New X-Pro X20 150cc Amazon scooter fuel line issues (solved)
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- čas přidán 6. 01. 2022
- Hello, I'm having a rough time with my new X-Pro Scooter I ordered through Amazon. I'm thinking the fuel lines are not plugging into this round circle thingy correctly, please help me with this if you can I very much appreciate it. Also wondering about this plug next to the air filter, is it an emergency air filter bypass? excess oil drain pipe? also the film on the muffler, That's not supposed to be there, right? Thanks again in advance :)
update
it was a kinked vacuum line for the fuel pump, and the plastic is supposed to come off. I don't think they mention that in the assembly video.
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I have this same color X-Pro X20 now, I bought it new Dec 2022 and the speedo puck is of 10mph and found out that Chinese manufacturers will put anything on these bikes just to get them off the assembly line and the gears in the puck are for 10 inch tires instead of the 12 and 13 inch tires and my odometer shows more miles than the actual miles so I have to mathematically do my oil changes and over 3000 miles and the crankshaft is knocking and I took my Challenger motor and put it on thie X-pro body and in the future I will be trying to repair the original engine so it does'nt further damage the engine. This economy is so screwed up it's hard to get what you need and if I can find the non Chinese replacement parts for the crankshaft such as Taiwan made is like finding a needle in a haystack. When I first got this bike which is the same color as the one on this video, I had to change the mirrors that vibrated because of the plastic arms, before I even started this bike I adjusted the valves because from the manufacturer set the exhaust valves tight for emmissions and put a performance header and muffler on it, upgraded the main jet cut open the intake hole on the air filter box instead of drilling holes that will get the filter wet if it rains which I don't ride these bikes in the rain anyway for rust reasons if you look really good where the air goes in on this type of airbox it has a resrtriction and if you have the right type of box cutter you can cut that lip off to open up your air intake because I tried the performance intake in it will not fit on this bike, it's too tall and hits the arch. My Challenger engine I moved the Nibbi tube around with the pod filter and it fits good. and I got 15/37 gears in it no BBK and 10 gram weights and she runs great and hits depending on temperature on a good day I hit a bout 68mph and I'm cool with that but my Challenger I bought new as well in 2021 the crankshaft went out totally at over 7100 miles and bought a new engine because it was toast and I felt that crank was bad when it was new too so it's not just X-Pro or certain brands. I've researched chinese metals in the early 2000's and they do have the worst metal in the world since ancient history like the wars with Japan and you'll see that about the swords made back in those days and the metals are cheaply made and don't expect for anything to last long from anything they manufacture that's why we get what we pay for and trust me I'm not rich but from these bikes just prepare to spend some money even though the parts are cheap and as a mechanic I never half way do a job. Example, don't just change a CVT belt without inspecting all parts becacause it may not just be the belt it can other parts as well that is why I will change all the parts clutch(stock)replaced bearing grease with Lucas high temp, variator(stock) lubed with MHR grease 7.1 on the boss and a light coat of white lithium grease in the rollers and still have the same parts working fine and I use a Japanese Bando belt on the Challenger engine and it's still good after 6 to 7000 miles so if you can replace some of these parts with other than chinese parts you will have way less problems and you will spend a little more but it will pay off in the longrun without constantly buying cheap parts which will add up and cost more overall and remember these are economical made vehicles, they were not really meant to be run hard or raced everyday and if you do, expect to do more shorter maintainace intervals and repairs, watch the racing pros and you will learn alot. If you want more power just get a bigger bike if you have the money, if not we can't complain, I've seen people have these Chinese bikes for years without many issues because many of them just rode 'em easy and never hard and not let 'em just sit up and sit outside in the elements. Anything you own if you do not keep it maintained don't expect for to last or be there when you need it to.
Peace.
I have the same exact scooter and have the same issues....petcock is a vacuum valve you can test by lightly sucking on the top middle hose which opens the fuel line and fuel should come out of the outlet side. I've done a valve adjustment and tested damn near everything so I finally tore out the carburetor and getting a new one. The one it came with can't be taken apart 😕 it's put together with breakaway bolts which makes no sense
Check the intake rubber boot neck garment for splits.& cracks in it to for air leaks.
