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  • Skip Bayless, Michael Irvin and Keyshawn Johnson react to Tom Brady Sr.’s comments on former New England Patriots HC Bill Belichick. The Undisputed cast also react to teams passing on hiring Belichick including the Atlanta Falcons, Seattle Seahawks, Washington Commanders and Los Angeles Chargers.
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  • @UndisputedOnFS1
    @UndisputedOnFS1  Před 3 měsíci +22

    Watch The Joel Klatt Show now: bit.ly/JoelKlattShow

    • @courtneymiller2680
      @courtneymiller2680 Před 3 měsíci +2

      🤔💭Skip is the goat The way he breaks it down with the bigger picture He doesn't fall for the smoke screen😳😳😳😳 And it's a lot of smoke screening out there😂😂💦

    • @courtneymiller2680
      @courtneymiller2680 Před 3 měsíci +1

      🤔💭Tom brady taking the Bucs to the super bowl Is epic I don't think people realize what he did😇😇😇

    • @TonyWilliams-ee7md
      @TonyWilliams-ee7md Před 3 měsíci +1

      Tom is not only the goat , but his humility, discipline along with his acknowledgement of the people that helped him along the way is first class.

    • @suaveguapele3247
      @suaveguapele3247 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Horrible show.

    • @Jim-kz4zo
      @Jim-kz4zo Před 3 měsíci

      He would have had 2 if AB didn't freak out

  • @ethansancti2864
    @ethansancti2864 Před 3 měsíci +747

    Tom winning a superbowl in his first year with Tampa practically ended Bill's career.

    • @RickyGuttasouffCollins
      @RickyGuttasouffCollins Před 3 měsíci +21

      And Bill still got more rings

    • @Alfredojr94
      @Alfredojr94 Před 3 měsíci +78

      @@RickyGuttasouffCollinsbecause of Tom Brady

    • @curtsiekert
      @curtsiekert Před 3 měsíci +82

      Stop it. He walked into a loaded team. And beyond that, all the greatness of Belichick was fully installed into Brady. Belichick's greatness went into Tampa Bay with Brady.

    • @ridoxxx_0030
      @ridoxxx_0030 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Alfredojr94🤣🤡🫵🏼 “because of Tom Brady” take his damn meat out your mouth already it’s cringe asf😭

    • @JMichael-xc7uu
      @JMichael-xc7uu Před 3 měsíci +10

      Its not over for Belichick but he needs to shut down naysayers by getting deep into the playoffs minus Brady

  • @dreyeezy8671
    @dreyeezy8671 Před 3 měsíci +40

    Keyshawn saying every coach has had a losing season.
    Mike Tomlin: 👀

  • @theblinkerx
    @theblinkerx Před 3 měsíci +390

    Media fans & even the parents of players are now starting to play with Belichicks name. They waited 20 years for this moment

    • @spiritualwolf55
      @spiritualwolf55 Před 3 měsíci +61

      I mean bradys dad has always felt this way about belicheck tho.

    • @arkhamknight6371
      @arkhamknight6371 Před 3 měsíci +9

      And the owners,left them out

    • @SlickShots209
      @SlickShots209 Před 3 měsíci +7

      They waited for Brady to be gone that’s all

    • @stephanea5364
      @stephanea5364 Před 3 měsíci +40

      Brady Sr always said this way before and he predicted Bill would be awful without Brady and he was right

    • @alexbaeza9602
      @alexbaeza9602 Před 3 měsíci +18

      Brady SR is looking out for his son, everybody else wilding though lol

  • @stevenreynolds8393
    @stevenreynolds8393 Před 3 měsíci +203

    Bill didn't get hired because every time they asked him a question he answered: "We're on to Cincinnati"

    • @CPSlayer
      @CPSlayer Před 3 měsíci +4

      That's funny

    • @satpat555
      @satpat555 Před 3 měsíci +1

      😂😂😂

    • @macmoney2043
      @macmoney2043 Před 3 měsíci +2

      As he should.drama is only good for the media .not for the players

    • @rodrigocampo9014
      @rodrigocampo9014 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@macmoney2043nobody is asking for drama, just answer the questions.... 🤷

    • @macmoney2043
      @macmoney2043 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@rodrigocampo9014 May be it's above ur pay grade to analyze why he doesnt answer .Team gets spanked by the chiefs 41-14 on monday night ,with brady as the QB and the media asks him bonehead questions and you expect him to dance to their tune?! He Prefers to let his team speak by what it does on the field .And he proceeds to prepare ,game plan and let his squad manhandle cincinnati the next week.Can you see the big picture?!

  • @Nominal405
    @Nominal405 Před 3 měsíci +102

    Brady Sr been popping ish for about 10 years. Love it 😂

    • @patriot459
      @patriot459 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Standing on business

    • @Nominal405
      @Nominal405 Před 3 měsíci

      @@patriot459 that's truly the def of it too. Gotta respect it

    • @Captainaceguy00
      @Captainaceguy00 Před 2 měsíci +1

      His diss of bill was poetry

  • @reggieknight2947
    @reggieknight2947 Před 3 měsíci +90

    We have allowed the media to water down football analytics to the point where QBs get all the credit and the rest of the team was just along for the ride

    • @michaelcooke8989
      @michaelcooke8989 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Right on

    • @tracyjohnson3394
      @tracyjohnson3394 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Good observation.

    • @user-yv1pk4wg3s
      @user-yv1pk4wg3s Před 3 měsíci +5

      Except for Brock Purdy, it was everyone else.

    • @Flexican510
      @Flexican510 Před 3 měsíci

      @@user-yv1pk4wg3sfacts

    • @davidrobinson3154
      @davidrobinson3154 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@user-yv1pk4wg3s Because the team was on this trajectory with Jimmy G, and Tannehill syndrome is still fresh in everyone's mind.

