Watchmen Episode 1 - It's Garbage
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- So is HBO's Watchmen a worthy successor to the critically acclaimed comic book and the dark and gritty Zack Snyder movie, or just a trashy, low-effort waste of time? Let's find out as I review Episode 1 - "It's Summer and We're Running Out Of Ice".
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Hollywood: “We are remaking “Jaws” as a series and the shark will be a racist, bigoted creature with an anti-gay agenda.”
Fans: “Huh?”
Hollywood: “Well it is a Great White.”
Fans: *slap forehead*
I knew it!
_"Fans: slap forehead"_
Twitter: "OMG! This is amaze-balls! Old white men definitely need not see this movie!"
in current date i would not be choked if they did it... a Great White only going for colored and gays :P
And the main character will be a female who overpowers the shark each time it would attack her
Why you ask? Well because females are the stronger gender of course
The Witcher comes to mind
"Law and order: Social Justice Unit"
Please don't go giving Hollywood any ideas.
It was at this exact moment when I gave this video the thumbs up. The rest is icing on the SJW cake.
@Charlie Pendergast Yeah I never liked SVU. The original Law and Order series was my all time favorite tv show, and it infuriates me that SVU ended up getting more seasons then it did.
@@seanhoogland1938 I think that one was actually Cultural Suicide Squad.
The Democrats are already working to make that a reality and not just a show, just like they've done before.
Too late it's already in production
"Everyone is competent and stoic." That's pretty much all we get for characterizations these days.
The characters get way more fleshed out and I think the first episode still does a lot to establish them.
I fail to see any supper heroes.
And female with true, strong character 😁
The Watchmen movie was really good. Very underrated.
I think it was done pretty well given the source material is so dense and rich. It's gotta be tough to adapt that fantastic graphic novel into a two hour movie.
only piece of HW trash I ever walked out on and I endured the whole Titanic
@@stephenturner757 i watched the ultimate cut and i gotta say that it takes almost everything from the comic. The only important thing they missed is Ozymandias'' backstory at the end
100% agree 👍
Love it. Every minute.
More like "Dontwatchmen" amirite folks?
Homer id be REALLY appreciative if you manage to kill some people on your way out. Take care.
Get out!
@john maziasz FAWKIN HOMERUN CHIPPAH!
SoooRite! ;D
Apex dad joke.
this show is like if star wars focused on a random girl with a stick and a random storm trooper. oh wait.
The thing is, I think there are plenty of good storylines in a random stormtrooper and a woman with a stick.
How did he become a stormtrooper? How does the First Order treat them? Why don't these people choose to work with the established government (this time not named Rebels)?
How has this girl survived on a planet seemingly ran by Java the Hutt type beings? How much trust would this girl have on this planet? How would she treat strangers?
There are plenty of plot lines they could have had. They simply chose to not have any.
@@preddyshite6342 yep but there was a thing called character development back in the days. It does matter.
@@etienne8110 The thing about character development is it's the most fictitious thing in fiction.
Some stories are less about an overall growth arc and more about a character as they are facing particular circumstances.
Not every situation changes a person dramatically, and not all characters have to be irredeemable just to be redeemed in the final act.
it's almost amusing that media has become so formulaic that it's so offensive to deviate from it.
Even thinking about Rey and her Mary Sue-ness, it's insane to think that revealing her parents would somehow explain why she's such a badass, like that would explain why they were badasses, or why Anakin was a badass.
Thinking about it, writing has encountered something like an uncanny valley, except because it isn't purely visual like CG that gets easily out-dated, tropes are more readily accepted and imitated in real life rather than critiqued. Media is a large part of entertainment and will never be more than that, no matter how well one in every 1000 stories integrates real world issues into their narratives.
@@DS94everXev Bruh... As much as I joined in the communal defecation on the new trilogy, they literally answered all those questions.
Honestly the most useless part of it, Fin and whats her faces trip to the casino planet was the most illuminating part of the whole Star Wars lore for me because I always assumed they used slave labor and just owned all the resources needed to build those ridiculous sized ships and fleet.
Further, I prefer movies like Solo and Rogue which don't really focus on Jedi or Sith. I think once they tried to integrate some rando into the legacy, it was doomed to fail. They glossed over Luke rebuilding the Jedi academy and that's probably the only thing I wanted to see explored after Return of the Jedi.
@@preddyshite6342
They never answered any of those things beyond maybe a line. They never showed us life as that person.
And I do want to know how life is like for a common stormtrooper it poverty striken gurl in useless planet in the Star Wars universe. While Luke was off saving the galaxy, what impact does that have on citizens?
We never saw Finn explain why he was fine killing his friends when his friend is the one that died that turned him around. That is a worthy story.
Good art asks uncomfortable questions of the audience. Bad art assumes the answers to those questions for the audience. Artists now have made up their minds about right and wrong, and are uncomfortable asking questions of the audience. It's sad.
I agree. Nice, concise comment and, in my view, objectively right.
@@georgecaplin9075 "in my view, objectively right" is a bit contradictory don't you think?
They're not afraid of asking questions, they simply don't WANT to ask any.
And why would they?
They're paid to promote an agenda with their products,
Why would they risk having peoples considers differents opinions when they're paid to keep promoting the same ones already in place?
@@Rise65487if their agenda is bringing to light atrocities of the past that were unknown to the public, well good for them.
The pilot episode of Lost is probably still one of TV's greatest introductions to a show ever. Every time I watch it again it sucks me in.
I can't tell if that last sentence was a joke or just unfortunate.
I still like that show. It didn't finish as strong but it was still great
Lost was the first show I ever watched and completed , not the best show now that I look back on it but it was cool and suspenseful
It’s too bad the ending episodes didn’t provide any revelations of the plot points. The series was just mystery piled upon more mysteries, and in the end they answered very few.
"We're gonna make a show with no ending haha " JJ abramz, who teaches film classes to other fools who will make even worse movies
Personal point of privilege: we prefer to call it Watchpeople!
And dont clap you fascists it triggers us we do jazz hands now ..
Fuck off Justin Trudeau.
