What The Hell Happened To Metal Gear Solid?
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- čas přidán 21. 09. 2021
- Very few franchises in this medium have the sort of unshakable legacy that Metal Gear Solid does. For decades, time and again, under Hideo Kojima, Metal Gear delivered back to back spectacular, genre defining, with hardly any dips to speak of, so it's fair to say that the series has earned its reputation as one of the best this medium has ever had to offer. And yet, for what feels like an interminably long time, Metal Gear has receded into the background. It's passed on into history, like it's a thing of the past, not something that we're actively thinking about and engaging with right now.
So how did it get to this point? How did we go from Metal Gear Solid dominating mindshare and delivering one masterpiece after another over a pretty long period of time, to it suddenly turning into a what is essentially a dead franchise? What the hell happened to Metal Gear? - Hry
Remastering/remaking MGS 1 is one of the top methods of "printing money" in the world, currently.
Just like EA when they announced Dead Space Remake.....
we need that mgs 1 remake it is my number 1 game of all time
Very close to Skyrim at this point
Personally, I think Metal Gear 1 and 2: Solid Snake from the MSX deserve remakes more as a modern upgrade would make them far more playable in this day and age and bring some new life to some less popular games in the franchise. An MGS1 remake would be really cool though still.
@@cheeseoholic I have said that for a long time. Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake remade to fit the Metal Gear narrative better.
"MGS is not something we're actively thinking about" - speak for yourself. I'm thinking about it every other day because I'm a huge stealth fan and stealth games now are so few I CAN'T HELP but think of whats missing
Exactly my thoughts!!! Speak for yourself buddy. I keep dreaming of any metal gear news. Remake/remaster of MGS would be a perfect way to get back into it
More than that, everything Kojima's memes he pitches with the subject matter and themes each game, they just ring as truer and truer every year. The collective consciousness of the internet manifestin in ai's (see the algorithm), how much information control and misinformation take a role in our construct of reality, that groups of people, nations, will only be enemies or allies on the times, there are no absolutes in global politics, just interests and image. The commodification and standardization of perpetual wars with the war economy *really* kicking it to high gear..... All of it makes more sense every year I get older.
If you're looking to venture into more into this line of thought, I *strongly* recommend czcams.com/users/FuturasoundProductions .Long form essays that dive *right* into the heart of the series and the contexts around their narratives and gameplay.
As always, until next time, Boss.
Checking my notifs everyday waiting for even just the smallest of mgs announcements. Best franchise in history imo.
Me too
The pain. You can still feel it as well, right?
The greatest series of all time. I hope they don't try to make any new ones, just let Bluepoint Games remake them
Ya, I'd love to see remakes of MG 1 and 2.
MGS1 by Bluepoint as well.
The rest still hold up, rly. (MGS1 still holds up imo)
Honestly, what I want more than anything in gaming, period.. Is for MGSV to be finished
... Kojima directs MGS(6) ..or Kojima directs "Death Stranding 2"
Real sht
Greg Dunn love that pic bro. Lifelong Niner here. And Metal Gear is right up there at the top of my favorite video game series.
V was shit
@@yougotrice9655 It was good, it wasn't great.
I mean they did the hd collection on Xbox 360 and ps3 and they were pretty good ports
They should do what the yakuza games did, remake/remaster the whole series. And V should get a directors cut edition.
Chapter 3 was gonna be a DLC, yeah crazy, but that's the reality
Mgsv is trash
@@mattwithat was it too hard for you? lmao
@@mattwithat opinions are like assholes, we all have one but some are shitty.
@@ricey1686 that would take years man, game development is no easy thing
Remember when Kojima recieved death threats when he momentarily moved away from directing MGS4?
I remember that was really mess up on so many levels
Who send the death threat?
@@annedrieck7316 a number of MGS fans did, remember bits of it at the time
@@annedrieck7316 psycho mantis
@@annedrieck7316 I did
Imagine mgs 1, 2, 3 and peacewalker remaked on the phantom pain fox engine.
Dude that would be game of the year material
If that were to happen, do you think David Hayter would make a return as the voice of Snake?
Nah, I think the MSX games deserve the remake way more.
*remade
The sprinting in phantom pain is awful. Feels so stupid running super fast non stop
"MGS3 - the best stealth game of all time. Period."
Yes. MGS3 was the best.
Agreed, just didn't like changing camouflage every other minute...
@@thomasnunes808 you didn't have too change everytime to gain an extra 5%. I just beat it MGS3 HD the other day on extreme and got the stealth camo. It was alright.