  • @mrmr5580
    @mrmr5580 Před 3 měsíci +56

    In the locker room ive got a feeling Brady was to Belichick, what Duncan was to Popovic both Brady and Duncan were their respective coaches perfect soldier

    • @Maximo734
      @Maximo734 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Well said. Bill and greg did not even win a single title without TB12 and TD21

    • @faalvey7559
      @faalvey7559 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ⁠​⁠@@Maximo734 TD21 🤣😭🤣

    • @Rex93241
      @Rex93241 Před 3 měsíci +1

      This. It is what I have said for awhile. You need your best player to buy in and be the standard. If your best player will follow, the team will. NE had NO ONE after Tom left. Bill lost his leverage. Tom needed hard coaching, and Bill needed a loyal foot soldier, that’s why they won so much.

  • @PeterJustGames
    @PeterJustGames Před 3 měsíci +53

    Belichick is 35-45 before Brady and 28-39 after Brady. Wow...

    • @KrishnaSingh-ow1ie
      @KrishnaSingh-ow1ie Před 3 měsíci +8

      Exactly, and he git fired from both teams before tom brady and after tom brady.

    • @jimfry2748
      @jimfry2748 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Bills D won 3 of those 6 SB,s

    • @williamrose7818
      @williamrose7818 Před 3 měsíci

      Like wo

    • @williamrose7818
      @williamrose7818 Před 3 měsíci +2

      So you’re saying, they technically lost 9? 😀

    • @KrishnaSingh-ow1ie
      @KrishnaSingh-ow1ie Před 3 měsíci +3

      @jimfry2748 what are you talking about it was Tom brady who score a touchdown at end in everysuperbowl win. All those suoerbowls were so close. They won by 3 points or a tou down. All those superbowls wA never a blowout.

  • @Simouno
    @Simouno Před 3 měsíci +86

    It's like Stallone said in the first Creed movie: "Time beat him. Time, you know, takes everybody out. It's undefeated."

    • @PasseBlanc
      @PasseBlanc Před 3 měsíci +11

      And sadly, this is was said before we knew Carl Weathers died. RIP.
      Great quote

    • @user-mx8dq2ix9d
      @user-mx8dq2ix9d Před 3 měsíci +2

      RIP Apollo my Oakland playa patna

    • @THEYCANTSTOPME
      @THEYCANTSTOPME Před 3 měsíci

      Time takes our bodies out but our consciousness goes on and on baby

  • @jeffcaptain6738
    @jeffcaptain6738 Před 3 měsíci +45

    I still want an explanation for not playing Butler and hence losing Super Bowl.

    • @xoltarr424
      @xoltarr424 Před 3 měsíci +15

      I think not playing Butler was an example of Bill letting his ego getting the best of him. It's one of those moments in which Bill tried to stress that it was his team. It cost them against the Eagles.

    • @vVvDepredation
      @vVvDepredation Před 3 měsíci +6

      That was the day I said ohhh ok he’s not a great coach he just had amazing players that parcels drafted by and large. Give up 500
      Yards to Nick foles and keeping butler on the bench is inexcusable

    • @user-lt1fx2he5s
      @user-lt1fx2he5s Před 3 měsíci +4

      Didn’t Tom Brady have the football last? And what did he do fumbled it

    • @jeffcaptain6738
      @jeffcaptain6738 Před 3 měsíci

      @@xoltarr424 bingo!

    • @jeffcaptain6738
      @jeffcaptain6738 Před 3 měsíci

      @@vVvDepredation Agreed!

  • @williamf5745
    @williamf5745 Před 3 měsíci +32

    A member of the Patriots said this about Bill Belichick and Tom Brady: "We work for Bill, but we play for Tom."
    I think that is a very distinct and important difference.

  • @teeeeeeeeezy
    @teeeeeeeeezy Před 3 měsíci +17

    Never thought I’d say this but I 100% agree with Skip. Hands down the best argument he’s EVER made

  • @mjacksonjones
    @mjacksonjones Před 3 měsíci +24

    Michael is right about how you work and talk with today's players. I see it with my kid and others his age (11+). There are times I'm too hard and I have to pull back, (sometimes apologize), be more understanding, focus on MUCH smaller wins and just be happy with the progress of progress. And then come back another day.
    This is not just with sports, but everything.

    • @jamaaldaynitelong8367
      @jamaaldaynitelong8367 Před 3 měsíci +4

      They're not built like us BUT I don't think that's a bad thing either.

    • @wc2195
      @wc2195 Před 3 měsíci

      @@jamaaldaynitelong8367It’s not. Sometimes we forget there are multiple pathways to a solution for a problem.

    • @MrGrace
      @MrGrace Před 3 měsíci +1

      Agreed. But I wonder if they have enough....mettle to withstand the hardships of life. I don't want to call them "soft" but I have my doubts...

    • @spectralnighttravel
      @spectralnighttravel Před 3 měsíci +1

      Well think of how our generation was raised. There were mental health problems all over the place, depression, ptsd, alcoholism, drug abuse, but no one ever talked about it. It was considered soft and taboo to talk about those things. My grandfather never got over ptsd, and he drank himself to death. Yeah he died a hardass who never opened up, but he died needlessly years before he had to. Our old way wasn't necessarily better.

  • @JamaalMills
    @JamaalMills Před 3 měsíci +54

    I can see bill coaching pop warner taking it out on the other teams😂😂

  • @clifforddriver9434
    @clifforddriver9434 Před 3 měsíci +202

    The father is absolutely correct.