Actually.... I hate to be a fucktard...but.. I think its " Point of Personal Privilege "......sorry man........ " Please... don't.... use... gender specific language ".... sorry man.... !!! :)
I'm genuinely surprised they didn't call it Watchpeople.
@@sonix7119 Point of personal privilege: please don't use gendered language.
And people wonder why Alan Moore hates what happens to his work.
Writer needs to start putting in their contracts when they sell their materials that they have more power in how it is used
No they don't.
Expect that to happen when you take those checks.
I'm sure the anarchist who wrote Rorschach as a satire of objectivists would be completely against left-wing politics in watchmen, right guys? :-D
natorious76 Yes. Or just publish it themselves - more control that way.
I remember me and everyone I talked to about the Watchmen movie really liking it when it came out (I even bought the graphic novel after seeing it) and was baffled when over the years I found out it appearently has many haters. It has its flaws, sure, like every movie. But to this day I find it amazing and a great adaptation, even with a better ending than the comic imho. The only thing the movie didn't do as well as the graphic novel was communicating how Dr. Manhattan perceives time. It tackles it, but doesn't go into detail - "Arrival" managed that one better about the time perception.
Agree. But if you didn't watch the this show...correct that. I like the drinker. But he was wrong about this . It was a masterpiece
@Tanuki Joshua Grahamyou're entitled to your opiinion
The movie misses the point a few time but honestly I wouldn't have even hoped for a such an accurate adaptation and overall they did a good job and the ending was pretty good
Many people that hate it wanted another generic pile of crap but got something better. So the dumbest of those types were angry and confused. Also many things were changed for time and story coherence in that said time frame. But purists will always get angry about any changes (good or bad) but you domt have to be a purist to hate the Watchman show... it was so obviously trying to over correct for something racist it's creators did at some point. "Let's just give God like powers to a random woman and kill off Dr. Manhatten.
The movie is quite a good adaptation, the show is woke trash. It has some glimpses, but in the end, it's about black/female empowerment and white people being 💩, that's all folks.
Just wanted to put this out there:
According to IMDB its a 8.2
According to Critics rating on rotten tomatoes its a 96% (With 117 Ratings)
According to Audience rating on rotten tomatoes its a 56% (with 7832 Ratings)
Pretty much tells it all realy. Journalistic Integrity is dead. Long live the Journalistic Integrity.
Edit:
Batwomans critic score on rotten: 84%
Barwomans audience score on rotten: 18%
IMDb uses 100k reviews. Rotten tomatoes is useless. Just because u didn’t like it doesn’t mean the vast majority did.
@@daveeed1119 didnt see it, but i trust a site that lists critics and audience separately myself.
@@KamiRecca that’s fair just keep in mind it’s only using 7,000 users
@@daveeed1119 i keep it in mind indeed
@@Midwinter2 of course, to blame whit people for everything is quickly becoming a international sport.
"Who watches the Watchmen?"
...Probably nobody
Great show.😀
i dont.
Fonzie Bulldog it’s a shame you’re wrong.
Casey P o oncym
Blue check marks on Twitter
I'm surprised they didn't rename it to Watchwomen or Watchpeople since it's 2019
Watchmxn
What about "watch"??? I find it pretty hurtful for blind people.
Watch100DifferentGenders.
WAHMEN
Watchkin
“IT CAME TRUE, YOU’RE LOOKING AT IT!!”-Comedian (smartest man on the planet)
@Chad Radwell okay but explain, in a good way “woke”? Cause I used it in reference to the Comedian saying that America is currently fucked?
Woke is always referring to some one waking up to the reality that "they" see. The Comedian knew the truth and chose to play along with the joke.
Just a reminder comedian also raped silk spectre
You completely missed the point…
@@shockedbatman2377 w
11:44 Drinker predicts Falcon and the Winter Soldier
I refuse to believe it is a coincidence but instead another example of the far lefts inability to create something new.
"But Drinker, you exceedingly intoxicated yet curiously arousing prodigy" The writing is pure gold.
I could watch him solely for those lines :D
Thank you.
Nothing ends racial division like blaming everything on one group.
Fortunately, I believe the show goes on to address the end of racial divisions a lot more nuanced than this, where turmoil is mounting not just because of white supremacists but also because of massive egos of people of a variety of races and backgrounds. A difficult message it still DOES have is that you can't end racial divisions by just telling everyone to forget about them. Don't take your view on this show, let alone the discussions around racial divisions, from this video's rant about the first episode based on a universe created in one of the most multilayered and carefully crafted comic series ever. I'd say HBO does Alan Moore's creations JUSTICE (lol).
Edit: here's a great explainer of the whole show! czcams.com/video/Cl3izXcp86w/video.html
It was only one group of people who killed all those black people in Tulsa. Denial of the past doesnt end division, it only further supports it.
@@maskon1724
"It was only one group of people who killed all those black people in Tulsa"
If you judge an entire race of people by the actions of a few of them you are no better than those you are attempting to judge.
And then to hold others of the same race responsible decades or even centuries later is even more unjust and reprehensible.
@@DrunkenAussie76 I never judged an entire race, just pointed out historical facts of the time in which the show discusses. I will not forget nor forgive the role of those white peoples who participated in deplorable racists acts of America’s past that still live on in violent, economic and privileged ways(which is discussed in the show if u had watched it). Btw, u are the definition of “white fragility”, anytime truthful American white history gets brought up, there’s always one white boy who takes it oddly personal. Paranoid?
@@maskon1724
"I never judged an entire race"
It was heavily implied by your initial comment, and confirmed with this gem;
"Btw, u are the definition of “white fragility"
You have no idea what race I am, just as I have no idea of your race...
"I will not forget nor forgive the role of those white peoples who participated in deplorable racists acts of America’s past"
What about the horrific acts of any other races in Americas past?
Let me guess they don't count because power + privilege or some other racist platitude right?
"Jeremy Irons hams it up to the best of his ability. Although if he turns out to be who I I think he is, it's going to make for the most disappointing antagonist since Kylo Renn."
But of course he did turn out to be that guy.
who?
