the biggest problem with 13 Reasons Why season 3

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  • @AlexMeyersVids
    @AlexMeyersVids  Před 4 lety +6852

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  • @jasonblack4208
    @jasonblack4208 Před 4 lety +2579

    "and apparently I was the only kid in high school with acne"
    LMAO!

  • @Iris-tl7ld
    @Iris-tl7ld Před 4 lety +8481

    The editing just keeps getting better and better but it was weird seeing no animation aha

    • @pvrkth6379
      @pvrkth6379 Před 4 lety +44

      IKR

    • @astrowolvez
      @astrowolvez Před 4 lety +80

      Whoa, I didn't even notice. 😂

    • @mynameisanafer4361
      @mynameisanafer4361 Před 4 lety +90

      omg that's why the video felt kinda weird

    • @strw.b3rry395
      @strw.b3rry395 Před 4 lety +59

      yall are clearly very new, alot of his old videos had this same format

    • @AshishSharma-vz6ru
      @AshishSharma-vz6ru Před 4 lety

      Every 13 reasons why fan should watch this czcams.com/video/5IvMVO-vk5o/video.html

  • @teasis4285
    @teasis4285 Před 4 lety +3089

    “Apparently I was the only kid in high school with acne...”

    • @XXX-hc9cd
      @XXX-hc9cd Před 4 lety +83

      HAHAHA ikr I always thought it was weird that NONE of them had no acne...

    • @teasis4285
      @teasis4285 Před 4 lety +38

      iM sTiLL a KiD fr I get soooo insecure

    • @nathanmugari9531
      @nathanmugari9531 Před 4 lety +8

      Alexi 🥺🥺🥺

    • @someonecalledmaya9985
      @someonecalledmaya9985 Před 4 lety +30

      Yamna ouch probably because all of them are adults in their mid twenties to mid thirties so they don’t really get that much acne. or they’re wearing bucket-loads of makeup

    • @somebody-xu4mz
      @somebody-xu4mz Před 4 lety +22

      Right in most British kids sitcoms and stuff, there is always one episode where one (1) character gets one (1) spot and it is treated like the end of the world until an adult steps in in the final act and explains that it's natural and it will pass. But then, nobody ever gets another spot over the course of the series. Just a trope I've noticed and I hate it.

  • @electricmouse5985
    @electricmouse5985 Před 4 lety +2377

    Is anyone going to talk about Ani’s hypocrisy? She framed monty for murder when for the whole season she intruded upon everyone else’s lives to try to find the real murderer. she made people tell the truth, which she didn’t even deserve, to just choose the person she wants to save in the end. so annoying.

    • @thejanglezclan
      @thejanglezclan Před 4 lety +146

      Most characters were honest with a few people. Ani blatantly lied and withheld information from everyone all the time and acted so above it. She was portrayed horribly. What were the writers thinking?

    • @Xemnes135869
      @Xemnes135869 Před 4 lety +75

      Her character was pointless and unlikable. Like...sleeping with bryce...yes...y?! It's like the show runners wanted her to be a anoying bitch character

    • @keishaholmes544
      @keishaholmes544 Před 4 lety +79

      Seriously though, Monty deserved prison for the rape. But the logic of “he’s already going to prison so let’s frame him for murder” is stupid. Alex has NO reason to kill Bryce.

    • @alicoop3195
      @alicoop3195 Před 4 lety +31

      Yeah shes new so it's not fair for her to get the whole story. She wasn't there and for them to straight up tell her the whole story it's kinda annoying

    • @Xehanort10
      @Xehanort10 Před 4 lety +78

      Not to mention her selfish "I don't care if Bryce raped other girls because I fancy him" logic.

  • @infinitymixtapes9562
    @infinitymixtapes9562 Před 4 lety +6263

    Let's acknowledge the face that Jess and Alex watched Clay get arrested, knowing damn well he was innocent

    • @Alibern7
      @Alibern7 Před 4 lety +457

      Lol right, some friends

    • @NovaKnight_
      @NovaKnight_ Před 4 lety +447

      Let’s be real, they didn’t know who’d be sHoCkInG enough to be Bryce’s ultimate killer and pulled Jess and Alex out of their ass. How they acted up until the last episode didn’t hint or foreshadow anything that would assume either of them were guilty or suspicious. It’s an obvious asspull on the writer’s part, no one can convince me otherwise.

    • @Snudru
      @Snudru Před 4 lety +204

      @@NovaKnight_ Honestly I'm surprised at how little I see this pointed out. I too am convinced the writers didn't know themselves until the very end or if they did know they made sure there were NO clues or hints or logic that pointed to them because SHOCK VALUE. I rewatched some of the scenes with Jess and Alex before the reveal, and there are no clues that say they DIDN'T do it, but then again everyone was supposed to be acting suspicious just for the sake of it. I'd imagine Jess and Alex to be A LOT more stressed if they were actually guilty....

    • @JackalopeBunny
      @JackalopeBunny Před 4 lety +97

      @grete The only thing that hints Jess had something to do with it, was the fact near the start she has a tape with blood on it. When your watching the show and it shows the tape on her bed, right away I was like. "What's with the tape? Is that blood or nail polish?" cause it didn't really look like blood.

    • @sariirenee4553
      @sariirenee4553 Před 4 lety +6

      @@NovaKnight_ EXACTLY

  • @zahrahx8264
    @zahrahx8264 Před 4 lety +2018

    "it glorifies/glamorizes the idea of going through a traumatic experience." COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER!!!

    • @sethm3856
      @sethm3856 Před 4 lety +81

      right! there's that saying that there's beauty in pain & from pain & trauma comes great art, poetry, writing. But real pain is just pain, there's no beauty in it. like those lyrics "you can get addicted to a certain kind of sadness", yea a really mild, more like teen angst, brooding kind of sadness. but not real sadness like depression or grief.

    • @bubbles4897
      @bubbles4897 Před 4 lety +42

      I don’t like thirteen reasons why, but how does it “glamorize” going through a traumatic experience? None of the traumatic experiences I’ve seen on the show look appealing at all

    • @AmazingGolazo
      @AmazingGolazo Před 4 lety +113

      That Being Said because every single character has to go through something traumatic to be interesting or cared for. And the “normal” people are stuck in the background. It makes the viewers believe you have to go through something traumatic to be listened to. And most of the viewers are kids, which makes it even worse. Thats just what i think atleast

    • @JennyofOldStones713
      @JennyofOldStones713 Před 4 lety +74

      That Being Said it encourages victimhood. It shows that being a “victim” makes you important, therefore more attention, more demands to be catered to. Kind of like millennials and society today.

    • @zenriboakwon2921
      @zenriboakwon2921 Před 4 lety +54

      @@AmazingGolazo THIS!! That's exactly how I feel about this show as a whole, especially because it's far from "realistic" at least on a majority scale. It's frustrating when I have to tell me that no, I'm not like any of these characters despite having gone through some shit. And I hate explaining to my cousins that no, you don't have to go through depression or anxiety or anything TRAUMATIC to feel some kind of pain or struggle internally.

  • @Freshness0009
    @Freshness0009 Před 4 lety +3017

    Clay: “i want to seek justice and the truth!”
    Plot: *Alex is the one revealed to kill Bryce*
    Clay:......unless it’s one of my bros that kinda treated me like crap throughout most of our relationship

    • @ChuruPa
      @ChuruPa Před 4 lety +29

      💀💀💀

    • @summertime361
      @summertime361 Před 4 lety +71

      That's a good point, like he didn't even blink an eye.. so dumb

    • @jinpeachyy6173
      @jinpeachyy6173 Před 4 lety +77

      Clay just mad bryce was fucking the new chick

    • @cannonfod1346
      @cannonfod1346 Před 4 lety +71

      Yes. Thank you! That was what buffled me, he suspected his friends at the beginning and goes crazy on them saying all that bs but then he found out Alex killed Bryce and they were all like, we deserve to be happy and move on at the end. WTF! Bryce and Monty weren't the best human beings but they definitely didn't deserve to die so miserably like that.

    • @jinpeachyy6173
      @jinpeachyy6173 Před 4 lety +12

      ​@@cannonfod1346 FUCK MONTY!! I only feel bad for Bryce

  • @ItsMeNijntje
    @ItsMeNijntje Před 4 lety +6145

    It also annoys me that the 'brand' of 13 reasons why is all about "talk to an adult! talk to someone you trust! go find help!" but in the show, all the kids refuse to trust adults and need to do everything themselves....
    edit: everyone can stop commeting that that's the whole point of the show, to show that things get fucked up if you don't. I get it

    • @KsGurlGamer
      @KsGurlGamer Před 4 lety +445

      ItsMyNijntje Maybe the point is to show how far things could possibly go if you don’t ask for help, many teenagers actually don’t ask for help in real life. (Also, it’s to cover their butts.)

    • @tiktokontheclock3199
      @tiktokontheclock3199 Před 4 lety +7

      ItsMyNijntje too true

    • @entitree.
      @entitree. Před 4 lety +193

      I think that is the point. They all got into so much shit by not talking to adults. I know when I watched it I was constantly screaming at the screen “why don’t you just tell someone”. I think it worked.

    • @deepshaking1
      @deepshaking1 Před 4 lety +75

      @@entitree. I mean you also have to take into account that adults don't listen to kids and that's why they don't tell anyone. They just think alot of what kids have to say is nonsense and doesn't matter or depending on what you say you'll get in trouble for it.
      Also the fact that half the adults in this show are just as bad if not miles worse than some of the teenage characters.

    • @entitree.
      @entitree. Před 4 lety +29

      deepshaking that’s also very true. I know a million adults in real life who are incapable of being adults.

