Thanks for the series of videos on the m15 r3! I’m expecting my first AW and this series is the single most comprehensive source of real world info on it.
@@advancedvector6833 Just finished watching the Post Repaste video. Love it! I appreciate how you have a level-headed approach to your review of the m15. Re: XTU, I was under the impression that the 10th gen chips were locked for undervolting. Did you have to do anything special to undervolt and change the clock multipliers? I was actually not planning on changing these, but after watching this video, I will definitely undervolt if it's not locked.
@@mxporkchop I did not have to do anything special to unlock my CPU but it is possible that perhaps the i5/i7 are locked. I seem to remember somewhere that the K designation on CPU indicated its unlocked and can be over/under clocked. The i9 does have the K while I do not believe the i7 does.
Hey Vector, I'm super on the fence on buying the m15 R3 with the i7 + 2070 Super + 300Hz screen combo. Do you think this laptop is worth the extra money we pay compared to other brands? Why or why not? Also, which screen would you recommend? Is the 300Hz screen better than the 144Hz one with G-Sync? I'm mainly gaming/working with minimal video and photo editing.
OMG i really though Alienware was kind of perfection in gaming laptop , but now I will try and investigate a little more before purchase this or another laptop
but I cannot use xtu or throttlestop for i7-10750H, right? or can I? is there a way to enable it through advanced bios or something, like in msi... btw...awesome work you've done !!! thanks!
Hey man great video again! Love your AW m15 series. I had some questions about the laptop if you would be so kind as to answer them. 1. Does it support Windows Hello facial recognition? 2. If I get the config with the single m.2 drive, will it still have 2 m.2 ports for me to upgrade later on? (I'm not sure if you would know this) 3. Is the 300Hz panel worth it over 144Hz one? I don't care much about the extra refresh rate as it's barely noticeable above 144Hz anyway, but I'm sort of concerned about the 3ms response time in the 300Hz one over the 7ms in the 144Hz. What do you think?
Hey I'll try to answer all your questions: 1. No it does not support Hello facial Recognition 2. Yes, It would still have the additional hard drive slots. However I do not know if it would come with the Copper heatsinks. There may be another mounting solution but it looks like the heatsinks are required to mount the drives. 3. I think this on is up to personal preference. This was not a choice I had to make as I could only get the configuration I wanted in the 300hz screen. The 144hz screen might be a little better on battery life.
@@advancedvector6833 Thanks for the prompt reply. You are a godsend :) The copper heat sink thing might be a problem now. I was thinking of saving $100 and getting 512 gigs SSD and upgrading it later on. The heatsink issue might make me unable to do so. Now I've to reconsider it.
Battery life isnt horrible but it isnt great either. Honestly pretty run of the mill for a computer like this. i did another DnD session last night and with just light web browsing etc it lasted a little over 3 hours before i had to plug it in.
Thoughts on the display that I should get? 144Hz with Nvidia G-sync or 300hz? I’m not sure if the 300hz display has g-sync because Alienware doesn’t give any info on that. How do you think the battery life will fair for either of these options? Also, would you recommend this one over the Razer blade 15?
I have the 300hz display and it does not have gsync. I'm not sure how these different displays would affect battery life but they would both be good options. I wanted the dark side of the moon skin so i didnt have the gsync option on mine.
Hey I tried replicating your settings on Intel xtu but I'm getting power limit throttling on my m17 r3. Should that be a concern and if so how do I stop it from happening?
Thanks for the honest review! I was a huge Alienware laptop fan but my last three laptops have all over heated or throttled big time after a few minutes of gaming. I really think their products have gone down the drain. The only reason they sale is because they can fiance people. But all in all most small laptops will have heating issues regardless on brand.
I live in Maldives, where the average temperature is 31°C (87.8°F) give or take. Would you recommend me this laptop or do I wait for Area-51m R2 or something else? I play games for around 8+ hours everyday. Please help! P.S. Also I think dell return policy is upto 14 days, you might wanna check it out, I tried returning my M17 R2 on the 27th day after my delivery and they declined, saying it was past their return date.
If you are spending that much time on a laptop gaming you probably want to look at something larger like the Area-51m or other manufacturers that create laptops designed for gaming. This ultra light tries to fit a niche of portability and gaming so i wouldnt recommend it for someone who games all the time.
