Esports: A New Hope?
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- čas přidán 22. 03. 2023
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Richard was right about CS2 and he didn’t even take a victory lap.
Let's wait a day or two, I'm expecting to hear him address some dickheads
The predditors that again said: "This time he is wrong!!1!!11"🤡
I guess you don't follow him on Twitter
Yet
@@MyRevoltec HOWS CS2 TODAY DICK-ED
Moist and Ludwigs valorant team already bodied TSM lmao
And faze! 😂
Shortly before the moist esports getting into CS thing was announced, Charlie was talking about how orgs burn money. Still the mad lad continues. All power to him.
Richard Lewis' views on esports fans are nothing short of brutal. And he's bang on.
Im a fan of Moist Esports Apex Legends team and the reason is because Charlie livestreams himself and his mates loving every second of their competition. He clearly has a true passion for gaming and esports. I wont pretend to know what goes on in the background, but it certainly seems like hes trying to do things the right way as a nice change of pace in the scene.
Honestly its a double edge sword. His passion sells the team for sure ; but that might causes issues when dealing with his players down the line.
The other day I saw a clip of ludwig watching Charlie's recent video on Sneako (a moron that threatened Charlie), with Ludwig saying "the only time I saw him (charlie) that mad was when he locked himself in the toilets and phoned [one of his players that just lost in a tourney match I forgot who] to call him a fucking moron that spams up-smash".
No clue if there was already bad blood between the two ; if thats his passion speaking out of turn ; or just Ludwig putting it too hard, but that worries me Moist Esport "good story" turns sours if it turns out he didnt realise the power dynamic he has over his players.
@@TakkV2 He becomes friends with a good chunk of the players so it ends up looking as banter, but hard to say unless you're the one involved
@@TakkV2 Fair comment & an important point
@@TakkV2 I'd agree except some of his players have reportedly turned down better deals elsewhere to stay. So having a boss who cares too much is apparently preferable to whatever shenanigans other teams are doing...
Personally I would choose honest truths from a manager who actually watches his own team over whatever the hell most of the esports scene is doing. Most org owners seem to have their head in the clouds and an illusiory idea of what their team is. *cough* Evil Geniuses *cough*
As a long time member of the FGC, I can't help but agree with Richard any time he dunks on them. The scene would be better if it had a journalist like you, but I don't blame you for not wanting to deal with the horseshit here.
I mean he tried to be a part of the FGC but the scene rejected him because bald man bad or whatever it was at the time. I remember him talking about it in the last few years. It happened around the time Richard was on Eleague
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I think one of the bigger things Ludwig has done is the tournaments his group runs, they've only done a few, but their valorant tournament and super smash bros melee tournaments are great for the scenes, and honestly if they can consistently get into running tournaments they can take a small piece of the pie for tournament organizers. Great video and I continue to hope that new blood will come into the scene and change it from the inside.
Hell I remember stumbling upon Ludwig’s channel when it was still just posting SSBM compilations and his profile pic was Beethoven. Now look at him. He’s a bit of an esports endemic in that way with smash, he was a commentator in that scene too
Ludwig over time and time helped out the smash community to let it flourish. More power to him and other esports titles.
As a currently sick in bed small music streamer who's average viewership went way down the 2 last months the part at 23:30 hit real hard.. many a times I've been thinking "I'm not good enough to be as entertaining as x, y and z, and I should go back to selling shoes for minimum wage and accept the depression that comes with working in retail". kick kinda gives me hope that twitch might increase their cut if kick gets successful but then again, that hasn't happened even though CZcams has a bigger cut.. great coverage though thanks for this video
Ty for the great content/work
I remember Jesse Cox having a series called the salt where he talked about how legacy esports orgs fucked him over when he tried to create his own thing because of how terrified they were someone else could enter the space and out compete them.
Could listen to you talking about video games all day. Great vid.
Thank you for the great content as always Richard!
New glasses looking sharp bro. Where'd you get them?
I’m a huge fan of Ludwig, he’s done a ton of good for the space, and isn’t afraid to put money and effort in to hosting tournaments and events, even for more niche or lower tier esports. The Chess-Boxing, Melee, and Valorant events were great to watch, and probably brought a lot of the new streaming audience to watch esports. Same can be said for the rest of the influencer team owners.
It’ll be interesting to see if any of these influencers who’ve dipped there toe into CS, now that the CS2 hype is in full swing.
NiKo catching a stray was too funny
That thumbnail is a work of art
I've been waiting for this.