@@CeceliPS3 But I need that 5%. Just like I need to cut down every candle in Castlevania 😳
@@thomasnunes808 haha gotcha
MGS1 was the real master piece. But MGS5 was also soo amazing for it's creativity and replayability.
MGS3 was incredible and it is mostly everyone’s favorite. However, I love MGS4. I think it’s a good story and it incorporates advanced technology. I obtained the highest rank in both games. FOXHOUND and BIG BOSS!
I feel like MGS 4 is an absolute master work. Its elevates game design to an art form
Nah they runined it by making you play as old snake. Literally nobody wanted that.
yur mom's a art
@@packlesswolf1 Yeah it’s part of the story but atleast they give you a young snake skin to play with, and it even fits into the story
@@packlesswolf1 well he was a clone bro makes sense
MGS 4 was awesome. Anything after 4 just sucks ass
Mgs5 just didn't do it for me. Playing though the main missions was fun but the empty open world, mind numbing side missions and copy pasted second half pretty much ruined the game for me.
Blame Konami. They crippled the game. What's there is great, it was just missing stuff that had to be cut because Konami cut funding and gave Kojima a strict release window.
Yeah I replayed it recently and it was super fun, then suddenly i lost interest 100%.
@MPGrev You didn't like the side missions? Thrilling side missions like Prisoner Extraction 03, Battle the Same Tank Unit with Snipers Again 12, and Extract the Zombie Soldiers #45?
@@TheMoshPit26 lmao
@@CesarIsaacPerez nah the story was trash and it mishandled longtime characters. Not to mention the retarded vocal chord parasite nonsense. Gameplay wise mgs5 was great. The rest very much below mgs standards
man playing through the phantom pain this year was super enjoyable until the last few sections of the game and microtransactions creeped in. though the flaws were out of kojima’s hands, when the game was at it’s best was truly breathtaking and made you feel like you were the legend himself. In the end fans were robbed of a masterpiece. Makes me a little sad but there’s enough official info out there to put the pieces together and imagine the game as it should have been.
Im 5 seconds in and I feel like Im with an old friend who is in a coma and has been for years. Sad to see but I can never turn away from my favourite franchise.
I have been playing the phantom pain and yes it is still super fun being "the boss" and with Death Stranding and Ghosts of Tsushima releasing their Directors Cut, I want this to also happen with the phantom pain, finish what was meant to be released and sell it as a Directors Cut edition, that game truly deserves it.
I'd love it but it'll never happen man Konami got so petty with Kojima
You are " Big Boss"..... " The Boss " is a female from MGS3.
MGSV has the best stealth gameplay of any game ever, Period! Even with all its shortcomings, it’s still a masterpiece.
Splinter Cell was really good too but hiding in cardboard box will always be the best choice 👌
The stealth in that game never really stuck for my experience. If somehow they ever remake the games, I hope they build upon the stealth in MGSV.
MGSV is VERY far from a masterpiece, it's the worst game in the main series and the most inconsequential at the same time which in hindsight is a blessing.
@@TheAustin007powers no its not.
@@Slavic_Snake yes it is that game was far from what made the series great in the first place
Beating MGS1 when I was 6 years old after watching my brother play it for countless hours is my favourite childhood memory
I get giddy thinking about how responsive and fluid the controls were in Phantom Pain. They were perfect...and now that engine is sitting there doing nothing, gathering dust. Even if a MGS 1 remake on the Fox Engine turned out to be mediocre, I would still buy it just to play with those controls again.
What hurt most is Konami entirely remade Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater on the newest Fox Engine sadly its only for gambling dens
@@bamban_garcia5562 a real middle finger to the mgs fans imo
STOP ASKING FOR AN MGS1 REMAKE
The 8-bit MSX games deserve remakes far more.
@@They_are_Arthur Fair point!
@@They_are_Arthur Preferably, modern remakes of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, with the basic same story, but re-imagined with the FOX Engine and revised dialogue, FOLLOWED BY a FOX Engine remake of Metal Gear Solid! And while they're at it, remake of Portaple Ops, but with tolerable controls.
MGS1 for the playstation was literally the first game I ever played on the original Playstation and goddamn what a way to set the standards for what video games ought to be. For me its one of the finest stories ever told. Characters, voice acting, soundtrack (fuck! that soundtrack), even the codec conversations...classic.
"They're armed with five five Sixers and pineapples"
Metal gear solid needs Kojima for it to work, he put so much of his own identity and experiences into each game that makes it what it is.
The Gameboy Color game is Metal Gear: Ghost Babel, which is it's own original story separate from any previous games.
I was confused about that line in the video, as well.