I am subscribing to this dude! your content is worth watching! but man I have a question since we both have i9, mine is i9-9980hk which is on m17 r2. The tweak you used is awesome but how can I do the same if Alienware command center is running with OC? should I disable it there and turn on Intel xtu or uninstall AW oc control? btw I never used intel xtu. dose it launch by default on windows startup Thanks in advance buddy!
@@advancedvector6833 Thanks a lot! will try this out, could you please share your recommended OC for the GPU if possible? I have same RTX 2080 Max-q Appreciate your kind help.
I appreciate these videos I got my m15 r3 with the 10th gen i7 and 2070 super and as soon as I boot up any game my cpu temp goes to 100°c as well while the gpu is still fine I’m not sure I’m im comfortable with taking it apart do you think if I contact dell support they would fix it?
I think this is how all alienware laptops are configured. They onlu start to thermal throttle at a 100 degress while every other company limit the thermal throttle threshold at 90 degress. A fix without repasting would be to limit CPU power limits pl1 and pl2 at 40 watts. Alienware laptops are poorly configured when it comes to thermal limits. This is a well known issue with every iteration of m15. I dont think this is a hardware issue per se, the thermal solution doesnt seem lacking at least
This is aboslutely correct. AW is too aggressive in the clocking of these machines. After tweaking the CPU and undervolting and lowering clock speeds slightly its much more manageable and stable.
HI! I really need your thoughts. I ordered AW m17 r3 - i7 with 1660ti will its temps perform better? Thanks! I just ordered 2 days ago so I still have plenty of time to change it to g5 SE thanks!
I think with that configuration you should be ok. the 1660ti is a pretty low powered card and shouldnt produce much heat. Combine that with the i7 and i don't believe you'd have too much of an issue at all.
Thanks for the reply. I’m now looking on a new g5 the black one with i7+2070 maxQ if I go for this one I can save up to $350 with same screen on the alienware m17 r3 I ordered tho it’s gonna be 15”. Are the performance and thermal difference with 2070 maxq far/same from 1660ti?
I just got mine and undervolted the i7 at - .80 (above that and my computer has been crashing (everything just stopped moving), i still peak at 95c at 100% cpu utilization, but mostly around 85c when gaming. I am going to make a video review of it soon after i play around more.
I’m planning on getting the i7 2060 RTX 144GHz configuration. Just for casual gaming, I expect it to be in the 100s FPS. Is it going to overheat and throttle with this configuration? I really don’t want to open it up just to repaste it. This will be my first gaming laptop and I really don’t want to open and break such expensive laptop Also, How is battery life? (When you use it casually, web browsing, etc)
Hi Adv Vector. Are you facing coil whine? It was my case with Alienware m15 R2 OLED and 240Hz (two different brand new laptop) and I got finally refund.
I have not noticed this at all...or i should say my wife hasn't. I suffer from high frequency hearing loss so many high pitched noises i'm not able to hear.
I have played with those options and with the 2070 super/i9 combo was finally able to get something I was comfortable with. However now that I finally got my 2080 Super/i9 combo thermals are much better across the board.
@@ralphlauren6094 My screen is actually pretty solid. I have not seen any bleed at all but I likely just won the backlight lottery as almost every laptop i have owned in the last 10 years suffers from it a little bit.
Hey! So I talk about that a bit in this video. czcams.com/video/DgqbR6c6GDU/video.html If you just do some searches youtube as I explain you can find the tutorials you need. It does require a complete wipe of the machine and a reinstall of the operating system.
I havn't tried it yet but i'll do it and see what results I get. As it sits i'm actually undervolting the cpu and doing a pretty good OC on the GPU and things are looking ok. I don't see a situation where I would need to UC the GPU but i'll give it a shot and try to include it in my next video after i get the 2080.
if you are able to undervolt that low that is like very rare. I heard most people are only able to do less than -100mv. Some even struggled to get past 80. And this is all IF you can get undervolt to stick.
You may not be able to jump strait to that number. I had to slowly work down. I started at about -.050 and tested then dropped it by .005 till my computer would randomly shut off. then pushed it back up to a stable point.
Hi I hope you are well! How do I check if I have the same issue you had with the thermal? What do I do need to do and what should I be looking for to check if I have the same issue as you? Thank you!
