How I Became a P-47 Fighter Ace
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- čas přidán 2. 02. 2024
- Is the P-47 a competitive fighter in War Thunder Sim Battles?
This video is a story driven War Thunder Simulator Battles match where I fly the P-47 and it is probably my most ambitious video yet.
I hope you enjoy this little attempt in making a normal simulator battles game even more interesting.
I fly the P-47D-28 in BR 4.0 on the Stalingrad map. - Hry
.50 Cals aren’t modeled properly in game. If you watch American Gun Cam Footage you’ll see a one second burst of 50s cause ammo detonations (not coded in WT), instant fires, wings snapping off, etc.
I respectfully disagree. In my opinion the AN/M2 .50-caliber machine gun seems to be pretty balanced with respect to other similar weapon systems such as the 12.7mm Berezin UB or other equivalent machine guns.
The Axis heavy machine guns such as the German 13mm MG131, Italian Breda-SAFAT, or the Japanese Ho-103 are a bit different because they have explosive bullets and their damage mechanics are correspondingly slightly different and they shouldn't be directly compared to the M2 which relies mostly on armour piercing and incendiary effects for damage.
As far as being modeled properly... With good solid hits, you get good solid results, including ammo detonations (which are coded in WT but are fairly rare as they would have been in real life), instant fires (depending on where you hit and whether the target has protected fuel tanks or not, and even structural failures although that obviously takes numerous concentrated hits.
Perhaps you need to improve your aim? The M2 -50-cal is a great weapon, and although the 20mm or 30mm cannons obviously do more damage with single hits (as it should be), planes with .50-cals usually benefit from higher number of guns as well as higher ammo counts so you can fire longer and score more hits.
I agree. My guns did cause a lot of critical damage which mean the enemy was unable to keep up so they aren't that bad.
I'm used to cannons just exploding my enemies.
And it could be that in this game, I didn't hit any of the parts that causes plane to explode. Like the fuel tank.
Could be that I didn't managed to hit the fuel tank and wing spars. I think I did a bit more control surface damage.
And hey, thanks for watching :)
@@HerraTohtori You’d be incorrect. Gaijin has stated that the ingame model has been weaker than it should be. Especially the incendiary rounds, they are barely correct and only cause fires with direct impacts. The M20 belt should shred targets.
Don’t go saying my aim is bad either, I’ve sprayed targets for a good 3-4 seconds and the rounds would do little damage compared to other 50 cals.
@@ice6193 What other heavy machine guns are you comparing the M2 with? The axis MG's, as mentioned, use very different ammo types to augment their damage output (usually because Axis aircraft had much fewer machine guns than US aircraft did).
Also, for what it's worth, if you're hitting something with 3-4 second burst with heavy machine gun (even just one), and not doing significant damage, you're not hitting the target in the right place.
Armor-piercing incendiary bullets are not some kind of magical explosive shells. They penetrate armour and have an incendiary effect that can cause fires if they end up in contact with flammable vapours, and even then there is a big difference between protected (self-sealing) fuel tanks and unprotected fuel tanks.
Fires are simply not a guaranteed outcome, and just looking at some gun camera footage isn't valid evidence because you don't have the entire data set at your disposal so you can't make any kind of informed statement about the frequency of fires as a result of hitting enemy aircraft.
The videos you've seen may easily have been selected specifically because of the particularly impressive results make for better propaganda than 99 videos about planes getting shot and pilot bailing from seemingly intact aircraft, and one video about the enemy plane bursting into a visible fireball.
As for Gaijin's statements, I would very much want to see a link to that. From my standpoint, the AN/M2 stands to scrutiny and has pretty reasonable performance right now. It's a deadly weapon system and for some reason I'm not having the problems you mentioned.
Hey, just want to tell you, your story telling and videos are awesome. It’s like the unfolding of a pilots memoirs but less words, more action. Also the editing is clearly a heap of time and energy, but really makes a huge difference.
That is very kind of you. Now I'm gonna hurry up and finish my next movie. Thanks for the encouraging words.
And you're right, they take a lot of time and energy :)
I loved your previous ace videos, and seeing this really answers that constant debate over how this plane was so effective during ww2, while being so big and heavy.
The P-47 is such an iconic plane and I had my doubts that I was going to be able to perform in it. But, if you fly it as intended, it is hard to beat!