  • @evl952
    @evl952 Před 4 lety +2965

    People are so focused on Ani but fail to realize that Jessica and Alex almost let Clay go to jail for a crime they know he didn’t commit🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @ryderwilson7955
      @ryderwilson7955 Před 4 lety +69

      lol ikr

    • @angelabby2379
      @angelabby2379 Před 4 lety +157

      At least they are character from 1st and 2nd season, not fing nancy drew come out of nowhere has stupid accent and act like everyone needs her

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq Před 4 lety +123

      I know, they almost let Clay get arrested to save their own skins!😤 With friends like these, indeed...

    • @emyf9197
      @emyf9197 Před 4 lety +45

      And thats why ppl hate ani bcuz she was a distraction n annoying that... I didnt even think abt it until your comment

    • @evl952
      @evl952 Před 4 lety +61

      Opaque z them being original characters doesn’t excuse poor friendship

  • @aleu9895
    @aleu9895 Před 4 lety +1918

    writers kinda forgot what their show was about

  • @malakh5579
    @malakh5579 Před 4 lety +3401

    Nobody is talking about the editing? i love it

  • @osatoasted
    @osatoasted Před 4 lety +937

    they massacared clay so harshly.. clay used to be like just a kid whos trying to get justice but then they turned him into an obsessive and just disturbing character. but tyler was the best character since they showed how a person could turn around.

    • @thejanglezclan
      @thejanglezclan Před 4 lety +67

      Legitimately turned Clay into a bit of a simp.

    • @gbabyy9822
      @gbabyy9822 Před 4 lety +1

      TJC whats a simp 😭

    • @osatoasted
      @osatoasted Před 4 lety +1

      TJC i just saw this comment after two months and i can agree

    • @imspoon7188
      @imspoon7188 Před 4 lety +10

      saekimaki I would have actually liked to see Bryce become a reformed character.

    • @tangosparks1111
      @tangosparks1111 Před 4 lety +20

      I hated how Clay was so entitled and the world and everybody he knew could only be the way that he saw them. And he felt like he had the right to judge everyone’s actions and take matters into his own hands

  • @emmanuelpacheco8765
    @emmanuelpacheco8765 Před 4 lety +5084

    The girl that was helping Jessica with the riot was more annoying than Ani

    • @Nessiedx
      @Nessiedx Před 4 lety +494

      Tom Cruise My god every time she came on screen I was like SKIP

    • @OwCute98
      @OwCute98 Před 4 lety +316

      The worst is that the actress plays the same roles over and over again !

    • @jforkie1838
      @jforkie1838 Před 4 lety +448

      Tom Cruise you’re 100% right she was so annoying, she was just like “Ik you run this committee and you were the one who was raped and all buuuuuut, your opinion doesn’t matter Bc I’m a feminist and I’m going to boycott a funeral.”

    • @legitaf5072
      @legitaf5072 Před 4 lety +72

      no she wasn't. the Annie character was useless AF and the Jessica girl was always making herself a victim

    • @emmanuelpacheco8765
      @emmanuelpacheco8765 Před 4 lety +170

      @@legitaf5072 ani at least tried to be a character, even if she was bad, she does not compare to the feminist girl, which shows by the fact that none of us know the characters name nor care to find out

  • @michaeljohnson1300
    @michaeljohnson1300 Před 4 lety +12192

    Finally someone points out the hypocrisy. Jessica and Alex need to be in jail. Just because trama happened does not give them a pass for murder.

    • @shayla106
      @shayla106 Před 4 lety +807

      Thank you. People say he deserves it, but if you plan to take the law into,your own hands you have to be ready to deal with the consequences. We as the audience have insider information, their police does not. If everyone took this approach to crime.... A lot of innocent men who have been wrongfully excused would die.

    • @NovaKnight_
      @NovaKnight_ Před 4 lety +701

      Also I didn’t like how they romanticized Jess and Justin’s relationship. Acknowledging that you’re toxic for each other and then choosing to stay isn’t romantic and ‘real love’. Like, move on, geez. 🙄

    • @laraa.6685
      @laraa.6685 Před 4 lety +625

      As Jake Peralta would say, "Cool motive, still murder."

    • @petriele9581
      @petriele9581 Před 4 lety +146

      The way Jess handled it (before she was part of murdering Bryce) was wayyyy better. she put awareness to it and was strong after all what happened.

    • @animenokoijin2963
      @animenokoijin2963 Před 4 lety +54

      Murder I'd wrong but imagine the PTSD if you saw your friend raped by your same rapist and reacted in flight mode in shock that's a heavy scar but it makes you crack a little not justifying but everyone is not strong willed and ut only takes a step to trigger them the whole message is be careful how you treat people you never know what a person's intentions are they could be suicidal or homicidal

  • @stelleldir
    @stelleldir Před 4 lety +1560

    I dislike Ani's character so much, she was such a liar. Tyler on the other hand made me cry twice. I'm so glad he was able to get better after all he went through. Also I didn't particularly dislike the season. They show how people no matter what, are capable of either good or bad.

    • @cerauno21
      @cerauno21 Před rokem

      she defends a r*pist by using Tyler's name like wtf is wrong with u

    • @stelleldir
      @stelleldir Před rokem

      @@cerauno21 Idk what you are talking about.

  • @gauravjaviya7363
    @gauravjaviya7363 Před 4 lety +1209

    Season 1 - I'm here for clay Jensen
    Season 3 - look how they massacred my boy

    • @IvyHilts
      @IvyHilts Před 4 lety +22

      I was expecting to discover that Ani was a liar and was mking her own story for the police. An unreliable narrator that tells the story she'd like to have happened, but never had. Every Clay scene I was like: "Nope, ridiculous, he woud never react like this..." But in the end... So disappointing.

    • @yikesgina
      @yikesgina Před 4 lety

      @@Austmorg I thought there was only one book?

    • @yikesgina
      @yikesgina Před 4 lety

      @@Austmorg I thought there were more and I was missing something. Lol got excited for a sec

    • @thelittlefriends3779
      @thelittlefriends3779 Před 4 lety +8

      One thing is good in season 3 and it's Tyler and Clay's relationship. How they cope. It was emotional let's be honest here.

    • @sm1purplmurderedme583
      @sm1purplmurderedme583 Před 4 lety

      IDK IDK lmao ok ur wrong

  • @entertain7us148
    @entertain7us148 Před 4 lety +10585

    "The worst thing about 13 Reasons Why is that all its characters are defined by the worst thing that's happened to them."
    Great point
    Edit: I literally never do this but holy hell, I’ve never had this many likes for anything

    • @assyrianprincess3
      @assyrianprincess3 Před 4 lety +96

      Dude straight up!

    • @albedox6428
      @albedox6428 Před 4 lety +16

      How does it end?

    • @ireneneylon2404
      @ireneneylon2404 Před 4 lety +12

      Spot on

    • @kerrie6084
      @kerrie6084 Před 4 lety +215

      I had some very traumatic things happen to me and it's a massive pet peeve of mine when shows either make the traumatic thing the main part of the character or when they structure the show so good things come from the traumatic thing. I get seeing the good side but the way some shows do it feels like they're almost justifying the horrible thing

    • @caytlin100
      @caytlin100 Před 4 lety +2

      entertain7us14 amén

  • @MashZ
    @MashZ Před 4 lety +848

    "Apparently I was the only kid in high school with acne" 🤣🤣

  • @manasbansal7946
    @manasbansal7946 Před 4 lety +1353

    4th season - Monty is not dead and comes back for revenge.

    • @DC-Supreme
      @DC-Supreme Před 4 lety +83

      Nah man they killing off all the jocks because people who play sports are bad. I hope monty comes back and gets exonerated for the murder and tyler and alex go to prison for the murder and nearly shooting up the school. Lowkey if tyler actually shot up the dance and killed bryce and monty that would have been a more interesting storyline. And season 3 would have been about tylers trial, showing the differences between rape and murder. And no matter how much someone's hurt people they still dont deserve to be killed.

    • @Godfirst986
      @Godfirst986 Před 4 lety +17

      @Sally Vee mane please Monty had plenty of time to change. Sometimes it's called karma that gets you and it's too late to change. You can't blame God. You got to blame yourself for not changing. He could have changed when Bryce confronted him. He could have changed multiple times. It ain't like he died soon after he raped Tyler. He died 7 or 8 months later. That's plenty of time to change. Sometimes when you do wrong, you run of time to change. That's why it's good to change quickly because you never know when your time is up. But one thing you can't say is he didn't have enough time. He had plenty of time, my guy. He just choose to not to do the right thing.

    • @Godfirst986
      @Godfirst986 Před 4 lety +7

      @Sally Vee and thirteen episodes adds to about a few months in real time when Bryce changed. Just because Monty didn't have no screen time doesn't mean he didn't have enough time to change.

    • @Godfirst986
      @Godfirst986 Před 4 lety +5

      @Sally Vee ok because that's apart of life. That's my point everybody doesn't get a chance to get a second chance to change. That's why it's good to change at the very moment. And that's because the writers wrote it like that. It's their story they can write like how ever they want because stuff like that happens in real life. Every rapist, every killer, every kidnapper, every adulterer don't get a second chance because they time ran out and that's God mercy if they do. And please Monty had plenty of time. He had about seven to eight months to change. That's plenty of time because some people rape people and die the next day. So yes, God did have grace on him. Monty just chose not to change. End of story.

    • @Tizyanna
      @Tizyanna Před 4 lety +23

      @@Godfirst986 Monty is like almost the only semirealistic person in this season. Nobody would turn 180° like Bryce did. At least their show us Monty's background and what lead to behave the way he did. They also show us the "good side" he has at the end, to point out, that nothing's black or white. But really? He was all alone, didn't have anyone. His only true brother died, the others just listened to him but never really respected him or were his friends. His dad just threw him away, just because he's gay. And he just has noone else to talk to, gets killed and is framed of a murder he didn't do. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to idolise him but he shows one of few character from this serie, which could really exist.

