The Beginning of the End for Deion Sanders in Colorado? | The Bill Simmons Podcast

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  • The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Van Lathan and Ryen Russillo to discuss if Deion Sanders’s coaching career in Colorado is coming to an end.
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  • @Nu_Marc
    @Nu_Marc Před 12 dny +42

    Coach Sanders @ Jackson State won 4 games in 2020, 11 games in 2021, and 12 games in 2022! Nearly 40 players transferred his first year at JSU. Would everyone please relax and let things play out😊

    • @kyserrylee6909
      @kyserrylee6909 Před 12 dny +8

      Totally different

    • @shaundrahammond3282
      @shaundrahammond3282 Před 12 dny +4

      There's a difference between Jackson State and Colorado. Smaller school programs are a whole different ball of wax than a major program.

    • @sheilaburns8977
      @sheilaburns8977 Před 12 dny +8

      Good grief, the season hasn't even started, and folks are "dying" for Coach Prime to fail. Sad.

    • @kyserrylee6909
      @kyserrylee6909 Před 12 dny

      @@sheilaburns8977 I mean when you shit on kids and argue with parents kid and act like an ass ppl are gonna want you to fail. You do realize he’s ruining his kids draft stock and he’s very lazy in recruiting

    • @kyserrylee6909
      @kyserrylee6909 Před 12 dny +8

      @@sheilaburns8977 he hides behind being a god guy but then bullies ppl when he doesn’t like what they have to say.

  • @MozartRice
    @MozartRice Před 12 dny +107

    This was a 2 year experiment to get Sheduer to showcase his skills and be a first round picks. Almost all of your freshman that you recruited have transferred. When you build a program, you develop the your young kids and build them for 3 years. This is not happening. All he is doing is swapping backups. If he was truly building a program he would have focused on his recruits and just filled in the blanks with transfers. But his son had 2 years to play so this was the focus: Showcase his son...

    • @stevenbugkiller1
      @stevenbugkiller1 Před 12 dny +11

      100 percent correct.

    • @benniecurtis7666
      @benniecurtis7666 Před 12 dny +17

      It’s spring ball of his 2nd season. Colorado being evaluated like its been 4 seasons of failure . Relax !

    • @nathanielsweet1117
      @nathanielsweet1117 Před 12 dny

      How he showing favoritism if the players that transferred played different positions stfu hating like a mother f all you haters an they transferred for money an personal issues skill wins every time 5 star no star I’m starting the best player.

    • @collectivethoughts1379
      @collectivethoughts1379 Před 12 dny

      you look like a failed athelete .. Deion played dual sports, has the love for every GM and scout out there its these fake media failed podcaster tring to get views and talk about someone they will never meet...like you. deion has scouts as friends he dosen't need to prove anything, what he proved is you can go to a HBCU and be found.. I don't know one coach who could or would used the monet in their pocket to put Jackson State together and put them in 5 star hotels during the pandemic..

    • @Chalk89
      @Chalk89 Před 12 dny

      You (talking in general, not meaning you literally) cannot have it both ways. You can't have this constant pro-CU coverage, games on ESPN and then turn around and say, 'it's only year two!!!' Deion has invited the cameras into his home and needless to say, a lot of dirt to be seen.​@@benniecurtis7666

  • @sportspodcasts4616
    @sportspodcasts4616 Před 12 dny +151

    Nothing destroys a locker room faster than favoritism. Deion did it to himself.

    • @mariopippin3008
      @mariopippin3008 Před 12 dny +11

      check out prime academy fiasco before Jackson state smh....i was NEVER on board bc how he treated the kids and his staff!! Washington post article,,

    • @MalakhiW
      @MalakhiW Před 12 dny +4

      he hasnt shown any favoritsm

    • @robertoatis9175
      @robertoatis9175 Před 12 dny +7

      None of you haters know anything. Quit believing everything you hear. None of you know anything about what's really going on in Colorado

    • @aroro13
      @aroro13 Před 12 dny

      @@mariopippin3008never heard about this thanks

    • @grvmbinoscott7163
      @grvmbinoscott7163 Před 12 dny

      ​​@@robertoatis9175enlighten US then my friend.

  • @thirstfen
    @thirstfen Před 13 dny +297

    There was no way Bill and Ryen could have had this conversation without bringing on a black guy 😂😂

    • @sdarcy274
      @sdarcy274 Před 12 dny +30

      sad huh

    • @terryallenthinks9421
      @terryallenthinks9421 Před 12 dny +41

      But he allows himself to be used this way….. some black people just give away tokens….. have a whole bunch…. Need a black yup they will be there lol 😂

    • @sdarcy274
      @sdarcy274 Před 12 dny +20

      @@terryallenthinks9421 there shouldnt be a need tho.

    • @philipmarette
      @philipmarette Před 12 dny +3

      @@sdarcy274 Skip Bayless' bad takes ruined it for all of us.

    • @sdarcy274
      @sdarcy274 Před 12 dny +9

      @@philipmarette haha. kendrick perkings hating on joker evens that out

  • @Mainstreamimages
    @Mainstreamimages Před 7 dny +4

    Keep going Colorado! 💪🏾 They still watching and talking!!!

  • @hotdangers
    @hotdangers Před 12 dny +143

    Saying you’re “about God” and then using your X account as a bully pulpit to chirp college kids is not consistent

    • @outlawtakeover
      @outlawtakeover Před 12 dny +6

      You didn't even do your research. Go find the tweets before having an opinion.

    • @hotdangers
      @hotdangers Před 12 dny +3

      @@outlawtakeover The app/website is called X not Twitter and they are posts not tweets. Be 100% accurate at all times before you make pedantic assumptions about me.

