DOD / AFM Delete Gone WRONG Part 2. Getting a New Engine - Chevy Silverado 5.3L

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  • In this video we show our findings and answer to the terrible noises that our 5.3L L83 has been making after the AFM DOD Delete. Turns out, we didn't do anything wrong! Instead we were sent the wrong heads. FYI, heads for a 6.2L will not fit on your 5.3L motor. The valves will hit the cylinders and pistons.
    Luckily GPI is helping us out big time so make sure to check out the next video for updates!
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    Associated Videos - AFM DOD Delete Series
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    Part 1 - Baseline Dyno: • AFM Delete Part 1 - Wh...
    Part 2 - What Parts Do You Need • AFM DOD Delete Part 2 ...
    Part 3 - Engine Removal: • AFM DOD Delete Part 3 ...
    Part 4 - Engine TearDown: • AFM DOD Delete Part 4 ...
    Part 5 - Installing New Parts: • AFM DOD Delete Part 5 ...
    5A - Cam Phaser Install: • AFM DOD Delete - How t...
    5B - Trunnion Upgrade: • How To Upgrade GM Trun...
    5C - Lashing HP Fuel Pump: • How To Properly Lash H...
    5D - Injector Seals • High Pressure Fuel Inj...
    Part 6 - Reinstalling Engine: • AFM DOD Delete Part 6 ...
    Part 7 - Tuning and Dyno Run:
    Part 8 - Installing Intake Manifold, TB, Air Intake, & Driveshaft:
    8A: AIRAID Intake: • Silverado 6.2 AIRAID I...
    8B: 6.2 Intake Manifold and TB: • 6.2 Intake Manifold an...
    8C: Drive Shaft: • Video
    Part 9 - Tuning and Final Dyno Run:
    Epilogue AFM/Delete Gone Wrong :
    Terrible Noises: • Terrible Engine Noises...
    Time for a New Motor: • DOD / AFM Delete Gone ...
    GPI Saves the Day: • AFM Delete GONE WRONG ...
    Lessons Learned: • AFM Delete GONE WRONG ...
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Komentáře • 364

  • @bobart1790
    @bobart1790 Před měsícem +3

    I recently went with a Jasper AFM delete remanufactured engine on our 2015 5.3L,I had a local installer do the work. No more ticking! Three year parts& labor or 100k miles.

    • @jwhmerica504
      @jwhmerica504 Před 9 dny +1

      Could you tell me what the engine it’s self cost?

    • @bobart1790
      @bobart1790 Před 9 dny +1

      @@jwhmerica504 the invoice from the installer I’m guessing (it’s been a while) $5500 for the engine, the shop charged $2700 for the install.

  • @r3tr0nic
    @r3tr0nic Před 3 lety +11

    Appreciate the honesty, things like this are very helpful for the community. Never would of thought the heads would be wrong, but it is a good lesson to all to always veryfy not just part numbers, but measurements and comparisons to original parts. I have yet to make such modifications to my 2014 L83 Silverado, but watching others is both great for tricks n tips, as well as inspiration. Thanks for sharing

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      Glad to help! Definitely a lesson learned for sure and hope it prevents someone else from having a similar issue!

  • @KiesMotorsports
    @KiesMotorsports Před 3 lety +6

    So glad you got to the bottom of it! There will be tears of joy when this thing is together lol

  • @LJK69187
    @LJK69187 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank You guys for putting this series together!!!

  • @memov5867
    @memov5867 Před 3 lety +2

    The suspense of what happens next is killing me! I’m definitely subscribing. GPI has amazing customer service. I’m sure they will make it up to you

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      The next video is almost done. Update will be up soon!

  • @Sil80315
    @Sil80315 Před 3 lety +9

    That's an unfortunate result but glad you found the problem. Still by far the most in-depth how-to videos on this topic and actually helped me out a ton with doing the same GPI delete (minus ported heads) on my 14 Silverado. Keep up the great work

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety +1

      Definitely a bummer but still very glad we got the series put together. Excited to have my truck back soon! New parts are on there way

  • @mikereese3410
    @mikereese3410 Před 2 lety +6

    Wow!! I've been following along with this build, I only thought this kind of stuff happens to me!! Love your videos!

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 2 lety

      Thanks for watching along man! Haha sadly it happens to the rest of us too.

  • @billthompson9595
    @billthompson9595 Před 3 lety +4

    Very sorry to hear of the issue and trouble. Hopefully the supplier will go good for it. All the best.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      Thanks man! Much appreciated. They are helping us out. We will have an update on a couple of weeks

  • @TD-qi8eh
    @TD-qi8eh Před 3 lety +4

    Thanks for this update. Using your vids to help me along with my L83 getting a Stage 1 cam kit, DOD/AFM delete, etc. Actually reassembling this weekend. Great vids, and you sharing is much appreciated!