  • @samash7302
    @samash7302 Před 4 lety +225

    “Ani, STFU!”
    -Everyone

  • @jazzypari
    @jazzypari Před 4 lety +4730

    S01- Hannah Baker killed herself. Here's 13 reasons why.
    S03- Hannah who?
    Edit: people coming for me in the comments y'all need to chill. This was just a joke. Y'all don't need to take it so personally like you are the writers f the show 😂

    • @Lorenzo-px6pe
      @Lorenzo-px6pe Před 4 lety +141

      ankita parody m8, the whole se old Season was about letting Hannah go and letting things go to rest. Literally one of the last scenes in season two is clay during Hannah’s funeral having a vision, as he speaks about how great she was, telling him he has to let Hannah go. And so he does, another point of this season is that this is all now bigger than Hannah. Etc.

    • @HeavyMetalKittenx
      @HeavyMetalKittenx Před 4 lety +8

      Lorenzo agreed this is what I wanted to say

    • @Curtis_11
      @Curtis_11 Před 4 lety +189

      The title of the show makes zero sense to the third season.

    • @jennycarrington9035
      @jennycarrington9035 Před 4 lety +37

      Ik, it just doesn’t feel like the show, I don’t really see a point in it

    • @stefvnbrssl8601
      @stefvnbrssl8601 Před 4 lety +47

      @@Curtis_11 actually it does. Every episode gives a reason who could have killed bryce and why

  • @abigailscorner902
    @abigailscorner902 Před 4 lety +1931

    Wow can we take a minute to appreciate the look of this video

  • @thegooddinggleberry
    @thegooddinggleberry Před 4 lety +1195

    Protesting a funeral is a line to far, for anyone. Even the worst society has families, and the only thing you where doing tossing out more hate into the world.

    • @mollie.28.15
      @mollie.28.15 Před 4 lety +177

      Daniel Magger exactly. Funerals aren’t meant for the dead, they’re for the living friends and family of the dead person therefore protesting it means that you have a problem with the living people who did nothing wrong, not the dead person.

    • @johndoe-mz6rz
      @johndoe-mz6rz Před 4 lety +26

      Thats why she tried to stop them from protesting it

    • @pyroshayniac1090
      @pyroshayniac1090 Před 4 lety +115

      Yeah, why did the show make rape survivors villainous?

    • @Xehanort10
      @Xehanort10 Před 4 lety +71

      And tried to make rapists seem like poor victims.

    • @youtubealtaccount7163
      @youtubealtaccount7163 Před 4 lety +16

      @@pyroshayniac1090 Couldn't have said it better myself

  • @kathylopez6767
    @kathylopez6767 Před 4 lety +742

    What did 13 reasons why show us? If you're gonna kill someone it helps if your pops is a cop.

    • @thejanglezclan
      @thejanglezclan Před 4 lety +35

      Alex's dad conspired with the kids to have Monty killed in jail. That would actually make more sense than anything.

    • @Xehanort10
      @Xehanort10 Před 4 lety +2

      Doubly so if he's also Lucifer.

  • @gunaymuradova4633
    @gunaymuradova4633 Před 4 lety +8184

    "Bryce raped many girls but he has dark past and sad life so it is okay"
    When will these people learn that having a past trauma doesn't justify being a horrible human being?

    • @jildouopdehoek7625
      @jildouopdehoek7625 Před 4 lety +729

      If I could like this comment a thousand times I would. Sure, a fucked up past gives someone a reason to do fucked up shit, but that doesn't justify their actions.

    • @marywilliams6079
      @marywilliams6079 Před 4 lety +550

      My thoughts exactly. You can go through sh*t, but that doesn't mean you should become a sh*tty person. Instead I feel like you should be more sympathetic to people's problems and not be the cause of more horrible sh*t.

    • @maadtee6281
      @maadtee6281 Před 4 lety +80

      From what I saw it never said it was okay cause even after falling down from Grace he had his episodes of his abusive self. What we just knew is even though he did what he did he is a human being

    • @FKA91
      @FKA91 Před 4 lety +341

      I'm so over the "bad guy had a sad life, so it's ok if he was bad" narratives in tv shows. It's not original or interesting anymore. Not every antagonist needs to be overly humanized with a pity backstory.
      We already live in a world where bullies become presidents and rapists win awards. Why do we need to always woobify them in fiction too?

    • @ryderwilson7955
      @ryderwilson7955 Před 4 lety +119

      criminologists have to understand a criminal, thus research all their past trauma's and them being sad and good, it doesn't make the crimes go away, but these are points to consider, it's a fact.

  • @kori5147
    @kori5147 Před 4 lety +2009

    “ apparently I was the only kid who had acne “ bey I FELT that💀😭

    • @lucybarnes8969
      @lucybarnes8969 Před 4 lety

      Amen oof

    • @kori5147
      @kori5147 Před 4 lety

      Kenneisha Rolle , Jamaican boo😚

    • @Mikol_Billy
      @Mikol_Billy Před 4 lety +43

      Lmao I said that to my girlfriend half way through the season “for a bunch of teenagers in high stress situations, their skin is awfully clear”

    • @katied1964
      @katied1964 Před 4 lety

      HL Vlogs makeup lol

    • @Mikol_Billy
      @Mikol_Billy Před 4 lety +2

      katie d OH! Thanks detective! 😀

  • @megusik30
    @megusik30 Před 4 lety +546

    Clay’s greatest weakness is his loyalty to others. He should’ve gotten Alex and Jessica arrested, even though they had trauma. Montgomery had severe trauma as well, and in the end got murdered in Alex’s behalf.

    • @foreversimgirl828
      @foreversimgirl828 Před 4 lety +38

      megusik30 tbh Monty was going to be murdered either way. I just thought it was wrong for them to pin the blame on him whether he died or not.

    • @johndoe-mz6rz
      @johndoe-mz6rz Před 4 lety +18

      No he got killed for rape then after he died they put the blame on him next time think about what you say

    • @tylerthompson7277
      @tylerthompson7277 Před 4 lety +8

      john doe I thought Justin got Seth to kill Monty which was referring to the “ homework”

    • @johndoe-mz6rz
      @johndoe-mz6rz Před 4 lety

      Red Hawk stfu what are you even talking about

    • @foreversimgirl828
      @foreversimgirl828 Před 4 lety

      john doe wait was your first comment directed towards me ?

  • @khadijahmuhammad4771
    @khadijahmuhammad4771 Před 4 lety +146

    I didn't like how they framed Clay and Hannah's relationship as a one sided obsession. Ani herself admitted that she knew practically nothing about Hannah, but she still talked about the relationship to mischaracterize Clay.

    • @noone9811
      @noone9811 Před 4 lety +29

      Khadijah Muhammad she also framed that clay was obsessed with her when she was the one to initiate their first kiss.. god I hate her

  • @overthecounterbeanie
    @overthecounterbeanie Před 4 lety +1044

    This show became "13 Reasons Why Gossip Girls Get Away With Murder".

  • @Evypttt
    @Evypttt Před 4 lety +4156

    Tyler was the best character this season hands down. He had a BEAUTIFUL development, he was broken, picked up the pieces, and put them back together. 🥺

    • @scarlet8078
      @scarlet8078 Před 4 lety +303

      I agree. Tyler was literally the only interesting character to me. His arc is also what saved Season 2 imo. That actor did such a good job portraying a male victim of assault, I literally got tears in my eyes when he told Clay what happened. That should've been a focus of this season rather than trying to cover some random "hot topic" each episode - abortion, deportation, addiction, steroids, etc. All of those are important issues but they weren't handled in-depth and so it was hard to care about them. I mean... chloe could've been an interesting character too but why have only 1 episode with her and it's all about abortion

    • @shayla106
      @shayla106 Před 4 lety +81

      E slater School shooter. Awww so sad 😒. I mean just know that he almost shot up a school and his friends covered for him just like they did with Bryce’s murder, it really makes you feel for them all. Like how they all deserve jail time. Because they still broke the law and Jessica has been going on about owning up to actions. And telling on people even if they are your friends.

    • @oxblooddaisy3182
      @oxblooddaisy3182 Před 4 lety +52

      @@scarlet8078 Exactly! They were trying to say abortion shouldn't define you but then they made it define her???? Like??

    • @ziiineb9037
      @ziiineb9037 Před 4 lety +4

      Hey can I ask you something, at the beginning of the show we saw Ani cleaning up some blood of a white shirt, so what was that exactly??

    • @shayla106
      @shayla106 Před 4 lety +15

      ziii neeb it was just paint.

  • @Wahsup05
    @Wahsup05 Před 4 lety +737

    I'm still wondering what happened to the other characters from season 1 and 2... Like wtf they seemingly disappeared

    • @cjw8773
      @cjw8773 Před 4 lety +92

      The Asian and black chick graduated high school

    • @champagnepapi1584
      @champagnepapi1584 Před 4 lety +43

      Cj Warren Courtney didn’t graduate, she was in like one episode

    • @gauriparvatiberg8057
      @gauriparvatiberg8057 Před 4 lety +82

      @@champagnepapi1584 The part where Courtney is in, is a flashback scene. The flashback scene takes place shortly after the spring fling (where the school shooting almost happened), so its still the 3rd year of high school for characters like Clay, Jessica, Tyler, Ani, etc, and its Courtney's senior and final year. The events of Season 3 takes place during the senior year of the characters who were in their 3rd year during the spring fling/Season 2, so Courtney has already graduated like Marcus and Ryan. Hence we don't see them this Season.