    • @outlawtakeover
      @outlawtakeover Před 12 dny +5

      @hotdangers go check tweets, then show me the bullying by deion sanders. Stop click baiting. The name of the application is irrelevant.

    • @hotdangers
      @hotdangers Před 12 dny +1

      @@outlawtakeover Admit that they’re called posts not Tweets and I’ll consider it

    • @markmittens
      @markmittens Před 12 dny +2

      100 percent

  • @Palayon
    @Palayon Před 12 dny +25

    Van Latham doesn’t know anything about football 😂🤣🤣

  • @TopfliteRoadsideAssistianceAtl

    They will be eating crow like a mf

    • @petep5207
      @petep5207 Před 3 dny

      Elaborate. Are you claiming THIS season will be a success?

    • @BigQuis99
      @BigQuis99 Před dnem

      Theyll be in boulder kissing ass mid season

  • @dontes5009
    @dontes5009 Před 9 dny +6

    Van doesn't even know what an I-formation is. Yet he can say a program is lost? "Losing transfer portal guys" They got better players coming in than those that left. The misinformation is the reason I stopped watching mainstream TV

  • @jason5265
    @jason5265 Před 12 dny +26

    The inability to coach up the offensive line in 2023 was humiliating. Prime’s lack of understanding about the importance of the run game, was/is embarrassing

    • @arthasmenethil4297
      @arthasmenethil4297 Před 12 dny +10

      The run game doesn’t pump up his boys stats

    • @marcusburnett2412
      @marcusburnett2412 Před 12 dny +3

      Wasn't it the job of his Oline coach to coach up the line. I mean that is why the oline coach was getting paid correct.

    • @RussCR5187
      @RussCR5187 Před 12 dny +3

      There's only so far you can coach an inferior player. The trenches simply didn't have the talent last year.

    • @coreyhansen9711
      @coreyhansen9711 Před 12 dny +3

      You're lack of understanding how garbage the players were on his OL is far more embarrassing..
      None of those dudes are getting drafted and that's not Deion's fault. They just ain't got what it takes.

    • @arthasmenethil4297
      @arthasmenethil4297 Před 12 dny +5

      @@coreyhansen9711 a college coach job is to recruit. He literally hasn’t done that. Which is malpractice. All he cares about is pumping up his son.

  • @alexlol3260
    @alexlol3260 Před 12 dny +36

    Bill didn’t get the memo 😢

  • @c.j.4620
    @c.j.4620 Před 13 dny +46

    Where's Bill's hat?
    If this were the Magnificent 7, Bill would be the first to die.

  • @tlpsportsclub
    @tlpsportsclub Před 12 dny +5

    Van is an Oscar Winner, salute. Now! what happens when they win in the Big12?

  • @gobucs7870
    @gobucs7870 Před 11 dny +4

    How does guy in middle know what you can or can't do in today's College game..Never had unlimited transfers before...Well I've followed Deion and he hasn't cared what others say and i like that..

  • @awesomesque77
    @awesomesque77 Před 12 dny +14

    I was born and raised in Boulder, so I have been following the team for a long time.
    There are criticism of Deion that are completely legitimate, but I didn't hear any of them in this segment. Van is acting like Colorado got killed in conference last year, and that's just not true. They lost 42-6 to Oregon and 56-14 to Washington State. Other than that, every game was within one score. Compare that to the previous year when they went 1-11 with an AVERAGE margin of defeat of 30 POINTS!
    Yes, it's messy. And yes, I would've loved to see them win some of those close games (the Stanford loss hurt the worst), but I can't tell you how much nicer it is to see a team go and be competitive rather than be one of the worst teams in the entire country. The kids that were on the team before he came in had to transfer out mainly because they were just bad at football. If you measure his tenure based solely on wins and losses, he has clearly been a massive success. If you measure his tenure on attention and revenue generation, you could argue he's the best hire in college football coaching history.
    Now, do I think he'll leave for greener pastures when his kid gets drafted to the NFL? Absolutely I do, and then the team will be back to square one.

    • @billgoldstein9495
      @billgoldstein9495 Před 6 dny +1

      He’s not leaving!!!9

    • @reecec8490
      @reecec8490 Před 5 dny

      You mean -1 😂

    • @rollsroyce2627
      @rollsroyce2627 Před 3 dny

      Then you must nit really be in tune with Colorado..because Deion has stated on many occasions that he isnt leaving and he doesn't have any desire to ever coach in the NFL..smh😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Boomhauersdad
      @Boomhauersdad Před dnem +1

      Don’t bother. It’s easier for people to hate people like Deion due to their own insecurities like Prime says

    • @rollsroyce2627
      @rollsroyce2627 Před dnem

      @@Boomhauersdad 🎯

  • @csmoke2k7
    @csmoke2k7 Před 12 dny +29

    Deion just a used car salesman. Once his son get drafted he'll be done with coaching.
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    • @mariopippin3008
      @mariopippin3008 Před 12 dny +4

      check out prime academy fiasco before Jackson state smh....i was NEVER on board bc how he treated the kids and his staff!! Washington post article..

  • @CosmicGrind
    @CosmicGrind Před 12 dny +17

    As long as his son gets his 1st round selection that's all he cares about. He's not hiding this fact at all and will leave once his son goes to the NFL

  • @jamesstanford7603
    @jamesstanford7603 Před 12 dny +4

    Deion is & always has been about Deion. He is there to protect & enable his overrated sons...His claims to be a Christian are the worst of all as I read my Bible...But ONLY the Lord knows...