    • @ridoxxx_0030
      @ridoxxx_0030 Před 3 měsíci

      But he’s wrong. Last year of Tom Brady with the patriots he had the number one defense and got bounced in the wild card then had to go to a super team until he wore them out and they started doing worse until he had a losing season and got blown out in the wild card by Dallas. He’s NOT right, he just forgets to add the context cause of his obvious bias. Y’all are embarrassing asf this is hilarious😂🤡and y’all call yourselves nfl fans. Keep riding that man’s meat, it’s people like you that do a huge disservice to the damn game. Shameful

    • @sojmike4761
      @sojmike4761 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Yep

    • @LittleGronk-yv2tf
      @LittleGronk-yv2tf Před 3 měsíci +1

      Bernie Kosar, Vinny Testaverde, Drew Bledsoe and all The QB's he drafted or sighed. Failure with all of them.

    • @sojmike4761
      @sojmike4761 Před 3 měsíci

      @@LittleGronk-yv2tf all three of those QBs weren't that bad imo. Bernie had a few good years

    • @jamesguest4741
      @jamesguest4741 Před 3 měsíci

      Their lose!

  • @vitosmith8195
    @vitosmith8195 Před 3 měsíci +22

    Here we go again Keyshaun defending Bill ...again....showing why he's on Bill's payroll....😂

    • @KrishnaSingh-ow1ie
      @KrishnaSingh-ow1ie Před 3 měsíci +2

      Keyshawn making himself look stupid defending Bill bilicheat. Everthing skip said is 100 true. You can't denied it.

    • @sexmetalbarbie8892
      @sexmetalbarbie8892 Před 3 měsíci

      He's straight house all the way

    • @bladesmith930
      @bladesmith930 Před 3 měsíci

      big Cape..

  • @skii4eva74
    @skii4eva74 Před 3 měsíci +6

    They act like Tom didn’t leave and win the superbowl in his first year with another team btw during a pandemic

  • @derrrick7759
    @derrrick7759 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Tom Brady was the Patriot Way.

  • @alexhampton8695
    @alexhampton8695 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Skip and Tom Sr are absolutely right.

  • @Blessed2bhere34
    @Blessed2bhere34 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Coaching is a tough job my dad was a coach for majority of my life but you have to be a father, a friend, and a coach. Nothing last forever but how you treat ppl is a lasting impression on your legacy.

  • @Falloutx360a
    @Falloutx360a Před 3 měsíci +60

    I still think age is his biggest issue getting hired. If he had the same success and reputation, but was 10 years younger, teams jump to get him.

    • @mattcarberry368
      @mattcarberry368 Před 3 měsíci +20

      no it's 100% his recent track record...... if he was 72 and still building Championship systems/cultures, then his age wouldn't even be mentioned........ it's the fact that he's out of touch and stubborn... it's 2024 and he STILL values special teams gunners more than explosive offensive talents, the only All-Pro talents he's identified in over a decade is a kicker and punter..... in 11 career seasons a HC without Brady, he's sub-500, has zero division titles, and one ever playoff game win....... it's that people realized he's simply not good anymore

    • @stephanea5364
      @stephanea5364 Před 3 měsíci

      Spot on@@mattcarberry368

    • @kevinnguyen4814
      @kevinnguyen4814 Před 3 měsíci +4

      theyre taking into account his recent actions and success, wanting to drop brady so early, then actually dropping brady, drafting nkeal, and drafting mac, hiring and vouching for these horrible OC’s, all the players and players parents trashing his style, all the players who respected bill, are all on the way out of the league, these modern day athletes dont like being drilled by their coaches anymore, the games changed and it isnt helping bill sadly

    • @isthatdave55
      @isthatdave55 Před 3 měsíci

      nah its age. Bill runs a system and it seems like the system runs well when Bill and Vrabel run it. In Bill's case its how long can he run it, and in Mikes he's a dictator and teams are moving away from that style coach

    • @ShawnGilbert1967
      @ShawnGilbert1967 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Tom being forced out ( Craft admits this) and then winning a superbowl the next year...while Bill's stats without Tom simply make it undeniable....Tom MADE him....

  • @trevorwinn5012
    @trevorwinn5012 Před 3 měsíci +39

    Same with Andy Reid , in Philly great coach but play off choker , give him an all world QB and now he's built a dynasty , 4 super bowl appearances in 5 years , might get 3rd ring in 5 years

    • @shadowrksstudiosandenterta4520
      @shadowrksstudiosandenterta4520 Před 3 měsíci +29

      Not the same bill has no success outside of Tom Brady Andy had gone to the playoff and championships with other players outside of Patrick mahomes

    • @JohnSmith-nj4zq
      @JohnSmith-nj4zq Před 3 měsíci +19

      Reid was a much better coach than Belichick. Belichick is nothing without Brady. Reid was great with any QB he had.

    • @NewEnglandPatriotsDynasty
      @NewEnglandPatriotsDynasty Před 3 měsíci +21

      Andy Reid already had a super bowl appearance and five NFC championship trips before he had Mahomes. He won a wild card game with the Chiefs with Alex Smith in 2015. Reid has a winning record without Patrick. Meanwhile, Bill has one playoff win in 11 seasons without Brady. Tom won four rings without Gronk and one ring without Belichick. What has Mahomes won without Kelce and Reid?

    • @poundtrader1414
      @poundtrader1414 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@NewEnglandPatriotsDynasty but you have to have a good QB, andy had some solid QB's

    • @dustinray9011
      @dustinray9011 Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@NewEnglandPatriotsDynastyMcnabb and Alex smith are wayyyyyy better than max jones stop it

  • @sugarbear1225
    @sugarbear1225 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Key goes off on these rants that leads to nowhere 🤯Michael Irvin needs to talk more.