    • @champagnepapi1584
      @champagnepapi1584 Před 4 lety +2

      Gauri Parvati BERG Okay thanks

    • @Wahsup05
      @Wahsup05 Před 4 lety +2

      @@gauriparvatiberg8057 ahh great insight thanks I'm not from the US so I didn't know 😂

  • @syrollesse
    @syrollesse Před 4 lety +254

    I feel like Ani was like some perfect self insert oc type of character that everyone suddenly trusts for no reason and she's like friends with everyone on all sides and main character loves her and so does the "villain" character and she's always overhearing everything and putting herself into situations that have nothing to do with her it's like... Why :')
    I like her mother and their arc but it could have been done so much better imo. It feels like she just comes out of nowhere and takes the spotlight

    • @thejanglezclan
      @thejanglezclan Před 4 lety +51

      it makes NO sense why a secretive group would trust "the new girl" with so much information. It destroys logic.

    • @Xehanort10
      @Xehanort10 Před 4 lety +18

      She was basically a Mary Sue who seemingly appeared out of thin air.

    • @honppeyricysorcin8908
      @honppeyricysorcin8908 Před 4 lety +8

      Exactly like a self insert fanfic

    • @liyasya172
      @liyasya172 Před 4 lety +4

      well I don't love her. She comes outta now where and is so nosy about the main characters. She doesn't have anything to do with them, so could she just you gtfo? I stopped watching season 3 because of her and clay 😪

  • @smclean5504
    @smclean5504 Před 4 lety +609

    Best line: "one of the biggest things about 13RW is that we all need to listen... that's why you should get audible" lmaooo wow

    • @ATHANwave
      @ATHANwave Před 4 lety +1

      LMAO YESSS best comercial ever

  • @m1sterch3f7
    @m1sterch3f7 Před 4 lety +1320

    I REALLY hope that no one has to go through *the mop scene*

    • @mackaylacook148
      @mackaylacook148 Před 4 lety +193

      Oh God it was horrible I felt sick to my stomach, I almost threw up, honestly I felt cold and clammy after that scene

    • @resnonverba3140
      @resnonverba3140 Před 4 lety +83

      M1ster Ch3f I cried when I first watched that scene

    • @theotakuking4136
      @theotakuking4136 Před 4 lety +77

      Happened last year at an all boys school. It was a prank at first but they didnt stop and here we are with 7 or 9 people expelled

    • @m1sterch3f7
      @m1sterch3f7 Před 4 lety +105

      What kind of sick *frick* would do that, *AS A PRANK*

    • @theotakuking4136
      @theotakuking4136 Před 4 lety +64

      @@m1sterch3f7 they were all originally joking around and one thing led to the next and here we are now. It was with a broom shaft in a boyd locker room. Theres even a video of it and according to the head police chief in charge with sex crimes and offenders "this is the most graphic and horrible thing he has seen in his professional career" he gave an estimate of how long he had been working as one i dont remember the number nor his exact words but thats the gist of it

  • @3rdworldem
    @3rdworldem Před 4 lety +184

    Jeff was my favorite character & when i found out he died i cried so endlessly

  • @sarahroudon3639
    @sarahroudon3639 Před 4 lety +327

    I HATED the ending of this season because of exactly this. They WHOLE POINT of the show was about justice and uncovering the truth. But then at the end they cover a murder! Like, don’t get me wrong, I agree with Clay that the world is better off without Brice, but those two just watched him drown!
    I watched it with my best friend and we COMPLETELY disagree about the ending. I think they deserve to go to jail.

    • @IvyHilts
      @IvyHilts Před 4 lety +29

      "The criminals have to pay... But only if the crime affects me or my friends, and If we are the criminals, well, we are friends and we've been throug a lot, so we can get away with everything". Terrible season, terrible message.

    • @kideffron
      @kideffron Před 4 lety

      💯👍

    • @herebyhereby2874
      @herebyhereby2874 Před 4 lety +1

      the show aint finished dumbass

    • @sarahroudon3639
      @sarahroudon3639 Před 4 lety +5

      Hereby Hereby so? It not being finished doesn’t mean I can’t hate the ending of one of the seasons

    • @herebyhereby2874
      @herebyhereby2874 Před 4 lety

      @@sarahroudon3639you don't review a show based off half the seasons you have seen of it. You wait for the final outcome. They're still showing that actions have consequences and is the running theme. You wait.

  • @mogalat
    @mogalat Před 4 lety +3136

    tbh, 13rw is a huge mess.
    also, everyone bullying and hating on the actress playing Ani needs to chill, it's just a character blame the producers not the actress herself.

    • @mogalat
      @mogalat Před 4 lety +56

      @@MichelangeloVA exactly👏🏽

    • @amelancholybrown2686
      @amelancholybrown2686 Před 4 lety +13

      @@MichelangeloVA not all of them

    • @pvrkth6379
      @pvrkth6379 Před 4 lety +153

      im insulting the character but not the actress, the fact that i hate her character just shows how good her acting is

    • @TaigaToraDora
      @TaigaToraDora Před 4 lety +34

      @@pvrkth6379 honestly even if she wasnt a good actress i still would have disliked her character. Her character could have NOT existed and the story would have stayed the same.

    • @miaaimann6189
      @miaaimann6189 Před 4 lety +7

      kawthar rizki i haven’t even seen anybody show hate on the actor but more so the character 😭🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @maiaaa6474
    @maiaaa6474 Před 4 lety +797

    lmao by the end Ani's "omniscient all knowing, able to appear at any time" 😂😂😂

    • @madtitan0825
      @madtitan0825 Před 4 lety +1

      gossipgirl 90210 littlemix bro I checked almost every review on IMDb is just complaining about this character seriously I haven’t seen season 3 so seriously how suck is this character😂😂

    • @deaththekid5445
      @deaththekid5445 Před 4 lety +2

      Mad Titan basically just know the character is so dumb and bad that people have bullied her Actor as if she is Ani off of Social Media

  • @atomsk1972
    @atomsk1972 Před 4 lety +92

    How about repetitive dialogue; eg "Do you actually believe (person) is capable of that?" (Every answer) "I don't know." - everytime.
    Once you see the patterns it'll drive you crazy ... another "You have to believe me".

    • @angelaoriel5912
      @angelaoriel5912 Před 4 lety +4

      and bryce's "you are a pussy ass bitch" to bryce which he repeated thrice in one scene HAHA WHY

  • @Ash-hx1jz
    @Ash-hx1jz Před 4 lety +147

    I wanted to know more about the track girl who burned the clubhouse polaroids at the the end of S2

    • @madwildocean03
      @madwildocean03 Před 4 lety +20

      yeah i hated her too lol. this could have all ended in one split second but nOOOO

    • @gbabyy9822
      @gbabyy9822 Před 4 lety +1

      x_sophia.l_x ikr

    • @bluehearts2x
      @bluehearts2x Před 4 lety +2

      x_sophia.l_x it’s never that easy

    • @madwildocean03
      @madwildocean03 Před 4 lety +1

      @@bluehearts2x I know. I'm a victim/survivor so I get it but still

    • @Hina621
      @Hina621 Před 4 lety

      Yeah. What happened to her?

  • @Bombaclit
    @Bombaclit Před 4 lety +2660

    Season 1:
    _Hannah Bakers suicidal death_
    Season 3: _Bryce Walker’s death_
    Season 5: _Jessica’s death by suicide_
    Clay: “Well there goes my teenage life!”

  • @jenniferandrews6556
    @jenniferandrews6556 Před 4 lety +1891

    I couldn't even get myself to watch season 2 let alone 3....
    Edit: 2k likes, wow....but really shows that a lot of people feel the same.

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq Před 4 lety +39

      Me neither, watching Tyler get assaulted in the Season 2 finale was enough to put me off watching the show for good, as it was clear that they had learned nothing about subtlety. It might have been more effective had they just shown the aftermath, and allowed the audience to fill in the blanks.

    • @nooneimportant120
      @nooneimportant120 Před 4 lety +6

      Pet Shark what I suggest doing is to watch spoilers for season 2 because it’s super booooring and like so extra and then just get to season 3 because it’s sooo much better. It’s like a riverdale season 1 but with 13rw characters. It really is great (except for ani) and this comes from a non-13rw fan.

    • @zora9906
      @zora9906 Před 4 lety

      SAME

    • @sarasunshinemt4444
      @sarasunshinemt4444 Před 4 lety +21

      I binged watched 3 episodes of the first season, then had to go to bed. After sleeping on it, I realized that the show was pretty much BS and the girl that killed herself was pretty much just an attention seeking pouty teen.

    • @reedsylvier5250
      @reedsylvier5250 Před 4 lety +5

      I couldn't even get through half season 1

  • @athenarose1298
    @athenarose1298 Před 4 lety +96

    I really struggled watching season 3, it was just so different that the other two seasons. The characters, the premise and the way they presented the issues

    • @imsorry888
      @imsorry888 Před 10 měsíci

      Agree I jus rewatched, now I think they should’ve ended after season 2

  • @yikesgina
    @yikesgina Před 4 lety +48

    Y'all I hated Monty a lot. Right up until the end when we met his dad and my chest tightened. And then he got blamed for Bryce's death after he died. That will never be okay.

  • @MagicalWaterLight
    @MagicalWaterLight Před 4 lety +1185

    okay but next to everything he truthfully said, can we appreciate this insane editing?

    • @ellienas5179
      @ellienas5179 Před 4 lety +32

      This is very different from his usual videos but I loved it. I’m guessing because this is such a serious show he put all comedy aside and did a legit review rather than a funny one, but I definitely loved it. I wanna see him do more reviews like this every now and then!

