(1761) COMPX USPS Lock
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 20. 08. 2020
- Here's a new COMPX lock designed for the outside USPS boxes. Not a lot to it so I gutted it after picking just because I could.... not easy, mind you, but with the application of enough force I got it open.
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Bill. This lock for for the lock boxes you find in apartment building and in new neighborhoods. Also known as gang boxes by the post office. They come in two configurations. Clockwise and Counter Clockwise. And they are key retaining. This means the key will not come one when you open the lock. You must close the door on the mailbox and lock it back to release the key. They are not 30.00. I am a locksmith and pay around 7.00 or 8.00 for them from my supplier. They are all 5 pin locks and no security pins in them at all. You are correct the 6th pin is the retainer pin. If you remove that pin you can slip the plug out the housing (bible). Compex is the lock company that used to me National Lock company. You are correct the pins are very small and very hard to work with. Most people just drill out them and replace the lock when you have no key. However I have had times when In the field that I had to make a key because I did not have the correct lock on my van. They are a pain to take apart. Like you showed in the video getting the cap off is the hardest part and not ending up cutting your fingers. To replace the cap I will teach you a nice trick. Take the cap and put it in your vise and put a bend down the middle of the cap. It will look like a "V". Now put your pins and springs back in the lock. Place the "V" shaped cap on and hit it with a small hammer. It will flatten down and go under the groves on the housing and you are good to go. This trick can be used with any top cap that works this way. Take Best SFIC cores and Falcon they have some that use a flat plate just like this one. You do the same thing to cap them down.
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Yep I couldn't agree with you more. The cost is between $6.50-8.50 from suppliers.
I have had to make a key for one as I didn't have the correct replacement in the truck. Happens to the best of us. đ
Thanks for sharing.
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I hate it for him if he payed $30. We get them with shipping for about $13 now in 2023. Thanks Kenney for the tip on the bible retainer. I will certainly be trying that out.
I read the title as Complex USPS Lock.....
So did I and then I saw your comment and went "awh. Shit"
Guilty also.
I saw Complex USP lock and I was like wow complex is a pretty ballsy name for a.... oh
Well, Bill saw it as Compex L. Or maybe it's Brutish, Compex ÂŁ1172
I did too. Y'all aren't alone
"Why do I bother gutting stuff?"
Because successful or not, it's always entertaining!
Bill has had a self picking lock, a self gutting and now one that tries to put your eye out if you mess with it.
Done that more than once myself, time to find the pieces and start over, it is funny when it happens to someone else, thanks Bill
Morning Bill, CompX is the new name for Chicago lock company
Bill. Sometimes I wonder how your hands got so scarred. And then along comes these videos to remind me. Be careful mate! Hate to see you hurt.
Comp-x is s owned by Hudson Lock, which owns National and a handful of other brands. They make the vast majority of cam locks you'll find in the US.
That lock is a replacement for the CBU's (Cluster Box Units) found in many apartments and most new residential developments. It's actually a 9000 series lock, the 9100 turns the other direction, controlled by 6th pin and how the slot is milled in the back of the core.
The number on the front of the lot is the post office spec it's built to.
30$ is high retail price, can be bought from most wholesalers under 10$.
@saintquinn007 2 min with a step drill and a flat head screwdriver always worked for me.
So are these locks like doorking locks ? I'm about to start working in a huge apartment complex, trying to get every tool possible. Thanks
@@1painter4hire Unless I'm mistaken, Doorking makes electric access control boards, not actual locks. Their enclosures are usually secured with a cheap wafer lock. You can find the keys for those all over ebay, unless someone has had the sense to upgrade it.
AR-15 builders everywhere see the springs flying, yup, been there! đ
Cool video thanks man
Bill: Lets stick with the plan.
Lock: I have other plans.
I had a post office lock picked and jammed in Lancing Kansas many years ago. I had a credit card stolen from it. The post master said it wasnât possible. I asked him to show me one. I picked it in under a minute.
His jaw dropped.
Some locks just fight u every step of the way. Great vid as always Bill. Thanks for the laughs.
Hi, Bill. It's true that small locks are sometimes less convenient to open than large ones. That is very true for guys with big thumbs! Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!
