No Crank No Start! Not what YOU Think! 2012 Hyundai Elantra 1.8

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  • čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
  • Customer States: Engine does not start sometimes, you turn the key and nothing happens.
    This 2008 Hyundai came it with an intermittent no crank condition. What is happening is the starter and the engine to not turn on when the ignition key is. The failure doesn't happen all of the time. We checked out the simple things first like the battery and the battery cables. The ignition system seemed to work normally and the relay also checked out. The diag went down to the starter motor and we had to use a spliced wire lead to connect a test light for more diagnostic information.
    The faulty component was not what you would expect!
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  • @rajbeekie7124
    @rajbeekie7124 Před 2 měsíci +152

    Every neighborhood needs a Ray.

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      @jojomorgan8556 Před 2 měsíci +16

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      @OldFatBubba Před 2 měsíci +10

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      @thethirdrail8397 Před 2 měsíci

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  • @dxxxm231
    @dxxxm231 Před 2 měsíci +50

    I’m a recovering Hyundai tech. There’s a 1 pin connector near the air box on almost every hyundai which is the starter solenoid wire. This is always my go to test point to check starter signal. Those solenoid connectors always break!

    • @sebbykaiser6466
      @sebbykaiser6466 Před 2 měsíci

      Honestly Hyundai doesn't pay warranty diag so if it has extended warranty or its still in its 6 years/120km I just start with a starter lol

    • @thethirdrail8397
      @thethirdrail8397 Před 2 měsíci

      @@sebbykaiser6466 Good thing Car Dealerships do not place Warranties in Micro Miles Or micro KM! Or worse yet Inches vs Miles or KM! Your stay at the dealership while that is being printed out... might be a while! which may give you reason to check out more cars!

    • @jojomorgan8556
      @jojomorgan8556 Před 2 měsíci +2

      That's actually not exclusively Hyundai... The 2010 Ford I'm driving has the same connector clipped to the side of the battery box... it's also a known failure point... not sure but it seems there's some similarity there... but that's just my opinion as a Tech with 30+ yrs exp.

    • @1337penguinman
      @1337penguinman Před 2 měsíci +1

      No crank no start on these Hyundais is always an initial 2 step process for me. 1) Try to turn the engine over by hand. 2) If it turns over, put a power probe on that wire and see if it cranks.

    • @jojomorgan8556
      @jojomorgan8556 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@1337penguinman I have had a few people call me with the no crank no start problem with Ford trucks and I say I only have one question. "Has the battery recently been changed? "
      The answer is almost always a YES. I tell them that I can tell them what to do to start it but they'll owe me my $20 diagnosis fee when they do.....
      Out of over a dozen people I've only had one person who didn't bring it.... So, he's no longer a customer.....

  • @bryanrulz3904
    @bryanrulz3904 Před 2 měsíci +93

    I love these diag videos Ray. These are great examples of critical thinking skills and troubleshooting. Thanks for sharing brother!

    • @shadetreemech290
      @shadetreemech290 Před 2 měsíci +2

      As an electronics technician, I can confirm that the troubleshooting procedure was accurate and valid.

  • @cliffyb5896
    @cliffyb5896 Před 2 měsíci +20

    When Ray was holding the key in start and it wasn't doing anything, I was yelling at him to jiggle the shifter. He couldn't hear me though😀. He still got it in the end though. thanks for bringing us on your diag.

    • @gcfixitc9283
      @gcfixitc9283 Před 2 měsíci

      Why did you not try a neutral position to see if it would start

  • @jdesaavedra0432
    @jdesaavedra0432 Před 2 měsíci +27

    When faced with this situation, I try the jiggle test of the neutral safety switch before rigging lights. My very first failure to start was in my first car, a 1960 Impala back in 1970. Being a kid, I bypassed the switch. it was fun to launch by starting in drive. Those were the days of simple cars--yet they still had failures. Your method achieves the same results with a greater degree of certainty, given the complexity of modern systems.

  • @blackenigma1054
    @blackenigma1054 Před 2 měsíci +15

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    @Sofia_Princesse_magnifique Před 2 měsíci +72

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    @gms8994 Před 2 měsíci +12

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      @thewausaudude Před 2 měsíci +1

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    • @gms8994
      @gms8994 Před 2 měsíci +1

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      @alvinhyman6838 Před 2 měsíci

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  • @tnekkc
    @tnekkc Před 2 měsíci +9

    I am an electrical engineer that designed power supplies and battery chargers. Ray is very good at explaining troubleshooting.

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      @thethirdrail8397 Před 2 měsíci

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  • @macmcdougald1769
    @macmcdougald1769 Před 2 měsíci +16

    BEFORE YOU REMOVED THE NSS, I WOULD HAVE TRIED TO SEE IF IT STARTED IN NEUTRAL.