  • @Muddboyz000
    @Muddboyz000 Před 12 dny +5

    There is no rule stating that you cannot comment back to someone that is commenting about your School and they retaliate by doing the same thing and it rubs you the wrong way so what. if someone tried to put a bad image on my name, I would defend myself if you’re feelings get hurt maybe you shouldn’t speak bad on someone’s name. As one of the best football players, no one can comment on how he go by things. He is already one of the best football players. his son will be in the first round Travis also. the player that chose to jump in the portal was a mid average player that’s the truth.most people don’t like the truth so they find things to more upset them. Some people expect for people to talk about them and not to say anything back. someone told me you can’t get upset because someone didn’t do something that you would have done. I will listen to a Hall of Fame player and a first round draft pick before an average player. If your feelings get hurt, or you don’t have enough confidence maybe you’re in the wrong sport

  • @MrGreyGhost
    @MrGreyGhost Před 12 dny +13

    Deion's been there ONE F--KING YEAR and these 3 non-coaches are killing him

  • @RazzyDreads
    @RazzyDreads Před 12 dny +5

    EVERYONE IS LOSING PPL IN THE PORTAL. This is the new age in college football. Since when are walk ons big to talk about in a program

  • @DaMixWizard
    @DaMixWizard Před 12 dny +4

    I'm looking at Colorado Buffaloes 2024 schedule, and I see them going 2-10, 3-9 or if they're lucky... 4-8😢. They will catch a beatdown almost every game.
    You will have shows like Undisputed on Colorado campus interviewing Deion again. An that will lit that fire 🔥 in other teams and hype them up to destroy them.
    Listen to what I'm saying yall, Deion and the Colorado Buffaloes will have a more disappointing season this year than last year. They will finish 2-10 or 3-9😮

  • @brucecoleman6917
    @brucecoleman6917 Před 12 dny +5

    How can it be the beginning of the end of coach prime in Colorado and the only ppl hating on him is everyone but ppl in Colorado they loved Deion . He is doing things his way and these media ppl don’t like it. I mean every school has ppl leaving big whop but ppl leave Colorado it’s national news like really. Then ppl say he did all of this in two years that to much turn over well this is a different times kids can transfer as they please meaning if they ain’t playing they leaving that not his fault coach already said he ain’t begging a kid to stay

  • @andresparry8104
    @andresparry8104 Před 12 dny +31

    TBH, Deion Sanders comes off as the rich man’s Lavar Ball the more I listen to him. Obviously Deion is an uniquely accomplished athlete and his Bravado has more of a basis in reality, but the rhetoric, scandal ridden teams/leagues/schools built around your progeny, and the mid-game merchandising seem like a record I’ve definitely heard before.

    • @jamesstanford7603
      @jamesstanford7603 Před 12 dny +3

      Good comparison...

    • @jakeMontejo3272
      @jakeMontejo3272 Před 11 dny +1

      Great point. To me, he comes off as a preacher who’s got a part time job as a HC.

    • @PillCosby305
      @PillCosby305 Před 10 dny +1

      That’s why they call him “Coach Jive”🤭

  • @88smjls
    @88smjls Před 12 dny +12

    Bill- you watch undisputed? 😂😂😂😂 shots fired lol

  • @chadcappadona8520
    @chadcappadona8520 Před 8 dny +2

    Its all about deion and that will never change

  • @BigginsInAmerica
    @BigginsInAmerica Před 12 dny +17

    Why does media act like they didn't know Deion was planning on leaving as soon as his sons went to the NFL? What's crazy is a college football program hired a guy just so he could be nepotistic for 2 years and then leave.

    • @myronsanders4563
      @myronsanders4563 Před 9 dny +3

      Desperation does do that

    • @EyeOfTheWatcher
      @EyeOfTheWatcher Před 2 dny

      it helped their bottom line for the school and when Prime is gone, they can hire a builder.

  • @Talk2AllTV
    @Talk2AllTV Před 12 dny +4

    It’s clear yall don’t know shit about the caliber of guys they’ve brought in...hell yall don’t know about the guys that left. 😂 Discussing fake headlines is not journalism. Do some research.

  • @blaketindle4703
    @blaketindle4703 Před 12 dny +13

    “Do you believe?”
    “It’s not my job to believe.”
    Perfectly stated Ryen!💯

  • @christineheaden7662
    @christineheaden7662 Před 12 dny +9

    Van R U serious?

  • @anthonymendez7199
    @anthonymendez7199 Před 8 dny +1

    Most of the Colorado fans are just looking at Deon's popularity his resume as a coach is not proven, but the fans and Deon himself must remember the players are the stars and not the coaches.

  • @dwaynelee1789
    @dwaynelee1789 Před 12 dny +6

    Great discussion the Ringer is always on point. Deion has to produce this year with wins bottom line as you all stated. Hopefully the program will turn around.

  • @Reddickaaron
    @Reddickaaron Před 12 dny +9

    At Colorado if you leave you didn’t want to compete yet there bringing in a whole roster that didn’t want to
    Compete at their previous school

  • @william7286
    @william7286 Před 12 dny +23

    My issue with Dion at Colorado is that his entire approach is so dramatically different to that from his previous stent at Jackson State. It’s almost like he got the Colorado job because of what he did at Jackson State, as well as his profile - but as soon as he got to Colorado, he completely changed his coaching and management style. If memory serves, he didn’t turn over the roster at Jackson State nearly to the extent, nor was he dependent on the portal over traditional recruiting and player development. I think there was more stability with the coaching staff, too. From an outsiders perspective, it looks a lot like he lacked the confidence to apply what made him successful at an FCS program while now on the main stage of a power five job.

    • @mariopippin3008
      @mariopippin3008 Před 12 dny +5

      check out prime academy fiasco before Jackson state smh....i was NEVER on board bc how he treated the kids and his staff!! Washington post article..