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      No problem! Glad the video series has helped you!

    • @MrLoony690
      @MrLoony690 Před 3 lety +3

      Hey bud let me know how it runs after ? I have a stage 3 cam dod delete kit coming for my L83 with stall converter.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety +2

      Runs good! Having a coolant issue haven't been able to track down but it runs well. We will have an update video out soon

    • @anthonymoy4471
      @anthonymoy4471 Před 2 lety

      How's it running ?

  • @crazygrady127
    @crazygrady127 Před 3 lety +2

    Dude you have my kind of luck. As soon as you showed a picture of the valve hitting the cylinder wall I knew exactly what had happened. Sooooo much work. I would be so mad. 🤬

  • @03mach281
    @03mach281 Před 3 lety +4

    Tough break.. mistakes happen and good thing GPI is a good company. I will be ordering a cam/delete and drop in pistons/rods from them very soon!

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety +1

      For sure and very true! Couldn't be happier with the customer service I've experienced with them

  • @getmoniiE
    @getmoniiE Před 11 měsíci

    Thanks for the honest post. This helps a lot. You got a new subscriber for this one!

  • @Kuzican01
    @Kuzican01 Před 3 lety +2

    At 5:16 it actually looks like torch marks on that 6.2l head where it was blowing past the head gasket and so forth. That's too bad all this hard work you guys put into this project ends up costing you an entire engine because of head differences. Thanks for putting this video out and looking forward to your next video.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      Yeah, really a bummer knowing my truck could have been up and running if it had just been the right part :(

  • @jhendren0001
    @jhendren0001 Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome video,,,, sorry about the bad news but thank you for posting this for all of us so if there's anything to learn please eveyone not only check part numbers but this kind of damage could be prevented by just taking a few extra minutes to measure things and be sure the parts are right ,hey everyone makes mistakes and things like those heads are so similar its really hard to tell the difference, cant wait to see this back together and on the road again👍👍

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety +1

      Appreciate that and very good points! I hope it helps others prevent mistakes in the future! I've learned my lesson for sure.

  • @chopper1168
    @chopper1168 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the honesty of your video and it was very helpful.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 2 lety +1

      Glad to help! No point in hiding the mistakes. We are all here to learn together!

  • @luisdias5132
    @luisdias5132 Před 3 lety +2

    Love your videos sorry for the bad news at least it's a good Learning lesson hopefully it works out well you get that Kick-Ass truck running again

  • @sk8man48_5
    @sk8man48_5 Před 7 měsíci

    Really glad i kept watching the series

  • @ryanmclaughlin1803
    @ryanmclaughlin1803 Před 3 lety +2

    Great videos! Love the channel! Keep up the good work. One of the best car channels on CZcams.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks man!

    • @Brutepaintballer
      @Brutepaintballer Před 3 lety +1

      WE ARE NOTHING WITHOUT INCREDIBLE VIEWERS LIKE YOU 😭😍

    • @ryanmclaughlin1803
      @ryanmclaughlin1803 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Brutepaintballer haha thanks. you guys are in my weekend routine! every saturday (lol I know) I watch all the new vids I haven't seen since the last week.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety +1

      Love it 😊

  • @texasfan8892
    @texasfan8892 Před 2 lety +2

    This video actually gives me a lot of hope because I was sitting here thinking that even if I were to get an AFM/DFM disabler for a 6.2 v8, considering that I'm thinking about getting a 2022 silverado for my next vehicle purchase, that I would still have lifter failure. Sucks that this happened of course but at least it was an issue with the wrong parts being sent and not an internal design flaw with the engine itself.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 2 lety

      Agreed! Since I got all the correct parts, I'm at about 11K miles with 0 issues.

  • @johnharris6181
    @johnharris6181 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow . Document part numbers. Assume definitely makes an Ass out of you and me. Love your honesty. Thanks. Very helpful.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      Yup we should have known better than to assume it was the correct part 😓

  • @DiyAllaroundguy
    @DiyAllaroundguy Před rokem +2

    Your definitely a whollllle lot calmer than most people would be after making this video 😂

  • @samsstreetmetalart7457
    @samsstreetmetalart7457 Před 3 lety +1

    Good honest guy thanks for the tip !

  • @juanalbertomontiel3243
    @juanalbertomontiel3243 Před rokem +1

    My mechanic is doing the same for my Yukon , thank you for sharing your experience and I will ask my mechanic to double confirm heads P/N

  • @miked8227
    @miked8227 Před rokem +1

    I guess this is a lesson learned about blind trust and verification on heads. We are all prone to make mistakes and I guess the old saying trust no one would of applied here. I’ve certainly have learned from this video. Thanks

  • @TS-qd2uj
    @TS-qd2uj Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the lesson!

