An HK cinematographer used a mirrorless, the Panasonic GH5s to make a cinema-released movie(Part 2)
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In Part 1, I shared some of my experience on how I decided to use the Lumix's GH5s to make a movie. In this Part 2, I will share with you some of my testing work beforehand for making the decision and also the test results.
(A Hong Kong cinematographer used a mirrorless camera, the Panasonic Lumix GH5s to make a movie last year. Although shooting movies with mirrorless cameras is not new, it is still not very common. People will question the quality of the images, otherwise why must we use those very expensive cameras for movie making? In addition, if it is really implemented, what should be paid attention to?)
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Lumix GH4, Lumix LX100, DJI Osmo Pocket for CZcams footages
Lumix GH5s, DJI Mavic 2 Pro for the movie “Embrace”
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This was the most comprehensive review of the GH5S that I’ve seen in the past two days of endless videos thanks Mr. Wong .also the images from the movie look excellent👌
Hi, thank you very much for your comment and support
Great to hear the opinion of a real film maker! Actually the best review I have seen so far on the GH5s and the BMPCC.
Hi, thank you so much for your watching and appreciation
This video and the pictures of a trailer are so far the best images and explanations of gh5s I've ever seen on youtube.Great stuff!
Finally a voice from the field... Incredible review Mr Wong and incredible example of how art can match a budget tecnology to get incredible results. I'm becoming your fan about filmaking!
Hi, really thank you so much for your appreciation. Seems you are also a filmmaker. Yes, technology today really gives us more flexibility. thank you again for your support.
GREAT comprehensive video. Thank you for the great work.
hi Rock, thank you very much for your support
After this there's no way I'm not watching the movie. Thank you so much for the breakdown
thank you Meh
This is the best thing I saw on yt in a last two years. Thank you Mister Wong, you just show us what is a true filmmaker is. Greetings from Serbia.
Hi, thank you very much for your watching and support. I am very happy about your appreciation and know one more friend from Serbia. thank you
This 2 part video was the best crtique for any camera i have seen as a filmmaker. I wish you make more videos like these 🙏
Hi Ishwar, thank you for your support and I will try my best to continue and make such kinds of videos though the viewing rates are still very low at this moment. Thank you again
You get great colours out of the gh5s ! Good stuff
Thank you for this teaching. Really appreciate it. Your experience is priceless.
hi, thank you for your watching and appreciation
@@pinghungwong9732 welcome sir, but my words will never be equal to your decades of experience in film making.
@@Mraz75 hi friend, no la...every decade or every era has its own heros (outstanding guys), although it is my honor to gain appreciation of others, the greatest gain is I can have to know more friends
Great Video! I have a Gh5 and am looking to get an s1h or the BGH1, this was a good review for the BGH1 since its the same sensor as the Gh5s
Yes, plus there seems some modifications on both the dynamic range and auto-focus in the BGH1. Thanks for watching and support
Love this and the examples too of GH5S being used in your movie production are awesome.
Very nice to have your comment and thank you very much for your watching and support
Apart from learning the great technical details I have become interested to watch your movies! Thanks.
Hi,...sure it is my pleasure...I will notice when there is internet version, thank you for your appreciation
Thank you. Great video, so much knowledge in your video
thank you for your watching and support
These information will be helpfull to choose my next camera, thanks
Thanks for watching and support
Very educational thank you. I am considering the gh5s because of a limited budget :)
thank you....yes, GH5s is a very good camera up to nowaday's standard
Amazing! I bought both. GH5S and BMPCC 4K. Together with Sirui's Anamorphic lenses both are amazing and cineatic.
I have not put my camera to the test as you have. I am grateful for these two videos on the GH5s. Happy shooting.
Thank you. Yes, it is not a must to have a test since today's cameras are all good. It is just a habit developed in the years of shooting film. But of course, a test will let us have a better understanding of the camera. Thank you again.