    • @hotdangers
      @hotdangers Před 12 dny +5

      I kind of think it’s the opposite. I don’t think he turned the roster over as much in the second year at JSU because the first year he got a large amount of FBS players to transfer down to FCS schools that probably didn’t need to go that far down. His advantage at JSU was he got the same level of portal players he’s getting now but then he was able to beat up on FCS teams with them so things like chemistry and continuity didn’t matter. He learned the wrong lessons from that and assumed he could jump a level and use the exact same recipe to win FBS games.

    • @hotdangers
      @hotdangers Před 12 dny

      @@mariopippin3008 💯💯💯 He’s been scamming people and taking advantage of educational institutions for his own gain long before Colorado

    • @ObiAmajoyiSrMD
      @ObiAmajoyiSrMD Před 12 dny +3

      You were bamboozled into believing that Deion has been a head coach for even a single day of his life up to this point. Even at jackson state, Deion was not coaching football or managing a group of young men. This fact is even more magnified now at Colorado. He doesn’t call plays. He doesn’t make any decisions. He is not deciding on personnel or game plan. The other coaches do all the coaching. He is managing an image. It’s become a spectacle now

    • @outlawtakeover
      @outlawtakeover Před 12 dny +2

      This is sarcastic he actually got rid of the roster after his 4-3 season at Jackson State.

  • @sstewart44
    @sstewart44 Před 12 dny +8

    Shadeur is their identity! As long as he gets his stats, that's all that matters around Colorado this year

    • @blaketindle4703
      @blaketindle4703 Před 12 dny +4

      Yep getting HIS son drafted high is Deion’s only priority!

    • @sstewart44
      @sstewart44 Před 12 dny

      @@blaketindle4703 bet!

  • @snuffles7314
    @snuffles7314 Před 12 dny +4

    So the same media who were trying to make Prime the next Saban are now saying it’s over, even though literally no college footballs has been played since last year and their main criticism is everyone rushed to judgement on Prime? Da F? Pot, meet kettle….

  • @MakingMovesMajor
    @MakingMovesMajor Před 12 dny +4

    I actually think Prime is a good coach but he's hindered by the fact he's also the quarterback's Dad. He will be much better next season.

  • @acewalker.3915
    @acewalker.3915 Před 12 dny +15

    The "do you believe" comment was strange

    • @jakeMontejo3272
      @jakeMontejo3272 Před 11 dny +1

      He was emotional after that game, when you win that big you’re on a high. Deion still behaves like a player at his pressers and not like a HC, also see X fiasco. The Sabans, Smarts, of the world ignore and don’t have time for that stuff, seems Sanders does.

  • @richardrutherford5076
    @richardrutherford5076 Před 12 dny +2

    You guys are making money off of Dion about bashing him. Congratulations. You found a house boy to do your bidding

  • @johnhunter8802
    @johnhunter8802 Před 11 dny +1

    "Deion is not a coach. He's a team mom with a golden whistle" - Uncle Lou

  • @Lowkeyy407
    @Lowkeyy407 Před 12 dny +2

    They clearly have no idea on what they’re talking about. They literally lost NOTHING in the portal. I take that back they lost one guy with substance and thats Dylan Edwards. Colorado has improved in every position except LB. They beefed up the OL & DL in a major way. Now they just needed depth in those positions which they pretty much covered with the big recruiting weekend last week.

    • @bradfordmitchell3135
      @bradfordmitchell3135 Před 10 dny

      They got worse at coaching and it don't matter if they don't run the ball. Bowl game is more likely but everything points to deion bouncing

  • @johnnytyler5685
    @johnnytyler5685 Před 8 dny +12

    We judged Deion based on the content of his character and we were ALL called the "Big R" word for it when this was always laughably obvious to ANYONE with even a shred of common sense. Deion is a hustler. It is ALWAYS about him and only him. He has literally been that way from the second he had the national spotlight put on him.
    And just to be clear, having kids who aren't actually talented enough to be on the team transfer off of the team and then having those kids react negatively to how they were treated IS NOT even the problem here. That's not even the red flag. As was said in this clip, finding disgruntled former college players from ANY program is not difficult to do. The difference is that Nick Saban never went to the media and trash-talked those former players after they were gone...NO MATTER WHAT THOSE PLAYERS SAID ABOUT HIM OR THE PROGRAM! You never saw Urban Meyer or any of the all-time-great college coaches EVER do something that trashy.
    That is because those great men are intelligent enough to understand that the glory comes from the success their programs have over an extended period of time. Nobody would want to hear Urban Meyer or Nick Saban talk about college football on TV if their programs finished with four wins every year and they didn't have championship rings on their fingers. Those coaches achieved fame and fortune BASED ON THEIR COACHING ABILITIES! Not their self-promotion abilities. Guys like Saban don't even WANT to talk to the media. Deion wants an entire media circus around him every time he opens his mouth.
    Deion is all about Deion. About drawing attention to Deion. About gaining more fame for Deion. And that is even true when it comes to his own son. He wants to be able to brag that HE turned his son into a high NFL draft pick and a good NFL player. It's not just about his son having success...it's about being able to take THE CREDIT for his son having success. He literally could not care less about any other kid on that team. Coaches like Saban, Meyer, etc, want success for ALL of their players. Deion wants success for his son, and whatever happens to the rest of the kids on his team isn't his problem. That's the difference.

  • @antonioollison5124
    @antonioollison5124 Před 12 dny +6

    Deion is creating his own lane in CFB. He will bring success to Colorado. Stay tuned for more recruits and more wins.

    • @EyeOfTheWatcher
      @EyeOfTheWatcher Před 2 dny

      Financial success yes, on the field is to be determine.