@@chamchamtrigger This video is not very good, it covers so much basic knowledge that other videos have covered far better, like Futurasound
Hideo Kojima stated that part 5 was the last one, that's what happened. What a gaming franchise.
I feel like you guys drop a MGS video asking the same questions every couple of months…no complaints. I’m going to watch every one of them 😂
I loved the story up until MGS3. Just a thoughtful, well made and interesting narrative. The idea of the Patriots running the world and Eva being a Chinese spy was a great place to go.
But then you’re just a ninja with a sword and convoluted plot that is too far removed.
Well Kojima confirmed that MGR is not canon and he backseated its plot.
@@OldSnake0104 he never said that and I never see'em where did you even get that kind of info?
Peace walker needs a remake in the fox engine
This would make a lot of sense, especially given that MGSV took a lot of elements from Peace Walker and presented them in an open world format.
that's basically MGSV.
Mgs 5 felt like it had lack of a story. I lost interest. I was a long time fan. Part 4 was to me the end of the series.
Same, MGS had amazing plot and they showed it in the cutscenes (I never understood the complaints about them, they were amazing and I looked forward to them) MGSV tries to tell you a story through audio books and it's just not interesting/easy to miss.
Phantom Pain is my favorite game to this day.
I know it can't happen but god I wish we got a ww2 boss/cobra unit prequel
Excellent video! You described exactly how I felt after playing MGS5. Like the open world and lack of interesting boss fights kind of killed it. And let's be honest, QUIET is indeed hot. But also a big tease.
MGS5 had the potential to be the best game in the series if Konami had just allowed Kojima to finish the game properly
I blame Konami for destroying the metal gear solid franchise
You should blame Kojima for always going over budget and schedule.
I'd have Konami remaster the entire metal gear saga CHRONOLOGICALLY with unreal engine 5
*Fox engine
Excellent recap/review of the series
Even if Phantom Pain was clearly incomplete, it's still much greater than most of the "completed" stuff out there. That's saying something.
The irony of Kojima's filmmaker approach to the games where "the player is the director of their story" and he makes games with nearly hour long cutscenes.
Why are some people saying MGSV TPP was trash? When the game was literally a masterpiece and in everyone's top 10 PS4 games of all time. The definitive experience is a must have to every gamer.
I hope there's an animated series telling the story of Metal Gear Solid 👀
No we dont need no asian anime b.s gtfoh
@@hostilesavage4299 The series is literally written like an anime 🤷♂️🤦♂️
It would have been great if Phantom pain was finished. But in my eyes the only thing really missing was Venom telling Eli that he wasn't his real daddy.
my favorite of the series would have to be MGS3 even though its a close call between the first.
Mechanically the Phantom Pain is the best.. but from MGS4 when you return to Shadow Moses.. oh boy what an act
Snake Eater might be lowkey the greatest game ever made.
But, although not that epic, Phantom Pain is the most fun
@@quensoueu1 yea, phantom pain is hella fun! i just played it again like 4 months ago
The only good part of MGS4 was returning to Shadow Moses. I just hated playing as " Old Snake" . We finally get Snake in HD and they made him old ... So lame IMO.
Is it evan upscaled or hd yet. What a game memery.
Nice video
My dream, short of winning the lottery is Metal Gear Solid The Complete Series remade or remastered with the The Phantom Pain proper ending sold in one Boxset for modern day Consoles
We'll have to keep dreaming bro
I think an awesome remaster of the first MGS would def save the series. It would give a lot of ppl who are fans of the games a reason to buy a PS5 if it ends up being console exclusive. Hopefully the future is bright for MGS and Kojima. TPP was a slap to the face to all fans IMO, I couldn’t believe how unfinished the game was. So it is quite sad the final game had to be what it is.
I wish Ground Zeroes was the main title and Phantom Pain was the demo. Infiltrating GZ's base very much gave me that old Shadow Moses vibe.
best games series by far. Kojima is a genius, best in class. My only gripe is that MGSV missed out on the story and had basically no boss fights
Anyone who supports an MGS remake that Kohima isn’t involved with, is disrespecting him and everything he did.
Yeah like konami do to mgs 3 Pachinko machine 🤣
Remakes of the first 2 Metal Gear games is really a no-brainer to me. Even without Kojima it should be easier to execute with the fox engine, and since those games are so old (and with story additions and rewrites) it would “close the loop” between Phantom Pain and MGS1.
Idk why they would start by remaking 3, it’s still very playable unlike the MG games. If Konami wanted some easy money, they would rerelease the legacy collection on PC and next gen consoles, people will buy it!
Damn I'm tired of these people who shit on TPP and are being wrong in every single take
The success of The early Resident Evil franchise remake - a remake would be incredible.
