GMC Yukon HVAC Blower Motor Won't Turn On
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- čas přidán 29. 10. 2017
- How to test the blower motor switches, blower resistor (which is a module on this one) and the blower motor itself will be shown in this video.
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Paul Danner is a one in a million instructor. I didnt know anything about automotive controls a year ago, now I troubleshoot my own vehicles because SD Premium opened up that world to me. Thank you Paul!
Thank you for this comment! That is awesome to hear.
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This is a right diagnoses and helpful.But there is still my be a soldiering problem within the bowler Model or a losing harness.
I did mention that and also that the harness was fine.
@@ScannerDanner,
You are so blessed to have a readily available camera man you already know how to communicate with. Having a living breathing mind behind that lens leaves you free to teach.
I bet a close inspection of that board under a good magnifying lens would reveal just what you said. Thank you lead free solder.
Every day I go through preliminary steps and think of the variables to a situation to carry out a professional diagnosis, and it has made me more successful as a Semi Tech. I would never have known these steps if it wasn't for Paul. Learning from Paul has improved my life, and others that I have help along the way. Thank you.
Thanks so much!
Thanks Paul and Caleb. Being a old and former GM tech you two are keeping my mind very active with your channel. Also appreciated the Dodge Dakota vlog and the diagram you did at the end of that vlog...
I have power and ground to the module and ground from the module to the blower motor but no power to the motor. Also when I add ground and power to the motor it doesn’t run. Does that mean it beds both motor and module? Or could the blower motor be being bad cause the module not to provide power?
I have an issue with my blower module. I was told that if the blower module goes bad it can take out the blower motor and vice versa. If the blower motor has too much resistance ( a worn bushing maybe) it can damage the module. One should replace both at the same time, more so if they are original items on an older vehicle.
Getting older is a bitch, we all need readers one day. Thank you Calib!
Paul Danner is an awesome instructor. I've been a member of the Scanner Danner Premium channel since early 2015. You can't beat it!
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Thank you Bill K!
Wow...this is a great video! This guy is very interesting! I usually skip through all the unnecessary blah blah blah, but this guy here makes you want to watch and listen through it all. Great instructor! Best video I've seen yet concenring this subject! And I don't know anything about fixing cars! Lol!! This videos helps! Thanks man!!!😎👍
what a great compliment! thank you so much
Love that you overlayed the "sillyscope" to demonstrate the pulse width modulation, love a good technical demonstration.
I have to complement you on the manner in which you explain the two powers and grounds and one signal wire. With old guys, I use a relay analogy, but I would say your method is way way better. Keep up the great work.
Another great vid Paul!!! I'd like to thank you for helping me troubleshoot a friends crank no start. Your vid on GM fuel pump relay testing was key!! Thank you for the incredible good energy you spread through the universe my friend !!!!!!
Thanks Dave!
Thanks for the video, my issue was on the plug that connects to the blower. Same thing just unpluged and pluged it again and it started working like a champ.
*same type of suv*
I am having dejavú. Pine hollow auto diagnostics had the same video!! good vid paul. we love you. keep up the good work.
Cool man. Tell Ivan I said hello! I don't have time to watch CZcams videos, I don't even watch my own brothers videos.
Wow, Great break down in simple terms, yet covering all the bases! I was able to pop open the cover and simply unplug ad plug the connector with key off, key on and the system works again. going to order a new controller if it ever happens again, will be a 5 minute fix! $21 at Rockauto or 40's locally, not a big worry for now!
Love the superimposed scope over the video, great editing!
Augmented reality! Rare to see this
I love when there's a possibility of circuit board repair. 👍 video.
I'm going to drop by there on of these days when I am up that way. I just like the way you go about teaching this stuff to young and old.
That would be cool man. Thanks!
Well no fancy gadgets, but seeing you plug that back in and bam working.. so first I found I had power at red and purple. Then I unplugged each one and bam working.. plug at the blower is bad. Blowing cold!!! Thanks , but keep us dummies in mind with only simple gadgets. Great video i learned something about the functions and the fancy tool did a good job showing the pulse from that little wire.
Great stuff Paul. I need reminders in electrical theory and these videos are doing just that.
Very good instructional video, Paul. Well done by you and Caleb.
Good morning Paul. That GMC is a diagnosis techs dream/nightmare. Always happy to see a vid from you. Cheers mate.