  • @donovanphelan9878
    @donovanphelan9878 Před 12 dny +2

    Deion was one of my fave players as a kid. He was cool, versatile and had great shoes. He also seems like a great dad. The coach prime /analyst/social media guy doesn’t do it for me. Can he coach? He seems like an And-1 mixtape coach. Just roll out the ball and get it.

    • @EyeOfTheWatcher
      @EyeOfTheWatcher Před 2 dny +1

      Coach Prime has done some suspect stuff outside of football but has been able to cover most of the stuff up from the general public. Prime Academy, domestic abuse claims, his testimony under oath for the situation his 2nd son was in, and list goes on. With CU, he is in conference that has schools that have the same or more resources than him and he has not learned that the formula he used at JSU will not work for regular season success. People tend to forget Coach Prime lost to a 6-5 SCSU in bowl game.

  • @stoneymomoney
    @stoneymomoney Před 12 dny +2

    So last year the first year right ok I thought so and this year will be the 2nd right ok I thought so saying we don’t know what they have as a team doesn’t mean he don’t know what he doing or he don’t know what it takes to be a coach go look at every school transfer portal numbers they all have guys that have left so because Colorado has guy in the transfer portal and Deion is the coach is the only reason yall sitting here making content on it he shouldn’t say n do a lot that’s true but let’s not act as if that’s not the person you are a fan of who been very outspoken since the 80s

    • @aaroncarl2493
      @aaroncarl2493 Před 5 dny

      Yeah expect other schools that have players leaving actually have a foundation ...Deon is running Colorado like a juco team hoping he can get some cast offs from other power 5 programs that couldn't actually start or have an impact and try and find lightning in a bottle most likely it won't work ...

  • @TheeDubWill
    @TheeDubWill Před 12 dny +3

    Faced with a 20-year history of losing and an administration considering eliminating the football program, Rick George hired the only man that he knew could save Colorado from its longstanding problems--Deion "Coach Prime" Sanders. It took courage for George to hire Prime, but "desperate times call for desperate measures." Rick George did what he had to, and hired Prime. So far, The Buffs are ahead of schedule going into year 2 of the rebuild. A year where the Buffs may win at least twice as many games as they did the previous year. So, from a football stand-point, things are looking good in Boulder. However, change is messy; and, radical change is radically messy. The question remains; will George have the courage to stand by Prime as very powerful forces in CFB try to destroy him?

    • @solacenmute4840
      @solacenmute4840 Před 12 dny +1

      I think he will....most of the hate is from people that listen to other people talk and repeat what they say he literally just made it sound like colorado got blew out every game, they had a chance to win all but a couple with a brand new team lack of depth terrible trenches and full of injuries in the 1st yr of turning around the worst team in football. If they just improve the trenches they win 8 games and the pac 12 was the toughest conference in football last year. With all the so called controversy how are they still signing and have replaced everything they loss in just a few weeks lol talking heads do 0 research it seems.

    • @rg7656
      @rg7656 Před 9 dny

      @@solacenmute4840 they had close games with some garbage teams and the other close games were only made close in garbage time after the other teams had put subs in when the outcome was well decided. Get real. did you even watch those games? If you did then you should understand the term "the game was not as close as the final score". He might do good this year, who knows. Unlikely but who knows. But stop promoting last year like it was better than it really was and better than he said it was after he changed his slogan from "we coming" to "we here" after the first game.

    • @solacenmute4840
      @solacenmute4840 Před 9 dny

      @rg7656 you a liar they got blown out twice and usc still had in their starters stop the bs every game other than 2 they had a chance to win and you left out Colorados depth was terrible and they had a lot of injuries they. watch actual games and stop just talking they were 4 and 8 but there is a story as to why. on every single team there's a story. write someone else with your lies teams don't take out their starters scoring in the 20s bozo Oregon Washington are the only 2 that had enough to take out starters another clown trying to sound smart when he didn't watch 28 to 16 is not a blowout genius and Caleb Williams and there starters played the entire game he was in victory formation with a 7 point lead after an onside kick because they only scored 14 in the second half.The buffs were not good don't mean you have to lie about what actually happened.

  • @jazzy5389
    @jazzy5389 Před 12 dny +2

    Well why don't they talk about the 41 players that went into the portal only 15 of them have teams 26 is still waiting 🤔 wonder why?

  • @yyuguy
    @yyuguy Před 12 dny +10

    Ya’ll are over analyzing this. Deon is going to be fine, the team is much better with him!

  • @hjackson1678
    @hjackson1678 Před 7 dny +1

    Deion Sanders this year needs to just get into a bowl game 6 wins i feel they can do it.

  • @garrypeek897
    @garrypeek897 Před 12 dny +5

    They got a look at me coach.

  • @andrewgilmore1443
    @andrewgilmore1443 Před 13 dny +48

    Like the guys said, I wanted Deion to succeed because it was fun. But, he’s conducted himself like a total jerk. Completely favoring his sons and mistreating players on the way out. No class whatsoever.

    • @SomeChink
      @SomeChink Před 13 dny +1

      He speaks his mind far too much, so little impulse control

    • @JohnWest-dm4qb
      @JohnWest-dm4qb Před 12 dny +7

      ​@@SomeChink Not surprising

    • @Jack-jx6ln
      @Jack-jx6ln Před 12 dny +11

      I hated how the media play Deion up some type of revolutionary thinker. He wasn't doing anything that hadn't been done before but was praised like a Messiah. His big ego got even bigger

    • @mariopippin3008
      @mariopippin3008 Před 12 dny

      check out prime academy fiasco before Jackson state smh....i was NEVER on board bc how he treated the kids and his staff!