I know I've drooled enough over your videos explaining in detail the GH5s and soaking up your knowledge of equipment. But I would absolutely love if you could do a video on exposure and how you go about achieving the best exposure for your projects. Next I would love to know about how you setup your shots for manual focus to get a crisp sharp shot when moving. This may be your lens choice and not something us amateurs can afford at this time lol but still I would love to get your expertise on how you tackle these two subjects. Thanks so much!
UPDATE: NEVERMIND - I just had to watch more of your amazing videos to see your Latitude test (how you get good exposure)! - Man, Amazing. So incredibly easy to understand. You didn't use anything extra to do it. Nothing I have to buy, no external monitors to watch, Genius man! - I watched that one part at least 5 times to grasp what you were saying. Once again, I am in awe of your talent and knowledge. Thank you a million times for this wonderful education.
Hi Carmen, thank you so much again for your support. Yes, I'm going to step by step in sharing my experience in filmmaking. I will seriously take your idea for my future topics. I am really really happy that I can help you and stimulate you more interest in filmmaking. Cheers
And yes...do me a favor by sharing my videos with others if possible. Sure I want to get more audience all over the world. Thank you very much
Even years later, a real pleasure to watch, and great advises. Thank you !! Did you use any lut on your movie or straight Vlog/Cinelike D with Rec709 ?
Awesome video! I loved part 1 and 2 - now I’m going to watch all hour other videos. As others have said, would love to watch your films! Going to try to check them out. I recently upgraded from the Sony a6000 to the Panasonic gh5. I wanted the gh5s but it was not in the budget, but so far I’m loving the gh5, low light it’s not the best but it produces a beautiful image and has that great image stabilization.
Firstly, thank you very much for your watching and appreciation. Yes, GH5 is also a very good "movie" camera. As I told in my CZcams movie, there were many theatre movies made with the GH5. And you may film it with ProRes RAW now. If we are not hungry for the extra 1 to 2 stops dynamic range, I think GH5 will still be capable of filming for a certain period. Thank you for your support.
Very detailed explanation of a real-world use of a camera (even if I didn't understand every technical thing). I looked around CZcams for discussions on using mirrorless cameras for feature films and this probably the most comprehensive. Kinda killed me though because I own 8-bit recording cameras.
10-bit is better but 8-bit can still make good pictures...as I said someone used mobile to make a movie. good cinematography mustn't count a good camera. so...just do it...story and feel are much more important than the equipment. thank you for watching
@@pinghungwong9732 Thanks for taking the time to reply, Sir. Highly appreciated. I hope to have a simple material for a full-length film soon.
@@mistermastermind528 feel free to come to me for any information and I am looking forward to your movie. thank you
@@pinghungwong9732 I probably will. Thanks!
The Panasonic Gh5s and Panasonic S5 and Panasonic S1 and S1h are all on my shopping list over the next four years
For film making…the GH5S won’t disappoint. It’s as professional as it gets. 10 bit, 4.2.2. Gotta luv it.
yes, totally agree
Footage is fantastic!
Thank you
We have your helper to thanks,
Superb video and movie! Great job!
thank you very much
Hi Ping,
Keep up the good work! I own Panasonic GH4, Fuji X-T3, Sony a7r3, a6100, and FS700r. I am glad to see a professional filmmaker like you doing this kind of video. Keep it up. Really appreciate your work. From Toronto (GTA), Canada. Let me know if you want to do any collaboration when you are coming to Toronto. Would like to learn from you regarding filmmaking. I am not a professional but want to start filmmaking (short films, & documentaries). I just subscribed to your channel. Thanks.
Great. Start making films as well as your dreams. Share with me your works, your gears are capable in terms of technicality. Sure, I will come to you for any projects when I go to Canada. Finally, thank you so much for your support
@@pinghungwong9732 I am more a science and computer guy who loves discovering things. I do videos on how to's, tech & gadgets, science, math, creative works and Christianity. In the future, I would like to do short films and documentaries like David Suzuki but a Christian version of him. A scientist who loves God and His creation. I want to understand the world we are living in and make sense of it all. My background is medicine & science. I have lots of scientific equipment. Thanks for your encouragement. Again, keep up the good work and will definitely collaborate in the future.