I hope there is more influencer teams because then we could see a stable ecosystem where the money that supports our favorite creators goes back into the esports leagues. Then it could potentially become sustainable because they are supported by their fans. IE that twitch Prime is now going in your teams pocket, not just the influencers pocket.
What's also fun about these massive and popular influencers going into esports is that the old guard, be it org or dev, have a hard time bullying them.
They are the brand. They have the platform. They know how the social media game is played. If you treat them like shit or threaten them they have all the means to light you up. It's definitely going to lead to some rethinking about how the current big boys can conduct their business.
Great video, I enjoyed playing the drinking game where you take a shot every time rich says paradigm shift xD
For real though, fantastic content as always, and so glad to see teams like MoistEsports succeeding
Good stuff
God tier thumbnail
I’ve been wanting to write a piece about streamers potentially being the future of esports/orgs. It does give me a small spark of hope for the future.
Please do Dom! Love your work!
@@Fizzle2Fizzle thank you!
Good vid as always
looking good Rich.
10:10 Scuffed Podcast and Rajj royale days FeelsStrongMan
That thumbnail is a thing of beauty.
The thumbnail…holy shit so good
Appreciate you, here's a comment for the engagement.
I've never even remotely felt affinity for an esports team before, but the way Moist are going about things is great.
Also within Rocket League, Sunless is also is involved in a team as well, Rule One.
Love the thumbnail
richard you are the man
love u richard. im sad i didn’t catch on to you earlier. guess i was too young :0
I too am an old man watching Richard Lewis
Hope looming on horizon! Waiting for esports to get real!
Just after the conversation about CZcams swearing policy, there's a grammarly ad in the top right of the warowl video for "Tone Guidance". The irony is not lost on me
11:04 NiKo copping strays
Its amazing how nobody has made a "adult" streaming service with actual adult advertisers but nah gotta think about the kids.
You should def get steel on the show, I'm curious how he's doing.
Such an exciting time for counter-strike!!
im so in for an "adult" streaming platform. not porn or something. just adult content. swearing, gambling, drinking, smoking. actually catering to a more mature audience (topics, formats, content etc.)! and let people show their bodys for thousands of dollars if they want. who cares? also your observation about twitch being like a cubicle job is so bang on. the most successful streamers i follow just are streaming 12+ hours a day. they are actually playing games, but most other streamers dont even do that. how is that fun as a job? and youre not making millions unless youre xqc or some shit.
Me too but no smoking, it makes no sense to smoke in 2023. It's time this industry disappears
I'm all for ads on Twitch because I understand Twitch needs to make money and over 90% of the internet's money is in advertising. THE PROBLEM is Twitch's ads are so unbelievably intrusive that it ruins the experience for both the viewer and the streamer. And even worse if you're a small streamer and some viewer decides to scroll down and happens to click on your stream to give you a shot, they get hit with a 30 second preroll or god forbid a 1 minute preroll, they're just going to click off the stream and you've lost that potential viewer.
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LORD LEWIS IS NEVER WRONG
I route for Moist Moguls valorant's success in VCL🎉🎉🎉
Been wondering what your view is on these creator-lead orgs, thx for always keeping us informed!
Richard Ludwig actually also tries to do some decent journalism on his mega successful "Mogul Mail" CZcams channel. One of my favourite channels in all YT.
30:40 this stuff is why I don't enjoy youtube anywhere near as much as i used to 5/10 years ago. There is way more quality content creators now, but they have to constantly sanitise their work for fear of getting demonitised for covering the same things that tv news/ documentaries cover every day, when their work is often way more valuable as entertainment or journalism. Its a shame.
I have been highlighting this as a missed opportunity for Riot for a few years now. There's very little interest in professional NA league of legends ever since consistent streaming became impossible or ill advised for pro players. They haven't been able to launch any big personalities on the level of the OGs since, which is what American teenagers care about.
Having all these influencer owned orgs competing alongside former player owned orgs to win promotion into the LCS could've been massive, ESPECIALLY with costreaming. Imagine Asmongold's OTK fighting for promotion against Moist or a team owned by former DIG legends like imaqtpie and scarra. That would drive much more interest into the league than simply having the best players in NA, which is not particularly compelling.
As an aside, I am pretty sure influencer orgs will be much more desirable to sponsors. People who can make content for the team that arent the players and are famous in their own right seem like a good thing. And more streams of org owners watching their teams play seems like a good thing in a costreaming world ;). Charlie was losing his fucking mind watching moist.
Ludwig has a journalist channel. Mogul News. I like him!
my son will be an esports champ
you heard it here first
spent 17 years getting him ready
When Richard mentioned his age demographic, It surprised me because I was 17 when I started following. I'm 24 now, and its crazy to think about how shitted on E-sports has gotten
Just casually playing Street Fighter V, training for that sweet $2 million Capcom Cup Final in SF6 and listening to my man Richard Lewis. Surely nothing can go wrong.