    • @karumehickman
      @karumehickman Před 12 dny +2

      who did he favor his sons over?

  • @charlesease6971
    @charlesease6971 Před 11 dny +1

    dieon never said his team would be unbeatable but they trying paint that picture bcz of his self belief it's obvious they want him to be humble ,crazy!

    • @rg7656
      @rg7656 Před 9 dny

      Well, he did say that "we coming" when he first got there and then changed it to "we not coming anymore, we here" after the first game. Sooooo there's that. Kinda did this to himself.

  • @mariopippin3008
    @mariopippin3008 Před 12 dny +5

    repost
    check out prime academy fiasco before Jackson state smh....i was NEVER on board bc how he treated the kids and his staff!! Washington post article smhh

    • @hugoluna284
      @hugoluna284 Před 12 dny +2

      So, let me get this straight, what you're saying is that people should check out the prime academy fiasco?

  • @jamalj1
    @jamalj1 Před 12 dny +2

    There just talking they haven’t broken down the roster they only can name 3 players they have no idea this team is way better then last year they will win 8 or more games this year and have a good future there going to keep building but national media just says whatever

  • @user-ls7gw1th2u
    @user-ls7gw1th2u Před 8 dny +2

    Wow!, really Van😡

  • @petep5207
    @petep5207 Před 3 dny

    DEION PRE-SEASON: "My luggage is Louieee.....WE HEREEEEEEE !!!!!"
    DEION'S TEAM POST-SEASON: "Are we there yet ????"

  • @dochilliard2434
    @dochilliard2434 Před 4 dny +1

    Now I know why TMZ let you go. You shoulda begged them to stay.

  • @Drummajortsu
    @Drummajortsu Před 12 dny +1

    I know Ryan made Bill get into this topic, Bill doesn’t even know when college football starts or ends. Ryan made sure to ask Bill to have Van on.

  • @Palayon
    @Palayon Před 12 dny +11

    Colorado has two 10 win seasons since 2001. 16 years finishing .500 or less… the 90s glory days of Kordell Stewart, Brian Westbrook, Rashan Salaam, Deon Figures, etc are loooong gone. Colorado has had no cache for the past 20-30 years. They haven’t gotten this much attention in God knows how long. Deion is safe. They’re generating money and attention. That’s all that matters to them currently. And, sports has always been about favoritism…. Deion is just doing what most coaches and leaders are afraid to do. He is, who he is

    • @mxhughes
      @mxhughes Před 12 dny +7

      A grown ass man talking down on young men he was suppose to positively influence is sucka behavior ain't no excuse for it

    • @LABoyko
      @LABoyko Před 12 dny +4

      @Palayon. The Westbrook at CU was Michael.

    • @Palayon
      @Palayon Před 12 dny +3

      Life doesn’t work like that. They got a reality check that they much deservedly needed. 1-11 definitely wasn’t going to be well received and get pats on the back from Deion. Young people need a reality check. The world doesn’t owe us and grace or kindness. That’s not real at all. Either man up or catch the sideline

    • @Palayon
      @Palayon Před 12 dny

      Life doesn’t work like that. They got a reality check that they much deservedly needed. 1-11 definitely wasn’t going to be well received and get pats on the back from Deion. Young people need a reality check. The world doesn’t owe us and grace or kindness. That’s not real at all. Either man up or catch the sideline

    • @Riles3152
      @Riles3152 Před 12 dny +1

      Yea that sounds great, but the money and attention was generated through hype and the hot little start they had to begin last season. As soon as they were exposed by Oregon and proved to everyone how mid and below mid they actually were the whole time, all of that began to change. Did you see the picture of the crowd attendance for there spring game this year, vs last year? Based on the picture shown this year, you tell me if the money and attention is on the same level as it was a year ago? This whole Deion Colorado experience is looking more and more like smoke and mirrors than a substantial impact.

  • @USC9210
    @USC9210 Před 14 hodinami

    Can not blame "learning on the job." Basic manners (There are plenty of new coaches each of the years since Twitter came into existence, none of them adults beefed with adolescents) should have prevented this mess.

  • @justinblack1922
    @justinblack1922 Před 11 dny

    As you can see from my prior reply, I really did have something to get off my chest so I want to thank everyone for listening😂😂

  • @adeyinkaeniayedun9420
    @adeyinkaeniayedun9420 Před 12 dny

    I think people have a hard time understanding the type of home Colorado was in a program: They are behind UTAH for prestige in the last 25 years. They were worse off than NEBRASKA. They were 1-11 with an average loss in the Pac-12 of 30 points. Deion going there is GREAT for the program.
    At this point, I expect them to be probably 6-6 at best this upcoming year. Again, this is with 2 guys viewed as 1st round guys conservatively. Their depth is still an issue and will rear is head during the season. Maybe he stays, maybe he leaves but Colorado football is in a much better place regardless. I think they have a good chance to be viable in the Big-12 (to me they're 1 of the winners in the conference realignment).

  • @ReppinCTandATL
    @ReppinCTandATL Před 12 dny +6

    Van, you’re doing what you accuse Acho of doing. Shame on you.

  • @Ron-vo1fx
    @Ron-vo1fx Před 11 dny +1

    Now talk about Georgia and their portal bruh!, how many kid's are leaving? They never talk about that.

  • @philtjr
    @philtjr Před 12 dny +8

    I listened intently to this entire conversation, and it appears that there is destain because of how norms are being challenged. However, none of the panelists seem to have a true understanding of how barriers are broken, especially in football. As someone who has successfully overcome obstacles and broken barriers as a businessperson, I would advise the panel to adopt a wait-and-see approach regarding Coach Prime. If the team succeeds and has a winning season, what could you say to justify your previous criticisms? How would you explain the discrepancy between your predictions and the team's performance?
    I understand that you're in the business of generating clicks and profits, which is perfectly reasonable. However, for those of us observing from the sidelines, we're in a wait-and-see mode after this season. If the Deion leads the team to a successful year, it will significantly diminish the credibility of the opinions expressed on this panel about his coaching abilities and ability to change a culture within a power five football program. Deion has been a winner all of his life and I would NEVER bet against him.