For sure!
great detailed video that help me determine what was actually whats wrong with my vehicle, thx
Paul, thanks a lot for what you and Caleb are doing! I'm not even a mechanic, I'm just an IT guy, who's living overseas and like to repair his own cars, but the foundations and logic you teach are incredibly useful to me!
Hey paul , nice to see you working over top of your $2 scantool to remove module :) Nice vid as usual , very informative, keep um commin
That was a textbook diagnostic you did there. I'm new to the channel but would love to learn the ways of the Jedi. Electrical diagnostic that I could understand means that I could also learn how to do this stuff myself. That would make my family proud.
Thanks Paul and Caleb! Another great vid!
Thanks for the information. A lot to absorb. Good news is I know which part I now need to replace. Blower motor module
Replaced the module/resistor. Exactly what I needed, just watch the $50 at autozone, $30 on amazon. Mine old one had corrosion on the top fins, but at first blower would stop, and come back on with a whack, then wouldn't anymore, but would when connector wiggled a little, but not stay on. Thank you CZcams for helping fix half of my problems.
Come to find out, module wasn't bad, but found wire connector was bad where it connected to fan. New wire bundle is $60at dealership.
@@jeffsummers7242 same here. I cleaned the connector with electronic spray. Now it’s working again. Next time, I’ll replace the entire wire harness like you.
Thanks, Caleb! :)
Also, great video, Paul!
Very detailed and precise description. Awsome explanation. Ty!!
You can tell you are a dam good instructor, thanks
thanks Danner (Paul) you saved me some time and money... keep up the great videos .. Cheers from Canada
Excellent knowledge... thanks. I'm having the same problem on my Denali.
What a great test and diagnostic thanks
Well-done
You could explain the GMC blower issues well , and diagnose the car problem in detail .
TQ Instructor .
Thanks for your videos! I had the same issues with my Avalanche. You saved me $$$$
Same here but I replaced same module still doesn't work. Any suggestions? 08 Avalanche. Thanks.
On my 05 Yukon the wires fried 2 times.
bypassed that resistor you're holding. Eliminated it.
I use the heavier 10 wire and ran it to the battery but decided to connect into that red box under the alternator. Used a 30 amp fuse. I bought a heavy switch mounted on the dash.
Has only one speed.
But I also have the rear heater variable. I've had unusual amount of problems with the actuator doors not opening or closing properly so I in the back I opened a hole through the sidewall and permanently put in a screw to hold the flapper door up in the heat position. Since my AC doesn't work anyway
The wires will "fry" when you have connection issues. Resistance equals heat.
Thank you so much for the great vid! You diagnosed my problem.
Great video gave me a better understanding of what im looking at 👍🏽
Well done cailub. Sorry if wrong spelling. PAUL although this video is a fairly simple diagnosis I enjoyed it your the man. Keep it up
Caleb :-) Thanks man
Beautifully edited and explained, what program do you guys use to edit and over lay the voltages on the screen? 🎥💨
Cyberlink Power Director 15. If I could do it over, I would be using adobe premier. I just don't want to learn another program right now and this one serves it's purpose.
Thanks for another great vid Paul, and great camera work Caleb!
Always good for me to see these vehicles on your channels, since I own a '07 Silverado. One day this part is pretty much guaranteed to fail on all of them.
God knows my truck has had it's share of failures. Latest is monitors that won't run. Might be time for a t-stat replacement ... or something deeper. For now, running with the black "R" on the windshield (inspection stickers in MA: "R" = rejected: Black "R" = emissions, Red "R" = safety).
Frankly I'm tired of spending money just to keep this pile "emissions legal" when it runs just fine. Only 5 more years until it's exempt ... if the engine makes it that long! Bad valvetrain components on these AFM 5.3's ... :(
Great job. Excellent briefing on inputs and outputs. See you later my friend.
NICE LESSON ,GOOD TEACHER !
Wow I definitely came back to watch this and it confirms that I did diagnose my neighbors Yukon correctly..at least in the right direction....the voltage does change(I checked with a multimeter) as I raise and lower the fan speed...so I believe the resistor is bad.....thanks for the great help again!!!! (Blower stays on without key)
Good call on that module. There is no input we need to worry about when the fan module keeps the blower on without an ignition feed. Because everything is powered down. Make sense? Good job on checking your blower module (resistor) inputs though. Thank you!
@@ScannerDanner yes since it stays on....we know that it has all the inputs needed to function? Power,ground,signal etc??
@@nutsandbolts7407 it tells us the driver is shorted with almost certainty
@@ScannerDanner oh ok.. awesome great help as always! Thank Yu for your knowledge....looks like il be changing a module tomorrow!