  • @boss55590
    @boss55590 Před 3 měsíci +12

    Gisele said the same thing about Tom Jr. Lol

    • @Brascobadboy
      @Brascobadboy Před 3 měsíci

      Fcuk her she ruined Toms exit. Filing divorce. Running around dating jiu jitsu coaches

  • @stealingfire1991
    @stealingfire1991 Před 3 měsíci +6

    I think people buy too much into the narrative that Belichick was more responsible for the Patriots' success in Brady's early years, and that Brady became the more important party as time went on. In Brady's 2nd through 6th years as a starter, he finished 1st ,10th, 6th, 3rd, and 4th in the league in TD passes. Then he got Randy Moss and threw 50. He was basically a top starting QB statistically right from the get, it's just that no one was putting up the gaudy QB numbers people do today, so it appears like he was some kind of game manager when that wasn't the case. He put up good numbers and won 3 super bowls in 4 years. From basically any perspective he was an elite NFL QB right away. I'm not saying Belichick wasn't important to the Pats' success in those early years, I just think people discount the importance of Brady's contribution by a ton.

    • @leonrodriguez1714
      @leonrodriguez1714 Před 3 měsíci

      What u mean? ppl are giving brady all the credit . They dint want to give bill any credit . Brady couldnt do all that without a defense

  • @remywinans1575
    @remywinans1575 Před 3 měsíci +5

    I have said for the last 20 years that it was brady not belichick...looks like I was right

  • @kylestewart8317
    @kylestewart8317 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Michael Irvin is the best one on this show

  • @We90909
    @We90909 Před 3 měsíci +25

    I wouldn't want to coach any of those teams anyways 😅😅 .

    • @mattcarberry368
      @mattcarberry368 Před 3 měsíci +5

      that's what everyone thought about the Patriots by the time Bill was done building his "vision" there without Tom Brady

    • @isthatdave55
      @isthatdave55 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@mattcarberry368ah thats why that new coach has been indoctrinated in Bill's system as a player and coach huh? They must hate Bill so much. Yk how we move on from Bill, by hiring his understudy yeah.

    • @geraldryan4339
      @geraldryan4339 Před 3 měsíci +2

      But he did. Lol.

  • @eddiecardwell
    @eddiecardwell Před 3 měsíci +5

    I mean you have to think before Tom became THE guy, Bill was never looked at as some visionary coach. I think what you got was a Coach who instilled a certain type of old school discipline and he got the dream student in Brady.

  • @c_n_h_zoe9514
    @c_n_h_zoe9514 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Alot of players didnt like playing for bill and still don’t

  • @muffnxman
    @muffnxman Před 3 měsíci +2

    Good listening when all of them have a valid point and argument against the other

  • @grooveeguy
    @grooveeguy Před 3 měsíci +88

    Keyshawn's kids are never at fault? Uh oh... that's interesting parenting.

    • @Acradus
      @Acradus Před 3 měsíci +27

      You know he means “generally”
      Nobody is gonna publically blame their child in public even if they know their son was wrong.

    • @JacksonArea
      @JacksonArea Před 3 měsíci +7

      My mama always said what's wrong is wrong and what's right is right...

    • @dillonkirk9868
      @dillonkirk9868 Před 3 měsíci +25

      @@JacksonArea Mama says alligators are so ornery cuz they got all those teeth and no toothbrush

    • @stevengrvp
      @stevengrvp Před 3 měsíci +16

      You know what keyshawn is saying correct in private. Not bashing in public

    • @JacksonArea
      @JacksonArea Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@dillonkirk9868 😂😂😂🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @_will795
    @_will795 Před 3 měsíci +7

    The lakers need a defensive coach.. bring him in

  • @jaysonterry4746
    @jaysonterry4746 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Johnson trying to give McDaniels credit for calling plays lmao this guys a fool

  • @playboy4life18
    @playboy4life18 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Michael and Keyshawn funny ASF!!!!! "Did I ask you"... "I'm sorry, I'm sorry"...😂😂😂😂

  • @michaelbrand2050
    @michaelbrand2050 Před 3 měsíci +4

    For years there were rumors about how badly Belichick treated Brady. Brady was said to have taken the abuse by Belichick and then ran the offense the best he could. Brady was the middle man between Belichick and the rest of the offense. Once Brady left, there wasn't anyone there to absorb the abuse and the team pretty much fell apart.
    I won't say that Belichick wasn't a great coach, you don't go that many years with success without having some sort of genius. I think Brady did way more than people think when it came to Belichick and the rest of the team.

  • @justthings6405
    @justthings6405 Před 3 měsíci +10

    Keyshawn--He was on a yacht when he interviewed with Atlanta the 2nd time so it wasn't a quiet interview. Face it, no one wants him after the last 3 seasons of not having Brady to prop him up.

    • @jimfry2748
      @jimfry2748 Před 3 měsíci

      Lol it was BILLS D that won 3 of those 6 SB,s

    • @stephanea5364
      @stephanea5364 Před 3 měsíci

      So he should be able to win without Brady, then, but only has one playoff win without him LOL What his defense doing? LOL@@jimfry2748

  • @Vallejo94591
    @Vallejo94591 Před 3 měsíci +2

    My great aunt (Dad's father's sister) that my Dad was really close with until she passed away knew the Bradys since Tommy was a little kid. They went to church together regularly at St. Gregory's on Haciena in San Mateo. It's funny how Tommy Sr. said that because my Dad said the same exact thing about BB when Brady went to Tampa. I personally think he's just a disgruntled old man thinking he's entitled to everything because he has those 6 SBs even though without the GOAT he has a hard time even making the postseason. He can't relate to the players at all and that is a problem especially in a social league where leadership is key.

