The NEW Eldar: Not Monopose! | Models and Memories Weekly #46
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In this episode of Model and Memories Jay talks about the New Eldar Rangers, the new releases from LVO and he talks about what he worked on this week!! We have new videos every Monday, Wednesday and Friday! We're streaming Monday-Saturday starting at 9PM CST!! JOIN USSSS! Thanks for watching!
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Is anyone gonna talk about how he didn't say "how" in the intro? My life is now in ruins. I'll never recover from this.
The death corps plastic kit really sold me on partial monopose kits. Enough options to customize your guys and make them unique, but still easy to put together and with very good posing. Primaris kinda get that for some of their kits, but its hit or miss. Aggressors especially are a kit I want to love even more than I do, but you basically just build the same 3 guys over and over. But, its cool to be able to take a bunch of primaris stuff to use on my firstborn. The shoulder shields are amazing, and some of the posing for weapons and arms is perfect for spicing up my sergeants
Since plastic guardians, Eldar plastic kits always had ball joints in waist, neck and shoulders (even some metal kits had shoulder ball joints) so these were always super posable and I was able to create very dinamic poses for my Guardians and Dire Avengers. Even Striking Scorpions do not really look all that monopose since you can do a lot with the single ball joint sword arm. Downside might be that its also easy to screw it up and make all your troops stargaze etc.
They're not stargazing, they're looking at you, the player.
And yet everyone posed them the same way. Just like all those ‘multi pose’ first born marines. They all looked the same
@@craigjones7343 really? Are you sure you’re looking at the right places cause heresy players do some awesome stuff, cant speak for 40k
Yeah, some of the goofs on those joints get pretty gnarly though. I have a wraith knight I didn't give the glue enough drying time for the ankles. Now it is learning forward like it's guest starring in a Michael Jackson music video. Hilarious, but not the intended outcome lol.
I gotta say, over the course of the last few months Models and Memories has become one of the videos I look forward to most every week.
I know what you're thinking: HOW could I like it more than the other videos and live streams? Well. I. Do.
Read it as "new eldar: not menopause!"
Boy was I relieved to see I was wrong
for what it's worth, Brenda's monopose kit is super sprue efficient and the squad leader for the troops is posed as cool as a character and a deluxe tactical rock
Modularity is what makes GW models so good.
The primaris marines do this VERY well. Feels like all the primaris kits were intended to be kit-bashed.
So uh, Jay... I'd love to see you paint those Infinity models.
The fact that they didn't throw a sprew of the new cultists in that box is outrageous. It would have cost them pennies and filled out the chaos side.
They are putting out new cultists soon
man i wish the new ork boys had options. I got a combat box and there really is no customization possible out of the box. I wish they were designed like the ork kommandos from kill team, just let me change the arms please.
Yeah, I really feel like they did the new ork boys dirty.
That box really makes no sense, the only two ways I see it making sense are 1) it's done out of pure greed, or, 2) there is a multi part kit otw but has been postponed for whatever reason
Really enjoyed being in that vc for LVO. it was really great chatting to the nerds
Glad to see Felix getting some well deserved attention, I'm printing something of his right now. I was surprised you didn't mention his medical situation as it's posted in the description for each of his models. This would have been a great opportunity to spread the word!
Yeah I was about to say the same thing. Check out his website. He needs a kidney replacement and needs the communities help
As you were talking, I could just sense the excitement you have. Same as when Bandai started making Real Grade kits... I just love what kind of technology goes into kits. No matter if they are model kits or miniatures... Just love that plastic industry...
I have been a patron of felix’s for ages and he got me into 3D printing and into kroot/tau. Love to see you giving him a shout out!!
(Also you are by far the best hobby channel on the internet)
That nighthaunt model…. Wow. I want it.
Perhaps the Chosen sprue are setup that way because…… the options available are what you can take on the codex, like the Plague Marines…. You get 1 flail, and you only get 1 flail for every 5 plague marines…. So maybe the new chaos codex you can only have 1 set of lightning claws…..
Love your positively it's really infections. Thanks for your videos.
Can’t wait to see your infinity models. Currently building an o-12. Really enjoying painting them up.
Normally those big boxes are a good deal, even if you're only buying it for the half you're interested. But if it's really $200 that averages out to $12.50 per miniature which is pretty freakin nuts. Dark Imperium averaged three bucks per mini!!