It's even harder for guys with 10 thumbs, which is obviously not BB
I heard the name Bosnian Bill hundreds of time on LPL's channel. Now I have heard and seen the hands of the man behind the legendary Bosnian Bill's pick
Awesome... i loved how everything just flew around...
The amount of dedication you have to your channel is incredible. Like from the give aways to the 1761 unique intros (at least music wise.) like that's extra work for each video, completely unnecessary, but this is the only channel I've ever seen to do that. Love it and love it all
Actually, Bill, I believe that is a lock for a parcel locker. The locker you would find at the mail area at your apartment complex to get your package out of.
As a mailman I deal with these locks every day.
Personally, I just got a PO box and the key that I have is very different. Much longer.
Those locks are used at many mailboxes in California. I deal with them often as a locksmith
@@2815Juan oh, okay. I'm just going by my personal observation. Apparently things are set up differently in different areas.
These are on my apt mail locker. Mine rakes open as fast as the key opens it.
@@TeachAllNations In Denmark, Europe, these are usually configured to use the same key as the home itself. Houses and small communities are required by the postal service to put these boxes at the front of the driveway (like a traditional US flag waving mailbox, but without the flag). As our postal service teeters on the brink of bankruptcy, that requirement was passed to save on wages for mail carriers. Dominant box brand is MEFA. Dominant lock brand is obviously ASSA Ruko, who throw in a replacement cylinder when buying a set of keyed-alike home locks, such as the 228000-series DIY kits.
They are used on customer boxes in cbuâs cluster box units and on parcel lockers, in our small town we have over 3500 boxes from 8 to 16 unit boxes in each and they come with out or with 1-2 parcel lockers each. We replace 15-20 locks a day. They cost about $5 each. When we remove them they go in a tub till we have thousands of them then take them to the scrap yard.
I'm pretty familiar with these locks! I work in apartment maintenance, our mailboxes have these locks, some of them have real awful biting and I have been wondering how easy theyd be to pick. Really cool to see today thank you Bill
Always awesome to see an industry pro screw up the gutting!đâđđșđŠđș
I have followed your videos for almost three years just to see the misery when you disassemble the locks. Cheers from Sweden.
I quite literally almost uploaded a video about you and this lock today. When you called the last one a unicorn lock, and were surprised by the lack of security pertaining to picking, I was surprised to say the least. It was the video that made realize youre not a retired locksmith as I thought. Lol.
These locks are for multi units. The security is all for physical attacks. Not picking. The taper on the outer body, the stainless pins, the very heavy duty cam, etc.
I imagine that since tampering with the mail is a felony they don't feel the need to use super secure locks.
That's a misconception, once it's in the mailbox that it's intended for, it's no longer a felony. The felony is just during the period where the sender puts it into the mailbox to when USPS delivers it. On a side note, I used to work for one of the major delivery services and stealing things out of the distribution centers is a felony.
Part of the reason that these locks are so weak is that the hardware they go into is also pretty weak. I had the mailbox that the USPS uses for my apartment pryed open one time. Also, the lock you personally install only affects the ability of people to get your mail, the one that the USPS installs that opens the entire front is the one that people are most likely to actually pick. But, even there, they're more likely to just pry the front of it off.
Thanks as always Bill love the work!
Good luck Mr.Bill putting it back in the right order.
Great job, picking and gutting !!! Any gutting you can walk away from is a good gutting.... ;)
Stay safe Bill, springs are shooting all over the place. đđ Thanks for sharing a laugh at the end of the week was what I needed. Educative as always. đ
Good luck finding those springs Bill , Awesome video.
You are the best, the real deal hands down and almost with missing fingers.
Lovely to see that your human like the rest of us when it comes to gutting a lock and everything flies all over the place.. Nice one ;-)
We had a PO box when I was a kid in the 80:s. The locks on those were Abloy Profile as almost everything needing at least some security has Abloy locks here in Finland.
LOL!! Haven't had a good gutting f-up in a long time. Funny and informative..thanks!!!
We use those compex locks on the mailbox "clusters" at some of the office buildings we maintain at work. Had never attempted to gut one, but I'm sure I'd have done it in similar fashion! Thanks for the video, and the gutting chuckle Bill!
Miss you Bill.
Thanks Bill
Happy retirement!!!
We have these in my condo complex in Chicagoland. I bought one of these locks because I was curious and didn't want to pick my own mailbox lol. Wasn't difficult to get open.