  • @olmanaguirre2390
    @olmanaguirre2390 Před 3 měsíci +15

    So now they need each other, but for years the tale was that Belichick could get a championship with any QB, that Brady only won because of Belichick greatness

    • @JMichael-xc7uu
      @JMichael-xc7uu Před 3 měsíci +5

      Obviously that assumption was proven wrong

    • @vVvDepredation
      @vVvDepredation Před 3 měsíci

      System quarterback 😂

    • @jamyljamerson6421
      @jamyljamerson6421 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yep lol..had friends all but say BB was throwing the ball for Tom😅😅

    • @eastgate6134
      @eastgate6134 Před 3 měsíci

      I don't think Brady make that type 0f run with Bruce Arians tho. They needed each other

  • @hereitisagain4880
    @hereitisagain4880 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Belichick has whipped the other teams for 20 years. I think he is not on their Christmas lists never mind going to hire him. Grudges have a long life.

    • @hokeywolf3416
      @hokeywolf3416 Před 2 měsíci

      Really only with Brady. Without Brady, Bill was kind enough to lose to them.

  • @tajislalah6110
    @tajislalah6110 Před 3 měsíci +33

    Bill was a losing coach before Brady and a losing coach after Brady. Buh bye Bill

    • @mike7984
      @mike7984 Před 3 měsíci +4

      The head coach who made Brady a thing you mean? Lol Brady wouldn’t even be known without bill…. Sorry

    • @_WF23
      @_WF23 Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@mike7984Bill just happened to be the one to draft him. Brady would’ve been successful no matter where he went.

    • @stephanea5364
      @stephanea5364 Před 3 měsíci

      Still losing coach before and after Brady, deal with the facts.@@mike7984

    • @habavdekar
      @habavdekar Před 3 měsíci

      You literally heard nothing that Michael Irvin and Keyshawn said. All coaches need good-great players just like all players need good-great coaches. Jared Goff was struggling under Jeff Fisher and thrived in the Sean McVay offense. Belichick decimated that McVay Offense.

    • @stephanea5364
      @stephanea5364 Před 3 měsíci +2

      But all Belichick needed was cogs, that's all I heard all these years, and he could win with any QB LOL@@habavdekar

  • @amirharris473
    @amirharris473 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Out of all the coaching changes that are made only one will workout, it always happens like that. The best coach selection made in the last year was Demeco Ryans

  • @santiniperico8627
    @santiniperico8627 Před 3 měsíci +65

    Belichick's ego got obliterated, karma is undefeated.

    • @Himothy704
      @Himothy704 Před 3 měsíci

      Karma doesn't exist 😂

    • @qualicumjack3906
      @qualicumjack3906 Před 3 měsíci +2

      If Bill has bad karma, why does he have the most Super Bowls of any coach?

    • @Zahok1
      @Zahok1 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@qualicumjack3906cause people are idiots. Recency bias and lack of common sense.

    • @williamrose7818
      @williamrose7818 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Tom Brady

    • @brentinnes5151
      @brentinnes5151 Před 3 měsíci

      Karma up 27 zip with1 minute to go and Karma got ball, first and goal with all its timeouts

  • @RonJP-pm7jp
    @RonJP-pm7jp Před 3 měsíci +4

    I’m with Skip it was Tom Brady and bill was a role player.

  • @josephlindsey5210
    @josephlindsey5210 Před 3 měsíci +15

    It’s never too late. Someone will be fired next season somewhere in the middle of the year

    • @dayshawnbryant8778
      @dayshawnbryant8778 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Bill Belichick should go to the Arizona Cardinals and be a Head coach Belichick with Kyler Murray the Cardinals just might possibly become a playoff team again would yall agree?

    • @TheKnightofAwesomeness
      @TheKnightofAwesomeness Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@dayshawnbryant8778I could see that

    • @batmoebiel
      @batmoebiel Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@dayshawnbryant8778he wouldn't coach that mental midget

    • @josephlindsey5210
      @josephlindsey5210 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@dayshawnbryant8778 kyler needs him according to his video game love lol

    • @isthatdave55
      @isthatdave55 Před 3 měsíci

      Bill to the Jags?

  • @PALMERUSA21
    @PALMERUSA21 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Well Bill Belichick did coach alongside his father at West Point. It don’t get more Militaristic then West Point.

  • @dabuster55
    @dabuster55 Před 3 měsíci +2

    These guys chemistry is getting a lot better cause this show has been rough to watch.. but its getting there

  • @gregoryphillips3969
    @gregoryphillips3969 Před 3 měsíci +13

    Joe Gibbs the great Redskin coach won 3 Super Bowls with 3 different quarterbacks. Doug Williams, Mark Rypien and Joe Theisman all won Super Bowls under Gibbs. Belichick only won with Brady and has been below average without Brady. The record speaks for itself.

    • @brentinnes5151
      @brentinnes5151 Před 3 měsíci

      great point...and what about Parcells with the Hostettler who was a backup...the list goes on..grumpy old old greedy man has destroyed his legacy...just imagine if he retired even 2 years ago

    • @gregoryphillips3969
      @gregoryphillips3969 Před 3 měsíci

      Absolutely correct sir, THANK YOU.@@brentinnes5151

  • @REAlMIDOFFICIAL
    @REAlMIDOFFICIAL Před 3 měsíci +44

    Looks like Belichick won't get mailed a check😂😂😂

  • @stevenmcknight8429
    @stevenmcknight8429 Před 3 měsíci +1

    You guys "rock" awesome analysis and discussion!

  • @user-ig3yg1mz1n
    @user-ig3yg1mz1n Před 3 měsíci +1

    16 min key aand irvin had me dyinggg

  • @gbg2003
    @gbg2003 Před 3 měsíci +16

    I like how Keyshawn wants to make sure IF isn't picking on Bill Belichek, a 72 year old man considered the GOAT by many, but he takes every shot at he can at a 2nd year 24 yo QB, Brock Purdy.