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před rokem

      It was a painful one but glad it is helping others

  • @BigEbikesports
    @BigEbikesports Před 3 lety +2

    I did my own tune on my 2017 with HP tuners and several neighbors' trucks in my area. There are a lot of bad tuners out there so please use a very very reputable shop/person when tuning your truck. The Gen V LT engines OS are so different than anything else. Glad to see that company did you right and made up for their mistake. Shid happens but attitude and gratitude is what makes it all good. Thanks for sharing these awesome videos and your experiences.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety +1

      Appreciate that input. That always makes me nervois. I'm planning to have GPI tune the truck but if you have any suggestions from your experience definitely let me know

    • @BigEbikesports
      @BigEbikesports Před 3 lety

      @@TheSundaeDrive czcams.com/channels/P_LcnBKwJqJOiGoCRT5SCw.html

    • @BigEbikesports
      @BigEbikesports Před 3 lety

      @@TheSundaeDrive Tuning an engine is on ongoing thing, not just an hour or 2 on the dyno. So many parameters, so many variables such as outside temps and weather. My advice is ask lots of questions. There isn't a lot of people who can tune a Gen V correctly. The link to Goat Rope garage channel is all the suggestions that I could ever give in one sentence.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety +1

      That’s our biggest fear with the C7. We’re probably going to cam it among some other things and have trust issues with tuners so Pete is motivated to dive into the world of tuning for the LT1 and be as meticulous as possible. Too many wannabe tuners out there

    • @BigEbikesports
      @BigEbikesports Před 3 lety

      @@TheSundaeDrive Data logging and more data logging while you drive is your best friend. Always keep an eye on A/F ratios, spark timing, torque management, power enrichment etc. Motivation and patience is all you need and it's very rewarding when you get it all figured out and can pay dividends when friends, neighbors and family need tuning too!

  • @nicktorres5540
    @nicktorres5540 Před 10 měsíci

    Holly cow man I hate that for ya at least you have the knowledge to fix it I’m doing mine this weekend AMS racing DOD/AFM delete kit comes with a Diablo tuner too

  • @xSxEcuuadorxLx
    @xSxEcuuadorxLx Před 6 měsíci +1

    This is the video the made me a subscribe, your honesty. Good job sir

  • @texasrancher9318
    @texasrancher9318 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Interesting video. Appreciate the info.
    I suffered a debilitating problem that has put a damper on the ability to do major engine work and repairs. Looks like I may have to hire out AFM deletes and such.

  • @jasondayberry9906
    @jasondayberry9906 Před 2 lety

    Gpi,owes u a new engine 💯

  • @TheMrmmkkpro
    @TheMrmmkkpro Před rokem

    That sucks and looks expensive.
    My 2015 6.2 Silverado at 117k just collapsed.
    I'm old school have built countless engines, but never a LS or LT, so my first go around is coming. GM wants 4k bucks to redo the bad side, they will not put a regular cam and lifters in, I refuse to go back to AFM.
    So I'm doing the delete myself. I'm watching every video I can, a crash course. Kinda nervous, but confident I can make it better than stock for a lot less cash.
    Thanks for posting this, going to check out your earlier work also. 👍👍

  • @ironhide2021
    @ironhide2021 Před 3 lety +2

    Good update, Now this is a great time to do a whole series on buying a used L86. Get it upgraded and swap it out! :)

    • @Brutepaintballer
      @Brutepaintballer Před 3 lety +1

      Indeed it is, although our original mission was to see how much power the L83 would make with the cam + heads + ported intake manifold 😂 now we’re just conflicted

  • @marksmith8877
    @marksmith8877 Před rokem

    Thanks awesome info

  • @MrRGiller
    @MrRGiller Před 3 lety +6

    Well, that sucks as far as all of the extra work you have to do again. At least the company is taking care of you.

  • @cdgarcia453
    @cdgarcia453 Před 3 lety

    So sorry that happened.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety +1

      Appreciate that! Just glad we identified the issue so I can get it fixed now!

  • @elcatano1080
    @elcatano1080 Před 3 lety +1

    I did the delete/ cam swap on my truck , by following all ur videos and steps seriously my 1st time ever doing a cam swap and till this day it’s running good ! I have a video on my CZcams it’s a Texas speed stage 2
    Good luck ! Hope you get that truck up and running!

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      Glad the series helped! We knew people were already following our guide and having a lot of success which was rewarding but also frustrating because mine wasn't working 😂😂

    • @robertcast6516
      @robertcast6516 Před 3 lety

      Hey man can u help me out...i hAve a 2012 chevy tahoe one of my lifters is knocking can i swap it out to something called delete valley metal..