I like to keep it around that in my laptops. Cooler if possible but if I can get a machine tuned to run around 80c when playing games etc then i consider it acceptable.
Advanced Vector Thank you very much!! Really appreciate your help. Waiting to receive my laptop and will try tweaking as you showed in your videos. Thank you! Great videos! 😊
mine was running 85 deegree but if i use coolingpad and the settings on cool there is no problem at all.there is no lagg no crash working perfect.the cpu not owerclocked still play everithing maximum perfect.use coolingpad your cpu going back to 65 deegree
Its so hard to say but I would expect the thermals to be better overall on that setup. I don't have my 2080 yet but when i get it i'll have a better idea.
Sir,can I buy M15 R3 i7 ...vth Nvidia 2060(6gb)...will it be good ..i am not a great gamer..and one doubt should I buy it with g Syn technology or without g Sync technology?
It is a very powerful CPU and it just generates a ton of heat. Also I believe that Alienware is too aggressive in there default clock speeds for this cpu and that is causing a lot of the problem.
I have heard lots of people mention it. I have not had one of them in hand so its hard to do a fair comparison. Many are claiming it performs better but to me it looks a little bigger and its possible it comes with less intense OC than AW provides out of the box.
Thanks for your work! Now I will choose the rog scar 15, same 2070s, which is much cheaper and has stronger temperature control. I usually play MHWI, if the CPU of a brand new laptop keeps over 90 degrees while I am playing, that will make me feel worry about the machine. For Alienware, they make good product but not enough I think for this time, I like my Alienware desktop so much, but for laptop, l have to say a little bit disappointed.
@@advancedvector6833 Yeah, there are enough reviews of new scar 15 this year. ROG knows that the 10th gen Intel generates huge amount of heat so that all new IU rog laptops use the liquid metal for CPU and sealed with small cage. Under both full workloads, 8c/16t i7-10875H and 2070 super are both around 80 degrees at 45W+115W. The surface of keyboard keeps under 40 degrees. Alienware should really learn something from ROG about the temperature control.
Hey vector I'm to scared to repaste my m17 r3 when I get it would a cooling pad be as good as thermal paste. Also if you can I would like to see the temps of the computer repasting plus a cooling pad would that stop the overheating problem thanks dawg and have a great day✌🏽
So i failed to mention this in my video...actually a huge oversight on my part but i'm still learning about the do's and dont's of this type of video. Anyway all my testing was done with a powered laptop cooler that had built in fans. I would expect temps to be worse than i indicated without the cooler. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016PMVM7Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 this is the one i have but it looks like they don't carry them anymore.
@@H4500rk cooling pad is not necessary. it did absolutely nothing for my m15 r3. Youre better off getting just a stand that raises the laptop. There are benchmarks from other youtubers that a stand is more than enough. A cooling pad only decreased the temp by 1 vs just stand alone.
Advanced Vector Thanks for the reply. I’ve just bought it, I’m having temperatures around 85-95c while playing around 3 hours. Should I undervolt it or this temperature is okay?
Unfortunately there wasn't a clear answer in the end. If you are going to just be gaming then I say i7 but if you have a specific use case where you would benefit from more cores over higher clock speed then the i9 might be a viable choice for you. I personally am going to stick with the i9.
@@advancedvector6833 Hey doesn't the i7-10875 have 8 cores? I'm teaming the CPU with the RTX 2070. Now I'm concerned about heat issues. What do you think?
@@advancedvector6833 thanks much appreciated, you seem to have the integrated graphics disabled and the thunderbolt video out is not displaying, which is weird. But IL look into when I get my unit
I actually did not disable the iGPU on purpose. I have been messing around and its not even being detected by windows. I am thinking AW has disabled it completely because i have the 300hz screen. I know in the past with high refresh or gsync screens they sometimes disable iGPU as it is not capable of handling those refresh rates.