Well as we then learn, Ozymandious didn't turn out to be the antagonist
@@CayeDaws But no one focus on the fact that the female genius antagonist was a result of spermjack rape. Cuz the “victim” is a guy amirite
This seems like a show CW should have carried. By the way the CW is the toilet of networks.
i fuckin hate them , the only good show they had was supernatural and in the last seasons they managed to add it to their list of fuckups !!
Jajajjajajaja WHAT? please elaborate
@@cyberspark4206 I don’t mean flash i mean Watchmen, how in the hell can someone say the Watchmen show is like a CW show.
WC
@@attackoftheclonesisnotthat790 if watchmen was a CW show they would have about 15 seasons abt now
"Who watches The Watchmen?"
Apparently no one in the writer's room.
Insert "I'm about to ruin this man's whole career." reaction gif here.
Cuz that was perfect my friend!
Damon Lindelof is a massive Watchmen fan what are you talking about??
It’s based on the book not the movie though...
@@au6769 he was probably forced to say that by the brass at Warner Media.
Chuckie B he’s on Comic Booking shopping with Coy Jandraue too he knows his shit lol
Exactly why Alan Moore hates adaptations of his work. He saw this coming, that crazy bastard
Alan Moore a crazy bastard... Bastard yes. Crazy yes. You would get like that if your works were adapted to some visual media like TV or Movies and POORLY at that, wouldn't you?
@NANA DOTWA irony and sarcasm...
@NANA DOTWA irony and sarcasm works best when it isn't clearly delineated... Irony and sarcasm, I mean.
Alan Moore was pissed that everyone loved Rorshack who was suppose to be a mocking representation of conservatives.
@@AceTheBathoundProductions yes, I think His drying His tear with Euros
It gets worse. what they did with Dr Manhattan was sacrilege
What did they do? After what they did to Rorschach I couldn't watch it.
You know, 15 Years ago I was rooting for the Female Characters in Blockbuster Movies and even Games, but now I cannot watch them anymore without thinking how totally unrealistic they are. That is okay in a Superhero Movie, where Physics are thrown out of the Window. But when I see a 100 Pound Model beating up 200 Pound Martial Artists I am somehow confused. I mean think about the Choreography in such a Fight. How do those 200 Pound Men fly around like the Model would kick with tripple the Force she has in Reality. Do they do that all with Wires?
"Imagine you've just ordered a burger at your favorite restaurant, and the waitress brings you a big, steaming turd on a bun. And, when you complain about it, she says, 'You're just not willing to accept how this Fecal Sandwich challenges your worldview and beliefs about burgers, so you dislike it. You need to do better.'"
-- The Critical Drinker, 11/02/2019
let's face the facts here. HE IS A GOD
This is the best part of the review. Seriously Drinker, we need more thinkers like you, here and now.
Well, the show wasnt renewed for a second season because nobody watched the watchmen LMAO
@@metalliclark86 Riight. It wasn;t cancelled simply because the creators had told their story, now, wazzit*? No - it had to be because of the bad ratings (witch it may have had - I wouldn't know, nor do I particularly care. I was MORE than satisfied with one season, ta very mutch*.
You see how life works, now, right? For every opinion you consider valid (because, duh, it's your own), there's always another opinion that might , just MIGHT be equally valid? A complex concept to grasp, I know (sadly currently reduced to the 'fake-news' labeling idiocy of idiots on BOTH sides of the current debate, neither of witch I find particularly helpful nor palatable, fyi). But once you give it some further thought, you may begin to see some Truth in the concept witch* I'm trying - as politely as I'm able - to open your mind to. Cheers! (oh - you might have got an 'F' on your schadenfreude, but you'll be pleased to know you DID receive an 'A' on your 'Who watches the Watchmen' joke - - sincere, btw) :-)
(*ALL stet)
@@MothraBlues Except none of it is based on opinion, it's based on the ratings, which you admit in the very first sentence you "don't care about." Lmao. That's about as far from intellectual as you can get. "I don't care that the show was cancelled because the ratings sucked. I wouldn't know because I live in my own little bubble which consists of only caring about information that validates how I feel." Does that sound about right? Typical leftist. You pretend you are enlightened but only when you close your eyes and ignore anything that might contradict your world view. It's great that you enjoyed the show, more power to you, but it was cancelled because most people thought it was woke trash and they couldn't financially justify a season 2.
Law and Order: Social Justice Unit. Man I couldn't have been any more let down. You hit the nail on the head
LOL
@SpadesGuy yep that's why I'm a Aryanist
@@johndoe-nutz2980 your from Iran?
@@ARTISTESH nope
It's not about shows having political messages, it's about the same political message.
After a pint of Daniels, and a hellish scream of pain....your post removes my anger.
I love how the show has no connections to either the graphic novel nor the movie, except for that they use Rorschachs mask as the symbol for the KKK which genuinely infuriates me
Who cares? Stop talking and clap for the brown people
Except for the fact it has Dr Manhattan, Ozymandias and Silk Spectre in it, and the giant alien squid monster being teleported into New York at the end of the original story is a major part of the plot.
Rorschach wasn´t a good person tho
That’s false. The whole squid thing, the whole Ozymandias plan, the New Frontiersman and alt right as*holes? None of that means nothing to you?
Why he was written as an extreme far-right character? The New Frontiersman was his favorite magazine and the excerpt that Alan Moore features in the novel defends the actions of the KKK. He also calls a Mexican woman a welfare cheat.
Watchmen fans 2009: Where is the squid?
Damon Lindelof 2019: I've got you covered.
Gayyy
Day-mon, you've done it again!
The Boys, has more in common with Watchmen than this 'modern' take.
The difference being Watchmen is great and The Boys is edgelord garbage
@@tylerleach1833 fun edgelord garbage
@@tylerleach1833 Says the edgelord.
@@tylerleach1833 sounds like your a captain marvel fan
@@cabrondemente1 I'm being an edgelord. I legitimately hate The Boys. Not so much the show, I haven't watched it yet, but I read some issues of the comic...like 3, and then I dropped it because I thought it was garbage. Call me a stick in the mud, but I despise the concept of superheroes being assholes.