And I'm glad you enjoyed my other video! :)
It was a beaut for sure only reason the US started using P-51s for escort was due to the 47 being a better option for Ground strike missions then building a designated attacker
Mhh...
The P47 is petty powerful.
You're Allright though.
I used to 1v1 people in the P47. It’s so much fun. Hits like a truck. Love getting into slow fights with it, where it really tests your pilot skills.
Very underrated channel
Bro P47 is incredibly good. It has a sucky reputation cs WarThunder players dont know how to use it & what the hell they are doing. I have steam rolled the enemy team as a supportive P47 fighter. I think my victory rate is 60%+ in this plane. But I also love the German fighters too.
I got my first sim kill today with a bf 109 g2!
That's awesome man :) congrats.
It is so satisfying, and it continues to be so. Maybe not AS satisfying as the first kill, but still.
Great videos man, I'd love to see one on the yellow nosed Bf 109 E3
I have a video on the Bf 109 F2 if you haven't seen it yet.
But I do like the Bf 109 E3 even more than the F2 as it is fighting on a lower BR. And I think it looks cooler aswell :)
Woow impressive handeling of the plane 😮 Really managing it's strengths and weaknesses. Great Video thank You!
Thanks man! :)
I found myself really enjoying the italian d30 since its the same plane with an airbrake at a lower br, another plane you should try an ace video with is the g56
Yeah the italian is almost at a too low BR:)
I have to take out the G56 some more. I enjoy the C.205 so I probably enjoy the G56 as well. I have been shot down by pilots in the G56/G55 plenty of times.
@@involuntarycommander8804 the g55 isn't as good because if you dont get a 4.7 3.7 game you have to deal with lf mk 9 spits getting spammed out but its still decent
Dunno if that is still the case but back then the P-47 was hilariously undertiered. It was fighting BF 109 E-3s, F-2s and early Fw 190 Antons. ANd judging by the enemy types you shoot down this is still the case.
The 47 is hilariously good against these comparatively slow aircraft. The average war thunder joe just fails to exploit that.
It is the same now. The latest Bf 109 that they use at BR 3.7 is the F-2.
You're right. If you can figure out how to fly the P-47, you can pretty much choose every engagement. You can catch and run away from everyone.
Great video! I just started playing this thing and i play it very similarly to you. I dont have problems getting behind the enemy planes, the only problem i have is that when i try to aim, i cant get good shots in a short enough time. I bought a VKB gladiator 2 weeks ago and i tried adjusting every setting for controls and i dont see much improvement. Should i buy an extender so the stick is a bit longer? Do you have any other advice? Anyways great video. Btw sorry for my english
Thanks man. I'd say give it some more time. Maybe find a plane you do well in and master it. Then you'll enjoy your practise more :) that's how I learnt.
A stick extender will in theory give you better control over fine adjustments in your aim. But you have to have the setup for it.
Anyway, nice to hear that you enjoy my stuff:)
Thanks for the reply. I just noticed that an extender would probably destroy the gimble so ig i will have to just get used to it
@@mtbwithjure7809 you'll get used to it , I'm sure. Good luck to you and have fun!
I tried commenting on this video twice and for some reason it's not working, maybe this time it will work. Anyway great video, I love the P-47
It worked now!
Thanks man
Is there a chance that you can cover the TA 152 H-1. I’m doing really good in it but feel I don’t use the aircraft to its full capability’s in certain situations since it has a quite unique play style in the German tree.
I'd like to cover the Ta 152 H-1 eventually, so yes, there is a big chance I'll make a video about it :) I just don't know when, hopefully soon!
I haven't flown it as extensively as many of the other more common fighters. So I can't give you any quick tips now.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it turn pretty well at certain speeds? I'll have to take it out tonight to try :)
hi man love your videos, do you play with a flight stick? because i want play sim with a flightstick so maybe i can get some tips out of your video
Yes I do play the game with flight stick.
I don't know if you already have one, but if there is one setting to mess about with in the game, it's the pitch sensitivity.
You are welcome to ask me later if you haven't got one yet.
And thanks for watching :)
@@involuntarycommander8804 i havent got one yet but it comes this week, but whats with the sens so i can check it?
It's an ingame setting. You can lower the sensitivity if you feel your plane too easily enters a spin or similar.
So it's a thing to check out efter you bought a stick. :)
Good luck!
@@involuntarycommander8804 thanks! i didnt even know that.
No worries :)
Flying in il2 compared to war thunder is like a night and day difference.