@@educatetube yes, keep it up and your gears can help you to create very good docu or short films. I am looking forward to watching them
This is amazing! Thank you!
thank you for watching
@@pinghungwong9732 I was wondering where I could stream this movie online. Is it available for rent?
@@TheElectroFalcon sorry that still not yet at this moment. Once it's available I will inform those who feel interested in it. Thank you very much again for your support
@@pinghungwong9732 Awesome! Great to see some amazing work from a fellow Christian filmmaker.
@@TheElectroFalcon thank you very much again...and keep support my channel , thx thx
I`m happy that I come across this great video. Ping Hung WONG, thank you very much for your detailed explanation what is important in choosing camera, as a cinematographer, to make a cinema-released movie. It`s very helpful information, thank you!
Hi, thank you for your appreciation and support. Share with me your works or any experience. Thanks again for watching.
I know these are older videos, but would you consider making a video for those who still own the GH5 and GH5s on the specific settings you use? You went over your custom function buttons and Picture profiles, but more precise settings would be great.
Also, does that mean, all the night scenes in Embraced were shot in Cine D?
If so, another request would be how you color grade, Vlog, and Cine D in DaVinci, this would be valuable info. Thank you my talented Hong Kong friend.
ok, I'm just thinking if I'm still talking GH5....no one gets interested. OK, no problem, I can do that in the coming video
and yes, btw, all night scenes were shot with Cine-D
@@pinghungwong9732 incredible!! I love shooting in CineD, would be great if you showed how you work with it in post in DaVinci, how you further grade it.. thanks agains!
@@zandermai2220 yes, I will try my best to share, thank you for your support
@@zandermai2220 good suggestion...I will try to arrange this topic in the short coming future, thank you
Great video. Great review. And looks like a good movie too.
Thank you Sean
Great information! Btw where can I see your short film? Would love to see your beautiful craft. Thank you so much!
Hi, thank you for your support first. This film is going to be released in the HK cinema a few weeks later. and after HK screening, the distribution will make plans for overseas viewing. Of course, I would like it to be watched by people from around the world. thanks again for your watching.
I m also thankful for this video, I hv Gh5 and looking to see some sample films to understand the quality I can achieve. I would like to see ur movie, which is embrace" and please share gh5 color style & grading also. thanks a ton.
First, thank you for your watching and support. OK, I try to share something about color and grading and especially on the Lumix camera in the coming future, thank you again
This is awesome, thanks so much for these videos. Is there/will there be a full behind-the-scenes video where we can see the full production?
Hi, thank you for your appreciation first. BTW, I got other videos of using the GH5s in the movie.
czcams.com/video/Y8LiwoYMmnU/video.html
czcams.com/video/eYzVX0Jzihk/video.html
But there may not be a video about the making of. Hope that you will watch that and give me some comments at your convenience. Thank you again.
Beautiful imagery in the trailer
Hi, thank you for watching and your appreciation
Great work man!
Hi, thank you very much
Hello ! Very great videos ! Thanks for sharing your experience :) I always love to see what people can do with cheap cameras !
I have some questions.
I own a GH5S and before that I used a lot the BMPCC 4K.
The graphic that you show at 2:59 was very helpfull for me because I was able to see the repartiton of dynamic above and under middle gray.
I know that such a graphic doesn't exist for the GH5S but maybe because you used this camera to make a movie (congrats for that !) you know a little more about it.
If you have some informations it would be very helpfull for me because I think that the repartition of dynamic range is very obscure and strange for this cam and doesn't really match with the Panasonic indications about the native ISO.
Some people say that the iso 400 and 1600 are the best in V-LOG-L for less noise, some found other results...
Well I was wondering if you have informations about this subject because I (and some more people) don't have the feeling to master completly this great camera.
Thank you very much, hope I see your movie one day !
Cheers from France !