Well I do like the paint scheme ✅
There are 3 to 4 lines. One comes off of the vacuum controlled valve witch is should be routed from the carburetor to the control vacuum valve. Witch goes to the neck on the intake port for vacuum from your air cleaner. There is another one going to that vacuum to top of intake neck where the carburetor bolts onto. The other hose should be going directly to your air cleaner box.on the left side of the intake neck. Then the other vacuum line goes to that vacuum controlled pump that you couldn't understand where those went to on that moped that go over to your vacuum valve to the fuel line connected to the fuel filter witch goes to your FUEL tank.
You also have what's called A float blow drain line.& screw to open for draining out the float blow with. Try opening that valve screw to see if fuel flows through it first. If nothing comes out of it either move on to the removal processes.& cleaning tips I gave you.
Also check for spark from your spark plug.& the wire itself to. Remember there is A power switch on the right.,or left side handle to switch it on& off by to. After turning the key switch on to.
thankfully nothing is wrong with the spark, it was a kinked vacuum line for the fuel pump, an elbow for the line fixed the problem
Remove it to cover it with your hand. Then use your mouth to try to blow air through it. If nothing happens it's still good alright. Good luck on getting it up.& running again.
it works off vacuum it will not pump gas unless the engine is running creating vacuum at the intake manifold.
And yes take the plastic off the muffler
Do not waste your hard-earned money on Chinese scooters that have a tendency to either arrived with an issue , always develop an issue down the line. Use the money as a deposit on any japanese-made scooter. Honda, Yamaha ,Suzuki, or Kawasaki. I still have my 1984 Honda 750 as an example.
What mileage does this scooter give?
I’m looking into buying one in the next month or two. I was wondering how the exhaust and airflow are with these as stock.
they are ok but they tend to un-rivet themselves and fall apart... the original muffler was terrible though... If you know how to make a custom pipe and put a good muffler on there I'd say that's a great idea and probably worth it
Remember to flip your headlight switch onto the top down mode also.
I'm not sure what you mean. I replaced the headlight, it's like many times better
@@OGmolton1 HE MEANS HIGH BEAM AN LOW BEAM
Did you change your oil and put new olive and and put gas in per the directions 🤔
Oh yeah, engine oil and the gear oil too. Thanks, yeah, the problem was with the fuel pump, didnt help that the engine manifold wasnt the right size connecting to the carburetur either
Did you ever find out about that little tube? Is it needed or not?
mine needed it replaced for an elbow. Only one way to find out i suppose
Very similar to the issue I’m having wow
did you check out the forum link or the next video where I found the problem? it runs well now if not a little shaky. Gets me back and forth to work, like a 25 minute trip reliably.
I want to see the video of you fixing it alright bro.
www.motorcycleforum.com/threads/trouble-with-new-x-pro-x20-scooter-fuel-system.246872/ theres a video of after, this is better
Just came across your video and I was wondering how’s that scooter holding up.
wonderful, better than ever.... never owed a bank a F*****g cent for it either
Oh yeah. so what was the problem you were having back then with the scooter?
@@johnjett1673 little problems. All types. Before this war with China starts its easy to get all the cheap parts I need. It's been an interesting valuable learning experience.
I don't have a lot of experience with these, but here is what I believe is correct: The fuel valve under the tank is vacuum operated, by engine vacuum when it runs. If that is true, cranking the starter wasn't enough to get a good vacuum, so the engine was starved for fuel. Also, when I have worked on commercial lawnmowers with larger v-twin engines, the fuel filter would look like yours, just a bit of fuel in it after replacing it. The engines would run fine even with the filter looking mostly empty, they would start with the fuel that was still in the carb bowl. And the filter eventually fills up. I see in another comment of yours that the engine is running good now, so this is probably what happened in your situation.
thanks, yeah, the vacuum line had a kink in it the way it was run that completely blocked it
@@OGmolton1 So its a good Scooter now?
@@OGmolton1 when you got it and set it up(assuming you didn't buy it pre assembled) did you need to do a valve adjustment? I'm upgrading from a 50 to this exact bike and never have bought a non pre-assembled scooter.
@@josiehyde5737 no need for anything like that on my bike, it came mostly assembled. just had to adjust a couple of minor things
the muffler that came with it sucked, I just got a $70 one on amazon and its much better even though it looks identical
Is you you’ll filter backwards ?
not as far as I know
Is it a good scooter now ?
yeah, its really good. i like it. the headlight needed to be upgraded
That looks like a vacuum fuel shut off take the line off the carb and suck on it if fuel flows out it’s fine if not it’s not working right so you could bypass it to try and get it running
thanks, yeah, you're right, the vacuum pump air line was all crimped up the way they sent it to me, i replaced a plastic piece that joined the lines with an elbow and it fixed the problem
I was just about to buy one but I see you having problems with this scooter why buy someing that I had to fix not cool
It run on a pulse pump . The in and out and vacuum .