  • @Really658
    @Really658 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Neutral safety switch, brings back memories.

  • @gryfandjane
    @gryfandjane Před 2 měsíci +5

    Interesting… this is the second repair vid I’ve seen where a faulty neutral safety switch was causing a non-start. And man, I love those interactive schematics. What a great tool.

  • @chaddelong6795
    @chaddelong6795 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I’d be willing to bet any other shop would’ve instantly diagnosed this as an ignition switch. Goes to show the extent of care Ray puts to not just fire a parts cannon hoping to fix the issue.

  • @veritas3179
    @veritas3179 Před 2 měsíci

    Rainman you're awesome mate!

  • @brettemerich3237
    @brettemerich3237 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Ray A nice diagnosis. It’s like mowing the grass. (You can see the results). Once there was a no start in a parking lot. They were talking to the tow truck driver. I told them to put it I. Neutral and I start. They said good bye to tow truck driver. Anyway Ray have a good day

  • @michaelpatton5012
    @michaelpatton5012 Před 2 měsíci

    Great video Ray.

  • @mrgunn2726
    @mrgunn2726 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Uggh, intermittent issues are the worst and are notoriously difficult to troubleshoot. Good work Ray!

  • @davidcook5954
    @davidcook5954 Před 2 měsíci

    Well done 👏

  • @eddykirksey8698
    @eddykirksey8698 Před 2 měsíci

    Nice job Ray!

  • @user-gv5zn2kr4c
    @user-gv5zn2kr4c Před 2 měsíci

    Impressive Ray man!

  • @crosstolerance
    @crosstolerance Před 2 měsíci

    Learning so much from your diagnostic videos!

  • @BrianSmith-wy6vz
    @BrianSmith-wy6vz Před 2 měsíci

    I completely enjoyed this diag great video.

  • @citizengroovesboogienation2242
    @citizengroovesboogienation2242 Před 2 měsíci +6

    This is great. My wife's 2016 1.8L Elantra has started to have exactly this problem. Your video is going to minimise my diag time. Thanks Ray.

  • @jackbowman4788
    @jackbowman4788 Před 2 měsíci

    Well done Ray !!😃

  • @medic2834
    @medic2834 Před 2 měsíci

    Very nice diag sequence Ray

  • @johnmarino4085
    @johnmarino4085 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Nicely done Ray !

  • @Blokey857
    @Blokey857 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Good day to you Ray and all at the shop! Hope you all have a very good day!

  • @bartscave
    @bartscave Před 2 měsíci

    Keep the diag videos coming! Definitely a favorite.

  • @jthonn
    @jthonn Před 2 měsíci

    Nice job!

  • @cranefly23
    @cranefly23 Před 2 měsíci +6

    That really was “a very good video”! I enjoy these diagnostic detective jobs. I find them much more interesting than a brake job or fluid change - even though I enjoy them too. Nicely done, Ray.

  • @user-zh9sd8ql8l
    @user-zh9sd8ql8l Před 2 měsíci

    Well done !!!!!

  • @DocZoidberg549
    @DocZoidberg549 Před 2 měsíci

    Yessss, a longer video 👍

  • @ronaldmiller9648
    @ronaldmiller9648 Před 2 měsíci

    What a great diag and explanation process. Very educational!

  • @thomasrbishop8736
    @thomasrbishop8736 Před 2 měsíci

    Outstanding video

  • @scottslattery5590
    @scottslattery5590 Před 2 měsíci

    You did it again ray!!! You are the best at what you do!

  • @joemalone9380
    @joemalone9380 Před 2 měsíci

    the people of the sunshine state are so very fortunate

  • @kamrankhan78
    @kamrankhan78 Před 2 měsíci

    Excellent and superb diag

  • @charleskadletc2431
    @charleskadletc2431 Před 2 měsíci

    Good one Bryan.😊

  • @RobHughes-oh3yg
    @RobHughes-oh3yg Před 2 měsíci

    Outstanding work my friend!!!

  • @MrMattDat
    @MrMattDat Před 2 měsíci +2

    Love to hear your approach to diagnosing a problem Ray! Great job!!

  • @brucewinstanley6113
    @brucewinstanley6113 Před 2 měsíci

    Keeping retired Master Tech Brain sharp! Thanks

  • @moneysaversilver
    @moneysaversilver Před 2 měsíci +7

    Sometimes a broken system is easier to troubleshoot than a intermediate one, I know because I seen lots of that aa a aircraft electrician intermediate USAF, I like watching you do electrician work, brings back good memories, and keep my brain working.

  • @clausnepperchristiansen7394
    @clausnepperchristiansen7394 Před 2 měsíci

    T-shoot videos are the best 👍

  • @robertpimpo4698
    @robertpimpo4698 Před 2 měsíci

    Dammm ray perfect diag and repair bud nice job

  • @roxanneabbott8424
    @roxanneabbott8424 Před 2 měsíci

    Awesome video especially when you show us your thinking process step by step! Nice Ray!!