Watched the LVO announcements with my wife. Knew a lot of it was coming but didn't see the corsairs coming AT ALL! I'm pretty sure I did a little dance. I enjoyed watching those poor guys struggle at being excited at 6am in the UK. You could tell they had like espressos sitting right off stage they would dip out and sip during the videos =D
Sadly, GW didn't bring on the Exodites...
100% getting that AoS box.
Chosen look great, plenty of options.
Love your stuff brother, even if I’m from across the pond.
No how.... NO HOW... WHAT IS HAPPENING!? 🤯
I nearly spit out my tea. I always get excited to hear what variation of HOW we get. I'm not sure if I'll recover from this emotionally.
Brenda definitely got the new Ork Boys, but whoever made the Kommandos knew what they were doing. Seems like all the Kill Team kits are being made that way, as dynamic as hero models but still just enough variability to make them all look unique.
I'm more into AoS than 40K though and the best kit I've ever seen has to be the Rockgut Troggoths, which their website does a terrible job of selling. That kit is an engineering masterpiece and literally any of the 15ish build options makes the models look fantastic.
The whole Ned v Brenda situation is really interesting. Would love to know how they decide what kits get more love too. God bless Ned.
I bet its a madhouse at GW, they come out with new plastics almost every week
Was one set of metal marines which had ball jointed arms. Loved those ones. Made the arms super possible, but stupidly hard to get the arms
What happened to the ... "HOW"?? Looking forward to how... you would say it this week!
Yeah yeah new stuff.. your segue into merch is really why i watch
I really don’t mind the semi monopose minis. My marines have all been the same legs and bodies with different arm options to make the unit all look different. The intercessors kit is one of the better kits I’ve assembled.
My Rubric marines are basically monopose from a practical perspective because they have to have the gun in their hands. That’s fine too.
Interesting points about monopose vs the hybrid GW version we are getting nowadays.
Awesome shoutout for felix. You should do a 3D community shoutout more often, super cool.
I was there in the discord call! so much fun ^^
So happy to hear this. I’m not big on unhelmeted Eldar. Hopefully, 2 boxes will solve that!
Very much agreed
Tbh I like the no helm guardians theyve shown just not the rest the guardian head shape just looks far crisper then the others
You really caught me off guard with that 'how' and I think its fairly safe to say, so was everyone else.
Glad you mentioned the Bladeguard, just looking at the sprue it makes you think the bladeguard should have an option for dual wielding swords due to the fact they've got swords for both arms. The fact that GW didn't take that into situation is pathetic, I mean I managed to make a Assault Intercessor Sergent wielding a plasma and bolt pistol akimbo style FROM THE PUSH FIT STARTER SET! And he's got a chainsword on his side as well so these limited loadout options Primaris get are even more aggravating for me.
if it comes with both left and right-handed swords, what is stopping you from putting both on a model?
@@EonsOfBattle Good point, if I ever get any bladeguard I am totally having them dual wield. I mean like I said, I managed to take the push fit bits for assault intercessors and made a sergeant dual wielding pistols with a chainsword on the side. It is awesome looking.
So long as the models in the same faction have a uniform body width/depth, most arms/arm pairs should be swappable with minimal work
I really like what I’m seeing with the eldar models, but I have too many armies and unpainted minis for my taste (2.5 - technically 3 rule books but the minis for my two marine chapters have like 90% overlap where the minis can go to either).
I really want a craftworld army with a harlequin patrol attached for the funsy of it. Maybe when they get a combat patrol
I was expecting this weeks "how"!
The "how" thing is a must!
H0w can't u say it!! 😭😭😭
I played the intro twice just to double check.
How do you dare to like the comment?
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Hey! A Kroot DoDo bird! Love it! Not too many humans would dare hunt these guys into extinction. I'm sure they don't taste good, either! Thanks for sharing, Jay!
I'm super excited for the Eldar Corsairs! I'm definitely going to have a kill team and I'm even considering a full 40k army, especially with the new Guardian models.
You casually dropped the S-word and you'll also notice GW hasn't announced the other faction for the box. I'm thinking it'll be the new Squats, not only because space dwarfs vs space elves makes sense, but also because it's 2 og Rogue Trader groups everyone loves.
I would buy the hell out of sprues of just weapon options. Oh well, I guess it's time to heat up the 3D printer to make bits.