I assume the "raining baby squid" thing is a reference to the ending that happened in the original graphic novel.
I don't live in the USA. I was completely unaware of the so called "culture wars", BLM, Antifa, and all that craziness. I heard that some people in that country refused to stand to the national anthem, but didn't get why exactly, what they pretended to achieve. So, before I learned about all that, I watched the TV show and remember thinking: "This is strange". Something was definitely off. After the first episode, I researched about the Tulsa riots and what REALLY happened then. And after each episode, I started to realize this wasn't a TV show at all: It was propaganda, indoctrination. True authentic garbage.
And what REALLY happened? I'm curious.
I need to know the name of this country so I can move there!
@@michielayers3692 I doubt it. I live in the second poorest country in the American continent. We have our own problems. Compared to Portland, New York, Chicago or maybe the entire state of California, my poor little land might not look that bad, but there is plenty of other great places in the USA where you can work hard and thrive.
@@mladens1779 A white girl said a black man raped her. Not sure if they went to court but that was the time of "Believe all women". A fight broke out(some things happened before this). You can see wikipedia but you can trust their info as much as you want. Nine whites people die, sixty eight blacks die. Till today we do not know if the rape allegation was even true.
Yeah All I was told that 1 white guy was shot and essentially blacks were all innocent ... then I learned they opened up fire on a crowd of white people and that's what REALLY started it. Then read letters ppl wrote to NYT writers asking why their doing essentially the same same thing they do today ...lie and push a agenda ... its really effed up how that rapist piece of 💩 that tried raping that girl is potrayed innocent .
I don't get excited when I hear that Hollywood is going to reboot something successful from the past.
Chris Dalton I get out an airsick bag.
It's basically a red flag to let you know to step off the path of the coming $hitstorm.
It's not a reboot though? It's a sequel. The problem is that arguably, it's a story that doesn't need one.
*hey, we brought back your favorite franchise!*
"how are they going to ruin x now, and will they inject modern day politics that will age like milk"
If we all were so wise to realise this.
This show is like if they made the Terminator a family man and replaced John Connor with a slim teenage girl who can't hold a piece of paper
Ohh wait
Lol
Thank god nothing like that will ever take place. That would be horrifying.
Turning the Terminator into a family man could be a smart idea, if done well. It would be a nice ending to his character arc. It was just done terribly.
@@Alexander-Hatfield Hollywood my friend knows no limits
@@megashark1013 It's a machine, it doesn't have character arc.
So two years on and I'm guessing this got canceled after one season?
Edit: Aaaand I was right! Will they ever learn?
no LUL
@Why The Hell Was I In Star Trek 6? it was meant for one season. you are coping hard but in the end you cannot hide the great reviews. sorry bub
@Why The Hell Was I In Star Trek 6? gone silent at what bitch? You crazy? You havent said anything until now. The cope making You imagine stuff?
It's 2022 and nobody even remembers this show. It got 26 emmy nominations. What a messed up time in history when crap like this got a free pass.
I remember this show, it was great
@@JustaPerson1988 In 6 months, you're the first person who felt the need to say so. I'm glad you liked the show, really, but I think the point stands.
I liked the show too
@Mistur Fixit Agree...show sucked and no one talks about it. It has no lifespan. Like many shows it preferred to preach vs tell a good story.
I love how not one thing in the episode has anything to do with Watchmen. Shouldn't this sort of stuff be, I don't know, illegal?
Fishslap 33 I hope Jeremy Irons is Ozymandias and kills half of humanity again, but I wouldn’t know because I ain’t watching this obvious SJW shit. I’m not even white and I rolled my eyes so fucking hard at the fake racial tension bullshit in the trailers. They’re trying so fucking hard, it’s like Batwoman but with even less lighting it seems 🙄
@@@Mr_Bones. Amen! Collectivism is just not good for producing stories.
Black people = innocent victims who can do no wrong.
White people = Evil racist oppressors, unless they prostrate and debase themselves every day.
And this is I guess fine. Primitive, but fine. It at least contains a small kernel of truth, historically speaking and for the last 500 years.
The real problem is that neither group can manifest any other qualities than the two they have been assigned by the collectivist borg. If you are black you are now an innocent victim, period. No complex emotions, personality or thoughts wanted or required, thank you! Not even positive qualities really, since they might distract from the political message you've been tasked with broadcasting with your black skin.
And the same for white people. Evil racist moron oppressor or GTFO! Obviously this is a lot easier, since you can just pile on the negative traits to your heart's content. The audience will leave hating white people anyway. Or at least the idiotic part of the audience.
I hate collectivism and don't understand why everyone else doesn't hate it too. I will like and dislike exactly who I choose, regardless of their skin or genitals. A black man behaves like an ass I will dislike him. A woman behaves like an ass I will dislike her. A white man behaves well I will like him. I don't give a flying shit about people's skin or genitals, just their individual quality. the Obama-inspired idea that political leaders "represent" us is absurd. I'm white. And I have never felt represented by a politician, because all they do is lie. I hated Bush, I hate Turmp. Both are completely incompetent. But I also hate Obama, and consider him the biggest political fraud since Teddy Roosevelt. Why should black people feel represented by a political fraud just because of his skin color? It\s insulting to black people.
The uncomfortable truth here is that many Jews love collectivism, and they always have. it's their culture really. Jews are always right, goys are always wrong. That is the traditional Jewish ethos. So obviously it's going to apply to everyone else as well when Jews take over a place like Hollywood, which they have. It was inevitable really.
@@resigned liberal It should be illegal though. It's culture and public property. Can a billionaire take a crayon to the Mona Lisa if he just buys it first? I mean, what sort of philistines are running this society anyway if this sort of stuff is "legal"?
@@resigned liberal Yes, life in a philistine empire. Not saying you're not correct, just that this is no way to run a civilization.
Tell that to Starship Troopers.
So why isn't Jussie Smollett starring in this? He was clearly the inspiration for this show.
he could play hooded Justice, the guy with the rope around his neck...perfect
Justice for Juicy
@@theblackflame4002 LOL
@John Wheeler Juicy Smool-yay
@@theblackflame4002 - He's still recovering.