    • @jdg2313
      @jdg2313 Před 4 lety

      No, just no. 13 Reasons Why might be the worst show.

  • @meakearosejones4207
    @meakearosejones4207 Před 4 lety +424

    Ani seemed to magically be everyone’s best friend too, even though she just showed up 5 minutes prior. I hate when shows do that, when 2 people meet and by the end of the episode they’re overcoming some meaningful, incredibly private problem and celebrate like they’ve known each other since kindergarten.

    • @josephc901
      @josephc901 Před 4 lety +43

      Meakearose Jones she also apparently felt she had the right to expose everyone’s secrets when she didn’t know them for more than 2 minutes

    • @lethalassassin1754
      @lethalassassin1754 Před 4 lety +36

      Shes a self insert fanfiction character. Idk who wrote her into this season:..

    • @ziiineb9037
      @ziiineb9037 Před 4 lety

      Hey can I ask you something, at the beginning of the show we saw Ani cleaning up some blood of a white shirt, so what was that exactly??

    • @ziiineb9037
      @ziiineb9037 Před 4 lety

      Hey can I ask you something, at the beginning of the show we saw Ani cleaning up some blood of a white shirt, so what was that exactly??

    • @janap2731
      @janap2731 Před 4 lety +5

      @@ziiineb9037 it was paint that spilled from the homecoming

  • @justamanofculture12
    @justamanofculture12 Před 4 lety +65

    *2030:* "13 seasons why?"

  • @TheRealSandman
    @TheRealSandman Před 4 lety +120

    Really annoyed me how Alex got away with it & they all covered it up, made all the build up seem a bit anti climactic

    • @aichaboo3742
      @aichaboo3742 Před 4 lety +2

      RyaanS Music exactly and the fact that he did that shit and Jessica and made everyone go through it

    • @niconetwork_wickedninja
      @niconetwork_wickedninja Před 4 lety

      And he still gets no consequences in the last season

  • @jennajones4334
    @jennajones4334 Před 4 lety +944

    The only thing I enjoyed about s3 was seeing Tyler grow through his pain and end up getting justice against monty

    • @colelikescartoons6662
      @colelikescartoons6662 Před 4 lety +13

      I cried during Bryce’s flashbacks with his mom. This is the worst ending with him. It hurts me that when he tries to get better he get murdered. Didn’t even get juctise

    • @Mh-xe1zh
      @Mh-xe1zh Před 4 lety +4

      ColelikesCartoons justice for what exactly please tel me

    • @anon7969
      @anon7969 Před 4 lety +1

      Same I just wanted to give him a hug

    • @Nicamon
      @Nicamon Před 4 lety

      Which is more than I enjoyed about season 1&2."13 Reasons Why"sucks but this season is the less of 3 evils for now.

    • @Mh-xe1zh
      @Mh-xe1zh Před 4 lety +7

      sadboihours & that’s exactly how they wanted us to react. I literally don’t feel bad for a serial rapist

  • @jxnebxggy
    @jxnebxggy Před 4 lety +543

    ... I thought 13 Reasons Why was about finding out why Hannah killed herself?

    • @latinalover26
      @latinalover26 Před 4 lety +169

      But then they saw how much money they can get if they continue the show

    • @manuelkivie4488
      @manuelkivie4488 Před 4 lety +6

      Kevin Jimenez LOLOL!!!

    • @gaysunshineshit4662
      @gaysunshineshit4662 Před 4 lety +8

      Masia M no one cares about hanna baker here’s ANI cos why not

    • @siddzk6522
      @siddzk6522 Před 4 lety +3

      ...catch up

    • @Tyler1251tyler
      @Tyler1251tyler Před 4 lety +2

      Masia M season 1 was read the book and watch the first season 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @riley-222
    @riley-222 Před 4 lety +12

    okay but the yoga studio scene with bryce got me in tears. I know he’s absolutely terrible but seeing him completely break down was so accurate and I bawled my eyes out.

  • @8eodoraa
    @8eodoraa Před 4 lety +57

    The season 2 and 3 of 13rw its like when I im done with my makeup and it looks good but I keed adding more and ends up looking PRETTY bad

  • @JorgeWiz
    @JorgeWiz Před 4 lety +651

    Season 1: "SHE KILLED HERSELF BECAUSE OF ALL OF YOU! AND YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT!!1!"
    Season 3 : "So we straight up murdered the guy and got another bad dude killed, completely lied about it to the cops, but it's okay u know we're the good guys.yay."

    • @aidillaarumdipta2073
      @aidillaarumdipta2073 Před 4 lety +6

      couldnt said it better myself they know monty will die soon so they just easily frame it on him knowing that he wont able to defend himself in court

    • @mikeockslong5047
      @mikeockslong5047 Před 4 lety +14

      They didn't get Monty killed he was already in jail for the Tyler incident

    • @maadtee6281
      @maadtee6281 Před 4 lety +7

      Well Monty was in jail because of what he did to Tyler and knowing his attitude he was probably killed because of it

    • @TheCommonGentry
      @TheCommonGentry Před 4 lety +1

      Someone finally gets me! Thank you, Keps!

    • @tochiiii
      @tochiiii Před 4 lety +19

      It was so unfair what they did to him even if he wasn't dead you can't just blame someone bcus they're already in jail on. THEY'RE ALL BAD PPL apart from Sherri WE WANT SHERRI BACK

  • @bellarkcox1243
    @bellarkcox1243 Před 4 lety +953

    It is nice to see you going back to your roots. I really miss these video essays and I hope you continue to do more every now and then. It is a nice change of pace and these are just very interesting and entertaining.
    EDIT: Have a good morning, everyone who reads this.

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq Před 4 lety +10

      I agree, I like it when Alex takes a break from his usual style once in a while and discusses more serious shows.

    • @125loopy
      @125loopy Před 4 lety +5

      @@trinaq I wouldn't call 13 Reasons Why a more serious show lol. It's definitely more Degrassi than Westworld. Still a cheesy teen drama that throws in serious topics without having the depth to deal with them.

    • @WWEdiva246
      @WWEdiva246 Před 4 lety +3

      Good morning to you too honey!

    • @NickTheKangaroo
      @NickTheKangaroo Před 4 lety +4

      I had a great morning, about 12 hours ago :)

    • @AzuReGravity
      @AzuReGravity Před 4 lety

      MeShannan Degrassi was a serious show though

  • @lionelluva
    @lionelluva Před 4 lety +62

    The only thing I'm grateful for is that Tyler finally told the truth and Monty was punished.

    • @jinpeachyy6173
      @jinpeachyy6173 Před 4 lety +7

      @Leonard Erasmus nahh the writers tried to make us feel sorry for him because his gay?? never! happy he gone and I'm happy he got spat on by his dad!

    • @tangosparks1111
      @tangosparks1111 Před 4 lety +1

      I’d rather have him rot in jail than be framed for a murder tho

    • @Emily-ys2do
      @Emily-ys2do Před 4 lety

      Legit, same with Bryce. I hate that people feel sorry for him. It was ofc wrong by law for Jessica and Alex to kill Bryce, but he had ruined so many lives that, in my opinion, he didn't even deserve to live. I felt nothing when he died. I wasn't happy either, bc murder is wrong, but him being gone didn't bother me at all.

  • @tayloralford4468
    @tayloralford4468 Před 4 lety +42

    He forgot to mention that side character from season 2...the one who just held clay back in the hallway fight instead of actually hitting him. What was the point of his character?

    • @tangosparks1111
      @tangosparks1111 Před 4 lety +8

      Taylor Alford literally tho. like they never went in depth into scott and he never had a storyline except he was a nice jock

    • @Hina621
      @Hina621 Před 4 lety +4

      Yeah. There are a few characters that just never got fully explained. It’s weird especially with how long the episodes are

  • @jeevaneshsawhney9726
    @jeevaneshsawhney9726 Před 4 lety +1795

    Euphoria is tons more realistic in this genre. It really has relatable characters.

    • @Ooopshie
      @Ooopshie Před 4 lety +9

      @yumyum lol

    • @Manesson
      @Manesson Před 4 lety +28

      @yumyum The bunch of " lot of peepees"comments is one of the reasons I didnt watch yet lol

    • @hhtptai
      @hhtptai Před 4 lety +68

      EUPHORIA IS MY SHIT.

    • @Ohwowok137
      @Ohwowok137 Před 4 lety +1

      Is it on Netflix?

    • @lisalovespie5626
      @lisalovespie5626 Před 4 lety +63

      i wanna watch Euphoria but i've heard it's practically porn, i'm not into that lmao

  • @b.3.l1.a64
    @b.3.l1.a64 Před 4 lety +2782

    Monty didn't deserve to die like that and it wasn't fair that Alex didn't pay for what he did. Jessica is such a hypocrite.

  • @zalsabillafaratria2108
    @zalsabillafaratria2108 Před 4 lety +45

    Honestly the only thing keeping me going through the season is just Clay and Justin's relationship. Besides that, meh.

  • @underconstructionbeback
    @underconstructionbeback Před 4 lety +19

    **sees title**
    automatically thinks .. “Ani”

  • @NovaKnight_
    @NovaKnight_ Před 4 lety +486

    I only kept watching to see if Tyler was okay. 😩

    • @f4ded420
      @f4ded420 Před 4 lety +4

      Same tbh ngl

    • @Yas-ei3st
      @Yas-ei3st Před 4 lety +45

      Yes! Best character this whole season. He was so cute when he started smiling again🤗

    • @kellsweettheshortie8622
      @kellsweettheshortie8622 Před 4 lety

      Big facts💯

    • @Longtallnikki61
      @Longtallnikki61 Před 4 lety

      ALL of this!