I'm normally pretty annoyed about people just printing 40k models (even more so with recasts), but I'm all for printing extra weapons, accessories and the like. There is almost always just 1 little thing missing when I am putting together a custom figure out of a kit, so if I had a printer I would probably do a ton of odds and ends to make my guys that little bit more personalized
Why should Gw update old models if people just make their own? Why even have a 10th edition.
@@SWIFTO_SCYTHE1: At no point did I suggest not buying GW models, all I said was that I was going to print some accessories to spruce them up since GW doesn't include enough in the box. In my post I literally said that if they made a bits sprue I would buy it, but they don't so I'll print the bits I need. 2: Even if folks DID start completely 3D printing entire armies as standard it would hardly be the death of the game. Battletech fully endorses 3D printing and can be played on the tournament level using cardboard cut-outs. It isn't as fun, but hardly the death of a game. 3: Frankly many of the better sculptors are selling better models than GW makes.
More pictures please. When you were talking about the chaos models I wanted to see them.
Negativity sucks. Hobby is fun. Secretly the algorithm loves positivity in good communities.
If facebook research showed us anything , then it is the opposite. Grouping people angry about same things works best.
im surprised you didn't mention the necromunda ash wastes teaser it looks really cool from what they have shown us
I hope we see more cloaks with Eldar models. It's always been the more spindly and fragile look that has turned me away from Eldar because I'm shallow like that. I really like much of the lore though and the wraithbone architecture and crafting it from the mind thing. I like this aesthetic. What can I say? I like big cloaks and I can not lie😁
that was super ultra duper super good...
The Chosen kit looks an awful lot like the Havoc kit. If you wanted to build a squad with all lascannons, you'd have to buy 2 kits. Same for Rocket Launchers. If you want to build a squad of Chaingun dudes, you have to buy 4 boxes! Awesome. ... or buy 3D printed bits.
After having a 3d printer for several months, I can't imagine going back. It's such an unbelievably useful tool for customizing models, not to mention just printing models outright.
In case it wasn't commented already: seemingly there was an accidental leak with an URL which named a Kill Team Box with corsairs and "CSM". Which can't mean anything else than Chaos Space Marines, obviously. Which would make me happy in a Box. When the Terrain going along with it rocks, I might get really happy.
Not warhammer related but, man o man the hair is looking good. Wavy!
And don't forget the new Ork kommandos. The instruction doesn't say that, but you can put any head/backpack/hands on pretty much any body (is this also the case with Krieg vets?)
The Krieg heads go to certain bodies thanks to the rebreather tubes and the box on the chest they go to.
Arms are paired like the Cadian sprues, but I'd argue they're a blend of the regular trooper box and the command squad box given the possible loadouts
You can do a ton with the kommandos. I ended up getting an extra sprue cause of a mispacking, and I now essentially have 20 guys just from kit bashing random bits together in unintended ways with basically no trimming down and no green stuff
@@peteshields6948 The extra sprue gives you some more options. Although frankly, changing out heads isnt super important when every single guy looks so similar through the entire regiment
super super cool!
I honestly agree with you, the whole multi pose vs mono pose is a nonstarter argument for me. I don't understand why people rail so hard against mono-pose. The Multi pose models are never really good. they are never really that versatile. it's not like you get 10 unique models, just a few with higher arms or lower aimed guns. I would much rather have mono-pose, you can still cut and convert just like multi-pose. and even better is this hybrid option that GW seems to be doing. Also, Eldar are kind of perfect for mono-pose over multi-pose as they are kind of the consummate MSU army. with often only having 5-man squads and most units being a max of ten.
Its because modular makes it way easier to build whatever you want and make your army unique and give it a personal touch. Monopose just makes everything look the same and its hella boring. It curbs creativity and thats just insanely dumb for a hobby like this. If a model is monopose I literally immediately los interest in it. And if you know what you're doing you can make modular models look just as good or even better than monopose ones. Thats why Primaris marines are super lame compared to trueborns, for example.
Something is up with GW. The eldar range is so clean and changeable but Orks got shafted with monopose boys and you need to two boxes to get just one squad of choppas or shootas.
Now in 2023 with Death Korp in the guard codex!!!!
Trust me Marines make good corpses, got one that I used for thr AoS Avatar of Khaine I have.
Repentia kit comes with 18 eviserators for 9 models for extra poses maybe thats a ned kit
Hope my swooping hawks get some love next.
I’m just praying for some new models for gaunts for nids. I love my running boys but they need a serious balance fix. (We’re running out of pennies 😂)
yah the gaunts are good models but they do NOT fit on 25mm bases.