Right in the middle of me replaying mgsv, good timing
Honestly, I don't think there even needs to be a remake for any of the games. Just make them available everywhere. The first MGS is still incredibly fun to play even though admittedly the PS1 graphics don't hold up too well.
I'd say it works well, just that the game controls didn't age
A remake should be for the MSX games the original games, but knowing Konami that's the last of their interest, and you need someone who's like Kojima to make that remake work as well
I'm in when they remake mgs1 as re 1 with new texture and models but the hearth unchanged.
I liked the reveal in MGSV and it was always going to be controversial but I think the biggest problem was HOW it was revealed. Very abrupt. I think done differently a lot of people would’ve liked it better.
Id completely agree with that, the reveal was very abrupt. It couldve been built up like the reveal of who Revan actually was in KOTOR instead we get an abrupt reveal that wasnt really set up all that well.
Outstanding video!!❤️❤️❤️❤️
A remaster of the games in the Decima engine,would be a dream come true.
Hideo Kojima should have taken this with him
Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way
Snake Eater is my favorite! I may end up buying it today just to play it once more.
Can we just get a MGS trilogy director cut with 60 frames and enhanced graphics 👀
The David Hayter switch makes all the more sense now knowing the story’s big reveal.
Except that it should've still been Hayter in Ground Zeroes.
I like KS better. His voice acting is just better. Nothing against Hayter.
@@DialloMoore503 all the 5 lines he spoke
@@Magnusfication
“Woah! Woah!”
MGSV is a good game. I spent enough time to have 1.5 million heroism. The game is massive. Took awhile to feel repeatitive as the enemies rank up with you.
Awesome stuff. I have s rank everyone. HAD 2 ppl from ground zeros. But... Kojima... Is in the game as a soldier.
Some epic stuff!
Reached 1 mil heroism a few days ago. It sure took a long ass time
@@Slavic_Snake i did each mission over and over. To get the best possible specialists. Theres an s ranked robotics guy. I had the heroism at 1 million before passing the code walker mission
@@davincisdemons3126 that doesn't sound like fun. I never grinded for heroism since it's pointless after reaching 150 000 or 250 000. I just got it after 350 hours of gameplay.
Someday I’ll one hundred percent the game.
@@Slavic_Snake its not pointless... At 1 million heroism, S ranks are everywhere! In every mission. And also the specialists like the robotic guy is S rank. But.... But.... As u do the robotics guy mission, he will be c rank. Then b rank. Then A. Then A+ and after HOLDING each rank, he will be S rank. Meaning 5 times doing that mission, and u can start farming S ranks robotics guys. Until you let go of the prior low ranked specialists... So... Theres a reason
It ended perfectly. Completely wrapping around back to the beginning.
It would be neat to see a 3d stealth interpretation of the msx games where we actually take out venom.
If they remade 1, 2, 3, and 4, I’m preordering!
the story is over. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
They should atleast remaster these games. This series is extremely memorable and one gamings best series. Im suprised we haven’t really gotten a remaster collection
We need a modern version of metal Gear and Metal gear 2
That opening scene THOUIGH !
Having not played any of the games except for MGSV, I would be totally fine with remakes of the old games on the Fox engine with MGSV's mechanics. V has me absolutely hooked on the franchise.
Will forever be my number 1 series. MGO2 was my favorite online game that I ever put my time into.
MGO 2 PC
I think if Kojima could get the rights to MGS (if he ever wanted to) the best move he could make is MGS 5 Directors Cut
They need to make a MGS game with Gray Fox as lead.
Been a Kojima fan since the Pizza hut demo disk came with the XL pizza, over 20 years ago.
Hideo had never been wrong. Death Stranding was his masterpiece.
I just can't believe that IGN give this uncompleted MGS game a 10/10....
Money talks
I love all of the Metal gear games! The story was great 👍
A metal gear solid game about the boss set in ww2 would be awsome, the stealth/survival during the war and actually having more screen time to one of the most pivotal characters of the franchise. And maybe we could see her go against the philosophers and maybe more information about them like who they are in person.
I believe the Phantom Pain’s reveal is one of the best plot twists in the History in games and movies alike, seeing the Medic taking all that burden with an extreme loyalty and just go along with the plan until the end is just too deep, people can’t understand that.
I don't think he had anything to say about it. they started hypnogogia and planting memories while he was still in coma. he only remembers at the end of the game.
MGS5:TPP isnt even bad. Imagine if Kojima wanted to make it. And wasnt rushed, cant forget to mention that. Hard to believe it could have been even better aside from it needing the rest of the story.