@@advancedvector6833 its actualy verry weird here is a screen shot of my brother m15 r2 with 240Hz display cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/391980563143065601/722419552180502588/Annotation_2020-06-16_135706.jpg
Alright, just found out through your other video that the Ram is actually soldered 😡 how hard would it be to upgrade lol? Serious question lol and nice hat in the background 👍👍👍👍
A serious answer would be extremely. Unless you have access to very sophisticated technology and equipment trying to desolder the ram then solder new stuff back on would be pretty much impossible. Even with all the tech in the world it would still be difficult. Bottom line is get what you can now because it'd be cheaper to just get a whole new laptop then to consider upgrading the RAM
For a few hundred more there are way better options thermally at a small size. Asus Zephyrus will have the best temps. I would return the Alienware. My 2019 Zephyrus maxes at 85-90c for CPU temp at load (no undervolting). Gpu around 80c max. That is where you want your cpu to be long term.
I’d be interested to see base clock speeds and all the gory details. So far when people have told me xxx or yyy is better it’s not an apples to apples comparison. All these laptop companies have access to relatively the same technology and physics only allows us to dissipate a certain amount of heat. On thing I will say is I believe AW to be too aggressive on their clocks out of the box. It’s easy to tweak that and get great numbers.
I would expect them to be slightly better assuming you have the same specifications. That being said if you get the 2080 it will be the P version and not the Q so it would likely draw more power and generate more heat
Its great that AMD is finally back in the game! I am more of an Intel guy but I am all for the open market and competition to keep both companies progressing! That being said i'm not sure how this video portrays a particular weakness. I'd need to see a fair comparison between a comparable AMD CPU in a similar form factor but it might very well be better for a compact gaming machine.
Thanks for the series of videos on the m15 r3! I’m expecting my first AW and this series is the single most comprehensive source of real world info on it.
I'm just glad i could help out and try to answer peoples questions!
@@advancedvector6833 Just finished watching the Post Repaste video. Love it! I appreciate how you have a level-headed approach to your review of the m15. Re: XTU, I was under the impression that the 10th gen chips were locked for undervolting. Did you have to do anything special to undervolt and change the clock multipliers? I was actually not planning on changing these, but after watching this video, I will definitely undervolt if it's not locked.
@@mxporkchop I did not have to do anything special to unlock my CPU but it is possible that perhaps the i5/i7 are locked. I seem to remember somewhere that the K designation on CPU indicated its unlocked and can be over/under clocked. The i9 does have the K while I do not believe the i7 does.
"In the vacuum of space" Aww man that was hilarious. You're gonna go far on YT, that's for sure. Thanks for the video
Haha I sure hope so.
I still didn’t finish the video but great work man, thank you for keeping us up to date!
I appreciate that!
@@advancedvector6833 hey buddy looking to get the model on sale R3 2080 super max q and 10750 do you think I'll have heat issues in gaming above 90c?
Your video helped me out a lot, I have an M15 2018 model and was thinking to upgrade. I am getting a PC when the RTX 30 series comes out instead.
what hdd do i go with to add storage, i have 2 512 in raid 0???
Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
how safe isthis?iwant to repaste but I’m scared because motherboard is flipped and so much extra work.can I do this safely and without damaging?
Sir, do all models have the vapour chamber?
Hey man i have a question, my laptops cooling fan is kind of stuck, is there a way just to replace the fan?
Hey Vector, I'm super on the fence on buying the m15 R3 with the i7 + 2070 Super + 300Hz screen combo. Do you think this laptop is worth the extra money we pay compared to other brands? Why or why not?
Also, which screen would you recommend? Is the 300Hz screen better than the 144Hz one with G-Sync? I'm mainly gaming/working with minimal video and photo editing.
How is the keyboard temperature when gaming??
OMG i really though Alienware was kind of perfection in gaming laptop , but now I will try and investigate a little more before purchase this or another laptop
but I cannot use xtu or throttlestop for i7-10750H, right? or can I? is there a way to enable it through advanced bios or something, like in msi...
btw...awesome work you've done !!! thanks!
Hey man great video again! Love your AW m15 series. I had some questions about the laptop if you would be so kind as to answer them.
1. Does it support Windows Hello facial recognition?
2. If I get the config with the single m.2 drive, will it still have 2 m.2 ports for me to upgrade later on? (I'm not sure if you would know this)
3. Is the 300Hz panel worth it over 144Hz one? I don't care much about the extra refresh rate as it's barely noticeable above 144Hz anyway, but I'm sort of concerned about the 3ms response time in the 300Hz one over the 7ms in the 144Hz. What do you think?