Im happy to see Im not the only one that sometimes messes their gutting
Iâve got several of those locks. They rake open super easy.
Boiiing! :D Lovely little lock.....don't think I'd be able to handle the pins without a magnifying glass - so tiny!
lol funny stuff bill maybe need to make a blooper reel thanks bill
When I saw that sharp awl down by his fingertips, I thought; no way does this end well. But, I'm glad that it did.
Before finishing the video Iâm thinking itâs gonna be a quick open. Which makes me think hopefully part of the âsecurityâ at the post office is cameras watching the boxes...
AND you mentioned security cameras. đ.
Enjoyed the video!
Bill, This lock is used in my office mailbox. Outside boxes in strip mall style office.
Another good video!!
Leeroy Jenkins!!!!! Stick with the plan, stick with the plan⊠dammit Leeroy!! Lol
I've missed watching your videos.
We did hope for some blood but we got a gutting disaster. Great video đ
Bill did it so we don't have to. Thanks for that one! So a drill hole over the retaining pin position will allow for core extraction, if you have a suitable follower. Certainly not worth $30 though.
We have community mailboxes and these locks are the only ones that fit them.
happy retirement buddy
These locks are for post boxes at apartments, condos, etc where they have banks of post boxes. They generally take a NA-12 or NA-14 keyblank. They can usually be raked open pretty quickly.
they use those locks on gangbox mailboxes on the side of the road. As a matter of fact, that is the exact model number on our lock and it is the same format. on our (and the rest of our neighborhood's mailboxes; there are no cameras, just a cluster of mailboxes on the shoulder of the road.
Thanks, just picked one in my apartment complex looking for a lost package.
I've played with one of these theyre the type you find in thĂ· usually grey bunch of boxes in neighborhoods like apartments or trailer communities
That's how some of my recent guttings have turned out.
I get my replacement ones on eBay for around $5.00 each with shipping. My boxes are at a rental complex of mine and are outside boxes. Im sure these are not as good of quality of the COMPX ones but they do the job I need them to.
Hey... it's like the old filing cabinet locks you can buy back in the day at Office Depot
It's a similar design. There's a circlip on the back which holds it in place. I've never tried, but I suspect that if you push really hard on the lock that the clip will snap and the lock will fall into the mailbox.
I haven't tried it for obvious reasons, but the whole mailbox set up is really insecure. It's not so bad if the mailboxes are behind a locked door, but if they're outside, especially on the street, they can be quite vulnerable to all manner of attacks. That's one of the reasons why it's so important to get your mail every day or have it held at the post office when you're traveling.
HAHA, cool you published this one Bill. Proof that even for the experts you will have one every now and then "blow up" in your hands and go on the wings of the wind!! :)
Just like a NASCAR race: nobody actually cares about the race, we just want to see the accident at the end.
I replace 5-10 of these a week, so I got tired of buying them. I built a Rekey kit from the 100+ old locks I had, and made some depth/space keys from old keys I had, and now I rekey them. That's $20 each in my pocket...
We use that exact lock on our Community Mail Boxes in Canada, just doesn't say USPS on the lock. I'm pretty sure the actual boxes are made by the same company. I will remember the name tomorrow when I check my mail again(lol)
Ouch! Watching you do that to a Victorinox was painful.
I agree.
Me: You misspelled "complex" in the title
/starts video
Me: You misspelled "CompX" in the title
Thank you for so many years a dedicated and knowledgeable service. Enjoy your well earned retirement, time with family, and be content in the understanding that youâve given more than just a wealth of experience to many of us. Youâve also given us a model to aspire to in our work and procedure. God bless.
Our little "subsection" of about 12 houses has a box with 16 doors and it uses this lock and key for the doors. There is zero security and seemingly could actually be broken into since it's located a couple hundred feet from the closest house and separated by a train track, so that if you planned an attack when the train went by nobody could stop you and it would be difficult to be identified by anyone with a train blocking most of your view of the thief and car.
I would like to see more information on the notch on the bottom of the key and how that works.
I put 1000's of these in, of course, I had the Arrow key that opens the whole box, so I just removed the clip holding the lock in and replaced it.