Edit: I wanted to point out @GamingBolt that MGS2 wasnt an INSTANT classic considering for a little bit after its release hardcore fans thought it was bad because you didnt play Snake for the main story.
They should remake Metal Gear 1 and 2. So much possibility for adding more to a PS5 game from original Famicom games. Plus would be perfect follow up to MGSV since that’s essentially where the series leaves off.
We need the full story released in chapters in chronological order, Chapter 1: Expanded remake of MGS3 + Peace walker, Chapter 2: MGSV complete directors cut, Chapter 3: MSX games remade, Chapter 4: MGS1,2&4. I'd honestly pay 100 for a special collectors edition of each chapter, I know there's a few million other MG fans who would too. HEY KONAMI, WANNA MAKE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS?
If they ever remake any metal gear games in any capacity at all. Kojima needs to be involved.
If he isn't that's gonna be a insult to his work, and I for one am not interested in playing a remake without Kojima involved.
there is definitely things that can be done with the metal gear series that could work and make money, remakes would work as the story and everything is already there so kojimas influence would still exist, maybe a rising 2 as platinum worked on 1st so it might work. i just hope something can be done for this series.
What happened is Konami stuck their oars in. Wanting to control the franchise which caused bad blood with many of those who worked for Kojima Productions including Hideo. Kojima Productions felt that Konami were the publishers and not developers, The franchise was dead when Konami blocked Hideo from attending video game conferences, Then booting Hideo off the project causing Hideo and his team to leave. I think after 30 years Hideo had, had enough of the franchise, If he hadn't you can bet Hideo would have fought to take the I.P with him. Konami were the reason why MGS died during MGSV. Survive is an absolute joke.
They need to remake the old school retro famicom ones.. I need to know what happened on Zanzibar… IN 4K
When I saw the remastered cutscenes of MGS 3 my heart stopped, thinking we'd get a remake. Turns out they recreates the cutscenes in full hd just for some pachinko machines. If they actually went ahead and remaster MGS 3 they'd swim in money right now
How are games they need to put effort in more profitable than exploiting gambling addicts
@@yodarusev sad but true. Konami like every other company is no welfare and they have to compare what they ae putting in and what they are getting out. Thats why the mobile sector is much stronger than the AAA Sector
their current ceo cut his teeth making mobile games rife with micro transactions and it’s what got him where he is. all konami cares about is the bottom line.
I could see a series of remakes of the resident evil remakes quality, that would be very welcome.
Peace walker was fire very addictive 🔥🔥
Ikr it was my first metal gear when i was 7 yrs old. Growing up i played all MGS Games and all i can say is that its part of my life haha. It saddens me mgs is out of its path rn
If GZ AND PP were released as one game and the game was actually finished as it should of been it could of been one of the best games ever
My friends: what game can you compare to these incredible games nowadays?
Me: Metal Gear Solid 1-5
My friends: this is literally all you talk about.
All stealth games have faded into the background. Splinter cell, dishonored, Deus Ex, ect. Now stealth is a part of a wider experience like in far cry, Skyrim, cyberpunk ect. But now the market doesn't believe that a stealth game would sell.
Movie on the way, new rumors of the remastered trilogy, I'm in.
MGS5: "Language controls the world"
GamingBolt: "MGS IS A DEAD SERIES"
This is a totally great video, but it kind of disproves the point that MGS is a dead franchise. I mean, the last game is six years old and there’s a new MGS video on CZcams every two weeks? Seems alive to me! KJP forever!!
Kojima is the dm that wants us to follow hIs path & engage with his characters but you don't mind because its so fricking good
Just shows how shite the quality of games are nowadays that all we want are remakes and remasters.
Seeing Armstrong brings back bad memories...that was a tuff battle
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Nanomachines son.
@@RogueSeraph word...
I wish we got to see the full phantom pain story 😭😭
i miss it so much, i hate Konami since then. Love the Series. Never forget the First Time i walked in the Storage Room from MG Rex.
hands down my favorite game saga, with MGS1 being my favorite game of all time
The interesting thing is that Kojima said he is content with how MGSV ended up. The cut content isnt something he is missing
Exactly! So many people are delusional about MGSV's content. MGSV is the definitive Edition.
I was so bumped out when mgsv ended. It was half way done, and the damn robot that that engineer had worked on since he arrived at base that we would obviously need for a boss fight was never mentioned. 😢😢
I saw Snake's ID reveal coming from miles away.
Mgs1 on ps1 was the goat. I played it during the 1st lockdown and it is still the goat
I agree
Portable Ops is still partly canon. The ending scene with Ocelot is mentioned in MGSV.