Hey I'll try to answer all your questions:
1. No it does not support Hello facial Recognition
2. Yes, It would still have the additional hard drive slots. However I do not know if it would come with the Copper heatsinks. There may be another mounting solution but it looks like the heatsinks are required to mount the drives.
3. I think this on is up to personal preference. This was not a choice I had to make as I could only get the configuration I wanted in the 300hz screen. The 144hz screen might be a little better on battery life.
@@advancedvector6833 Thanks for the prompt reply. You are a godsend :)
The copper heat sink thing might be a problem now. I was thinking of saving $100 and getting 512 gigs SSD and upgrading it later on. The heatsink issue might make me unable to do so. Now I've to reconsider it.
Would really love to see how your experience has been 1 month in!
Does this new iteration of m15 have the new Nvidia gpu features like a mux and dynamic boost/ optimus? And what kind of batterylife are u getting?
Battery life isnt horrible but it isnt great either. Honestly pretty run of the mill for a computer like this. i did another DnD session last night and with just light web browsing etc it lasted a little over 3 hours before i had to plug it in.
Thoughts on the display that I should get? 144Hz with Nvidia G-sync or 300hz? I’m not sure if the 300hz display has g-sync because Alienware doesn’t give any info on that. How do you think the battery life will fair for either of these options? Also, would you recommend this one over the Razer blade 15?
I have the 300hz display and it does not have gsync. I'm not sure how these different displays would affect battery life but they would both be good options. I wanted the dark side of the moon skin so i didnt have the gsync option on mine.
Hey I tried replicating your settings on Intel xtu but I'm getting power limit throttling on my m17 r3. Should that be a concern and if so how do I stop it from happening?
I was not having this issue but you might have to do some testing and see if you back it off if you still get the issue.
Thanks for the honest review! I was a huge Alienware laptop fan but my last three laptops have all over heated or throttled big time after a few minutes of gaming. I really think their products have gone down the drain. The only reason they sale is because they can fiance people. But all in all most small laptops will have heating issues regardless on brand.
yeah its hard to fit that much power in something so small
Do you use MSI AFTERBURNERS? To lower your gpu volts?
I do use it. Its a great tool
I live in Maldives, where the average temperature is 31°C (87.8°F) give or take. Would you recommend me this laptop or do I wait for Area-51m R2 or something else? I play games for around 8+ hours everyday. Please help!
P.S. Also I think dell return policy is upto 14 days, you might wanna check it out, I tried returning my M17 R2 on the 27th day after my delivery and they declined, saying it was past their return date.
If you are spending that much time on a laptop gaming you probably want to look at something larger like the Area-51m or other manufacturers that create laptops designed for gaming. This ultra light tries to fit a niche of portability and gaming so i wouldnt recommend it for someone who games all the time.
I am subscribing to this dude! your content is worth watching! but man I have a question since we both have i9, mine is i9-9980hk which is on m17 r2. The tweak you used is awesome but how can I do the same if Alienware command center is running with OC? should I disable it there and turn on Intel xtu or uninstall AW oc control? btw I never used intel xtu. dose it launch by default on windows startup
Thanks in advance buddy!
Yeah I just completely disable all AW OC stuff and just use XTU for it all right now. I use MSI afterburner for OC of the GPU
@@advancedvector6833 Thanks a lot! will try this out, could you please share your recommended OC for the GPU if possible? I have same RTX 2080 Max-q
Appreciate your kind help.
my problem with the msi and razor are both with the keyboard form factor and the font
yeah i liked the AW better as well which is what was the tie breaker for me between the razer and this.
I appreciate these videos I got my m15 r3 with the 10th gen i7 and 2070 super and as soon as I boot up any game my cpu temp goes to 100°c as well while the gpu is still fine I’m not sure I’m im comfortable with taking it apart do you think if I contact dell support they would fix it?
I think this is how all alienware laptops are configured. They onlu start to thermal throttle at a 100 degress while every other company limit the thermal throttle threshold at 90 degress. A fix without repasting would be to limit CPU power limits pl1 and pl2 at 40 watts. Alienware laptops are poorly configured when it comes to thermal limits. This is a well known issue with every iteration of m15. I dont think this is a hardware issue per se, the thermal solution doesnt seem lacking at least
This is aboslutely correct. AW is too aggressive in the clocking of these machines. After tweaking the CPU and undervolting and lowering clock speeds slightly its much more manageable and stable.