    • @Evypttt
      @Evypttt Před 4 lety +7

      Tyler is forever my babyyyy he makes me feel his emotions with him 😭🤞🏾

  • @JessBessTess
    @JessBessTess Před 4 lety +131

    That was my issue with this season. For two whole seasons, clay wanted to find out the truth and get justice for those harmed and put away those guilty. But if it's his friends who are guilty, he will do anything to frame someone else to get them off. It's such a bullshit plot and it absolutely goes against everything the show is supposed to be in season 1 and 2

    • @hannahkovalcik2905
      @hannahkovalcik2905 Před 4 lety +2

      Yep, your totally right

    • @Alibern7
      @Alibern7 Před 4 lety +1

      They are going to go more into that In season 4

    • @shayla106
      @shayla106 Před 4 lety

      Cameron Field We both know they’re going to pull the cheap card of 1 or 2 turning themselves in and the others will get away with covering up a murder/ assisting in a murder.

  • @1kquavia
    @1kquavia Před 4 lety +86

    Alex didn't have have that much of a reason to kill Bryce !!

    • @dayangmarikit6860
      @dayangmarikit6860 Před 4 lety +21

      Alex said, "you've hurt everyone I've ever loved"... (Bryce raped Jessica and even accused her of "setting him up to be beaten", Bryce threatened to hurt/kill Zach who helped Alex with things like therapy, Bryce caused the death of Hannah, and Alex felt so guilty about not being able to help her when she was getting raped Alex even attempted to kill himself because of it, etc)... What Alex did was wrong, but he did have reasons, plus he was on steroids and he had what they call "Roid Rage".

    • @dayangmarikit6860
      @dayangmarikit6860 Před 4 lety

      Momo Yaoyorozu - It was him.

  • @haileyk7941
    @haileyk7941 Před 4 lety +88

    Annie is so annoying!! I just don't like her character Its so annoying
    Clay deserves to date the other girl NOT Annie

    • @aichaboo3742
      @aichaboo3742 Před 4 lety +3

      Hailey K ani* but I agree I hate her so much

    • @pine._.apples588
      @pine._.apples588 Před 4 lety +1

      Like Sheri they were very cute

    • @uno3542
      @uno3542 Před 4 lety +2

      I know right! She nosy and it’s annoying af

  • @rb1098
    @rb1098 Před 4 lety +654

    Ani annoyed me so much. She sounded like a fan fiction written character.

    • @nkirukaj2384
      @nkirukaj2384 Před 4 lety +6

      The “wish fulfillment” character

    • @Pixilers
      @Pixilers Před 4 lety +3

      I’m sorry but her voice was SOOO annoying like honestly couldn’t stand it

    • @luizamedeiros5476
      @luizamedeiros5476 Před 4 lety

      rebeccabroski at least she didn’t annoy me like Tyler and Jessica did

    • @obstinateundead3931
      @obstinateundead3931 Před 4 lety +3

      @@luizamedeiros5476 You mean Alex and Jessica? Cause does two was about to let Clay get arrested for something he didn't do.

    • @pigfang1015
      @pigfang1015 Před 4 lety

      I liked her

  • @myunderstandingscantsleepa664

    My biggest problem was ani.
    Thanks for coming to my ted talk

    • @Kalli315
      @Kalli315 Před 4 lety +13

      MyUnderstandingsCantSleepAtNight that could have been the entire video. “Ani sucks” begins talking about audible.

    • @Nessiedx
      @Nessiedx Před 4 lety +20

      Ani couldn’t get off her high horse the whole season

    • @jayt9701
      @jayt9701 Před 4 lety +2

      Why do you dislike ani so much?

    • @Karaaa99
      @Karaaa99 Před 4 lety +26

      Jaylyn 4real nosy bitch, who was just randomly thrown in and somehow became one of the main characters

    • @Yas-ei3st
      @Yas-ei3st Před 4 lety +20

      I hated her at the beginning for snitching cuz I was like "who is you?" Then later she started lying and got real rude when Clay was a lil suspicious of her. Then she goes blame a dead man for murder to protect her "friends" Someone needs to remove her nosy two faced character smh

  • @ahsvguy
    @ahsvguy Před 4 lety +59

    What about me: I haven't liked Alex since the 1st season.

    • @watevahloozah40
      @watevahloozah40 Před 4 lety +12

      Ikr. He was such an asshole

    • @yuni3092
      @yuni3092 Před 4 lety +11

      He was literally so annoying omfg

    • @wavyiann9788
      @wavyiann9788 Před 4 lety +1

      He’s one of those characters like Zach in season 1 that had poor writing and a poor development

    • @maximusrusso8758
      @maximusrusso8758 Před 4 lety +4

      Guy stresses me out so much lmao he starts screaming uncontrollably in public places

    • @calliopedollhouse259
      @calliopedollhouse259 Před 4 lety +3

      I loved him

  • @sna7627
    @sna7627 Před 4 lety +24

    I really don't get it anyway, season 1 was great, it was about Hannah, and the whole title is about Hannah. Now it's suddenly about fucking "who killed Bryce Walker"

  • @BugsyFoga
    @BugsyFoga Před 4 lety +6134

    The biggest problem is that there's Season 3 of this show .

    • @larissaquick6439
      @larissaquick6439 Před 4 lety +101

      Yea season 1 is the best

    • @poopityscoop839
      @poopityscoop839 Před 4 lety +258

      Period. I honestly don’t understand why my friends and classmates like this show and why it’s praised for being “So realistic” when there’s other shows that portray mental illness, death, rape, and suicide without glamming it up.

    • @damsapollo
      @damsapollo Před 4 lety +99

      even S2 is a mistake too.

    • @priyatiwari__
      @priyatiwari__ Před 4 lety +56

      And now they're gonna make season 4 too. ugh

    • @chawmila
      @chawmila Před 4 lety +56

      Honestly S2 was a must. Bc they showed every story has 2 sides. But this season was more like Riverdale and not necessary. Loved the character development but the season was so boring (bc of Ani mostly tbh)

  • @ShadowWolfe
    @ShadowWolfe Před 4 lety +256

    "Everyone is defined by the worst thing that happened to them" sounds like high school

    • @batistic2
      @batistic2 Před 4 lety

      They are in high school.. =)

    • @JJ-zm3ne
      @JJ-zm3ne Před 4 lety +1

      Cameron Field and everyone didn’t know about everyone else’s baggage

    • @truegirl2anna
      @truegirl2anna Před 4 lety +4

      Ummmm what high school did you go to lol?? Most kids didn’t give a damn about anyone elses’ problems unless it was within your immediate friend group. The worst thing I’ve ever seen is seeing a sophomore girl pregnant that “effected” the school, but that’s it. Or someone committing suicide.
      The day to day “omg Jessica kissed Jake” is so unrealistic and such a stereotypical high school move.
      Including all the parties in this show. Lol. This is more how college works if anything.

  • @GVP2012
    @GVP2012 Před 4 lety +208

    I find Jessica more annoying than Ani 😬 hypocrite! And Alex belongs in jail!

    • @BrightNeonBrilliancy
      @BrightNeonBrilliancy Před 4 lety +12

      What I don't like about Jessica is basically what he mentions in the video- she is literally defined by her trauma. Her entire life now revolves around being a victim. I know almost nothing about her as a person, her likes and dislikes, her goals after school. All I know about her is that she's a rape victim. Almost everyone in this show is just a walking trauma/ cliche. Sexual assault victims, drug addicts, crippled athletes, almost mass shooters, suicide survivor, teenage pregnancy. It's like the fucked up version of The Breakfast Club.

  • @edwardcollins8647
    @edwardcollins8647 Před 4 lety +31

    Alex was willing to help Bryce until he mentioned Zac

    • @user-pw8lt5tu7h
      @user-pw8lt5tu7h Před 4 lety

      Edward Collins that screams gay

    • @kideffron
      @kideffron Před 4 lety +2

      The kid's sick I mean his mood swings is a whole new level

  • @Yeodoongiiie
    @Yeodoongiiie Před 4 lety +650

    *AGREE* :)
    I honestly can't believe they ruined Alex' character like that :(

    • @kimani2286
      @kimani2286 Před 4 lety +54

      Violet Daisy his character was always ruined for me

    • @Jaxworld23
      @Jaxworld23 Před 4 lety +8

      even zach

    • @not-bv1ek
      @not-bv1ek Před 4 lety +4

      i hated alex

    • @Jordan-db2og
      @Jordan-db2og Před 4 lety +7

      He was an asshole from season 1

    • @kimiayazdani3295
      @kimiayazdani3295 Před 4 lety +19

      zach and alex were too good for do that horrible things in last 2 seasons. well alex had issues and he gets better but zach?!? i didn't like it at all!

  • @fabianholguin8516
    @fabianholguin8516 Před 4 lety +5

    Perfectly pointed out! Also I think another problem in the series is Clay, he actually is traumatized and have issues inside him that portrays into anger and obsession on the outside, but in the whole show he never ask for help, he never accepts it, even Justin at the end ask for help for the drug problem, and Clay seriously needs a therapist!!

  • @nancytodorova9287
    @nancytodorova9287 Před 4 lety +9

    Ani for 13 reasons why is like Carol Danvers in captain marvel. She appears from anywhere and suddenly everyone loves her and saves the world.

  • @irenenenene212
    @irenenenene212 Před 4 lety +240

    Season 4: *Hannah goes back to life*
    Me:
    *NaNi?!?*

  • @enoch1628
    @enoch1628 Před 4 lety +657

    13 reasons why had a drop in script writing, just like Riverdale.