I'm betting Eldar modularity is so that GW doesn't need to do any new Eldar models for another 30 years
Warp... Spiders
Even if they get 5 pair of lighting claws in a box, if you play a 10 man squad of chosen for rules you can give only 4 with lightning claws plus the champion
gw and I quote is a "miniatures company, not a games company"
miniatures should be the point
I can accept this with the separate legs and fully compatible arms, the phobos for example pretended to do this and I’ve hated every release like that. I still think dark eldar and space marines are a better style system
On the whole fly on the wall thing - 100% wish GW were more open about the process. All their communication is just carefully-composed PR, I wish they'd get a bit more real and show us more behind the scenes. I guess maybe we wouldn't like what we see.
But did you peep that true-scale First-Born Marine on the base of that new Bloodthirster?
i really feel like monopose get to much of a bad wrap. i personally prefer the monopose body with arms that be changed. a good 50/50
Tbh usually ain't hard to cut off mid section and torso swap either
@@artorias5737 where there is a will there is a way. like the once that kitbash metal minis
Good luck with the Novitiates; those separate little faces are probably the smallest GW pieces I’ve ever encountered.
Of course the boxed sets don't include enough options to do a full load out of the same weapon. If they did, you wouldn't have to buy multiple boxes to get all the parts for your dream unit.
Mono-pose or not I will still chop them up...I haven't build a model following the instruction in the last 10 years
Personally not the biggest fan of the new "semi modular" kits...
the issue I run in to is: The main bodies are still going to look similar. It took some real work to try and get my Primaris Crusader squads not look like 4 times the same models.
I think I would've had less of a problem with it, if either there were 10 unique models in the box. Or some slight changes, where the legs (which are the biggest offenders) were a bit more, modular.
I love that the legs are multi part in these kits, but it would be great if they could be configured in a few ways.
And configure them like: AA, BB, CC, AB, AC, BA, BC, CA, CB
But allas... I don't think that will happen...
I can't pick a favoite materal for minis as I've seen companies mess up each one... Like GW can't resin, Wizkids(Star trek attack wing) can't plastic, and warlord games(Bolt action, Victory at sea, Blood red skies.)couldn't do anything a few years ago... Which War lord games now do Resin like GW plasitic, Catalist(Battletech) does Plastic like GW and Corvus Belli can do metal like GW plasitc! So yeah it depends on what a company is good at... Though still a good plastic model is something else.
One thing I think I'd actually like to see from games workshop is wearable helmet replicas I'd buy one big time.
No need to wait for a GW one!
Pay less, support a maker, and have more customization buying from Etsy sellers!
I have that Green stuff world sticker on my PC. it's awesome.
BTW dude, have you used the GS world liquid pigments before? I got a great recipe from Trovarion for doing snow bases with the blue and white liquid pigments, and GS world snow. I'm going to take a it a step further using the frost effect though.
I got some of those alien turquoise tufts from gamer grass as well, for my frozen bases (as they have a really nice cold look to them) These are going to be for my Black Templar.
I'm either going with this Frozen Planet look, or if I don't like that I'm going to do a mix of yellow and red desert style base. I really like the mars looking bases for BT, but I would like to make mine a bit more varied so they're not all red. I have seen some awesome ones that are like a mix of earth and mars desert style.
Really hoping the frozen planet look works though, as been wanting to do something like this for ages. I was originally going to do Valhallan Imperial Guard, but I've gave up hoping for updated Guardsmen kits, and using 3rd party bits is too risky in case I end up wanting to use them at sanctioned events.
I'll be sure to send you a before/after though once I have some painted up. I'm getting an order from GS world next weekend, so should hopefully have some pics for you in a couple of weeks. Hopefully you will choose to feature them, as that would be awesome.
Suppressors are still not got a box. Was in vanguard start collecting now only in the more expensive combat patrol?
We really need some proper emojis for text based communication that aren't these inane smilies. We should do it like the Necrons and have unambiguous emotion signifier glyphs that we can append to the end of our statements.
The Maugan Ra is cool, but he looks like a C'tan to me. I'll probably just put the old one on a bigger base
Maugan Ra on a sufboard/sea base?
I won’t ever forgive them for ruining the ork boys kit. How the hell am I going to have a green tide with the same 8 boys over and over again
Gotta get creative. Grab some AOS orcs and give them sluggas. If you don't care about GW tournaments, get some 3rd party orcs for kitbashing, or get into 3d printing. We are Orks, we're used to saying "screw it I'll do it myself" XD.