Thanks, that was the problem, blocked tube
@@OGmolton1 I’m glad it runs for you.👊👍🤠
Please tell me how many kilometers can you ride on this scooter without stopping?To prevent the motor from overheating
hmm, I never take very long trips and I keep such things in mind so I try not to go full throttle for too long. My average trip is only 12 km anyway. I use full synthetic 10w 40 Valvoline bike oil.... my original muffler caused some issues and overheating was probably one of them, does it feel like the exhaust is pumping out like it usually does?
Change fuel filter. Take one nut off carburetor were it goes into motor put lock tight on it replace then do the other.
loctite as a line sealant eh? Thanks.
Sounds like it has a air leak. Black boot that's holds the carb two nuts take off one at a time put blue lock tight on bolts. Tighten down 7 foot lbs on torkwrench and fuel filter
gas cap is crap change it out for a quality one it will fix your fuel filter filling up issue.!
Remove film from muffler
Mine run 5 miles then clicks off
you still having that problem? when it shuts off does it make a weird "chu kaaa" with loke a rolling sound after it? I had a crack in the manifold piece between the carburetur and the engine and mine would sometimes shut off and make that noise, I saw it spark onto the hose clamp on the manifold as it made the noise and shut down and i was like how did the spark get all the way up here and also there must be a hole in that manifold, and sure enough there was. mine runs perfect at the moment and it was not until i got that all sorted out
I know the problem with it it aint got no gas in it
Filder?
Remove the fuel filter blow through the filter in reverse of the fuel flow to clean it out also. Then reconnect it check for fuel flow to that. Now on the other hand take the carburetor off remove all of the cable.& wiring & fuel line from it to. Then check for screws in the bottom of that carburetor. If it had none you'll half to order in A new one that has screws so you can clean it out. There is also A automatic choke accelerator pump that can be opened.& cleaned out to. There is A choke slide cover that is removable.& cleanable to take pictures of everything how it was.,or video it all. That you can go back.& rewatch what you did wrong as A reference materials. Clean it with carb& choke cleaner.& A small piece of wire.,or bread the then spray it out with the cleaner.,or lightly with compressed air from air compressor.& blow gun tool.
Thanks, I should change the title, it's running good now with this 90 degree elbow for the fuel pump but I might look into cleaning the autochoke, if does fluctuate a bitwhile idling, that might help.
How fast is it???
up hills 50-55 mph, it can get up to low 70's downhill if the speedometer is accurate
OMG it's a piece of junk and all you want to know is how fast it is? Use your brain son, don't get one.
Even if you get one of these Chinese scooters working 100% out-of-the-box I personally guarantee that overtime it will start developing issues they are famous for every Bolt to start shaking loose for instance I'm not going to get into anything else if you don't believe me get one and within two years You'll wish you never wasted your money on it
Actually, not fully true.
You have to be a hands on mechanically inclined owner to successfully keep these on the road, true but most folks know that going in, right ?
That's why / how you're getting a highway capible 55-60mph Scooter for $1500 (shipped price) versus a Japanese one for $4,500-5,000.
But you sound like a guy whose intimidated by wrenching on stuff, so you'd best stick to a Japanese model.
Real men aren't afraid to work on & fix their gear.
Eventually the Japanese bikes need work.
I've totally wrenched on my Suzuki Burgman 400.
Just just change the gas filter because I have the same problem with that
I can't figure out if it's supposed to be like that or not, it seems to be running good now and the level is still low in the filter. Somebody said the filter fills up when it's dirty and needs to be replaced but idk
That line is the petcock all you need to do is get rid of the petcock and put an on and off petcock lever your gas cap has event hold on it so you have free-flowing gas if there is no vet on the gas cap then you produce what they called vaporloc you got to have some type of ventilation that's what Chinese scooters have so many problems
this thread on this forum has more info www.motorcycleforum.com/threads/trouble-with-new-x-pro-x20-scooter-fuel-system.246872/#post-2691255