  • @maxhenry1977
    @maxhenry1977 Před 3 lety

    What a great opportunity to put a 6.2 in your truck 👍

  • @scottsuzuki5537
    @scottsuzuki5537 Před rokem

    The reason I was asking about the heads is because I have worked on motorcycle engines for years and when you bore the cylinders is can cause problems without head matching to your new bores, ie: as in raising your compression ratio and or causing hot spots or even head gasket failure, especially on turbo or supercharged applications. Just like it can be a problem if the opposite, ie: larger combustion chambers than bore size.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před rokem

      But yeah, definitely want the right head for the block, either way is bad lol

  • @osielgarcia8674
    @osielgarcia8674 Před 3 lety +2

    Thats great that a company 😀 takes care of there customers great job GPI for backing up your products and man I would have done the same due to tge parts are coming from well known company u don't think about can't wait to see the new build maybe some boost

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      Definitely planning out future mods! And yes, very thankful they are taking care of me. Very few companies that would do that

  • @TexasRedneck
    @TexasRedneck Před 3 lety

    And this is why I'll be using Texas Speed when I do mine.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety +1

      They made it right tho. Not sure how many companies would have done that

  • @jeffspicoli6088
    @jeffspicoli6088 Před 3 lety +6

    Note: GPI's HR team needs to regularly drug test fulfillment department, and/or management needs to significantly improve parts validation prior to disposition of inventory to the outbound dock.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety +3

      They did end up making it right so even tho it was a huge pain they took care of me and that's way more than most companies would do

  • @Shotzie
    @Shotzie Před rokem +2

    I'd be scraping the top of my head off the ceiling. Thanks for the info 👍

  • @boostseasonracing
    @boostseasonracing Před 3 lety +2

    Totally saw that flaw in the head thread it was the video when reassembly happened

  • @cletustollery6914
    @cletustollery6914 Před rokem

    If they made good on parts, threw ya a few a few shirts and learned something... it's all good! Amazing what old school guys can do! Hopefully ya got their prototype "whipass" version before anyone else!

  • @Shanaigins
    @Shanaigins Před 3 lety

    Coming from a bitter Ex technician I can say I am not surprised with what you found. I started working on vehicles in the mid 80s and I quickly learned the definition of NEW is NEVER EVER WORKS!!!
    Being paid commission every single problem that came up while working on a customers vehicle cost me money and time and made me look bad even though just like you on the surface it seemed I had done everything right. Like installing a brand new OEM GM water pump, go to fill the cooling system to have it piss coolant all over the floor from a rolled factory installed seal!! I could have found that issue by looking over the water pump better or pouring a little water in the housing before installing. As time went by this type of problem kept creeping up making my life miserable it got so bad I did not trust any part it seemed I had to test, check and double check everything yet would still get bit.
    I got a set of aluminum SMC heads from Mad dog racing I looked them over I thought pretty good, bolted them on then went to install the push rods and rocker arms to get shut down because poor quality control allowed heads to get sent to me with the push rod slots that were never machined properly to the point where I couldn't even fit my push rods in!! I can tell you if I had gone through all the work, time and money that you did with this job I would have went full on A-hole, destroyed the truck burnt it to the ground and probably the shop and all my tools in the process. My hats off to you for keeping calm, staying reasonable and working with the vendor.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      Yeah man, it is a shame that quality control is what it is today. I have had brand new parts not work on customer cars and it is very frustrating when you have to explain to the customer that they are going to bed to come back or wait for a new part. We do a lot of flat rate jobs which are great when it goes smoothly but stinks when it doesn't do to a part issue

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      GPI really took care of me tho. Can't believe how much they helped me out so that helped keep me calm lol

  • @lynheydt3304
    @lynheydt3304 Před 3 lety +1

    If there is one thing I learned in all the years of working on cars after market is not always the hot setup. Hope the pay for a new short block.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      They helped us out thankfully! Always need to double check for sure. These were OEM ported heads.

    • @Bangkok-ik1fp
      @Bangkok-ik1fp Před 3 lety +1

      That's a big difference from 5.3 to 6.2. It should be on them. You're lucky to have video.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      Yeah, I think the videos helped a lot

  • @MaxTune
    @MaxTune Před 3 lety

    If you’re in the Atlanta area. I disable the dod feature Monday thru Friday.