@@demon1103 that's a considerable amount of money to spend
@@calastyphon3414 If you've been in the hobby for a while, and have a stocked bits box, kitbashing the Sigmar Orruks into 40k Orks isn't quite as cheap as just buying the old Boyz kit, but it's not too bad unless you're needing to buy a bunch of bits.
@@calastyphon3414 Making a green tide is always gonna be a decent chunk of $$$. However it's not necessarily too much worse to get some variety, if he wanted to build a green tide anyway he'll probably have the old boyz kit which is a bits treasure trove. The AOS orcs have decent pricing to them (20 savage orcs for $55/ 15 ard boyz for $57). So just take the extra bits from the old boyz kit and do some good ol' kitbashin.
@@adamhanson5565 I mean that doesn't change the fact that 1) an army is significantly less intuitive for new players thus violating rule of cool and 2) Games workshop still ruined the set
Late 90s kits where nearly all like this.
You should buy all the chaos champions kharn the betrayer, typhus herald of the plague god, ahriman, lucius the eternal the paint them all in one video
I bought myself the new Kommandoz very recently, and it hurt my soul so much to see how painfully mono-pose they are. Guess I'll have to raid my bits boxes and sellers for the pieces I want=)
are they that mono pose though? aren't their different weapon options and you can swap all the heads and arms?
@@EonsOfBattle Ah no, it looks like you're right. But if I want anything else out of them other than shootaz and choppaz (bar the odd accessory) I will have to raid my bits box.
I really want to get the no to pots shirt if a second version comes out. The grammar and design bother me a little.
“SAY” is not an important element. “no” is
Not sure if it just me but it feels like it should be (cost a fortune/make you a shill or costs a fortune/makes you a shill)
Great piece of art, drug reference is fun, perfect print or poster design for a dude bunker
Well my dudes 9th ed "option" for new models was a helmet. At the same time fur, hair etc looked much better in metal .
What about the WarpSmith sculpt?, Just a spikier TechMarine, feels like they took the same file and put lots of pointy stuff☹️
GW decides with a dice roll
HOW!
A tactical rock?
Does Maugan Ra have a Necron head??
tau beem doin' this for years
You mentioned the Orks, in my opinion the new ones are kind of a downgrade, the new kit looks great but it's very mono pose, options are definitely not there you mentioned with new eldar (you get what 3 shootas of 10 (or 11) boyz, when the whole squad can have it, at least with the arms and putting the chest on legs, you had some options in posing and small conversion, if you want to do something like that with the new boyz (only mono pose option, unlike sm and csm coming in both mono pose and then arm options), which is very strange for something you're gonna have a lot more of then the others.
Edit: posted before watching full, yeah the chosen weapon option is weird, why not have everything in the box, are people gonna buy a new kit for 2-3 weapons? The new Havocs, so many where hyped for the (then) new railgun.. and you got 1-2 weapon for a 5 man squad, just... what?
I agree with the Bloodthirster, it's probably the coolest one yet (really like skarbrand) and it's the Bloodthirster that fought Sanguinius to try get Blood Angels over to Khorne, also something different with him, he can be patient and plan things, not just roar and 'blood for the blood god!' blindly, it's the same here though, really really cool model... oh it's Forge World, so resin.. no thanks.
Holeeh shit 17 seconds ago this was posted.
Not random, its knowing what will sell more than other things is all.
Oh you are sure milking the controversy these days. Good job. I have agreed with every option you present so far. Lol
Where's the "how"?!
Metal minis are hard to get away from if you’re an old man. Plastic was the plebs version of minis forever, and paying $35 for just plastic feels a lot like divorce court to me…
I think Brenda mainly does Blood Bowl miniatures. They suck.
that darn Brenda
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I'm genuinely surprised. I honestly thought they'd just continue making clone statues like they've been doing in recent times.
Getting back into the hobby after a 12+ year hiatus I have to say the monopose kits were one of my biggest turn offs.
Hopefully they'll continue this trend and improve it with future releases.
18:20 -getting some Arctic Thunder arcade vibes 👌 🧊 ❄️ 🔥
Super dope?! The new Maugan Ra is a joke! It is as if someone thought that taking things up to eleven is too little...
ball joints are less of a modelling issue and more of a modeller's issue...
The new box has nothing on the dark vengeance box in my opinion