I can't help but wonder how Hollywood's recent "writers" managed to write long enough or have enough success to even be noticed by big studios. If they have no ideas for stories or characters beyond whatever is trending in identity politics, how were they able to create enough compelling material to be recognized in the first place?
The whole show is basically a power fantasy built on the insane world view of the people who wrote it.
Rotten Tomatoes Critics Score: 95%
*Audience Score: 41%*
😂🤣🤣
I'll stick to my ImdB account
Z1BABOUINOS
I concur, ImdB is all that I check out
I saw a 2017 article saying IMDB & Rotten Tomatoes should be ignored as the majority of reviews were by men & they were therefore skewed to male tastes. Had they said that women should take these reviews with a pinch of salt as they tend to have a male bias I would probably have nodded 'Fair point' but the soyboy who wrote the article was seriously saying that EVERYONE should ignore them. While individual reviews can be very subjective, I find IMDB a very good guide on whether or not to watch a film or series based on hundreds or even thousands of reviews averaged out. I trust reviewers such as our pal the Drinker even more & this does indeed sound like a pile of steaming shite which is best avoided.
Z1BABOUINOS Idek why RT exists anymore
I never understood why people idolized bunch of rotten tomatoes to begin with.
@@shiftstart Rotten Tomatoes used to be a pretty decent website. It wasn't until 2016ish when shit started going south. Then it had it's shenanigans with Ghostbuster...now it's been a shitshow.
It seems that Hollywood finally got to them with the recent expansion of reviewers
The Watchmen movie directors cut was 10 years before it's time.
I have no idea why people shit on Zack Snyder. Watchmen was the best adaptation we could hope for and BvS, despite third act issues and shoehorning in Doomsday and Superman's death, is the best popular comic book movie imo.
When James Cameron, Scott Derrickson, Darren Aronofsky and Christopher Fuckin Nolan praise Zack Snyder's Watchmen, anything fuckboys, cineblend, Screen Rant, Comicbook. Com, John Campea, Robert Stroms or the fat fuck of Jodys Corner, anything they say about Zack Snyder is completely irrelevant.
Amen to that brother!
@@Flayne009 i agree about watchmen, there's simply no way you could perfectly adapt the comics to the big screen (which is why the original writer didn't want it done), however, i disagree about BvS. That was bad. He went stomping all over basic character motivations (i.e. having batman kill people). If you want to see a version of BvS that actually does the job, watch the animated movie the dark knight returns. that was great, because they had the 2 fight, but they were fighting because they had to to protect what they believed in, not just for some stupid hostage situation.
@@tjfrye11 I understand Batman's no kill policy is key to his character but I wasn't going to let that ruin the movie for me. I'll just pretend this is Earth 2 or something. Also, the Batman fight scene in the warehouse was the first time I EVER saw Batman on screen and said "Yes, that is Batman from the comics. I'm watching a Batman comic book and it's beautiful."
Thanks for standing up against the insult to the greatest graphic novel of all time.
The show was good though?
@@cocaineanddunhills4801 no
Your simple to the point titles will never cease to entertain me.
The Zack Snyder movie was awesome. Flawed, but awesome
It was ahead of its time. 2009 was still fresh in a way to the superhero movie genre. (Considering Iron Man was 2008) If Watchmen came out today it would be praised more. The movie is one of my favs.
@Jackie Corpron It adapted perfectly the surface and esthetics but missed the deeper themes. People don't hate it, they were just dissapointed (although the opening sequence was glorious)
@@withnail-and-i i agree. That opening sequence was glorious.
I never read the comics. The movie is one of my favorites, though. I am willing to bet that I'd enjoy the comics, too.
I read the comics and I always said to people that Zack probably made the best version of it (besides the version never made by Gilliam but thats in the realm of "what if"). To condense so much material and still be an actual movie movie is a feat on its own, I truly believe that at the time he was the best director for it, plus the man lives and breathes comic books so he tried to respect the source up to maximum.
I guess we got the answer to the question :
"who watches the watchmen?"
Not Damon Lindelof
I see what you did there...
how did they even get rights to the Watchman name? Someone wasn't watching and didn't see the script.
There is actually no watchmen to watch anymore.
"This absolute turd dares to ride the coattails of the Watchmen name. It does this for cheap name recognition and the hopes of capturing a built in audience while simultaneously ignoring or shitting over everything that made Watchment compelling in the first place." -A perfect encapsulation of Hollywood's treatment of beloved IP reboots, remakes, and sequels.
“Watchmen? Did you just assume our gender? Or the fact that we are watchable? Typical patriarch”.
We prefer the term “watchbeings” or “x force”
"Or the fact that we are watchable." Priceless.
Other people made the first part of that lame joke, but you took it to a whole new level. I salute you, Len B.
That clip of Dinklage throwing up never gets old...
I might be the only one who thinks the sound doesn't get so bad after you hear it too many times
Not fond of it, but do think it became a bit of a drinker staple
always makes me sad cos it reminds me of better times when only the first few seasons of got were made.
@@gabrielkawai7494 you think it became? Lol it’s literally a trope he uses specifically
@@jamesbizs obviously, but something becomes a staple when it is used frequently, so whether he chooses to use it or not is irrelevant for something to become a staple of someone... I think you missed the point
Great movies are watched, not made.
-Ruin Johnson.
I dont understand :/
Kei Mist maybe that’s the point 😂😂
Huh 🤔?
@@keimist7398 I think the idea is a movie is only as great as people interpret them for example some people that the new start wars movies are great and think the new joker is terrible
Here's merely saying that Rian Johnson sucks at movies. C'mon people.
By comparison the Mandolorian leaves me waiting for the next week’s episode within the Star Wars universe. This show does nothing but make me appreciate the movie.
finish the whole series, this show is a masterpiece
The show is literal garbage.
@@loyh5269 Is it? I like how it's going but I only saw first 5 episodes.
Edit: I wish I stopped at 5.
Just watch it and make your own judgements, people are so quick to rely on others opinion to formulate their own.