Sometimes I think you just like giving us an adrenaline boost when you start waving the sharp tools around. That probe! My testicles have finally returned to their proper location now...
Out of all the mailbox cylinders CompX is the easiest to install attributed to their precision.
The C stands for clockwise. I replaced one of these yesterday in a luxury condo.
Fun videos to watch, but what should you do if you see someone picking a lock?
Can you make a video explaining which pick to use in which situation? I bought a bunch of picks but I donât know the difference between them. Thanks
You worked on one of these in video 1446.
When CZcams goes 3D we'll have a great time with exploding locks...
Pop goes the weasel !
Made me laugh Bill
I just had to drill one out.I drilled a hole just above the key slot.I'm aiming for the pins or just above them.Second drill bit little larger diameter did the trick
Lol i love your gutting jobs
Haven't seen Bill do that in over a year or 2.
These are impossible to find keyed alike. I'd love to know how to rekey these things.
Hey Bill CompX has at least 4 underling's. National being 1.
You needed a "SPROING" sound effect for that.
Hi where you buy your naperon sparow ?
How much tension pressure do YOU (personally) use Mr. Bill?
I know it's a lot of work bill but it would be great if you could upload everyday!!!
How much pressure do you use on your tensioner?
YOU FORGOT TO SHIM IT! XD
Bottom of the key way tension and a wave take opens these in a minute every time.
Tenants loose their keys a lot.
My PO box was just upgraded to these locks, I lost the lock lotto however, my key is cut perfectly flat.
I think that lock is meant to secure the game Perfection which is why when your time was up all the pins ejected themselves from the lock body.
Bill you already had lock exactly the same like this one episode 1446...
interesting video . Is there any pick set worth buying on Amazon in the 50 dollar range
I know I'm not Bill, but your best bet is to spend 10-20 more at Sparrows.com for their wizwazzle or another similar set from them. They won't bend or break nearly as easily as anything from Amazon, and the little bit of extra money is very well worth it. I started with a cheap $40 set and replaced them almost immediately after bending a couple within a few days of practice from them not being made nearly as well.
@@jameshall1300 Ok thanks its just easier for me to order from amazon some places don't ship to Canada
Gutting is not Bill's strong suit. Great start to the day tho.
I tried to re-pin one of those acrylic dimple locks and found out it had tiny pins like that. They had a diameter of only 0.084" and I have no idea where to find pins that small. I can't even find brass rod that size. So it looks like I finally have a real excuse to buy a metal lathe. Time to start buying lottery tickets and hope for the best.
Those are probably 2mm pins, search for those.
@@johndododoe1411 thanks! I'll look for them. Do you know what brand name uses them?
@@parapicktog7734 No, I just converted 84 thou to metric to check if it's a pretty number that a factory might choose. Technically, 2mm is 0.079" while 2.1mm is 0.083" so your measured 0.084" could be one of those. There might even be stock brass rods in those sizes, once you search in metric. Similarly, odd looking metric sizes are often imperial sizes. Searching the web points to AWG 12 wire being near that size range too. Remember that acrylic is not as precisely made as brass and steel, so the acrylic bible may have been drilled with a common drill size and smaller pins inserted to move freely.
@@johndododoe1411 I measured the holes too, and it's pretty tight tolerances. Also searched for brass rods. I got lots for schlage and kwikset, and made a lot of my own custom pins, but the only thing I could find in 2mm was aluminum and it's way too soft. That's why I am seriously considering buying one of those "mini lathes" and use files and emery cloth to take the 0.115 rod down to 0.084. BTW: almost all styles of those acrylic locks can be re-pinned. If it uses a pin stack, there is just a cover over the bible and if you figure out how to remove that then you can top load it. Great for someone like me, technically smart and mechanically inclined, but don't yet have the finesse and skill with picks. I load the up with security pins, then I can see what's going on and learn how it feels while picking, so I can learn how to identify security pins by feel.
Damn shame what happened to the tip of that Victorinox knife blade!
I love exploding locks especially when it gose off on others lol
At least it wasn't a wafer lock. For what it's worth it seems to be a decent lock.
Maybe you could use a m8 to machine screw as a follower.
"I hate to pull a knife out, but ..." Your hands being uncharacteristically free of fresh wounds, this was already making me uneasy.
"Alright, let's stick with the plan --" New lockdown project.