    • @Plainsman89
      @Plainsman89 Před 12 dny +1

      Different standards for different people. He's supposed to win a National Championship in his first season after the team went 1-11 the previous season. SMH..

    • @kyserrylee6909
      @kyserrylee6909 Před 12 dny +2

      Maybe it’s cuz he’s too busy on twitter and the fact that he’s lazy at recruiting

    • @philtjr
      @philtjr Před 12 dny

      @@kyserrylee6909

    • @bradfordmitchell3135
      @bradfordmitchell3135 Před 11 dny +2

      Deion never won at Florida state

    • @philtjr
      @philtjr Před 11 dny

      @@bradfordmitchell3135 Lol, so getting the Gold Jacket means nothing to you, right and the highest paid drafted DB out of Florida State?

  • @tylersmith7430
    @tylersmith7430 Před 22 hodinami

    Everyone saying chill it’s been one year.. Deion came in saying he had designer luggage and he’s here to change things now. He didn’t say oh in 2 years we’ll be good he came in putting more pressure on the team so don’t try to backtrack his comments now.

  • @elsuenosalvadoreno
    @elsuenosalvadoreno Před 12 dny +1

    FR Van kept it 100

  • @carltonanderson9277
    @carltonanderson9277 Před 5 dny +1

    Jealousy is a disease get some help 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

  • @dennisclarke6456
    @dennisclarke6456 Před 12 dny

    What was Bill talking about ? @9:54

  • @playazcircle8486
    @playazcircle8486 Před 5 dny

    He did some of the same similar things at JSU during the 2 years he was there. Someone should interview some of his former JSU players. The God & family thing was a major topic at JSU. JSU did finish 7-4 with a depleted team, and all new coaches & trainers. Go 🐅

  • @SlipreePug
    @SlipreePug Před 12 dny

    Colorado gave their program to Deion and his boys. When they're gone Colorado fans will look around and see the only thing that's changed is the crap they've always been standing in is to their waist and not their knees.

  • @hollywood2606
    @hollywood2606 Před 12 dny +1

    coach prime been the one year, damn can the man not get 4 or five years like the other white below average coaches.

  • @80teg
    @80teg Před 12 dny +1

    Bill not wearing a hat -- doin his best to remind everyone he's an only child.

  • @toddgoza3522
    @toddgoza3522 Před 7 dny +2

    Hating ass van, I haven’t listened to him since he snapped on Michael Rapp!

  • @outlawtakeover
    @outlawtakeover Před 12 dny +7

    Using a black guy to speak sports but hasnt watched how sanders did the same thing at jackson state. I love the copout of i love deion sanders blah blah

    • @markmittens
      @markmittens Před 12 dny +1

      How do you know what he saw him do at Jackson state?

  • @TheBoyAustin
    @TheBoyAustin Před 4 dny

    Damn I didn’t know Van was on this show 🔥

  • @thatswhoibe1364
    @thatswhoibe1364 Před 5 dny

    When you come in trying to break kids, KIDS? Youre intentions are never from the HEART!!!....He came in terrifying them and then expect them to perform. Why many have left...and won't go!!

  • @LoveAllTrustNone
    @LoveAllTrustNone Před 12 dny +2

    Skip Bayless catching strays 😂

  • @petep5207
    @petep5207 Před 3 dny

    The quickest way to build--and lose--a toxic locker room, is to coach your son on the team.

  • @alexlol3260
    @alexlol3260 Před 12 dny +8

    Ryens hat is on point 🤝💯🤠

  • @parris145
    @parris145 Před 6 dny

    Let's be honest here, this was always about getting Sheduer to the NFL. Once that is done Deion is good.

  • @anthonyjefferson3941
    @anthonyjefferson3941 Před 5 dny

    It is college football how long it takes to build a program .See what he said discredit TCU win because it wasn't the same team that went to National Champion game ( different players different team) . But Deion took 1-11 team to 4-8 with a different team. A win is a win

  • @broncobilly4029
    @broncobilly4029 Před 12 dny +1

    I'm a CU/Deion fan. They weren't as good or as bad as people said last year. They've had turmoil, but they also have talent and real coaches. If they execute sound game plans (e.g., run the ball, and stop the run), they can win more than they lose. If Shedeur is a #1 pick, then they should win 8+ games. Anything short of that would be a disappointment.

    • @ColonelAngus2
      @ColonelAngus2 Před 12 dny

      They're not winning 8. They'll be 2-2 after four games

    • @broncobilly4029
      @broncobilly4029 Před 12 dny

      ​@@ColonelAngus2 I said it'd be a disappointment if they don't win 8. They have a great QB, a game breaker (Travis H), and virtually every other projected starter, started for a D1 program last year. Their expectations should be high. If they don't succeed, they will deserve criticism, and they will get it.

    • @ColonelAngus2
      @ColonelAngus2 Před 12 dny +1

      @@broncobilly4029 they could win 8, I just don't understand where this confidence comes from. They didn't make enough upgrades from last year's 4-8 team to give me confidence. And their 4 wins: surprised a bad TCU team, beat Nebraska but their QB was the worst I've ever seen in major CFB. Had to go to OT to beat a bad CSU team. And they beat ASU on the road, which was a good win.
      So that Colorado team could have easily been 2-10. Yet their fans say anything less than 8 wins is a disappointment? I don't see it

  • @chrisgamlin1987
    @chrisgamlin1987 Před 12 dny +1

    Bro. You selling out like that? WOW.