Native iso of the gh5s is 800/2500 or 800/3200. I‘m not sure, but I thought it was 800/2500
Great video
I want to make a film the way you did with the Panasonic gh5s and Panasonic S1H and Panasonic S5 and Sony A74.
On the Panasonic S5 and Panasonic S1H and Sony A74 I will film in Super 35mm mode in 1080HD 24fps
I will suggest...if the camera can offer 4K or even higher resolution, use the highest will give you the best result
@@pinghungwong9732 Ok excellent
Really great video 🙏.. amazing and Inspiring information.. thank you for making such beautiful video....I also want to ask you is meike Mft cinema lenses good for GH5S ..bcoz I heard GH5S has a little wider sensor..is it true? can I use meike Mft cinema lenses for GH5S for feature film?
Yes, GH5s gets a wider sensor. And actually, for cinema release, it is just roughly a 2K resolution, so Meike lenses are not a problem at all. Go ahead to film it, looking forward to your film.
@@pinghungwong9732 thank you 😊👌
Great series.
thank you for your appreciation
Amazing work! I also have a GH5s and make movies. I never thought about using it for a movie though. I would love to see a video on how you color graded your movie so well. I'm guessing you shot in 23.97fps? Or 24p? thanks Ping, very inspiring
hi, yes, shot in 24fps and grade with Davinci. Thank you for watching and support, as well as the idea, I will make a movie about grading this film in the near future. thank you very much again
@@pinghungwong9732 Looking forward to it thanks Ping!!
@@ReviewPost my pleasure and thanks again for your support
I watched both videos on the GH5S review. You did an amazing job in doing so. I also read that you paired it with the Rokinon cine lenses and a Metabones speedbooster. Which Metabones did you use, the .71x or the .64x? Also, with a Metabones, can the GH5S achieve a Super 35 look?
Another question: does the GH5S shoot at true 24 frames or just 23.98?
I am making another review about GH5s' settings and other equipment I used in the movie and it is coming. BTW, the Metabones I used is 0.64x and then the crop factor is 1.2, wider than the Super 35. and the GH5s shoot true 24fps. actually, a really nice filming tool. thank you very much for watching and support. and feel free to have any questions. thx
@@pinghungwong9732 Thank you for sharing your expertise and knowledge, I found your channel by accident and I'm glad that I did it. I'm looking for info to compare between the GH5S, the BGH1 and the S1H. I have my doubts about the last not because of its quality but the price. I had the chance to test it and fell in love with her, but is quite expensive. For the price of the S1H body, I could buy the GH5S and a set of Rokinon lenses (plus a little more for the speedbooster), so, I'm really considering the GH5S, but want to be sure before doing such investment. Your videos really helped me a lot!
@@yezhacker I've done a test by comparing the S1H and GH5s, and I will post the film later. I found that GH5s gets very very similar performance as S1H. and I will say that the best advantage of S1H over GH5s is, S1H can shoot RAW. But if you don't need RAW, GH5s definitely is a very attractive option. thank you again
@@pinghungwong9732 Thank you too, I'll be waiting for those videos :)
Hi...great job. Beautiful images!
Could you tell me which lenses you used on the GH5s? I bought one and have no experience. If you can guide me which lens to buy, I am very grateful. At first it would be just a lens, due to the high price here in Brazil. Something like a 12-35mm 2.8 or clearer. Thank you!
Sure and it's my pleasure. For this movie, I used the Samyang (Rokinon) Cine series lenses. They are Cine lens and with manual focus. But if you just want one first, the Lumix 12-35 2.8 of course is a good choice. I suggest you try one more cheap but good lens, the Lumix 25mm 1.7, a fast lens for portrait and low light and with good bokeh. I am going to make an episode of other equipment I used in "Embrace". Thank you very much for your support.
@@pinghungwong9732 Thank you for your attention and also for the tips. I wish you success!
@@cwlacerda thank you and it's my pleasure
This is super interesting
Thank you very much
the shots look good! what lens or lenses did you use my friend?
