Civilization 7 Expectations from An Economist Plays

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  • čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
  • I've played Civilization games for 33 years now, so what are my thoughts on what Civilization 7 be like? Well, it's a bit of a ramble, and I consider the history of the franchise along with recent game successes and flops and I think that helps my crystal ball get a bit of a peek at what the future holds.
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Komentáře • 54

  • @jukeseyable
    @jukeseyable Před 25 dny +9

    Civ 4 was by far the best of the series, and one of the greatest games of all time

    • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 Před 25 dny +3

      Based take. I’m 27 though, I got into Civ 5 heavily so I’m biased.
      But I can only imagine my bias of Civ 5 is the same you got for Civ 4. Mad respect.

  • @sdl1ishappy
    @sdl1ishappy Před 25 dny +7

    I loved Civ V, but I took to unstacked cities like a duck to water and there was no going back. I couldn't give a hoot about cartoony graphics - in fact, I grew to love them as I found the brightness easy on the eyeballs. I am looking forward to seeing how they will innovate Civ 7.

  • @icecreambaker
    @icecreambaker Před 27 dny +10

    I wonder the landowners will approve of this??

  • @LCMHUNG
    @LCMHUNG Před dnem +1

    I was also almost the same age as you at 22 when Civ I came out. It impacted us the whole generation. Thanks for the video. It made me feel not being alone.

  • @MrJayjayhawker
    @MrJayjayhawker Před 25 dny +6

    I loved the cinematic videos for wonders in Civ II

    • @monkeytime9851
      @monkeytime9851 Před 7 dny +1

      I miss the arguments between the advisors. I don't recall if that was civ 2 or 3, but it was great.

    • @An_Economist_Plays
      @An_Economist_Plays  Před 6 dny

      @monkeytime9851 Civ 2. There were times it got old, but then there was the anarchy period that was always worth a laugh.

  • @monkeytime9851
    @monkeytime9851 Před 7 dny +1

    I would like to see them include world changing events that actually change the game.

    • @An_Economist_Plays
      @An_Economist_Plays  Před 7 dny

      The catch is if they wreck things, they're not likely to be included as a main path option, as most players would want to bypass events seen as game-wrecking. But if it's game-bending, yes, I think we'd have some winning approaches there!

  • @eli-la-ceti4318
    @eli-la-ceti4318 Před 6 dny +1

    civs 5 is my go to game i have that moded out so much the best mod is Advanced Air-Naval-Ground Units Megamod

  • @kenhill5214
    @kenhill5214 Před 17 dny +1

    6:40 Civ3 I never got into because I discovered Europa Universalis at the same time.

    • @An_Economist_Plays
      @An_Economist_Plays  Před 17 dny

      EU was a *huge* distraction, and it scratched that "hard history" itch of many a gamer, that's for sure!

  • @tbone2646
    @tbone2646 Před 26 dny +3

    I just want an AI that is competent enough to actually play the game, I think it's impossible to lose a game of Civ 6

    • @An_Economist_Plays
      @An_Economist_Plays  Před 26 dny +1

      When I first started, it was plenty possible. :-) But, yes, a well-trained human can roll over the AI - so I try to do things that tie my hands like religion-only or conquest via culture flipping only. That or try to beat the game in X turns or less.

    • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 Před 25 dny

      Difficulty is a strange topic in the civ games. Since map settings and choice of civ can massively impact difficulty. The player determines difficulty tbh.
      Or are you just such a massive chad that diety 1 city challenges are child’s play to you? If so, I’m sorry I questioned you, master.

    • @tbone2646
      @tbone2646 Před 25 dny

      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 its not a question of just giving the computer teams economic advantages so they can fail more efficiently than you can succeed
      its the fact that AI literally doesn't know how to play - have you ever seen the cities they build? there no logic to them
      ever seen the armies they build or how they deploy them? same applies, it's just random
      I've played every edition of civ and IMO it peaked with civ 4. Since they went 1UPT the AI can't manage, and they now increase the complexity of the game without the AI even able to do the basics

    • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 Před 25 dny +1

      @@tbone2646 makes sense, yeah I see it.

  • @arthuralpaca
    @arthuralpaca Před 25 dny +1

    15:00 you were on point.

  • @channdler
    @channdler Před 27 dny +1

    I love your channel keep it up, the little player count graph was great. I would love to hear some old game stories from maybe the 90s or 2000s if you have any.
    I really think cities skylines 2 is not that bad. i play it like a city painter just building the type of fake city i would want, the highways are fun definitely needs work though. Agree on vic 3!

  • @Swolf
    @Swolf Před 24 dny +1

    Hello! I stumbled upon your channel with this video and after checking out your other videos, i love your style of narration and how relaxing it is.
    Have you thought about playing civilisation games and uploading them to your channel?

    • @An_Economist_Plays
      @An_Economist_Plays  Před 24 dny

      That is about to happen. Anything in them you'd like to see?

    • @Swolf
      @Swolf Před 24 dny +1

      @@An_Economist_Plays Brilliant! I can't think of anything in particular. I look forward to when you upload them!