HI! I really need your thoughts. I ordered AW m17 r3 - i7 with 1660ti will its temps perform better? Thanks! I just ordered 2 days ago so I still have plenty of time to change it to g5 SE thanks!
I think with that configuration you should be ok. the 1660ti is a pretty low powered card and shouldnt produce much heat. Combine that with the i7 and i don't believe you'd have too much of an issue at all.
Thanks for the reply. I’m now looking on a new g5 the black one with i7+2070 maxQ if I go for this one I can save up to $350 with same screen on the alienware m17 r3 I ordered tho it’s gonna be 15”. Are the performance and thermal difference with 2070 maxq far/same from 1660ti?
I just got mine and undervolted the i7 at - .80 (above that and my computer has been crashing (everything just stopped moving), i still peak at 95c at 100% cpu utilization, but mostly around 85c when gaming. I am going to make a video review of it soon after i play around more.
I’m planning on getting the i7 2060 RTX 144GHz configuration. Just for casual gaming, I expect it to be in the 100s FPS. Is it going to overheat and throttle with this configuration? I really don’t want to open it up just to repaste it. This will be my first gaming laptop and I really don’t want to open and break such expensive laptop
Also, How is battery life? (When you use it casually, web browsing, etc)
You'd probably be ok with that configuration. Battery life is ok. with the i9 and the 2070 i'm getting about 3 hours of use.
Hey mate, is your graphics card the Max-Q version or the Full version?
It’s the max-q
Hey Vector, is it normal for my m15 r3 to emit a high pitched sound when gaming? It’s very annoying and it like when your ears pop... lmk bro 👍🏻
I would say that is not normal. Mine does ramp up when its hot and it is def loud but not like what you describe.
I got a really important to ask
Does the M15 R3 full HD model come with HDR display?
No. I have not seen that in any of the spec sheets etc..
Advanced Vector okay ☹️
Hi Adv Vector. Are you facing coil whine? It was my case with Alienware m15 R2 OLED and 240Hz (two different brand new laptop) and I got finally refund.
I have not noticed this at all...or i should say my wife hasn't. I suffer from high frequency hearing loss so many high pitched noises i'm not able to hear.
Just trying to play some VR and maybe some siege and stuff with r3 2060 i7. am i going to have a problem? I bought a laptop cooling pad too
I think you will be ok. You may not be able to crank settings all the way up however I would expect you to have a very enjoyable experience .
Did you try to lower the turbo power max and short power? 135 W was the default?
I have played with those options and with the 2070 super/i9 combo was finally able to get something I was comfortable with. However now that I finally got my 2080 Super/i9 combo thermals are much better across the board.
@@advancedvector6833 Hi, how is the backlight bleed in your laptop? I do have some at the bottom. Does all have this?
@@ralphlauren6094 My screen is actually pretty solid. I have not seen any bleed at all but I likely just won the backlight lottery as almost every laptop i have owned in the last 10 years suffers from it a little bit.
Also, please don’t forget showing us how to change the boot and storage drives.
Hey! So I talk about that a bit in this video. czcams.com/video/DgqbR6c6GDU/video.html If you just do some searches youtube as I explain you can find the tutorials you need. It does require a complete wipe of the machine and a reinstall of the operating system.
Advanced Vector Just checked it out and now I know how to do it. Thank you!
Hey bro, can you also show a gameplay featuring the temperatures post repaste? It would be great.
I'll see what I can do!
Vector don’t forget me when your famous bro
Never my bro! Leave no man behind!!!
Advanced Vector hahaha true good luck with your channel vector
@@advancedvector6833 Then we'll have a video on "From Vector to Advanced Vector" 😂
Hey Vector, you can also undervolt the gpu with msi afterburner, it's very very beneficial for thermals!
I havn't tried it yet but i'll do it and see what results I get. As it sits i'm actually undervolting the cpu and doing a pretty good OC on the GPU and things are looking ok. I don't see a situation where I would need to UC the GPU but i'll give it a shot and try to include it in my next video after i get the 2080.