I mainly used the Samyang (Rokinon) T1.5 Cine series with Metabones speed booster.
Why didn't you use Zcam E2 camera for your movie "EMBRACE"?
Answering a question of "why not" is quite complicated, because after "why not Zcam" then another may ask "why not ARRI", and then another ask "why not Canon"? Just the same way of deciding the camera and so, the simple answer is I strictly consider GH5S first because it is matching with the budget. And then I test it if it can satisfy my requirement. I don't try to think if Canon..., or Nikon..., or Zcam... can also do that and then I have to try to test them all in order to reach a decision...too complicated and also too slow. BTW, one of the main reasons I don't ever try to think about the Zcam is, it must be used with an external display...I prefer an all-in-one hybrid for this movie since one of the cameras will always sit on a gimbal. I prefer a simpler configuration. and thank you for your watching
@@pinghungwong9732 Thank you!!!!!
bmpcc has more dynamic range and is great codec on post ..
yes, Blackmagic has made very good cameras
Also, what lens did you use for your movie?
czcams.com/video/Y8LiwoYMmnU/video.html
I got another video to talk about the other equipment using in the movie, thank you for your support
this also looks like a good movie!
thank you very much
How can I watch this movie? Where can I watch it?
it seems still available on Apple TV, thank you for your support
Sir what do you think about Sigma FP? Cinema DNG Raw.
hi, I haven't tried the Sigma FP yet. but from the paper spec, I will say that it is a quite nice machine... plus today, I don't think there're still any bad cameras. the only difference is how do we explore their good point to compensate for their certain weaknesses...if any. and regarding DNG RAW...actually, I prefer this rather than the ProRes RAW since I can use DNG with Davinci Resolve. Plus, you may try to handle the DNG RAW with Lightroom also...it can give you another look compared to those from Davinci Resolve. Thank you very much
@@pinghungwong9732 thank you so much for the reply sir
@@MesaVerdeProductions thank you...it is my pleasure
were can i watch embrace ??? and which lenses did you used to shoot
this feature film ???
it will be released in HK this December. I mainly used the Samyang cine-series T1.5 lenses. and I am thinking about talking more about the other equipment involving in the movie. Thank you so much for your feedback and support
@@pinghungwong9732 plsss make a another video of using equipments in your beautiful Film 😊🙏🕉️
@@shiva6104 Sure, I am planning it. Thank you very much for your watching and support
I’m in Canada anyway to watch Embrace?
we will arrange with the distribution after HK released about the overseas screening. or there will be internet released. Thank you very much for your support
Found both a second hand gh5s and an open boxed Panasonic S5.
buy both
@@pinghungwong9732 I shall buy one. But with the Panasonic S5 I shall probably film in 10 bit HD as it only has a 30 minute recording time limit in 10 bit 4K and not in 10 bit HD.
@@ruff1draft great, that's a very good camera. I'm thinking owing one also
The Panasonic Gh5s is cheaper and I already have batteries for it. Hmm
@@ruff1draft yes, I've done a test for the GH5s to compare with an S1H, they have very similar performance
Name of the movie please ?
Hi, the movie is called "Embrace". But no international released yet! thank you very much
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Thank you
Name of the movie ?
Hi, the movie is named "Embrace", but no international or web released yet. thank you
Which lenses have you used with gh5s?
The Samyang Cine T1.5. 24mm, 50mm, 85mm, 14mm gets only T3.1., and thanks for watching
@@pinghungwong9732 oh Crazy. The image looks really nice. I never thought that u use the samyang lenses. Thanks for your answer 👌
@@hiekischhildebrandt yes, Samyang and thanks for your support
Name of the movie
"Embrace"....but no international release yet. thx thx
You have had a haircut
yes, shorter than expected
Where can I buy your film on DVD is it going to be released to buy on YesAsia.com
HK's cinemas were locked down right now. my film should be released this month in HK. so, overseas released has to wait a moment after HK's screening. thank you very much for your support
Is the film released on Blu ray yet
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