    • @saruoack5700
      @saruoack5700 Před 4 lety +89

      It will never be as bad as Riverdale

    • @enoch1628
      @enoch1628 Před 4 lety +7

      @@saruoack5700 maybe, maybe not

    • @maiaaa6474
      @maiaaa6474 Před 4 lety +18

      @@enoch1628 ew 13rw is soooo Much better nooo

    • @enoch1628
      @enoch1628 Před 4 lety +18

      @@maiaaa6474 just because it's better than Riverdale doesn't mean it hasn't gone downhill

    • @makelizabeth272
      @makelizabeth272 Před 4 lety +21

      The show should've stuck to one season tbh.

  • @manavdhawan3313
    @manavdhawan3313 Před 4 lety +238

    Every episode was so long. It didn't need to be an hour for each episode.

    • @arecitem1811
      @arecitem1811 Před 4 lety +13

      Things like stranger things is worth it

    • @dae_da21
      @dae_da21 Před 4 lety +11

      @@arecitem1811 fuck no

    • @johndoe-mz6rz
      @johndoe-mz6rz Před 4 lety +16

      Yet you sat and watched them all

    • @urmomlol6988
      @urmomlol6988 Před 4 lety +3

      Manav Dhawan I don’t mind it, the more the better imo

    • @Hina621
      @Hina621 Před 4 lety +1

      Especially the last episode. There were so many times I thought it was over and there was time left

  • @ThatDoll25
    @ThatDoll25 Před 4 lety +13

    It doesn’t make sense for Clay to be one of the neediest characters, when he comes from a seemingly well balanced home. Where the hell did he get this hero complex from?
    I agree about glorifying trauma. I couldn’t put my finger on it until you said it but that describes this show to the T.

  • @oddysixl
    @oddysixl Před 4 lety +95

    Is the problem how they took a basically finished story and twisted to fit a power fantasy

  • @isaiahpanariso8827
    @isaiahpanariso8827 Před 4 lety +531

    Missed the opportunity for "13 reasons why I hate 13 reasons why season 3"

    • @LAC-bk2fo
      @LAC-bk2fo Před 4 lety +2

      Isaiah Panariso omg I did an IGTV on the third season and didn’t even think of thaz

    • @nullvoid9154
      @nullvoid9154 Před 4 lety +1

      You missed the opportunity to spell "opportunity" correctly. Your computer has autocorrect, right? How fucking difficult would that be for you to utilize?

    • @annaunicorn7623
      @annaunicorn7623 Před 4 lety +15

      Null & Void well aren’t you just a ray of sunshine?

    • @annaunicorn7623
      @annaunicorn7623 Před 4 lety

      Probably because there’s already an article titled that. Great minds think alike

    • @dupersupersteven
      @dupersupersteven Před 4 lety +8

      Null & Void I dont think computers have autocorrect lmao not mine at least. Don’t come at someone for their grammar. Nobody uses it on youtube

  • @DeanithForeverYoung
    @DeanithForeverYoung Před 4 lety +14

    I love your comedic videos but please to do more of this type , you're really good at it.

  • @cannonfod1346
    @cannonfod1346 Před 4 lety +31

    What I need to happen in S4:
    1. Jess and Alex goes to court for what they did, Ani too for being a shitty liar and basically disappear from the face of the earth Ani.
    2. Alex's dad lose his job and license for tampering with evidence (Mark, Ilysm but I really hate ur character here).
    3. More of Monty's back story.
    4. Tyler leaving all this shitty people behind and finally having a normal life, get as far away as possible from them Tyler.
    5. Lastly Clay finally gets a life of his own and stop minding other people's business after realizing Jess and Alex were willing to let him get arrested like what they did with Monty.

    • @niconetwork_wickedninja
      @niconetwork_wickedninja Před 4 lety

      So...... were you satisfied with season 4?

    • @cannonfod1346
      @cannonfod1346 Před 4 lety +4

      Nico Network
      Nope, not at all.
      I'm dead.
      Waste of time.
      Waste of money.
      Do people even actually think it was good? Seriously?
      Moral of the story: Life sucks and everything is okay as long as you have great friends to cover up your murder. The end.
      1. Ani in a nutshell, "I came into this time and fell in love with the people", still not enough of a reason to be in everyone's business and lying about a CRIME. I gotta say they did try their best not to make her not unlikeable because of all the hate she received.
      2. Alex is gay. They really tried, really really tried so hard to point out that the reason why his life sucks was because he was gay not the fact that he killed someone. I mean everyone else was having a much more harder time trying to cope with the fact that he was a killer and that they covered it all up than him. He was just too busy with his lovelife to care.
      3. Winston, you started great. Had a mission and that is to expose this hypocrites of their crime but then he fell in love and forgot just about everything. What even was the point of his character?
      4. Clay should have just left with his family and took Justin with him, or stayed far away from his "friends" as much as possible. Or had counseling after Hannah died, or minded his own business and just wallowed in self pity all by himself. Myabe he would have just been a fine emo boy at that point.
      5. Justin, was the only character with so much development and growth, they had to kill him to make the finale more dramatic even though it was pointless.
      6. You can get away with murder and framing someone up because your gay and Monty and Bryce deserved it. Not because you're a murderer and should be put in jail. Nope nope, being a "good person" erases the fact that you killed someone or having a cop father or be gay(I still cant believe they had to turn him gay because he didn't have enough crisis on his life). Friends are real great to help you get away with murder. Oh hey, they should have had that title "How to get away with murder" from the start instead of 13rw. They claimed Hannah was murdered by Bryce, Bryce and Monty was murdered, Justin was murdered by the show.
      Btw they were such great friends that even though Zach was an alcoholic and a druggie it was just bypassed and they never even tried to help him, they just forgot poor Zach.
      I'm sorry, I am venting. I wasted my time watching this shit. It was supposed to be a realistic look on bullying and rape but instead we get a show with no moral compass at all, that allows murderer to have a happy ending instead of paying for their crimes. Kinda moot considering they all wanted Bryce to pay for his crimes to Hannah and redemption on all your wrongdoings accidental or not. That was the point of the tapes to realize your past mistakes and try to be a better person. But instead, sigh, if was like they just decided to write whatever for the script and be done with it.

    • @zer0751
      @zer0751 Před 3 lety

      @@cannonfod1346 should have stopped in season 3. S1 and 2 where great. We saw the story and then how it affected everyone. Tbh S2 was a bit more dramatic and unrealistic but still ok. But then oh my god. All we wanted was a good happy, realistic ending. Why did we make clay into this shit person? Can’t he just date Sheri plz or sim shit like that? Who tf is Ani and why tf is he here? Jess and Alex need to go to prison. Poor Zach needs help. IMO this is what should have happened.
      Jess and Alex go to prison.
      Monty gets punished but is alive
      Ani doesn’t fucking exist
      Clay moved on, and isn’t portrayed as a jealous bitch and dates with Sheri.
      He moves on with his life with Justin, Zach, Sheri, Tony and Tyler.

    • @zer0751
      @zer0751 Před 3 lety

      @@cannonfod1346 and why did they ruin Zach?

  • @125loopy
    @125loopy Před 4 lety +1859

    I think this show is garbage but I really miss your video essays. Your style is gorgeous 😍

    • @mikam123
      @mikam123 Před 4 lety +1

      yessss i love your video essays!!

    • @sydstowe6163
      @sydstowe6163 Před 4 lety +7

      Agreed! I love this format

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq Před 4 lety +4

      Ditto, while I love the usual animations, I like this somber, introspective look as well. 😀

    • @megan_7086
      @megan_7086 Před 4 lety +1

      Same

    • @johndoe-mz6rz
      @johndoe-mz6rz Před 4 lety

      So you came here just to hate?

  • @emilyogiorumua4738
    @emilyogiorumua4738 Před 4 lety +310

    I wish they kept monty alive so they could explore the prison system

    • @larenaabdon4473
      @larenaabdon4473 Před 4 lety +9

      If only they mentioned how they died at least.

    • @charumathy4471
      @charumathy4471 Před 4 lety +1

      That's why they ended him in jail

    • @jennydelreal8267
      @jennydelreal8267 Před 4 lety +10

      Larena Abdon i believe they briefly said he was beat or killed in his cell which is really sad to me, even if he was a horrible person

    • @leonardoives7076
      @leonardoives7076 Před 4 lety +1

      I thought he killed himself in his cell

    • @jennydelreal8267
      @jennydelreal8267 Před 4 lety +7

      Leonardo Ives Alex’s dad tells ani during her confession that monty was killed by a fellow inmate but tbh we didn’t see a body so Monty might actually not be dead. Alex was presumed dead at the end of season 1, but came back season 2 so who knows

  • @megongaga1984
    @megongaga1984 Před 4 lety

    Please please please keep doing video essays! They are absolutely spectacular. Your editing is superb and your thoughts and take on things makes perfect sense. I admire you so much ❤️

  • @junkdogray420
    @junkdogray420 Před 4 lety +98

    season 1: Suicide is in-powering.
    season 2: School shooters are heroes.
    season 3: Rapist aren't all evil.
    season 4: Murder is morally right.

  • @daniabarajas3
    @daniabarajas3 Před 4 lety +1006

    Hannah is dead like let her Rest In Peace this show should have only had one season

    • @nullvoid9154
      @nullvoid9154 Před 4 lety +34

      So stop watching?

    • @kobeisgoated29
      @kobeisgoated29 Před 4 lety +35

      Then stop watching

    • @missmoxie9188
      @missmoxie9188 Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you

    • @ainsleyharriottsspicymeat8909
      @ainsleyharriottsspicymeat8909 Před 4 lety +12

      It should’ve had 2. It closed perfectly imo.