So can i just undervolt with xtu to that -0.135V and thats all i need to do? Or is there any other UV process that i have to do as well?
if you are able to undervolt that low that is like very rare. I heard most people are only able to do less than -100mv. Some even struggled to get past 80. And this is all IF you can get undervolt to stick.
@@vizionnite7086 how do we make it stick?
FroZenSouL ionO peope said to restart until it does but mine never did so I returned
@@vizionnite7086 sad, i dont think i can return mine since i bought in Thailand and not from dell directly
You may not be able to jump strait to that number. I had to slowly work down. I started at about -.050 and tested then dropped it by .005 till my computer would randomly shut off. then pushed it back up to a stable point.
Hi I hope you are well! How do I check if I have the same issue you had with the thermal? What do I do need to do and what should I be looking for to check if I have the same issue as you? Thank you!
You can monitor temps with a program called MSI Afterburner. If you see your temps getting high then you know you have thermal issues.
Advanced Vector thank you very much! What is the ideal temp? 80?
I like to keep it around that in my laptops. Cooler if possible but if I can get a machine tuned to run around 80c when playing games etc then i consider it acceptable.
Advanced Vector Thank you very much!! Really appreciate your help. Waiting to receive my laptop and will try tweaking as you showed in your videos. Thank you! Great videos! 😊
Can you upgrade maximum SSD storage!Using Samsung SSD!
Certainly! as long as you get an m.2 NVMe drive you can upgrade the storage in this computer.
mine was running 85 deegree but if i use coolingpad and the settings on cool there is no problem at all.there is no lagg no crash working perfect.the cpu not owerclocked still play everithing maximum perfect.use coolingpad your cpu going back to 65 deegree
How would an i7, Rtx 2070 perform compared to an i9 with a 2080? Great video btw, I've been following this series.
Its so hard to say but I would expect the thermals to be better overall on that setup. I don't have my 2080 yet but when i get it i'll have a better idea.
Sir,can I buy M15 R3 i7 ...vth Nvidia 2060(6gb)...will it be good ..i am not a great gamer..and one doubt should I buy it with g Syn technology or without g Sync technology?
I think the 2060 would be a fantastic option on this laptop!
What makes the cpu/gpu run so hot? It runs hot period no matter what you're doing?
It is a very powerful CPU and it just generates a ton of heat. Also I believe that Alienware is too aggressive in there default clock speeds for this cpu and that is causing a lot of the problem.
@@advancedvector6833 What do you think about the new msi ge66? Do you think its chassis could better air out the heat?
@@advancedvector6833 also, do you think the m17 r3 would run cooler than the m15 r3?
I have heard lots of people mention it. I have not had one of them in hand so its hard to do a fair comparison. Many are claiming it performs better but to me it looks a little bigger and its possible it comes with less intense OC than AW provides out of the box.
I imagine with the right configuration the m17 would. However the 2080 on the 17" is a P and not a Q so it would generate more heat as well.
Hey man, what is the GPU power limit?
114 W on the 2070!
Thanks for your work! Now I will choose the rog scar 15, same 2070s, which is much cheaper and has stronger temperature control. I usually play MHWI, if the CPU of a brand new laptop keeps over 90 degrees while I am playing, that will make me feel worry about the machine. For Alienware, they make good product but not enough I think for this time, I like my Alienware desktop so much, but for laptop, l have to say a little bit disappointed.
Glad I could help you make that choice! I hope the ROG works out for you! I hear they are pretty good laptops.
@@advancedvector6833 Yeah, there are enough reviews of new scar 15 this year. ROG knows that the 10th gen Intel generates huge amount of heat so that all new IU rog laptops use the liquid metal for CPU and sealed with small cage. Under both full workloads, 8c/16t i7-10875H and 2070 super are both around 80 degrees at 45W+115W. The surface of keyboard keeps under 40 degrees. Alienware should really learn something from ROG about the temperature control.
Hey vector I'm to scared to repaste my m17 r3 when I get it would a cooling pad be as good as thermal paste. Also if you can I would like to see the temps of the computer repasting plus a cooling pad would that stop the overheating problem thanks dawg and have a great day✌🏽
So i failed to mention this in my video...actually a huge oversight on my part but i'm still learning about the do's and dont's of this type of video. Anyway all my testing was done with a powered laptop cooler that had built in fans. I would expect temps to be worse than i indicated without the cooler. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016PMVM7Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 this is the one i have but it looks like they don't carry them anymore.