Ty! This was very well done. Thanks for the info!
Yoo. What's up. Danner that noise you here is actually a mini fan up in the headliner that looks like a mini speaker/microphone . It is a fan that is all clogged with dust great vid danner !!!
someone else said that too. Thank you! I'm sure I'll get to hear about it 20 more times :-)
Such is the world I live in now.
Seriously though, I do appreciate the correction.
great video SD I believe that the blower can also be load shedded on the smart charging system RVC thanks again
Always interesting, professor.
It always great job
Thanks & God bless
Thanks Paul and Caleb
Thanx brother
Great video you just saved me a shit load of money
Great video Paul, regards from Spain =)
Thanks Caleb!
Awesome video 100% accurate and articulate step by step instructions for anybody that's weakness is auto electrical fixed mine in minutes than you Dan!!
Thank you!
BTW my name is Paul Danner 😉
@@ScannerDanner all apologies.. thank you Mr. Danner
All good, I get that a lot
@@ScannerDanner soooo (exact same truck/symptoms as this video) and blower quit AGAIN... new module (per video) & fan spins instantly when bench tested w/ car battery. am i to assume the actual $300 hvac controller is the only thing left??
@@daleaustin1969 not sure if you are still fighting this or not, but I would look at the parts you replaced first. Electronic parts are junk these days
The module was good all fuses was good again it was a resistor on this particular car easy fix.
Great video!!! Thanks for the help!!
Well done. Easily understood.
thank you
awesome video!!!!! loved it... well done
Great information Paul!
Thanks brother
Glad I've just so happen to come across this video very informative and instructional what kind of scanner are u using just in case u already stated it and I missed it
Just done one on a 2002 Chevrolet Impala 3.4 liter, it was a motor resistor, blower motor was good
Good job keep up the great work bro
Great video the impala is ground side switch like that one
Thanks for the video! Case studies are fun.
GM managed to invent a complicated module for a simple job :D
It could be just a single n-channel mosfet transistor, a beefy one, looking at power ground and pwm controll, but I didn't see PWM ground (must be very fast switching), at least the one that could be detected with verus scope.
I don't think the ground was being controlled using a PWM principle , I had my scope set on a 6 mega sample screen and I definitely would have seen the pulses. The climate control module to blower motor control module signal was a PWM signal, but that was it. I misspoke in the video saying the blower itself was being controlled that way. It certainly looked like some type of stepped circuit where resistance was being added and subtracted. Not exactly sure how they were doing it to be honest.
fantastic video
good video helped me out thank you
Nice diagnosis. I refer to that style of resistor module as a 'hedgehog' here in the UK. Bit like a porcupine over there.
Thanks for great video....
Your video is getting more and more interesting,like your meter reading and the waveform showing together while you were explaining,nice.
You are excellent, thank you
Great video 📹
Great video!
very nice video. thanks
nice video mr. paul
Thank you for watching!
Thank you. 👍👍 You ware helpful
thank you sir
Excellent. Diagnostic. Master. My. Respect. For. Yuo. I have. Question a technician. For. Yuo
What's your question my friend?
Nose hair as an indicator .... nice. Great vid bro .
Wow. Tapped it real hard and it came back on.
you are awesome to learn from and very funny
Great video as always Mr. Scannerdanner! Please keep 'em coming! Big thank you! Poland loves you! :)
Top notch vid. Was wondering if you are going to autopsy the module at some time?
Great design graphics
I know what happens, just figured it out with all of them, the blower motor shaft gets rusty and causes the bearing to rust and shaft then puts a lot of pressure on the motor and causes the resistor to burn out or just shut down the motor completely, I just fixed it by adding a little bit of 20 weight oil to the shop to turn the remove the blower and turn the blower upside down with a squirrel cage is facing down for a little bit of oil in there at a time and keep spinning it and spin until it comes free and all fixed, so there isn't a sealed bearing in there and the condensing from the air conditioner causes moisture and rust everything up.
Have any video's on testing a traditional divider resistor? I've got one where the blower motor was already replaced by someone else, the fan works intermittently ( will cut out after a few hours of operation ) and there is a 200 - 300 ma parasitic draw on the A/C circuit...
Sorry Paul, I was confused, meant to say if it has power and ground, module/resister is probably bad, which is a very common issue on the GM fleet where fan speed is not working on all settings.
Thks buddy!!
Paul,I’ve been learning a lot from you! Thank you.
THANK YOU SO MUCH...