  • @KentuckyRanger
    @KentuckyRanger Před 2 měsíci +1

    Very methodical process.
    Awesome as always!

  • @timetryp422
    @timetryp422 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Ray's diagnostic skills are exceptional !

  • @robinkloster3448
    @robinkloster3448 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great content! hello from Norway!

  • @tortugam1045
    @tortugam1045 Před 2 měsíci

    Dang, you are smart as a whip!

  • @StopTeoriomSpiskowym
    @StopTeoriomSpiskowym Před 2 měsíci

    Wow Rainman diagnostics

  • @GlennLaycock
    @GlennLaycock Před 2 měsíci

    that car is in good shape - clean

  • @ronaldwvaught
    @ronaldwvaught Před měsícem

    I really enjoy your electronics problem solving. Keep it up. Ron in Indianapolis.

  • @solargarage
    @solargarage Před 2 měsíci +21

    Awesome video. It looks like the new switch has a protective cover to guard again water entering the switch, the old one does not have this. Would be cool to see the inside of the old switch. I would guess the old one has some corrosion in it.

    • @ethanallen326
      @ethanallen326 Před 2 měsíci +4

      There is an older Ray video that ended up being the range selector switch. In that one he did open up the failed switch.

  • @edgarmojica6145
    @edgarmojica6145 Před 2 měsíci

    Great diagnosis video good work Ray 😁👍

  • @donaldmickunas8552
    @donaldmickunas8552 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Great diagnosis as always. Love your videos.

  • @gringoLivinginbrazil
    @gringoLivinginbrazil Před 2 měsíci

    Really enjoy your electrical troubleshooting. Your online diagrams are killer too.

  • @stephenspankmonkey2594
    @stephenspankmonkey2594 Před 2 měsíci

    Loving this "classic Ray" diagnosis video - just like the old days 🥰

  • @wolfgangweber9924
    @wolfgangweber9924 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Excellent video! Just excellent!

  • @russelbaird3342
    @russelbaird3342 Před 2 měsíci

    I really enjoy watching you go through the diagnosis of an issue . Thank you it was fun . Stay safe , have fun .

  • @chrisstone3939
    @chrisstone3939 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Great bit of electrical problem determination....super thorough as usual!

  • @ronaldrussell5481
    @ronaldrussell5481 Před 2 měsíci

    Nice troubleshooting as usual Ray, the key to successful repairs!

  • @bulldogshouse9970
    @bulldogshouse9970 Před 2 měsíci +2

    You did a great job on this one keep up the great work 👍💪

  • @ThatBoyFur
    @ThatBoyFur Před 2 měsíci +1

    Good job! You made it look so easy 😅

  • @ronsloan7662
    @ronsloan7662 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Hey Ray, brilliant diagnosis. I was blaming the key switch all the way through until you found the actual problem. Great work! Cheers!

  • @robertgrantham9245
    @robertgrantham9245 Před 2 měsíci

    You are so good.

  • @excellentjb
    @excellentjb Před 2 měsíci

    Absolutely inspiring to DIY person that looking over and over this channel. Great job Raymond!

  • @johnnoblet7705
    @johnnoblet7705 Před 2 měsíci

    Excellent diagnostic sense. Very methodical and thoughtful. Great job.

  • @lokigames5091
    @lokigames5091 Před 2 měsíci

    I love these diag videos of having to test multiple different relays,switches,etc that are critical to the operation, great video Ray

  • @billmurray4895
    @billmurray4895 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Love the packing tape mod on the driver side rear view mirror.

  • @Rocket39Smoke14
    @Rocket39Smoke14 Před 2 měsíci

    Nice troubleshooting and repair.

  • @achap3604
    @achap3604 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank u for sharing your knowledge I am a mechanic with little electrical knowledge and am learning through your channel

  • @stevejosrph6065
    @stevejosrph6065 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks!

  • @samjackaman1928
    @samjackaman1928 Před 2 měsíci

    I love a good diag video! Keep them coming Ray, your videos are my evening chill out after work. I do find myself suggesting the next step as you go. My wife thinks I’m nuts. 😆. I’m also astounded by how clean a 10 year old car is in Florida compared to a 2 year old car in the UK! It looks like it rolled of the production line only last week!

  • @blairarthur302
    @blairarthur302 Před 2 měsíci +2

    nice job

  • @Navajo-man
    @Navajo-man Před 2 měsíci

    Hi Ray excellent video on no starting pretty smart mechanic and as always you all be safe 🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @kennethskillings5036
    @kennethskillings5036 Před 2 měsíci

    Well done 👍

  • @oxygen454
    @oxygen454 Před 2 měsíci

    I learned a lot from this video. I like working with wiring diagrams and diagnosing electrical and this helps.