@@advancedvector6833 thanks man is that cooling pad good if it is I might get it because I want a high quality cooling pad that works thanks👍🏼
@@H4500rk cooling pad is not necessary. it did absolutely nothing for my m15 r3. Youre better off getting just a stand that raises the laptop. There are benchmarks from other youtubers that a stand is more than enough. A cooling pad only decreased the temp by 1 vs just stand alone.
@@vizionnite7086 thanks man you just saved me some 💸 thanks✌🏽
Does repasting voids warranty?
No
Advanced Vector Thanks for the reply. I’ve just bought it, I’m having temperatures around 85-95c while playing around 3 hours. Should I undervolt it or this temperature is okay?
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Great Job! Thanks Now I7 or I9?
Unfortunately there wasn't a clear answer in the end. If you are going to just be gaming then I say i7 but if you have a specific use case where you would benefit from more cores over higher clock speed then the i9 might be a viable choice for you. I personally am going to stick with the i9.
@@advancedvector6833 Hey doesn't the i7-10875 have 8 cores? I'm teaming the CPU with the RTX 2070. Now I'm concerned about heat issues. What do you think?
you never got back to me on a screenshot of the NVIDIA control panel, "configure sli, surround, physx" tab
Sorry about that: prnt.sc/t0di4c
@@advancedvector6833 thanks much appreciated, you seem to have the integrated graphics disabled and the thunderbolt video out is not displaying, which is weird. But IL look into when I get my unit
I actually did not disable the iGPU on purpose. I have been messing around and its not even being detected by windows. I am thinking AW has disabled it completely because i have the 300hz screen. I know in the past with high refresh or gsync screens they sometimes disable iGPU as it is not capable of handling those refresh rates.
@@advancedvector6833 oh OK that's strange
@@advancedvector6833 its actualy verry weird here is a screen shot of my brother m15 r2 with 240Hz display cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/391980563143065601/722419552180502588/Annotation_2020-06-16_135706.jpg
It runs so hot because alienware runs their CPU with more watts than the tdp so yh if u undervolt it will be cool
This is exactly what i found out as well after testing.
@@advancedvector6833 when u limit the wattage it runs cool
Could u do gaming performance with the down clock please like 4 ghz vs 4.2ghz vs 3.9ghz please
Alright, just found out through your other video that the Ram is actually soldered 😡 how hard would it be to upgrade lol? Serious question lol and nice hat in the background 👍👍👍👍
A serious answer would be extremely. Unless you have access to very sophisticated technology and equipment trying to desolder the ram then solder new stuff back on would be pretty much impossible. Even with all the tech in the world it would still be difficult. Bottom line is get what you can now because it'd be cheaper to just get a whole new laptop then to consider upgrading the RAM
For a few hundred more there are way better options thermally at a small size. Asus Zephyrus will have the best temps. I would return the Alienware. My 2019 Zephyrus maxes at 85-90c for CPU temp at load (no undervolting). Gpu around 80c max. That is where you want your cpu to be long term.
I’d be interested to see base clock speeds and all the gory details. So far when people have told me xxx or yyy is better it’s not an apples to apples comparison. All these laptop companies have access to relatively the same technology and physics only allows us to dissipate a certain amount of heat. On thing I will say is I believe AW to be too aggressive on their clocks out of the box. It’s easy to tweak that and get great numbers.
I’m new to computers and just bought an m17 r3 will the thermal’s be any better than the m15
I would expect them to be slightly better assuming you have the same specifications. That being said if you get the 2080 it will be the P version and not the Q so it would likely draw more power and generate more heat
Noooooo I wanted to see the repaste being done so I could do mines when I get it☹️
Yeah its just so controversial but here is a great video by LTT: czcams.com/video/r2MEAnZ3swQ/video.html
Is that a red hat hat or T hat
Dang this just showed how Intel is inferior to AMD now.
Its great that AMD is finally back in the game! I am more of an Intel guy but I am all for the open market and competition to keep both companies progressing! That being said i'm not sure how this video portrays a particular weakness. I'd need to see a fair comparison between a comparable AMD CPU in a similar form factor but it might very well be better for a compact gaming machine.