    • @Flexican510
      @Flexican510 Před 3 měsíci +2

      I’m right there with you on that one he moves the goalpost as if he works on the field

  • @HardCold-Alquan
    @HardCold-Alquan Před 3 měsíci +6

    Keyshawn must moonlight as Bill's publicist.

  • @georgealvarez1195
    @georgealvarez1195 Před 3 měsíci +38

    Modern day athletes dont want a coach. They want a friend simple as that

    • @Unknown17
      @Unknown17 Před 3 měsíci +13

      That's why "modern day" athletes are weak, pampered and selfish, and the game itself has lost much of its luster.

    • @clifforddriver9434
      @clifforddriver9434 Před 3 měsíci

      This particular quarterback needed a bigger role, nuff said.

    • @chanellesmith1856
      @chanellesmith1856 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Irvin is right. The majority of the league is full of millennials and gen z. These kids don't play that dictatorship style of coaching from back in the day and they will NOT let you talk them any kind of way. You can't get away with barking orders at these new generation players. New era, new day, on to the next

    • @ChickasawMal28_
      @ChickasawMal28_ Před 3 měsíci

      Exactly! I'd love to have coach belichek as my coach especially when I was in highschool

    • @sae01
      @sae01 Před 3 měsíci

      @@chanellesmith1856it’s cause there’s a lot more player control when it comes to contracts and things like that. not just in the nfl, but across all the major sports leagues. players leverage a lot more now than before. now you have players manage loading in the nba until they put in the mandatory 65

  • @sinceremaverick7081
    @sinceremaverick7081 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Belichek literally coached the greatest defensive & offensive players in history. LT & Brady 🏈

  • @PhoenixDawnX77
    @PhoenixDawnX77 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Plus, you probably have him for a max of 4 years. If he messes up your draft, he can mess your team up for 6 years or more. He should've just tried coming in as a coach....JUST A COACH. Let someone else be GM. Be happy to keep your son on that nepotism tract.

  • @pete6705
    @pete6705 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Bill has made many roster and draft decisions his whole career that didn’t make any sense. But no one could argue with him because of his record. But after letting Brady walk away, all his bad decisions had terrible consequences and the team went right down the toilet. I sometimes think about how if Bill was better at drafting and finding offensive players, Brady could have been even better. He hit on Gronk, but Edleman was pretty much the only good WR he ever drafted, and he was drafted in the 7th as a QB. Brady only got to play with Moss for 2 seasons, if he had a top 10 or 20 WR to play with for a 5+ year stretch his numbers would have been even crazier

  • @davidmeyer6500
    @davidmeyer6500 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Belichick will never go small market. He has too many demands. Not a good fit for any of these teams this season.

  • @tracyjohnson3394
    @tracyjohnson3394 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Modern-day athletes respond to authenticity. Michael Irvin would have a job on my team doing 2 things: pre-game motivation, and half-time motivation! He's 100% pure-canine, himself! Certain voices should be heard in the locker room before a game. They speak at frequencies only "Dawgs" can hear! If a guy can combine that with Xs and Os, and collaborative skillz, you might have a HC.

  • @John-gt5tt
    @John-gt5tt Před 3 měsíci +3

    Key has to talk for the first 6 minutes without taking a breath.

  • @NewEnglandPatriotsDynasty
    @NewEnglandPatriotsDynasty Před 3 měsíci +22

    Before anyone crowns Mahomes the greatest ever, Andy Reid already had a super bowl appearance and five NFC championship trips before he had Patrick. He won a wild card game with the Chiefs with Alex Smith in 2015. Reid has a winning record without Patrick. Meanwhile, Bill has one playoff win in 11 seasons without Brady. Tom won four rings without Gronk and one ring without Belichick. What has Mahomes won without Kelce and Reid?

    • @JamesDavis-ei6dv
      @JamesDavis-ei6dv Před 3 měsíci +7

      Throw in the fact that Brady competed against teams led by Hall of Famers Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, etc. Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen are not HOFers.

    • @Soccercrazyigboman
      @Soccercrazyigboman Před 3 měsíci +5

      Right let's forget how good those Patriots defenses were. Brady would not have those rings without those defenses the Pats had. You think Manning could not have had all those rings if he was a Patriot?

    • @Himothy704
      @Himothy704 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@JamesDavis-ei6dv Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson are future hall of famers. You should stop watching football because you don't appreciate it.

    • @Infinitefuture6
      @Infinitefuture6 Před 3 měsíci +9

      Throw in the fact the patriots got caught cheating twice

    • @jab1289
      @jab1289 Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@JamesDavis-ei6dv Also, people forget these other points:
      1. In 2000, the Pats played ten games against teams against teams with a winning record. The defense was 17th in the NFL in points allowed and 20th in yards allowed. Also, Bledsoe had no running game to speak of. The next year, the Pats added Seymour, Matt Light, and several other key players like Antowain Smith (who ran for 1,157 yards), David Patten, Bryan Cox, and Mike Vrabel. They played in only six games against teams with a winning record, and they were sixth in the league in points allowed.
      2. Brady played against tougher playoff competition than Mahomes. However, what the Brady lovers don't bring up is his free pass to the playoffs almost every year in the AFC Least.
      3. I don't see the Pats winning another SB even if Brady stays. That roster was on the decline. Tampa had a stacked roster, and Gronk and AB joined him down there. That's why they won the SB.