@@jesusblanco7657 lol, or, people have limited time and can't rely on so called movie/tv reviewers anymore
I agree with most of CD’s assessments but even a cursory look at the state of affairs in the world today proves that this is a prescient and valuable show.
I thought the “real” watchmen universe worked well - costumes, squids, what have you - but clearly, we differ on that point.
90% of the time I agree, but not with this one.
Every time he said “Rorshark” I died a little inside
One of lines is someone literally phoneticisng the name. Raw-Shark is correct in universe.
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@@Belzediel A person in the story mispronouncing the name does not make that pronunciation correct. If that were the case, the correct name for the guy who gives out presents on Christmas in The Nightmare Before Christmas would be Sandy Claws. TCD didn't pronounce Rohrshach that way anyway, it was more like "row shark"
I did not like that either
And that's your main gripe with this show?
@@Belzediel Its a Swiss name thats butchered by english pronounciation. I've never heard any english speaking person pronounce it correctly, since the "ch" sound at the end of the name does not exist in english. But i guess you could settle for Rawr-shag. There is definately no r in the second syllable, so Rorshark or similar is flat out wrong.
I could not pass the first15 minutes
I couldn’t even watch it to end of first episode 😭😭😭😭🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤯🤯🤯🤯😤😤😤😤🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Because most of u guys hate to see white supremacy on screen cause u wanna act like it never happened. I know u may deny it or even believe that’s not the case. It is.
The spiritual sequel to Watchmen on TV is "the boys". The Watchmen TV show is just an original show idea with the Watchmen name put on it.
The boys is an adaption of the boys...
A much better casted,acted,and written show. Can't wait to see season two of the Boy's. Couldn't make it to the second episode of ( do not) Watchman . Dreck
Not really. Watchmen movie was pretty decent, despite the flaws, but The Boys was a disappointing mess of predictable plots and boring characters. I guess it should be acknowledged for trying to step away from the cookie-cutter superhero schlock, but it doesn't actually succeed in providing anything new either.
Then again, what else is there to watch these days.
@@grzdrgz Drinker loved it. I'm gonna watch because of his review.
@Wignat Fedposter Well, at least I have an opinion. All you got is offended over a tv show.
Now I want to see "Battle of the Bakers: Hotpie Rises".
EatWave I just wanted Ser Pounce to end up on the Iron Throne :(.
Jack Meoff now I’m bummed out. Thanks dude :(.
Shoulda called it "Wokemen".
He loves the movie and hates the show. That says a lot about his character
Just like Terminator 2, Watchmen didn't need a sequel because there was nothing left to make a sequel with.
Yeah
You do realise Ozymandias didn't destroy the universe, right?
Actually there is a lot left that can be done
I know right?
As Dr Manhattan himself said: “Nothing ever ends Adrian. Nothing ever ends.”
Damon lindelof has decided to run out of ideas at the beginning of a show instead of the ending which is a bold strategy this time around
DJ Keo How the fuck does that man get any work? Like even on a corporate greed perspective, he’s poison and his work gets shit on constantly. Why would anyone hire someone with such a garbage record??
Richard watch The Leftovers and you’ll understand
Snyder Watchmen is vastly underrated. The cinematography alone is amazing
Wow, the “hanging out” pun followed by the manic laughter is what earned this video a thumbs up from this here guy
"Law & Order: Social Justice Unit" LOL
The first Iron Man movie was slightly edgier than the follow ups.
That’s because it wasn’t made by Disney.
You mean the only good iron man
Ian Schmitt iron man 1 is better than good, it’s actually great and one of the best mcu movies, 2 is shit tho and 3 is ok at best
I would go further and say that the first was edgy and the follow ups were not at all edgy.
Iron Man 2 still had that edginess, it just wasn’t a good movie
I've officially given up on TV and movies.
Watched the series when it came out, but if you offered me 1bilion dollars to retell you the end and name just 1 character or even what the show was about. Might as well offer me all the wealth of the world i still wouldnt remember anything of it.
The burger analogy was... weird, yet strangely accurate.
*weird
@@Bobba8590 Fixed.
It opens your eyes.
That is a very astute observation, LadyDoomsinger!
The word 'albeit' would fit wonderfully in place of 'yet'.
@@fraillittlegoblin8664 it opens something...
95% on RT, too. Just like Batwoman. Shocker!
Batwoman is a 72
@Tom Campbell is it really that bad?
I'm genuinely curious to know how much hate is from the "she's gay" crowd and the "she's not gay enough" crowd.
Just like this review on watchmen, it seems mostly charged by the political connotations and not an actual review of whats going on.
@@justifano7046 People don't like Batwoman because of the way they handle the story, the characters, the acting, the writing is so bad and boring. And the worst part and where is getting more hate is the sjw shit in this show. They just are pushing agendas behind a known name.
@@velvet3484 isn't batwoman gay in the comics?
Edit:
Yeah she's a Jewish lesbian.
@@justifano7046 it doesn't matter if she's gay. Most people don't care if a character is gay, and batwoman is gay in the comics. The issue is when the gay female character keeps going on about how gay and female they are. A prime example is in the batwoman trailer itself, the song in the background literally says 'I'm a woman, here I come'. How cringey would it be if I made a trailer with a song that said 'I'm a man, here I come.' ? It just wouldn't happen, because being that other 50% of the population doesn't make you special either. She also says that the bat suit will be perfect when it fits a woman. Now, personally I haven't watched the show, but the trailer left such a bad impression on me I don't think I ever would.
You can tackle themes that involve gender or sexuality in a mature way, but the whole 'I'm a woman hear me roar!' Trope is very overplayed and quite frankly boring now. It was fun and interesting when movies like Charlie's angels were introduced, but it has lost any sense of originality it once had.
I think the problem people who are against the politicization of media run into is that it's very easy to straw man them into looking like racists, sexists or homophobes, and it's also that racists, homophobes and sexists are also against social justice messaging, so it's ultimately easy for people who dislike political media to get lumped in with people who are genuinely bigoted.
I thought that the series overall was pretty good and i thought the ending was great
Your Weird
JJ
Same here. Drinker is trippin'.
he’s talking about the first episode, not the whole show
@@duyvo9148 I doubt it. It really wasn't that bad.