  • @darwinroblox_2022
    @darwinroblox_2022 Před 26 dny +1

    Brought back some happy memories playing one of those older Civs on my Amiga! Anyway back to Vicky3…. 😀

  • @inditsnotdenon922
    @inditsnotdenon922 Před 26 dny +3

    I just want beyond earth 2

  • @TheBestMCScavenger
    @TheBestMCScavenger Před 26 dny +2

    Civilization Revolution was the first strategy game I played on the PS3 when I was like 8 and then I played civ 4 on pc when I was like 12. I played the hell out of civ 5 but never played civ 6 because I was playing paradox games by that point. Once I got EU4 I don’t think I ever played a game of civ again.

  • @isaacshultz8128
    @isaacshultz8128 Před 26 dny +1

    Civ 5 my beloved

  • @Zarastro54
    @Zarastro54 Před 25 dny +1

    They need to somehow develop riverine travel and the use of rivers as trade routes.

    • @An_Economist_Plays
      @An_Economist_Plays  Před 24 dny

      That was in Civ 1, when rivers were in spaces, not on the lines between them.

  • @StrudelerOfTheTSociety
    @StrudelerOfTheTSociety Před 27 dny +1

    Keep expectations low now, be more satisfied later.

    • @An_Economist_Plays
      @An_Economist_Plays  Před 27 dny

      I've got them at moderate, don't want a massive shock in case it's good at launch!

  • @ExpedientFalcon
    @ExpedientFalcon Před 27 dny +1

    The tragedy of CS2 is in Colossal Order and Paradox's management of the release and the post-release. The game did clearly have potential to me on release, as someone who played a lot of the first game, things like the scale of buildings, the road tool, etc. were vastly improved, but the game just had so many bugs at release. The thing that absolutely flopped it is that instead of listening to the players, instead of fixing the bugs and giving us a playable game, they stuck to their slow 1-month patch cycle when the game was in an unplayable state due to the bugs, and stuck to focusing on releasing what may be the most pathetic DLC in the history of gaming, to the point that they had to refund everyone who purchased the DLC and give it to us for free. But we can at least be glad that Paradox seems to have learned some sort of lesson, as they pushed back the future DLC dates on CS2 to focus on fixing the game, and they pushed back the release date on Spheres of Influence to make sure it doesn't suffer the same problems as CS2. But for CS2, it may be too late for a lot of players as there's already that broken trust.

  • @1Maklak
    @1Maklak Před 25 dny +1

    There is also freeciv, but it's kind of meh. Honorable mention to Alpha Centauri.

  • @isaacshultz8128
    @isaacshultz8128 Před 26 dny +1

    What event caused the common era to begin?

    • @An_Economist_Plays
      @An_Economist_Plays  Před 26 dny +1

      That's just it - there is none. But our calendars reach back to mark time from when Christianity *thought* Jesus was born, when we now know it may have been 4-6 years prior to that. Since events of the 19th and 20th century made the European-Christian calendar dominant globally, it's now seen as more accurate to just call it all "Common Era" and not move everything by 4-6 years.

    • @isaacshultz8128
      @isaacshultz8128 Před 26 dny +1

      @@An_Economist_Plays I see what you're saying but I think it is a deliberate move away from the religious roots of the calendar and a way of virtue signalling that you are being politically correct.
      Your video was well done btw

    • @An_Economist_Plays
      @An_Economist_Plays  Před 26 dny +2

      @@isaacshultz8128 it's actually notation that has origins in the 17th and early 18th centuries. It's now in common usage academically, I see its usage more a key to being understood by a wider audience. If I was doing a geology video, I'd use MYA notation, but that's a bit overkill for a timespan of a few thousand years. 😊
      The AD notation itself was a shift from the then-dominant AM system, anno martyri. AM is still used by Coptic Christians. AD prevailed in Roman churches while Greek ones used Etos Kosmou dating. Ethiopian and Armenian churches also have their own calendars. Even among major branches of Christianity we see calendar differences, so "CE" becomes a non-denominational compromise of sorts.

  • @RichardPhillips1066
    @RichardPhillips1066 Před 25 dny +1

    6 lost focus the last dlc i didn't bother to buy , let's hope they refocus on improving core mechanics and innovative ideas

  • @Leivve
    @Leivve Před 27 dny +1

    Would love to see you narrativizing the trials of immortal god king Ashikaga, and their noble resistance against the vile English.

    • @An_Economist_Plays
      @An_Economist_Plays  Před 27 dny

      Well, that's *one* vote for that activity! :-) I'll keep a running total. :-)

  • @faerieprincess1232
    @faerieprincess1232 Před 27 dny +1

    10:16 Masters of Orion 2 mentioned 👍

  • @Zawiedek
    @Zawiedek Před 26 dny +1

    Maybe your memories cheated on you a little bit, but cultural and diplomatic winning conditions were introduced with CivIII. CivIV made them stronger and introduced religions.