  • @UntouchaBLU_1914
    @UntouchaBLU_1914 Před 8 dny +4

    Since when did the guy from TMZ become this CFB guru??? Shouldn’t he be investigating Justin Bieber or something🙄

    • @christopherneal6568
      @christopherneal6568 Před 13 hodinami

      He’s a well rounded brother. Are you saying he doesn’t have the right to speak in this space ? He got fired from TMZ 5 years ago he’s moved on

    • @UntouchaBLU_1914
      @UntouchaBLU_1914 Před 13 hodinami

      @@christopherneal6568 I would never say that he or anyone doesn’t have the right to speak or state their opinions. I’ve just never seen him speaking in a sports capacity. It’s always been in the celeb gossip or the political arena as his area of expertise. When I initially watched it felt strange seeing him talking about sports lol that’s all.

  • @anthonyhilton1709
    @anthonyhilton1709 Před 12 dny +1

    It's obvious you all don't know what your talking about. Before you start talking about that team do your research .

  • @iamcedricpowell8051
    @iamcedricpowell8051 Před 4 dny

    Great breakdown. I was on the Deon train. And I still like him and the team. But...There are a lot of big questions and concerns

  • @davidlarsen-tj4tn
    @davidlarsen-tj4tn Před 10 dny

    That first game vs TCU I was totally into the hype during and after the game. Then it turned when the overhype started and I was enjoying their beat downs.

  • @gmeshell7
    @gmeshell7 Před 9 dny

    It has challenged college football and the older coaches are going to take him on. They are recruiting his players who are also interested in getting into the NFL. So with open portals, they are moving for stats. No one is building a team, it’s come as you are for the win.

  • @SuperMogul
    @SuperMogul Před 12 dny +4

    What gets me is, the most of the people that criticize Prime. Haven't played football or Coached football. So there opinion isn't valid!

    • @jakeMontejo3272
      @jakeMontejo3272 Před 11 dny

      This is the YT comment section. It’s literally on here to give your opinion. If you only want to listen to pros and not Joes - there’s shows on ESPN and Fox for that.

    • @rg7656
      @rg7656 Před 9 dny

      So you have to have done something to criticize it or critique it? That's a dumb position to take. I have never made a movie but I most certainly can criticize a bad movie. I have never made a song before but I most certainly can criticize a song like I suspect you have most certainly done in your life. And since most of of the Colorado fan base upset with Prime's criticisms are black I am sure they probably hate Donal Trump ( I dont like him either btw), I am pretty sure none of them have been President of the United States and I am sure they criticize him and I would be willing to bet my life on that. So by your logic, none of the above scenarios are legit because the people doing the criticism cant do what they are criticizing. You see how stupid that sounds. And why is that always the go to? Seems very intellectually lazy. You cant do what he does so who are you to question it. Many of the Sports analyst cant do what they commentate on.

  • @Boomhauersdad
    @Boomhauersdad Před dnem

    It’s a business to Deion and his son is the asset

  • @johngaltjkt62
    @johngaltjkt62 Před 12 dny +1

    They're going to win maybe four games in 2024.

  • @lorenzomoore3994
    @lorenzomoore3994 Před 9 dny +1

    This a hit piece on coach prime lol.
    If I hear another person talk about players are leaving I’ll go crazy.
    This is the transfer portal area kids are leaving every program in America.
    Alabama lost a lot of there starters.
    Plus they never talk about the level of skill coach prime has brought to that program smh.

    • @rg7656
      @rg7656 Před 9 dny

      Are you seriously comparing it to Alabama? This let's me know you have no business commenting on this. Players left Alabama because the G.O.A.T. coach retired. The man who they came there to play for and has a proven track record of winning on the highest stage and sending kids to the N.F.L. This is not the same. And you can have all the "skill" you want but if you cant coach it up then it matters not. Just look at all of the top 3 recruiting classes that Texas A&M had over the last few years. Doesnt mean nothing if you cant coach them up or dont have the right fits. lets not forget, he brought in all of the players last year didnt he? And how did that work out?

  • @pierreterrell3316
    @pierreterrell3316 Před 12 dny +1

    Plus kids today are supper soft FSU builds through the trans portal and went 13-0 so you have no idea what you are talking about

  • @sheraldhill2728
    @sheraldhill2728 Před 9 dny

    Deion is a highly paid AAU coach who wants his fav kids to shine and will move on shortly to a new group of favorites.

  • @heiliger1000
    @heiliger1000 Před 7 dny

    It's great that they won 4 games in his first year, compared to the 1 the year prior. But, this entire off season everything at Colorado seems to just be a mess. With both him and his son making fun of kids that transferred etc. He claims he didn't really talk much on the field as a player, but as a coach that's all he seems to do is run his mouth. He's one of my favorite football players ever and his Falcons jersey is one of the few I ever had. If they don't have a really good season and go to a decent bowl game, I think he'll be on his way out very soon.

  • @terrencetempleton1915
    @terrencetempleton1915 Před 11 dny

    I don't disagree but they did only win 1 game the year before under a different coaching staff. His coaching tenure may fail horrendously but let's see it

  • @daxota_6750
    @daxota_6750 Před 11 dny

    Those teams in the Big12 will play and win because they don't have kids jumping around the transfer portal left and right. Those are the teams that form brotherhoods

  • @Seniormac
    @Seniormac Před 12 dny

    The hats are all I needed to know

  • @cbryant1906
    @cbryant1906 Před 5 dny +1

    This sounds like I'm listening to FOX news