  • @kingdee725
    @kingdee725 Před 3 měsíci +1

    SKIP BAYLESS PURE FACTS 💯💯 Bill Belicheck is a good coach

  • @TheCoach517
    @TheCoach517 Před 3 měsíci +1

    "He's just him" quotes the Playmaker 😂😂😂

  • @jesseletourneau1691
    @jesseletourneau1691 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I don’t think any of the points brought up really matter. I think the number one issue is his age. Why would you want to start building a team with Bill only to have him retire?

  • @andrebritten
    @andrebritten Před 3 měsíci +3

    Keyshawn is disingenuous because if Brady went to Tamp and had a losing record and Bill won with Mac Jones, he would say the same thing Skip is saying about Bill

  • @mistakd6328
    @mistakd6328 Před 3 měsíci +2

    They all just interrupting and cutting each other points off smh

  • @andreleverettejr3747
    @andreleverettejr3747 Před 3 měsíci +3

    17:24 Keyshawn Johnson, Mike Tomlin has never had a losing season, your point is null and void

  • @mistasofly
    @mistasofly Před 3 měsíci +57

    Bellichick IS NOT going to come in and save someones franchise. It has been proven time and time again that he's overrated without Brady. His best days are now behind him.

    • @mattcarberry368
      @mattcarberry368 Před 3 měsíci +1

      exatly! if he was capable of saving a franchise.......wouldn't the Patriots be good right now? lol didn't his recent direct handywork result in one of the worst teams in football?
      he literally just lost his job because of his complete inability to create a winning team without Tom Brady, but still people were surprised everyone wasn't kicking down his door to hire him lol takes some people awhile to catch up i guess

    • @mikebyrne9739
      @mikebyrne9739 Před 3 měsíci

      Interpersonal skills. Sounds like a bay area term to me.

    • @benstallone6784
      @benstallone6784 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Belichick miscalculated and thought Brady would hit the wall sooner than he did... he forgot Brady wasn't athletic to begin with (lol) so age would have less effect on his play

    • @happybeingmiserable4668
      @happybeingmiserable4668 Před 3 měsíci

      2001 AFC Championship with Bledsoe says Belichick is not overrated...2022 Brady got blown out by the Cowboys, the next season Baker Mayfield took the same team to 1 more round, showing how overrated Brady is.

    • @JMichael-xc7uu
      @JMichael-xc7uu Před 3 měsíci

      Bill’s arrogance makes it easy to root against him. Its a game Billy lighten the heck up in the scheme of life, its just a game

  • @thomasharris5151
    @thomasharris5151 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Mike Tomlin at the Steelers has not had a losing season in 15 seasons… 👌🏾💎🐰😎

    • @Zahok1
      @Zahok1 Před 3 měsíci +1

      He also hasn’t done anything in damn near 10 of those

    • @hokeywolf3416
      @hokeywolf3416 Před 2 měsíci

      Brady trumps all of that.

  • @alexmigiro4297
    @alexmigiro4297 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Best argument skip has ever made. It was Tom Brady.

  • @GetRealDude
    @GetRealDude Před 3 měsíci +3

    I skipped over Irvin, LOL

  • @gustavolavoz
    @gustavolavoz Před 3 měsíci +6

    Brady > BEB ( Bill Ego Bellichick)

  • @steevosor1704
    @steevosor1704 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Sorry, not sorry Keyshawn, you wrong on this one bro bro

  • @roderickbrown2339
    @roderickbrown2339 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Regular UPS delivery guy from Mississippi met Coach several times during Covid years
    Every time the driver delivered his packages if Coach was outside he help with the packages
    Gave tips to the driver and acknowledged him every time he cross him on the road.
    “Coach See Through The BS”
    All Real Ones Do

  • @jjgreen5206
    @jjgreen5206 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I love that Tom Brady Sr speaks his mind. I know it irritates Tom Jr but he can just deal with it

  • @charlzincharge2281
    @charlzincharge2281 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Keyshawn is more wrong than right on this discussion.

  • @warwickdennis4114
    @warwickdennis4114 Před 3 měsíci +3

    You guys know personality goes a long way and Bill B. Doesn’t have it plus the losing record without Tom speaks volumes.

  • @JohnnyZeroBoo
    @JohnnyZeroBoo Před 3 měsíci +2

    The argument about not having the talent after Tom doesn't fit for me here... Because Belicheck was also the guy making personnel decisions...

  • @maropengmbele5495
    @maropengmbele5495 Před 3 měsíci

    honestly, just for pure commentary on sports; it's probably this show, the nightcap, and first things first, but I really enjoy this format/show. I hope they continue to grow and improve.

  • @TheWhiteRam68
    @TheWhiteRam68 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Michael & Key be kicking the real knowledge on what it takes to Win & what Real Football is!💯

    • @MrGreed2000
      @MrGreed2000 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Alot of people are lamenting the loss of Shannon and while he was a big loss and the show is less funnier the actual sport conversations especially about the NFL are much better. Key is great but i really think the main guy in this show is Michael, he brings the Unc attitude, that old school humor and jokes that have Sherm holding back his laughter. I was worried about the new show but to me it's a great success ratings aside and still remains my favorite way to catch a few sports stories everyday while i have some lunch or dinner.

    • @TheWhiteRam68
      @TheWhiteRam68 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @MrGreedMD I'm with you MrGreedMD!💯

  • @Jlmwb
    @Jlmwb Před 3 měsíci +5

    All I have to say is give those same Patriots teams Marvin Lewis (defensive minded) as a head coach and we’re having a completely different conversation

    • @dustinray9011
      @dustinray9011 Před 3 měsíci

      Bill built those teams tho lol so you saying give another coach bills work 😂 that’s part of what makes bill great.