Due to the fact that I am actually in control of my aircraft, rather than constantly fighting it.
I have some experience of IL-2. I would say there are some differences for sure but quite similar overall.
I'm guessing you're saying il-2 planes are easier to control? War thunder requires a lot more trim from my experience. If you have any interest in War thunder simulator battles maybe try fiddling around with the trim settings of the planes you want to fly. And also the sensitivity.
Good luck to you!
@@involuntarycommander8804 the yak series in il2 flies extremely stable and smooth. While the one in war thunder requires a lot of trimming and the torque is so strong.
In il2 I definitely feel the air resistance hitting my control surfaces. While in war thunder it takes so much effort to simply fly in a stable manner.
I agree. But I would argue that the Yak series is a pretty stable plane in WT if you compare it to the spitfires in WT which can be very hard to control until you find the right settings.
So you definitely have to muck about more in the settings in WT. In IL-2 I've barely have had to do that.
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I don’t understand how a pure flight simulator have easier planes to control compared to war thunder. It just doesn’t make sense.
I’m also able to fly in dcs with any trouble, while I am struggling hard with war thunder’s flight model.
@wongarnold2879 I guess it is due to all of the planes they have cramed into the game. You kinda have to have specific settings for every plane you fly.
That is my tip. I wish you good luck man. :)
Damn this looks so good I need a joystick :P
It is a lot of fun! I went all in with joystick and head tracker (trackIR) and never looked back.
I suppose you can try sim out with mouse and keyboard. But it will not be the same. Not for me anyway:)
Hope to see you in game!
why trackIR and not VR im thinking witch one to choose
@@involuntarycommander8804
I guess VR could be cool but the ones that are good feels a bit expensive still. I still enjoy my TrackIR until they become more affordable.
P-47 work really well in WT compared to IL-2 where it just wants to drop from the sky..
There a lot more stuff to manage in il-2.
I haven't yet got the hang of the P-47 in that game.
There a lot more stuff to manage in il-2.
I haven't yet got the hang of the P-47 in that game.
@@involuntarycommander8804 Yes there is, for me engine management is simple, but it just is a brick. They are fixing its flightmodel this spring tho! :)
Senta a Pua!!!!!!!
Will you make a video about p61c-1?
Maybe!
I have a few other planes I want to go through first.
I have a question what type of set up do you use for sim battles?
I use a HOTAS to control my plane and to look around I use a TrackIR. :)
what input do you use? (m&k or throttle & stick?)
I use a throttle and stick!
To look around I use TrackIR.
I had my most successful simulator game in the German p-47. 42 kills in total.
That is some impressive stats!
would you ever think about trying out the F7F?
I'm guessing that is the tigercat. I don't have that one yet. I will definitely try it out.
@@involuntarycommander8804 Yeah got lucky enough to get the F7F-3 rare Tigercat and its been a blast in Sim
What battles to you play? I love my 47
I'm not a 100% sure what you mean. I usually play br 3.0 - 6.3 in air sim. Sometimes in ground sim but as CAS.
It's a good plane!
thanks what i was asking i play sim too but how do you go outside the plane
@@involuntarycommander8804
You can only be in cockpit view in sim battles mode
I play 3.0 to 6.3 too! We should squad up! I’m in VR tho lol
Can anyone explain the difference between Realistic Battles and Simulator Battles in WT?
A pretty big difference is that you are locked in cockpit view. And there are different game modes such as enduring confrontation which is a game continuing for up to 3 hours I belive.
You use track ir??
I do :)
when is the next vid? its been 3 months now are you alright
The next video is nearly complete. Im alright! I have had a lot of IRL things going on lately preventing me from working on the next video. :)
P-47 is not that good in this game 😬
It sits in BR 3.7 where it is pretty strong in terms of speed.
If you fly it right you can choose every encounter. In my opinion ;)
Is it 3.7 in sim? Pretty sure that p-47 is like 5.0 in RB and gets torn to shreds
@make1up726 I looked it up. This one is in BR 4.3 in sim. It goes up against bf 109 F which it outspeeds.
I never play RB really so I have no idea how it is there.
I usually play RB, it's higher there and you get run down by so many things it really doesn't have an advantage now in that mode. Also try the ground belts on the .50s they seem to do more reliable damage even though they don't start fires as easy.
Yeah I have noticed ground belts feels better. Good tip!