My wife's 02 T&C had a low fan then no fan so I pulled the resistor or module and with a VOM
I measured to see if there was an open or short. Back history, I had this happen on my T&C and so I know there are four pins that should have resistance reading on them. My wife's van had 2 pins with no resistance at all. So module or resistor is bad. But this was a deja vu so I knew where the Easter eggs were hidden. Now that I saw this I going to take that dew hickey apart and sea if I can see what you kneaded readers four4. Just kidding, gonna use a magnifying glass eye use readers two2. Great video professor and thanks.
Any idea why on a suburban manual rear ac blower, there is power to the blower, new resister, but when plugged in to the motor/load the power drops to zero?
Hey Dan I'm sure uv found out by now that the little thing in the headliner is not a mini speaker at all, but it is a little tiny squirrel-cage motor that draws ambient air into the cage which surrounds a little thermostat type sensor. Its part of the auto climate control system
I have, thank you! Oh and my name is Paul Danner, thanks!
Nice one buddy , I almost wish you didn't unplug it - caused too many variables in my head. LOL Awesome camera work .
Why? It's a circuit board that gets stressed by a lot of heat. Nothing wrong with the connector and it would not have continued to work indefinitely. If I had time, better eyes and a magnifying glass, I bet I could have visually shown the failure on that board. Thanks Steve!
Hi Paul. Just revisiting this PWM control. By the hvac control head pulling the signal to ground (higher duty % to ground = higher speed signal request / lower duty % to ground = lower speed signal request), does this mean the blower speed controller (near the blower) is the one who supplies the signal voltage to the hvac control head. Then it's the hvac control head job to pulse that voltage to ground and on the other end, the blower speed controller interpretation of that pulse width/duty % is the requested speed? Then the blower speed controller output pulses the blower ground circuit to ground to vary the blower speed? Thank you. Bless you and your family.
Great video, easy to follow. I was able to replace mine in about 20 minutes. Except it didn’t fix my problem but I did notice that there was some blue stuff running out around the old one.
Is there something else I need to do or could be another issue I don’t have a blower for heat or cool. Thanks so much
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blue stuff as in corrosion on the terminals?
Just started watching the video but my question is the rear passenger ac control switch. Not the front ceiling control for the rear. There is a little screen that has the ac and radio control buttons that the rear passengers can use. But my rear fan won't turn on. It was working one day and cut out , but started working again and then by the time I got home it stopped working for good
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I had this problem with an 07 Silverado. When I unplugged the fan connection at the module and plugged back in it worked. Turned out to be the connection at the fan motor. It had heated the plug and deformed it. I replaced the wire to the motor and no more problem.
Understanding that you don't really have the time or financial incentive to do so - but it is really satisfying to actually fix one of those modules. As you pointed out it is likely a cracked solder joint and the symptom pointed you to it likely being the motor ground connector pin. Just take a minute or two and get the big soldering iron (or gun) out and reflow the solder on the pin connections (and everything else nearby) on the pc board, adding a bit of solder to make it flow nice. It's a good feeling when you can save your customer - what? - maybe $100 and if it's your own vehicle, your own money. A feather in your cap too (and maybe future business) if you can tell the customer you saved them the money too.
(Sorry I guess I've spent too many years in the electronics business fixing equipment to component level ) :-) I can understand if your industry has a different outlook.
Good troubleshooting technique Paul. Thanks. I enjoy your videos.
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I'm totally with you Dave but what you didn't see in an edit was I was not prepared to fix this one. My eyesight is not what it used to be and I definitely needed a magnifying glass to even attempt it. Then the only soldering gun I carry with me is a butane one that is not meant for such small soldering.
Thanks for watching! Next time maybe, I'll be able to do the component level fix. I wish I could have too
No Problem Paul. It wasn't meant to be a negative comment. More meant to let others know that there is a possible further step that can add great satisfaction if successful. Especially when it's your own piece of equipment and money your saving.
My home furnace quit a few years ago and through a similar process I traced the problem to a cracked solder joint on the controller circuit board. Seems they thought it was a good idea to solder a heavy transformer onto the circuit board in a furnace that is continuously vibrating. Soldered it up and away it went. The alternative was to try to find an obsolete replacement controller or a new furnace for a few thousand bucks. Made me feel good to fix the whole problem.
Thanks Paul. Keep up the good work.
I didn't take it as negative at all Dave. Thanks for the comment! I agreed with it
How do I know if it’s the switch located up roof or fan actuator in the rear???