  • @mikescaffo4850
    @mikescaffo4850 Před 4 měsíci

    You video was great the first time well done sorry it didn't work out but shit happens

  • @robertcast6516
    @robertcast6516 Před 3 lety

    On my 2012 checy tahoe...my one of my lifters are knocking can i swap it out to a delete valley metal

  • @KrazyKajun602
    @KrazyKajun602 Před 5 měsíci

    Yea, unfortnately a consumer can't trust anyone from any company to do their job correctly. Great find.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 5 měsíci

      They did make it right getting me a new motor thankfully

  • @petebach7221
    @petebach7221 Před 2 lety +1

    Wow. Sucks to be you. Good luck with getting an engine from the machine shop.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 2 lety

      It was a fun experience - new engine in and up and running with over 20K miles on it :) no issues

  • @kristravis7749
    @kristravis7749 Před 3 lety

    I didn't get my cam tight enough and snapped the down. It made ptv contact and spun a lifter messed up my cam. Have a new one on the way. Guess we're learning the hard way lol but hey stuff happens.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      Mistakes that we will never make again I’m sure (hopefully)

  • @Drunknferry
    @Drunknferry Před 2 lety

    Finally found this .....dam

  • @TownerBruce
    @TownerBruce Před 3 lety

    Hey man love the videos, I’m wondering if there’s a manual that guides you through all this that I could look atop something that you would recommend?

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      Thanks! Glad you have been enjoying them. We linked to a Corvette dod delete guide in the description that was pretty helpful to us.

  • @vongillman
    @vongillman Před 3 lety +2

    Well that sucks !!!
    Yes young jet-eye... measure twice
    Torque once .✌️

  • @Mr.Beastforpresident
    @Mr.Beastforpresident Před 3 lety +2

    Great videos! I have a question, when taking the original engine apart did you notice any excessive Carbon build up on the intake valves from the direct injection?

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      Glad you are enjoying them! I did not but I've also been running a catch can for the last 60K miles or so (108K miles total)

    • @Mr.Beastforpresident
      @Mr.Beastforpresident Před 3 lety

      The Sundae Drive I believe if I’m not mistaken after 2016+ GM revised the intake and PVC system.
      I put a catch can on my old 6.0 LY6 with 541,000+ miles then took it off after a couple days, as being so used of the truck I felt the engine wasn’t running optimally and vacuum had lowered.
      In a sense/ to put it another way, sort of like a normal size straw on a drink being lengthen to 4 times it’s length it takes more vacuum to pull up the liquid as gravity and the weight of the liquid itself wanting to go back in the cup.
      The straw representing the extra hose and length required for the catch can.
      Vacuum is essential for helping seal, and keep in place front and rear main seals.
      I honestly believe manufactures do not put catch cans for a reason. Otherwise it would be simple to write it off as a maintenance item like oil filters, fuel filters, air filters etc...
      My option is that of, if a catch can was essential on a stock engine the factory would put it, as there’s too much on the line. Heck a Hellcat doesn’t even have one.
      I know the Silverados had AFM issues but, I believe people aren’t fully aware of the updates/upgrades in 2016 to the AFM Solenoids and updated AC Delco Dexos 1 GEN 2 oil specifically formulated for AFM issues.
      I personally know 4 people with 2016-2018 Silverados with 200,000+ mile with no AFM issues and they aren’t using the new formulated oil. Now they all had injector issues and replaced but, I personally believe and pretty much know they’re not running Top-Tier quality fuels such as Chevron, Exxon, Shell etc...
      Anyhow, just thought I’d share some insight. I can go on and on and on, on anything Automobile related. Also, I’ll tell you something you may not know but, will appreciate because you’ll know what I’m talking about.
      The best oil filter for these engines are Ac Delco, there’s better filtering filters out there but you sacrifice flow for filtration big time. Essentially putting a strain on the oil pump in 3 ways with a ‘ high end ‘ oil filter.
      1) The filter media and or ‘ more ‘ pleats are more restrictive depending on what filter is in comparison to an Ac Delco ‘ E’ filter
      2)The outlet, ( inside the center of the oil filter ) on high end filters have much smaller diameter openings on the center tube compared to the bigger openings on the plastic center tube on the AC Delco 46E filters.
      3)The spring for the bypass valve is too strong on high end filters, meaning when the filter is semi clogged along with trying to push oil through the more restrictive smaller outlet, the oil pump then instead of pushing down a ( thin leaf weaker valve spring like on the Ac Delco filter ) must now push down on a stronger coil spring found on all high end filters.

  • @alfenner3309
    @alfenner3309 Před rokem

    Curious.. There is the manual way to not use the AFM. I think it is M5, but needs to be done everytime the truck is fired up. Is this the reason you were wanting to delere/disable? The pain of doing it everytime you get in the truck.
    Thanks.

  • @dwightlooi
    @dwightlooi Před 3 měsíci

    If they sent you the wrong heads and it damaged your motor, they owe you not just new heads but a motor.
    The the minimum, I'll expect them to rebuild your motor at their expense.
    A new crate motor will be preferable and more expedient. They can have your motor back as a core.

