree
    @ImperialDecree Před 2 lety

    Kobe had no Bynum or Ariza in 2008.
    Lakers would have beat the Celtics that year. :(

  • @code8014
    @code8014 Před 3 lety +1

    Y E S

  • @obitoxshinobi8978
    @obitoxshinobi8978 Před 3 lety +1

    #1MJ 6-0
    stayed in 1 team
    played with 2 superstars.
    Pippen n Rodman
    didn't leave
    #2ForKobe 5-2
    stayed in 1 team
    played with 2 superstars
    Shaq n Pau
    didn't leave
    .
    .
    .
    #5000LeBron 3-6
    2011 buddy buddy wade trex loses recruited another superstar Ray Allen
    Ray saved Le36 legacy 🤣😂
    2016 Kyrie saved Le36 legacy 🤣😂
    2018 trade buddy buddy Love IT 🌹 Wade
    2020 buddy buddy Le36 had commercial w DgayHoward
    Le36 BEG AD to join him
    LeRondo is a RING CHASERS
    LeTravel LeFlop Lecomplain at the ref 😂
    LeRecruitSuperstars
    Le36 wants Oladipo, Lavine, Luka, 🌹 n cp0=5 superstars
    to join him in LA with Le36 LeRondo LeAD DgayHoward 4 superstars
    4+5=9 superstar in 1 team
    thats equivalent to LeHelp me😂
    "want his dam respect"
    Le36 killed Kobe

    • @kai6952
      @kai6952 Před 3 lety

      wtf english my dude I had a seizure reading that

    • @TomPillberg
      @TomPillberg Před rokem

      ur not special for not liking lebron

  • @purvalama6540
    @purvalama6540 Před 3 lety

    LONG LIVE WEED