  • @brianpolge7478
    @brianpolge7478 Před 2 měsíci +6

    After the repair, did you check to see if it started in "N" and did not start in th "R" or "D". If everything worked. Nice Job!!

  • @user-gl2ge1su9i
    @user-gl2ge1su9i Před 2 měsíci

    Nice bit of fault finding. Impressive.

  • @Dstromb232
    @Dstromb232 Před 2 měsíci

    I am really impress with your knowledge you know about the electrical system of autos.

  • @MaximinaRailing
    @MaximinaRailing Před 2 měsíci

    Every neighborhood needs a Ray, I tried doing his diagnostic skills once...let's just say my car is still at the mechanic's!

  • @woody95124
    @woody95124 Před 2 měsíci

    Good job Ray!..No guessing..just proper testing leads to no mistakes..

  • @sheerwillsurvival2064
    @sheerwillsurvival2064 Před 2 měsíci

    This was a very good video. Like rays older videos 👊🏻👍🏻

  • @josephvantreeck2989
    @josephvantreeck2989 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you

  • @fahisaurus
    @fahisaurus Před 2 měsíci +11

    Ray there is a TSB 17-AT-005 from Hyundai about this issue, and one of the symptoms is "Intermittent no engine crank/no start in “P” or “N” with or without MIL or DTC.". It's a known issue.
    My old landlord had the same car and issue. You'd have to row it between park and neutral before it would start. More often than not, it starts in neutral vs park.

    • @TheHonestL1ar
      @TheHonestL1ar Před 2 měsíci +1

      That's probably why the new one looked different and oreillys had it on the shelf

    • @zaiks0105
      @zaiks0105 Před 2 měsíci

      Nice!

    • @SeanBZA
      @SeanBZA Před 2 měsíci

      Old original one gets water in it, and as the safety start is on the bottom, that fails before the display starts to give false readings. Bottom is the safety switch, and the reverse light, top is the trans position switch. Most common would be start failure, but another clue is the reverse lamps either glowing dimly, or being burnt out from being on all the time.

  • @1DarkStorm
    @1DarkStorm Před 2 měsíci

    Welcoming back!

  • @golf25radioman
    @golf25radioman Před 2 měsíci

    Very interesting diag tour thru the starting circuit. And excellent commenting on the way. Thanks for the "very good video" - as you always say.

  • @Codadams
    @Codadams Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanks for taking us through the troubleshooting steps. It is one thing to tell us the problem but even better to show us the thought process, full diagnostic, full repair. Helps us all!!

  • @user-fk8dn7gv3h
    @user-fk8dn7gv3h Před 2 měsíci

    You’re a genius!!

  • @colinwhitby2473
    @colinwhitby2473 Před 2 měsíci

    Good job ray there needs to be more like you😊😊😅😅

  • @Kuyakano.productions
    @Kuyakano.productions Před 2 měsíci +1

    Love watching.
    you do good work!
    you're intelligent and you're funny all in one🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤

  • @merrillschaps2325
    @merrillschaps2325 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Hey Ray! Did anyone ever tell you that you're a Ray of sunshine? Love your video brother! 😀

  • @iillaamusic
    @iillaamusic Před 2 měsíci

    These deep diagnosis investigations are my top favourite videos, Sir Raylock Holmes.

  • @MotorheadRedo
    @MotorheadRedo Před 2 měsíci

    Guessed it would be the relay. Wrong! Good Video

  • @scotts24d
    @scotts24d Před 2 měsíci

    Ray you do have the right nick name Rainman Ray 👍

  • @frankvucolo6249
    @frankvucolo6249 Před 2 měsíci +1

    That was a dinga.
    A dinga beauty.
    You were in the zone on this one and very well explained along the way.
    Just a simple test light and a logical process of elimination leading you to the fault.

  • @svcnovelty4992
    @svcnovelty4992 Před 2 měsíci

    I don't work on cars, but I really enjoy your videos. Your narration is easy to follow and informative thank you for what you do. If I ever break down in Florida, I would want to bring my vehicle to you. You give the profession an excellent name, my friend.

  • @surferdude4487
    @surferdude4487 Před 2 měsíci +2

    It's good to see that you don't immediately yeat a perfectly good starter. Taking that time to diagnose and correct the actual problem means that you're keeping your customers and you're not getting returns for a problem THAT WAS NOT FIXED.

  • @fg146
    @fg146 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I've had so many range selector issues with different vehicles that it was my first guess on this one but your testing method is right on track with what I normally do. Had a lot of issues with DOA Chinese knockoff range selectors from Amazon.

  • @rogerfleury3591
    @rogerfleury3591 Před 2 měsíci +2

    61st! Happy HUMPDAY Ray and the wife unit. Including the new employees. Roger in Pierre South Dakota