    • @Tyler1251tyler
      @Tyler1251tyler Před 4 lety +1

      Lizbeth Barajas no it shouldn’t of been one season that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard all these seasons are amazing nobody likes it Bc everyone thinks what they want is good or something that needs to happen when half of the people watching it don’t even know what’s happening 😂 if it was so bad nobody would be talking about it still good or bad you know you’ll watch season 4

  • @KarlaRodriguez-ku3fp
    @KarlaRodriguez-ku3fp Před 4 lety +2484

    Jessica's new sexual craving was very unnecessary.
    Ani's character was also unnecessary.
    The whole 3rd season was unnecessary.

    • @ivannapaisa3512
      @ivannapaisa3512 Před 4 lety +33

      Exactly!!

    • @supermulticouloured
      @supermulticouloured Před 4 lety +120

      season 1 and 2 were unnecessary also

    • @nullvoid9154
      @nullvoid9154 Před 4 lety +99

      The sex thing was unnecessary. Ani was annoying.
      I disagree. I enjoyed the third season for what it was and am looking forward to season 4.

    • @silkyslleep6427
      @silkyslleep6427 Před 4 lety +86

      @@nullvoid9154 I honestly don't want another season to occur. They have nothing more to add. The more they do the less realistic it gets, it should go to rest. Most loose ends were tied up so adding more just creates a bigger mess

    • @nullvoid9154
      @nullvoid9154 Před 4 lety +27

      @@silkyslleep6427
      That's just it. It's not meant to be therapeutic or anything of the sort. It's just another teen drama like any other. I mean c'mon it's exaggerated to all Hell. Realism was never a factor and it was never intended to prevent anything or take the place of an actual therapist. Producers were practically forced to slap the disclaimer on the show for the sake of the content. It's just a teen soap opera. Also, the guns lost in the river? Monty's "boyfriend" finding out about how he was framed? Do those not sound like loose ends? They do to me.

  • @LinaMadory
    @LinaMadory Před 4 lety

    I actually like your video essays! Your voice is very expressive and it adds life to your words!

  • @catherinedowdmellor3027
    @catherinedowdmellor3027 Před 4 lety +1

    don't get me wrong i live for your riverdale videos and other recaps of bad shows but i really really love these more serious deep dives they're so well done, i hope to see more of these in the future you're so great at them!

  • @abbydaniel3754
    @abbydaniel3754 Před 4 lety +193

    "the biggest problem with 13 Reasons Why season 3"
    My mind: Ani

  • @JumpinJaxs470748
    @JumpinJaxs470748 Před 4 lety +150

    I don’t know about anyone else but the reason I kept watching was Tyler’s character arc. (Yeah he helped cover up things as well) Devin Druid did an amazing job, I felt genuinely moved when he spoke about his rape and trauma, that I cried each time.
    Also Tony, I love Tony.
    But all the other characters were all very confusing.

    • @foreversimgirl828
      @foreversimgirl828 Před 4 lety +1

      Becky Miller I love tony. Tony is honestly the only reason why I watch this show tbh. 😂

  • @mayachi6464
    @mayachi6464 Před 4 lety +11

    I actually enjoyed this season more than the other 2. The other two seasons to me seemed like “oops she’s dead what a shame :(“ but season 3 made me realize that nothing in this world is black and white, that everything is in a gray space and that no one is truly, truly completely evil.

  • @sonquillazhane6752
    @sonquillazhane6752 Před 4 lety +1

    Please please be doing season 4 now, i love your take

  • @lilgod3132
    @lilgod3132 Před 4 lety +1013

    my problem with the show is how hard it prides itself on being realistic but how absolutely far removed from reality it actually is. besides getting obvious legal things right, the the writers seem to have no idea how the world, and by extension teenagers, are like. and the thing is, they don't want to learn. they don't listen to the opinions of experts on how to deal with certain things. a good example was the complete 180 they on Bryce's character. they portrayed him as a one dimensional, sex-obsessed villain for two whole seasons, and then suddenly want to make him a good guy again? that kind of change doesn't happen in less than a year. i'm not saying that people that do horrible things can't ever get better, but the writers don't seem to understand that this kind of change takes a lot of time. bryce was clearly portrayed to think of women as objects and had uncontrollable sexual urges, and it would realistically take a lot of time and therapy to be able to get him out of that. but instead of showing a process, the writers were just like "yo what if he just like respects women now all of the sudden" ad called it character development. it completely lacks subtlety. you don't just become a good guy overnight. they clearly had no ideas for the third season and decided to make up the whole bryce arc so last minute. thank you for reading my essay i got carried away..

    • @dollysolon1236
      @dollysolon1236 Před 4 lety +25

      It's a TV show, it was already assumed that a lot of things had already happened. And of course Bryce didn't changed overnight, that's why they had back stories, going back and forth. It was assumed that it was already a year later from the timeline of season 2. We can't cover an entire whole year of event for a show. What?! 🤦🏻

    • @mercyxmutual
      @mercyxmutual Před 4 lety +17

      You're right in saying things don't happen overnight but I think the bigger goal was to show it *can* happen. Bryce showed that he understood that he was still fucked before he was killed but the more important thing is he wanted to change and I personally believe that desire can easily be triggered from the trial, ostracism and general shit he endured after being exposed as asshat rapist. People want to be liked. Even if he didn't make any severe real progress on the inside, I think it's completely plausible to come to the conclusion that within a year he could've been heading in a decent direction. He wasn't perfect on the bridge. Clearly. But he was better.
      Side note: not excusing what he did. Asshat rapist in the past. But I believe he didn't want to be that anymore. At the very least.

    • @NovaKnight_
      @NovaKnight_ Před 4 lety +12

      mercyxmutual I agree with the OP, you can’t dispel realism just to prove someone *can* change in a couple of months. It doesn’t take a couple of months in reality to change a serial rapist, there’s too much psychological unpacking to do. If he was just a generic ‘I shove kids in lockers’ guy, sure, but he was a serial rapist. I get showing someone has the ability to change and reflect, but his change of heart wasn’t realistic at all-which matters since the show prides itself on ‘realism’ and ‘showing real issues, unfiltered blah blah blah’.

    • @user-mp3su3xg3r
      @user-mp3su3xg3r Před 4 lety +8

      nah, bryce's character development was on point, i actually felt for the dude

    • @lilgod3132
      @lilgod3132 Před 4 lety +16

      to all the people saying it’s just a tv show, y’all ignored my point about how the writers constantly suck their own cocks about how their portrayal of issues is ~so realistic~. if they didn’t say how true to life their show is every five fucking minutes i’d have less of a problem with it.

  • @queenkatara7861
    @queenkatara7861 Před 4 lety +883

    Bryce: *R*pes Jessica while she’s barely conscious*
    *R*pes Hannah and is one of the biggest reasons why she killed herself*
    *Does the same to his own girlfriend Chloe*
    *Freaks out on Zach for getting closer to Chloe*
    *Scares a little kid when he’s tRyInG tO cHaNgE*
    *Says he’s r*ped 8 or 9 other girls but isn’t even sure how many*
    *Beats up characters*
    *Covers up Monty beating up Winston because Monty’s clearly “one of the only good ones left”*
    *Is a drug dealer*
    *On top of all the terrible things he’s done, he tries to prove his innocence last season and doesn’t accept the consequences of his actions in any way, shape, or form*
    13 Reasons Why writers: Bryce was a good person in the end and trying to change.

    • @shayla106
      @shayla106 Před 4 lety +166

      Yeah using Ani to try to humanize him felt wrong. People know rapists are human, but he did a fucked up things and it can’t be justified. However, I hope all the main characters got Jain for breaking the law. Murder, accessory to murder, and hiding information pertaining to the murder. Just like Bryce actions can’t be excused they can’t excuse their actions.

    • @latinalover26
      @latinalover26 Před 4 lety +79

      Season lesson: how to get away with murder

    • @latinalover26
      @latinalover26 Před 4 lety +4

      Season 3*

    • @Shadowashai
      @Shadowashai Před 4 lety +5

      Really well said

    • @mr.miscellaneous1079
      @mr.miscellaneous1079 Před 4 lety +54

      But he was trying to change tho. One of the point of this seasons was mainly to show you that people you perceive to be "monsters" aren't entirely monsters, as in they have lives that aren't related to the negative things they do to a person, Byrces friends are conflicted on how to feel about his death cause of how supportive he was in their life and how he was a brother to them when in need i.e Justin and Monty, his mother was distraught at her son who she very much was appalled at because he's a rapist by dying because there's no chance to change anymore, as she personally got to see him try to be better with therapy and trying to fix their estranged relationship, all this is gone now and no longer possible. Ani who spent the most time with him, eveen tho she's been here the least amount of time, got to see his most positive sides compared to any other character and even grieved his death because she truly believed he didn't deserve it, hell even Jessica his victim didn't think he deserved to die.
      Now did he relapse into past behavior like dealing drugs and harming people? yes ofc he did, that's part of the improvement process. People fall back into old bad habits regardless if they want to or not, they don't simply change without hurdles just cause they want to, i.e Justins drug problem, Jessicas never ending battle with her assault, Clays constantly overlooked mental health concerns and lack of self worth, Alex re-attempting to suicide. Im not sure what you're trying to point out ( i would like to note that the writers did a horrendous job with making bryce the worst rapist ever and then trying to see if he's redeemable in this one, they're basically two different people now and it's jarring)

  • @macealred4135
    @macealred4135 Před 4 lety

    video essays are my favorite! please make more!!!

  • @andreaavina6446
    @andreaavina6446 Před 4 lety +1

    Tyler made me realised that things do get better and it takes a long time to see the positive change. There is going to be bad days but also good days and you have to keep going to get where you want to be.