  • @colt2206
    @colt2206 Před rokem

    This why I don’t mess around with these mod’s people recommend on CZcams. Leave it factory and spend your money on maintenance using factory parts. Don’t modify it and leave it stock. All I did was put the deal on mine when new that keeps it running in V8 only. It plugs into port and can be removed at anytime without being permanent or modifying anything. Works perfectly and it always stays in V8 mode so I don’t have to worry about lubrication to valve train

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před rokem

      These were all factory OEM parts (except for the cam shaft of course) everything are GM parts. Was just sent the wrong ones. And definitely recommend using a range device but many have still reported the failure running the plugins sadly.

  • @kismofer1
    @kismofer1 Před 2 lety

    I just did the AFM delete with RAGE Technology ....not spending lot of money 💰with doing all this process...good luck 👍

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 2 lety

      Might help prolong the life of the afm system but doesn't replace the lifters that fail unfortunately. Hope it works out for you tho 👍👍

    • @davidrowley8251
      @davidrowley8251 Před rokem

      You didn't do an AFM delete. You simply plugged in a device that does a DISABLE AFM command to the Computer, everytime the vehicle starts.

  • @regentsuper3086
    @regentsuper3086 Před 3 lety

    I'm really sorry for that extremely Big and Hard working Job Buddy,
    All U was need to try
    RANGE device
    And next very, very important::: "
    each oil change)= very expensive fully synthetic Oil, Bottle Lucas synthetic Lube , and often Oil change, not longer then 3,500 k miles , Lifter will last till engine makes 350.000 miles

  • @alfredomendoza8239
    @alfredomendoza8239 Před rokem

    I just ordered 12620214 heads for my truck 5.3 how would I check to make sure it’s not a 6.2 and is in fact 5.3 ? Does 6.2 have different number or is it the same ?

  • @juliewalsh9525
    @juliewalsh9525 Před rokem +2

    great video. Nothing better than being able to trace everything back so well. Damn shame though! I bet you’ll measure every head and cylinder in the future now though, I know I sure will! Great feeling too when u finally find the problem and it wasn’t your fault. Makes having to do an engine swap a much more enjoyable experience IMO lol How many miles did you get in it with the 6.0 head?

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před rokem

      Lol agreed, would have been nicer if it didn't happen. I honestly forget, not more that 1/4 mile at most. It was still running ok somehow lol

    • @stoney92279
      @stoney92279 Před 10 měsíci

      ⁵⁵⁵⁵55þc❤😂ć😢😢

  • @jeffchristian9917
    @jeffchristian9917 Před 3 lety

    I just did the afm disabled through obd port. Not go this route on my daily for this reason.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety +1

      Easier and less likely to fail if you caught it early. Still can and likely will fail in the long term tho. The issue in our video was due to a wrong part but the delete itself tho

  • @patrickwarden2933
    @patrickwarden2933 Před 6 měsíci

    Wow wrong parts always hurt

  • @gregory2622
    @gregory2622 Před 3 lety +1

    My trk was exactly like yours and same year .Had 99 thou for miles.Dealer gave me 22 thou for a trade in on a 2020 SILVERADO. Love the new trks Alot better.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      I like the new ones a lot. I'll eventually get one but sticking with this one for now

    • @Brutepaintballer
      @Brutepaintballer Před 3 lety

      Pretty good trade in $$$!

  • @arcedias
    @arcedias Před rokem

    Question fer ya! Once I disable the AFM should I replace the AFM style lifters with regular lifters. If so what lifter assembly would you recommend. Cam replacement as well?

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před rokem +1

      So if you are just tuning out afm with a range device or something similar, you should not change the lifters. Only change the lifters with a new cam. You will also need several other parts and you will need a tune for that new camshaft and lifters from a custom tuner.

  • @dreece2000
    @dreece2000 Před rokem

    Did this engine come with dome tops?

  • @ImNotHereToArgueFacts
    @ImNotHereToArgueFacts Před 7 měsíci +1

    I watched the video where you had all the new parts on a table. I did notice you had the 6.2 l intake w/ rectangle ports. Did original heads have that? Guess I'll try to go back and see.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 6 měsíci +1

      I'll have to go back and look at well. Good eye tho

  • @Stevenscorp
    @Stevenscorp Před měsícem

    I’ve got a 6.2 liter in my shop right now and I’ve done brand new afm lifters. Timing is correct but now I am having a lifter tick issue. This engine has left a bad taste for chevys for me. I’d rather throw an old 350 in which is what I’m going to do.

  • @kellyappel3015
    @kellyappel3015 Před rokem

    And that is the world we live in today. So many people have taken it upon themselves to think they can build a motor that thousands and thousands of these "performance aftermarket specialist" shops have opened up. Most of this stuff is built cheap, with cheap labor. Hopefully you get some good support from the people you ordered from.
    On a side note, if you're offended by my opening statements, consider this: ALL engine builders (professional or not) who KNOW what they're doing will ALWAYS gently rotate the crankshaft over after each step in the build. Had that been done, there is no doubt this would have been avoided.
    He learned the hard way that you CANNOT trust anyone to be competent these days, and you had better learn to check and double check everything.