    • @isthatdave55
      @isthatdave55 Před 3 měsíci

      @@dustinray9011Marvin Lewis and Bill are from the same coaching tree

  • @johnnydaniels1462
    @johnnydaniels1462 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Skip won the debate Keshawn drowning trying to save bill 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Justin-bo4nq
    @Justin-bo4nq Před 3 měsíci +1

    Bill should’ve never made Tom leave, or want to leave, but Tom will also say himself he wouldn’t have wanted to play for any other coach and that he helped him become the player he came to be.

  • @abdelghaniesseddiqui4610
    @abdelghaniesseddiqui4610 Před 3 měsíci +3

    The league really said it was Tom Brady all along.

  • @ekonkante
    @ekonkante Před 3 měsíci +16

    Skip's style of argument is getting tiresome. He always goes over specific games or events over and over every time he debates a player or topic and it wastes large chunks of a segment.

    • @HerbChao14xs
      @HerbChao14xs Před 3 měsíci +1

      What would you like him to debate with instead? Or how to have him present a side? Playing Devil's Advocate.

    • @ShawnGilbert1967
      @ShawnGilbert1967 Před 3 měsíci +1

      He should talk on feels and then do interviews where he, Skip damn near resorted to violence to win Arguments lol

    • @ekonkante
      @ekonkante Před 3 měsíci

      @@HerbChao14xs if you ever heard him defend Tim Tebow you would understand my point. He should just get to his point and expound on that, not give history lessons over and over for decades on the same players

    • @Zahok1
      @Zahok1 Před 3 měsíci

      @@ekonkante how else would we know that baker mayfield won 11 games as a rookie? It was IMPOSSIBLY GREAT. And win the first playoff win in forever for the browns… IMPOSSIBLY GREAT. And how he did commercials….IMPOSSIBLY great

  • @davibe2304
    @davibe2304 Před 3 měsíci +2

    It’s ironic hearing skip talk about ego getting in the way when skip ego got in the back at of Shannon sharpe and he’s been on the bottom since he left much like belichick

  • @standingalone001
    @standingalone001 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Thank God things are different now. Abusers used to have free reign to abuse others. Abuse is still common today but it’s not free rein like it used to be.

  • @JMichael-xc7uu
    @JMichael-xc7uu Před 3 měsíci +4

    So Belichick is 63-84 without Brady? Is that what you said??

  • @4thgoal232
    @4thgoal232 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Who was responsible for building the roster Keyshawn?

  • @t_mosportscards1124
    @t_mosportscards1124 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Cam literally said he’s the 10th best player that’s all they should have spoke on that !?!
    1.CMC
    2.Trent
    3.Bosa
    4.Deebo
    5.Kittle
    6.Aiyuk
    7.Warner
    8.Greenlaw
    9.Ward
    Simple!!!

  • @amandabush4191
    @amandabush4191 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Bill needs a defensive coordinator position
    I thank hes a defense couch

    • @brentinnes5151
      @brentinnes5151 Před 3 měsíci

      too old man..the game has changed..give youth a chance..not greedy grump old men.count your millions and go!

  • @nco2004
    @nco2004 Před 3 měsíci +15

    Mike tomlin makes the playoffs every year with no QB 😂😂

    • @HardCold-Alquan
      @HardCold-Alquan Před 3 měsíci

      And robed haters always call for his job because they hate seeing blaks succeed.

    • @nco2004
      @nco2004 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@HardCold-Alquan Exactly! Imagine if Mike T had Tom Brady

    • @terrydizzydude4087
      @terrydizzydude4087 Před 3 měsíci

      Does the name Roethlisberger ring a bell? He already had a Super Bowl under his belt before Tomlin ever showed up.

    • @nco2004
      @nco2004 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@terrydizzydude4087 yes but mike tomlin has showed he can make the playoffs with anybody at quarterback unlike Bill Belichick and if he had a Brady or a Mahomes people would be having the GOAT conversation about him

    • @terrydizzydude4087
      @terrydizzydude4087 Před 3 měsíci

      @@nco2004 That didn't take long to move the goal posts. Tomlin rode on a HoFer's back to the playoffs for his first 15 years as a HC.

  • @drakewoods5335
    @drakewoods5335 Před 3 měsíci +9

    Bill to Dallas is the best move.

    • @cedricbeard4609
      @cedricbeard4609 Před 3 měsíci

      Vrabel enters the chat.

    • @manalone1330
      @manalone1330 Před 3 měsíci +2

      What has he done since brady left to require such blasphemy on my cowboys??

    • @cedricbeard4609
      @cedricbeard4609 Před 3 měsíci

      @@manalone1330 why would Tom Brady get ALL the credit?

    • @manalone1330
      @manalone1330 Před 3 měsíci

      @cedricbeard4609 because coaches don't take snaps or make plays or set the tone on the field.

    • @manalone1330
      @manalone1330 Před 3 měsíci

      @cedricbeard4609 granted he may have drew the play up but who executes the play, who makes adjustments on the field etc.

  • @tsmith2505
    @tsmith2505 Před 3 měsíci

    4:07 Keyshawn always says football like Stewie says cool whip on family guy 😂😂😂

  • @djkrisgill
    @djkrisgill Před 3 měsíci +1

    This a good 1

  • @LeesTexan
    @LeesTexan Před 3 měsíci +3

    Skip, you don't have to tear Belichick down to build Brady up! They BOTH were good for each other as Tom Brayd who WAS THERE says!

  • @terrence2396
    @terrence2396 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Brady wouldn't have won 6 without him

  • @c.b.5797
    @c.b.5797 Před 3 měsíci

    Facts!!

  • @Chrishagen
    @Chrishagen Před 3 měsíci +2

    LT called Belichick “Coach Bedcheck” because of his schoolmasterly attitude towards player curfews. Does that sound like an inspirational leader?