It was really good by the end and soundtrack on its own. First episode I guess go with it.
Also I was intoxicated when I watched this the first time.
You mean botchmen!
Oh god, what did they do to Rorschach's mask ;_;
Ruined it like they do to everything that's cool.
turned it white supremacist.
Did it have eye holes? Was there a scene with eye holes in It? Maybe I'm drunk of fumes or something?
@Spider-Venom and there was me already to sober up and watch it again... ffs!!
And the hits just keep on coming ! Star trek , Star wars ,Doctor who , Predator , Terminator,
and now Watchmen ,all TRASHED
Was the new predator movie really that bad?
@@pbradics3670 You not wrong there. I'm just glad it wasn't be in the identity politics kind of way.
I might be misremembering it but I remember the CGI being pretty good.
@@pbradics3670 No denying that. When I saw the new terminator trailers and the independent reviews on them. First thing I did was revisit the golden era of Terminator 1 & 2.
It's like the entertainment industry WANTS to go bankrupt. And they wanna go out with a BANG !
They're only trashed if you allow them to be trashed in your heart.
"whatever happened to the american dream?" "" it came true...."
Show definitely isn't perfect but improves and makes nice references to the original show by the end of the season. Give it a watch all the way through and rethink rethink it
So basically: they use the name of a popular franchise hoping to get viewers who thinks it has something to do with that franchise even though it doesn't.
It doesn't?
What about it doesn't have to do with watchmen?
@@justifano7046 More importantly: what does? Except for the name, what does it have to do with Watchmen?
@@urbanberndtsson
A heavily political take of real world tensions with a hint of supernatural/unrealism.
It's an alternate universe take on the world we live in today.
One that exists in the aftermath of the watchmen graphic novel.
So again I ask, how's it not watchmen?
Because there's no guys in capes?
@@justifano7046
There's a heavy political take for sure, but (for the first episode at least) nothing supernatural aside from the squidrain, and that wasn't even talked about.
Alternate universe? check. Nothing exclusive to Watchmen though.
And yes, they claim it's the aftermath of the novel, but the only one from there is Veidt and he has yet to do anything.
How is it not watchmen? Well, there's no relation in the themes, at least from the first episode. "Who watches the watchers", it's about how people react to those "guys in capes" you seemingly waved off as silly.
As Drinker put it, it's a political drama with the Watchmen name slapped on it.
@@urbanberndtsson
It's not a copy and paste of the exact same themes, but the overrall theme(alternate universe take on real world tensions) is the same.
If they just copy and pasted the Vietnam War into 2019 that wouldn't make sense.
If they just copy and pasted someone getting raped, it'd be an issue.
While it hasn't been blatantly stated, the "who watches the watchers" could be an even stronger influence here.
Ie who polices the police?
They wear masks, and can do pretty much whatever they want(when the black chick assaults that guy in the bathroom)
With 0 consequences.
Just because no one has written on a brick wall "who polices the police" doesn't mean the theme doesn't exist.
Things like that are better shown not told
From the moment the show started, I felt like I was at the wrong party. You know like wearing the wrong clothes, the wrong hat, and everyone is staring at you and hating you. I can only conclude that this show was not made for me, but for someone else, who is not only not me, but actively hates me and wants me to leave. Yeah, so I left.
Well stated.
I had the same feeling with season 11 of Doctor Who. I left too.
I recently re-watched The Mighty Boosh :-)
Right on. I'm brown, and this show is not only anti-white. It's anti-American. The people who have the American flag are shown in a trailer park ghetto. During the pod interrogation scene the American flag is shown on the wall immediately following a nazi flag. Obviously for subliminal association to influence the less intelligent. The black people are great, friendly, pillars of the community. I wonder why black politicians don't live in black neighborhoods. Skin color does not matter. In the end, each individual needs to be judged on their own merit.
Yes. I didn't say I was white either and I don't want to make this into a black vs white thing. It's far more disturbing than that. With whom does anyone come together in a show like that, other fans who are really into it, a shared set of … if not values, then at least hope that something good might come of this? Whatever that party is they're having there, it was actively designed to not welcome me as a guest.
"Just a bunch of people doing their jobs - same lines" ... that's the feeling, right on spot man
Oof really missed the boat on this one. It was a fantastic series!
Essentially, “The Boys” is the closest thing to what a TV series adaptation of Watchmen might have been...
I love The Boys but it honestly doesn’t have nearly the atmosphere or depth of themes as Watchmen.
Feels more like a parody of Superhero comics than a deconstruction as it ends up sharing a lot of the same tropes. The characters do pretty dumb stuff all the time without consequences when they should realistically be dead.
@@LawsofPaul You're both wrong imho, the TV Show The Boys is garbage in comparison to the Comic. Both Comics are, wait for it..., legendary. They share just a couple of plot points, Superheroes, Revenge (The Boys more than Watchmen), Morale Ambiguity, Romance, Friendship, World Crisis, Problems of how to deal with Superpowers. The Boys deals with it more on the humorous side, more degeneracy, more brutality, but is in the end a kind of Revenge Saga, the Watchmen deals with it more on the philosophical Side, more like an Homage to thousands of years of questions we as Humans tend to have on life and society in general. Both ends are genius-like imho, but kind of sad and realistic, of course in their own way and world. The Boys as TV Show already can't end like the Comic anymore, the Revenge Butcher wants, is made obsolete, which is kind of strange, because it is the core of the Story, that's why its garbage for me, many actions of the Main Characters don't make sense anymore...
@@matthiasblum6555 The boys comic is literally just edgy and cringe
Honestly Watchmen (movie) is the best adaptation. I think it's not meant to be a series bc it doesn't have that many material
@@matthiasblum6555 cringe comic fanboy
ironically the show, hbo and the rest of Hollywood are all pulling an Ozymandias lie to the public
1984 at its finest
This so much
Ozymandias was convincing and his idea made sense to a certain extent. This, not so much.