I hope Moist and Disguised can get to a Karmine Corp (owned by Kameto) and Koi (owned by Ibai) level. It would be really interesting to see.
AHAHHAHAHAAHAA 👌To the person who made the thumbnail.
In essence, esports would be much better off as a hobby for people who are already rich so they build a less formal business and build teams, try to win. Rather than con artists who try to oretend esports is in any shape of form profitable (it never was). It will weed out good portion gamble, which is in the core of all the curruption imo
money fall!
❤
I understand when bad experiences put you off of interacting with a community. I've experienced that with the FGC, myself.
But at least I'm logical, reasonable, and objective enough to openly acknowledge that the majority in the FGC are decent people, rather than irrationally assigning disdain to the majority for the behavior of the minority and saying that it would be better if the entire FGC didn't exist.
The only truly reasonable and just take is to give credit where credit is due, no more and no less, as well as to NOT punish the innocent group majority for the actions of the minority individuals among them.
It doesn't matter if the undesirables are figureheads or nobodies, an individual is never more than just that: An individual.
Treating the whole community as bad actors because of a few bad apples is a take that deserves no consideration nor respect.
Objective truth.
Plain and simple.
Train's twitlonger sounds great and all, but right now all people think of when they hear "Kick" are Adin Ross and Stake.
get critical on the show rich
Tbf, i would love you to switch to ytb. I hate using twitch as a platform...
Whatever you do tho do whats best for you
this plus new esports gospel, cs2 here, g2 lost. it's too much. i'm so stuffed but the good news keeps coming
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ur the only influencer for me ricardo lewis :) xDDDD when r we goin to get some thirst trap pics :) uwu POGGERZ
Not fan of these react streamers but I guess even they are an improvement to the esports scene
I find it funny what WarOwl says in this video while also whining on twitter about not having CS2 Beta Key...and his whining worked.
God it’s nice to see a (part of a) sport boycotting Saudi Arabia’s sportswashing
Victory comment 🎉
65+ yo viewers gang rise up
And this doesn't even touch the european influencers setting up their teams and pushing viewership of national AND european leagues. It's a good time.
squadW
I understand you've had a horrible experience with so called FGC figures (mostly american btw)
But the FGC experience at a local level and what it represents is something completely different, it is what esports games have lost or have never hada. Not to be lumped with the game media and large influencers/TOs.
No, the locals are awful as well.
@@RLewisReports I see... Even if you dont I understand.
I hope you can free yourself from esports, your work is amazing.
Wow...Lewis is quite closed-minded and pretentious, isn't he?
Irrationally applying disdain for the actions of a community's minority to the whole, treating the exception as the rule.l in a subjectivity-driven corporal punishment stance that would also mean he deserves disdain based on what any criminals in his neighborhood may do.
Can't treat individual bad actors as...well...INDIVIDUALS, I guess.
That would just be too objective and respectable.
I don't watch all of Destiny's content but I've seen that he bleeps himself cussing in his videos now.
Isn't this essentially how TSM and G2 started? And we all know how that turned out. Streamers and influencers are garbage people. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but judging by how Charlie has managed his teams it seems like it's mostly something he does for the content rather than for having an actual passion for esports or whatever. It's gonna become a status thing to own your own team, only it's Charlie and Toast now instead of Mark Cuban and Rick Fox. I don't see the difference.
Isn't the whole point of flagging a video you release as 18+ that it is made for adults? 🤔 Wasn't aware it was this bad :(
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streamers joining/forming esports orgs just for tax evasion lol
HEY RICH DONT DISS MINESWEEPER ITS THE BEST GAME. Please
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CS 2 will save esports 🎉🤡
Can we also get a social media platform that isn't moderated by children. Rich is banned from the LoL subreddit but you have transphobic loonies that are terminally posting on there.
who tf even cares about reddit lmao, it's an echo chamber full of manchildren
" This ship is burning" 2010 Richard Lewis
" This ship is burning" 2023 Richard Lewis
"This ship is still burning" 2054 Richard Lewis
Does esports not have problems then?
The ship literally burnt to a crisp in 2008-9, was rebuilt, and then almost immediately set on fire again.
@@RLewisReports Can't see through the fire bro
Does esports have any problems? Simple question.
@@RLewisReports I'm not in disagreement with you, it's just funny how the industry constantly takes 1 step forward and then falls drunkenly down a flight of stairs.