  • @arthurrodesiler3109
    @arthurrodesiler3109 Před rokem +1

    As you get older stuff like this old real fast. Leave it stock and do maintenance. Messing around with stuff like this with electronic stuff turns into nightmare more often than not.

  • @n5yiz
    @n5yiz Před 3 lety +1

    It's going to be hard to place blame....seems like a very easy mistake to make.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      Definitely as easy mistake. Hopefully it will prevent someone else from running into the same issue!

  • @eugeneyakubson4145
    @eugeneyakubson4145 Před 2 lety

    Where did you get those torque specs for the head that could’ve gave you a sign that they were something was wrong

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 2 lety

      I used the torque specs for the l83 heads straight from gm. So unfortunately that wasn't a help. Should have just flipped the heads over lol. Lesson learned.

  • @picturemerollin21401
    @picturemerollin21401 Před 2 lety +1

    What did you replace the engine with? I'm dealing with issues myself having to replace the engine in my 2008 tahoe. I'm trying to figure the route to go. Head gasket and no compression i guess the engines a mess inside my mechanic said when he looked in with a camera. Worst luck ever lol no dk what to do.

  • @nhabibhabib2135
    @nhabibhabib2135 Před rokem +1

    You got me confused if there is that much difference you will not be able to put them together all the screw will not work that mean the engine size totally different guess what? I put the VLOM on the Yukon denali and it comes on both engine on 5.3 & 6.2 all the screw worked perfectly.

  • @arthurrodesiler3109
    @arthurrodesiler3109 Před rokem +1

    Really they owe you a complete new motor and labor for this mess up they did.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před rokem

      While we lost a lot of time in diagnosing and man hours to get the issue resolved, we think GPI did good to us overall so we are thankful for them

  • @Titian92
    @Titian92 Před 2 lety

    That’s really bad that they didn’t pay attention to part numbers.

  • @dantec8854
    @dantec8854 Před 3 lety

    Can you deleted with hptunes ?

  • @raymondgallagher6895
    @raymondgallagher6895 Před 3 lety

    I own the same truck. Today it a lifter started to tick at idle on and off how ever it has 220231 miles on it. Trying to decide on new motor or delete kit?

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      I would go for the delete and swap out some of the other parts like the running chain, coil packs, plug wires, all new gaskets etc. It will practically be a new motor as long as you treated it well with good oil and regularly oil changes

  • @seanfrank4158
    @seanfrank4158 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow. That is terrible news. Easy mistake to make I think though. I wonder if someone out there will build a crate motor without all this AMF/DOD crap installed and we could swap directly into our GM trucks without going through all the rigmarole....

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety +2

      Hmmm sounds like a good business opportunity for us with a core charge 🤔

  • @scottsuzuki5537
    @scottsuzuki5537 Před rokem

    so were the heads for a 427 that you put on your motor? The combustion chambers were larger than your bore?

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před rokem

      It was for the 6.2 V8 while I have the 5.3, so the valves and diameter of the heads were too large and the valves hit the outside of the cylinder walls.

  • @austinalsobrook
    @austinalsobrook Před 2 lety +1

    Dont know if i missed it or what, but do you have to change the heads on this delete? Just wanted new heads or can you re use the old heads and just replace lifters/valves? Thanks for the vids and info. Looking into doing this on my 08 sierra with 5.3

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 2 lety +1

      You can reuse your old heads. I was just looking for more power while I was already in there.

    • @austinalsobrook
      @austinalsobrook Před 2 lety +1

      @@TheSundaeDrive thanks! Im just looking to delete the afm and hopefully keep the truck running for a long time and keep it stock or factory.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 2 lety +1

      Sounds like a good plan to me! The guys at gpi can help you spec everything out!

  • @grizzlystiks
    @grizzlystiks Před 3 lety +1

    Wow....That sucks just a simple mistake would cause all that bummer.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, it was a pain but we finally got it resolved!

  • @wkeil1981
    @wkeil1981 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Wow that’s fucking wild

  • @slowstone8509
    @slowstone8509 Před 3 lety

    The damage wouldn't have happened if you checked valve/piston clearance, which is an elementary and critical part of engine building/assembling. The company shouldn't owe you anything, because you should have known to check, but if they're helping you out, it's because they're a stand-up team!

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      Agreed for sure. Was not expecting them to help us out. Rookie mistake but luckily they took care of us :)

  • @GMbusa1
    @GMbusa1 Před 3 lety +2

    6.2 time!

  • @super20dan
    @super20dan Před rokem +2

    the only solutuon to this AFM debacukle is for EVERYBODY to stop buying these trucks period! then mabey GM will do something instead of desighning a system that lasts long enough to get tru warranty periods

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před rokem +1

      Sadly Dodge has a similar system with lots of issues and I think Ford just implemented a similar system.