True true true
Lindelof was born in Englewood, New Jersey, the son of Susan (Klausner), a teacher, and David Herbert Lindelof, a bank manager.[3][4] Lindelof's mother is Ashkenazi Jewish, with family from Białystok, Poland
Say no more!
of course
"And Judd's hanging out with him; but he's not exactly the life of the party anymore..." Hahaha, im dead 💀
Not as dead as good ol' Judd.
Up next: A Clockwork Orange
Set 50 years later, the street gangs are gone, new political structures are in place, and the main character is a descendant of someone who was raped by some gang. Not the girl that gets raped in the movie mind you, just some other random victim. So now the central theme of the series is the main character struggling against patriarchy and rape culture. At some point someone puts on a bowler.
I will bet real money they do this in my lifespan.
the non-binary protagonist would be of mix race - as the mother would have been a WOC. So, not only does she struggle against the patriarchy and rape culture, but also find it increasingly difficult to exist in a racist white society that does not accept her because of her 'ethnic' looks. At some point she goes out to get a drink of chocolate milk.
Will they still be drinking milk?
Because milk is white and therefore racist.
@@remc0s - prepared for that contingency - hence the _chocolate_ milk reference above.
@@mambi74 I hadn't read your comment yet. I just reacted to the OP.
Are we sure that this Damon Lindelof isn't really Uwe Boll? This sounds just terrible. I Alan Moore went on a murder spree and killed these people and I were on the jury I'd vote to nullify.
This was probably a smash hit in California
The problem with Watchmen: Damon Lindelof.
The problem with Star Trek Into Darkness: Damon Lindelof.
The problem with Prometheus: Damon Lindelof.
The problem with Lost: Damon Lindelof.
See a pattern? Please stop hiring this hack writer.
same goes for JJ Abrams
The Leftovers was actually great writing. But yeah this is trash
@@kratostwin20 I couldn't watch that shit show either.
The Problem with Man United's back 4: Victor Lindelof
Kevin Fritz knows
I am befuddled as to how Damon Lindelof keeps getting work.
If you are pushing the _money's narrative_ hard enough, you can fail up.
Befuddled... perplexed...you name it...
Albert Romanov because he’s an extremely talented writer, watch the Leftovers.
The connection to JJ.
>Checks wikipedia, early life... every damn time
Looking glass was easily the best character and i thought he had a really cool backstory
White guy here. Irish from Ireland. Former US military. We military types just want to live and let live, Just leave us alone.
They somehow found a way to deconstruct a deconstruction. I'm legitimately impressed at how awful this was.
😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣
Understanding the source material has become a detriment to your career prospects.
If you're smart enough to understand it, you won't pander to make politics happy.
It's all, 'white man bad'. Failing to mention all the luxuries they enjoy, like clean water, electricity, edible food, phones, computers, clothing, hot and cold water, air conditioning, cars, planes, stereos, education, and a myriad of other things they wouldn't otherwise have.
I'm a simple man. I see a racebait series, i don't watch it.
cletos normally I’d agree but you’re missing out on this one. This video didn’t age well; watchmen was fantastic by the 6th episode
Yup
Eh. There's plenty of movies about Pearl Harbor, movies about the Japanese vs the Chinese in World War 2, 300 was about Middle Easterners attacking Europeans, but comicfied.. This happens to a show where white Americans terrorized Black Americans (but comicfied), which was a common occurrence in the US. It's not racebaiting you just don't like the reality of the narrative.
@@michaelmura9552 Your argument would be valid if not by the fact i don't like any of the things you listed either.
Fuck racebait series and movies. Never liked them. The fact they're Pretty common don't make them any less apelative or cheap.
@@michaelmura9552 So pearl harbor, WWII and 300 were movies about racism??? Oh no, they were movies about historical struggles between opposing countries. It takes a racist to do what you just did.
Also, you left out the one war that could possibly be all about race and thats if you ignore all the other politics involved. But yeah, orange man bad or something
Bottom line to all these new shows is if you're a man that's bad, and if you are a white man that's really bad
it’s really weird seeing this message over and over, like it’s apologising for whites being basically the driving force of civilisation (besides the asians, they were pretty good, especially the Japanese)
He is so mad that when he tell us to go away, He sound like a grumpy old man try to kept some kids out of his yard
Whenever Hollywood addresses race issues it's always the same one-note chorus unfounded in reality.
Reality seen from the eyes of a white liberal.
"alternate reality" I like how somewhere in your mind, that was an actual opinion
@bigbenhoward Same bed; can't disown them now!
Left = wrong.
Which ethnic group runs Hollywood and what’s their agenda?
@@anathema2me4EVR Leprechauns, and they're after your pot of gold.
Haha! Love the burger analogy.
I actually used a restaurant analogy back in 2019 when one of my colleagues, who really liked the final season of Game of Thrones, asked me what authority I had as a "non-creative" to criticise the season's writing and if I could do any better.
I can't remember the full argument but I think I said : "Now, I couldn't go home and make a lobster thermidor with caviar off-the-cuff by myself. I don't have the skills, knowledge, or equipment. I'm no Raymond Blanc! But if I went to one of Raymond Blanc's restaurant and ordered a lobster thermidor with caviar, only to hear he had hired a couple of Macdonalds cooks who were only able to make me a cold fish finger and egg sandwich, I'd have a few concerns. I'd complain. I'd criticise. Because, where I couldn't make one myself, I know roughly what should be in a lobster thermidor and I know what it should taste like."
Him: "Maybe your expectations are too high."
Me: "It's expectations they set themselves!" 😂
I'm more fond of the "pilot" metaphor:
"I'm not a pilot. The closest I've even gotten to flying is in videogames. But if I see a plane crash, I don't have to be a pilot to realize someone messed up somewhere!"
Nice try. The correct answer is you don't need to be a Michelin star chef to know when your plate is a pile of shit.
good analogy
This…is the one time I really disagree with you. I thought it was pretty good.
I loved the Movie because I never read the novel...V for vendetta is my favorite though
Wokemen*
you tried. and you deserve a medal for that.
Sigh, another simple sheep bleating words after the rest of the herd.
The comic was always woke
Who woke the wokemen?
lel