  • @lmontano1
    @lmontano1 Před rokem +1

    So the only 6.2 parts that you had on that engine was the intake and the throttle body? The 6.2 heads were a mistake?

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před rokem

      Correct. I ordered 5.3 heads and they sent us 6.2 heads which we didn't realize until too late with how similar they look.

  • @91toyotapickup1
    @91toyotapickup1 Před 2 lety +1

    man dont feel bad, as a tech of 18 years. we just had a 2014 l83 die from a cheap ass lifter that literally exploded and blew the roller apart on a stage 1 TSP camshaft

    • @91toyotapickup1
      @91toyotapickup1 Před 2 lety

      for the record we bought "good parts" but got chinese junk instead be careful

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 2 lety

      aww man that stinks! It is so hard to know what you are getting these days even when you buy from a reputable source. Sometimes they get bad stuff and don't even know it until it blows up an engine. That is very frustrating for sure

  • @stevenstair1068
    @stevenstair1068 Před rokem +1

    I installed the Range Solution and now it stays in 4cyl and very happy now..

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před rokem

      4cyl mode only? Must be getting great gas mileage :)

    • @stevenstair1068
      @stevenstair1068 Před rokem +1

      @@TheSundaeDrive yes best I got with the 5.3 is 29.2... I also have one that stays in 8cly mode when I pull my camper and I get 12 without camper 22..

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před rokem

      Nice!

  • @Kyle-xt8ip
    @Kyle-xt8ip Před 3 lety

    Incompetence is rampant these days.

  • @Ozzy920
    @Ozzy920 Před 8 měsíci +1

    check your part numbers, very well noted, i will be replacing my trunions too

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 8 měsíci

      Absolutely

    • @Ozzy920
      @Ozzy920 Před 7 měsíci +1

      really like the content, currently rebuilding some ej25 and a 5.3, id like to grow my own
      channel to the level your at down here in el paso tx be safe out there @@TheSundaeDrive

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 7 měsíci

      Nice man! Lot of work but with it for sure

  • @themadmachinist8637
    @themadmachinist8637 Před 3 lety

    I'm curious how he clearance issue wasn't discovered before first start up? I always rotate the engine at every stage. Add a part rotate just to make sure. That way if you run into an issue you don't have to dig far for the culprit. I'm not trying to play holier than thou or anything, it just seems like an odd thing to overlook. Tough luck on the engine though. It always sucks to finish a build and have disaster strike. Hope the rebuild goes well man.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      I did rotate it by hand many times before putting it in but it wasn't fast enough to hear the issue and there surprisingly wasn't much resistance :(

    • @themadmachinist8637
      @themadmachinist8637 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheSundaeDrive Might have been just close enough that there was no interference until the lifters fully primed. Just curious. I work on these often, This is something I'll have to keep an eye out for. Just in case. Thanks for sharing man. You wouldn't believe how much youtube has expanded my knowledge base. It's a community service you guys are doing. I really appreciate the work you put into it.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      Glad it is helping man! Hopefully you never run into this issue!

    • @themadmachinist8637
      @themadmachinist8637 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheSundaeDrive knock on wood lol. Hope your rebuild goes smooth.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      Thanks! It is in progress

  • @sawfather06
    @sawfather06 Před 2 lety +1

    Wow the dealer screwed u that sucks

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 2 lety

      Yeah it was a bummer :( but they took care of it at least. Just a lot of lost time for sure

  • @bobbyhill1248
    @bobbyhill1248 Před rokem +1

    So done change heads got 😂😂😂

  • @Yeoj444
    @Yeoj444 Před rokem

    GPI: "WHOOPSIE POOPSIE" 🤷‍♂️

  • @speedcircuit
    @speedcircuit Před 3 lety +3

    So in other words, you're going to sleeve and bore the motor out to 102mm now?
    :D

  • @younqlove714
    @younqlove714 Před 3 lety

    I have a 2007 GMC Sierra 6.0 motor I have problem with it I get the code p0011 and I had already replace oil pump cam sensor crank sensor DOD play the actuator that goes on the timing cover and nothing that code make my transmission kick I already went through 5 transmission

    • @younqlove714
      @younqlove714 Před 3 lety

      And cam gear to I replace that to

    • @younqlove714
      @younqlove714 Před 3 lety

      Anyone know what can it be

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Před 3 lety

      Sorry to hear that :( hopefully someone has experienced this issue here and is able to help you out!

  • @kennethalbert4653
    @kennethalbert4653 Před rokem +1

    Pro Tip !!
    When you start a gas engine and it sounds like a diesel.
    Shut it off ! Do not drive it hoping it will go away !