GH5's Hidden setting for highest video quality (Almost like RAW)
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In this video, I want to show you a hidden codec inside the GH5 that gives you the best image quality from your camera. This codec is the new h265 codec that shows the whole sensor. With carefully use this can be used to replace RAW photos and get amazing stills. This codec feels like shooting RAW sometimes. I'll show you how to post process this codec and how to activate it in your camera.
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HLG in 6K anomorphic works very well comparing to other codecs. Super clear of noise image which makes GH5 really good even in 2022.
Hey I just wanted to say that this video has literally changed everything, I wanted my work to have that quality it was missing. And that's due to my own lack of knowledge but after putting your advice to use it's already improved so much and just wanna say thank you for all the information, I appreciate it tremendously. 🙌🏼
I feel like a lot of the negative comments about Joo "lying" MUST stem from either jealousy or just plain hate. This man's footage looks amazing in EVERY video; definitely better than many other CZcamsrs. His processes don't matter if the results are desirable. If you don't like his content, just stay off of his channel.
Brilliant! As ever! I've learned something new and useful every single one of your videos, and your subscriber count shows the world agrees! Keep up the good work, man...that's already eight and a half thousand sets of skills you've improved.
Chuba Chidebelu that's actually a nice way to put it! Thanks.
It's the truth!
Thanks for pointing out the hidden codec for the GH5, and for also taking the time to show us how to use it, how to get around problems when saving it and which file to convert it to in order to keep the 10 bit information. I read through the comments below and regardless of what constitutes a RAW file, I took a lot away from this video in regards to the "open gate" codec within the GH5.....HOW TO USE IT....and why you would not want to!
I love how you are always digging deeper into the GH5 and finding cool ways to make it do what no one else has discovered! Thanks so much for this and all your vids!
I didn't know about this codec! I'll definitely check it out
Dude this video rocks! always nice to see people pushing the bounderies of what our cameras can do.
I will definitely be trying this out! Thanks man!
Thanks for sharing! I use the GH5 for my kids videos. But I would love to try this...
Very interesting. I actually heard from a reviewer awhile back that the "6K" mode rendered color much more closely to the photo side of the GH5. This video confirms that reviewers observation.
Awesome tutorial. Very informative. Thank you.
Very nice tutorial. THx for sharing your knowledge! What are the Spcs for your laptop? Sounds like a beast?
congratulation..you found the 6K photo mode.
hahaha
Wow, I had no idea. Great find!
its my macbook pro screen, or it's a bit to red? The skin?
The grading in the video looks fantastic, I wonder if I can get a similar result on my G85?
Thanks for this, interesting stuff. I only have a GH5s so the resolution is lower, but it's still a cool feature.
It just occurred to me another reason to shoot in open gate is the ease of repurposing for different platforms - square, 16:9, 9:16 etc. Several Z-Cam users are now doing this, finding open gate gives lots of possibilities in post.
I'll definitely give this a try, thanks again.
The dedication to your grandfather is sweet and loving. Nice.
This would be helpful if you'd have a codec comparison for videos with different compression regarding the details, smooth & natural image movement, color grading artefacts and highlights/shadows recovery. Otherwise, giving up on stabilization, cropping the video and transcoding need serious reason quality wise . There are also samples on youtube with the 6k photo mode isn't this the same thing?
Great video. You know a lot of really detailed stuff.
Can you compare against the regular recording? In the regular codec?
i used my nx1 with h265 on adobe for 2 years. no issues at all, might just take a bit longer to edit but it pretty ok
Dude really appreciate your time and effort. Excellent video.
Thanks for telling.
I love the look of the video! Amazing!
Thanks for sharing the event relating to your Grandfather.
Do not always agree with what you say, but a noble thing to share out
Russtafa B different opinions and thinking will make us all richer. :-) thanks for telling.
Hi. I like your video. I have question wish is better gh5s or gh5ii for making short movie ?!!
This is really interesting! The colors in the test shots were amazing!! I'd be interested to see a side by side comparison of skin tones with standard V-Log vs. using this codec
So by using this codec you preserve the higher resolution of the sensor (but then crop it and thus ending up not preserving it), you drop the more detailed color information of 4:2:2 back to 4:2:0, and go from All-I to long gop, but then get the benefit of recording with a more efficient codec with much better compression. Correct?
If so, I am still a little confused about how that would be beneficial when shooting a narrative film project, considering the disadvantages of the 4:2:0 color and having to go back to long gop (which I have been so happy to no longer use). What am I missing?
Even when cropped the resolution is +0,298% and when-when you add up all the Lab channels of the 402 resolution you get about the same amount of pixels stored (97,5%). Then because it's h265, you get twice as good (according to some sources) compression, but the codec needs to compress more pixels (2,253X). So you can't really know for sure based on theory which is better, now can you?
So that's why I tested and saw a nice boost in details and sharpness the colour look bit better and so on.
How do you see the difference of all-I and long gop? I did tests and I simply can't find the difference. It edits faster but other than that. :-/ Can you help me? And I do understand the theory of all-I, I'm not interested in that, only about practical and tested differences that can be seen. So if you happy with all-I how is it diffrent?
Joo.Works, thanks for your reply! Yes, I do see a very noticeable difference when using the all-I codec, specifically when there is fast movement in the Shot, such as with camera movements (requiring many areas of the picture to update at the same time). The All-I codec does not produce blocky compression artifacts, while the long-gop does. As a result, the All-I footage ends up looking more natural and organic, and less digital.
I should run some test again. I did test with quick pans, but was not able to see the difference. Now I wanna try again. :-D Thanks for the info.
The initial video itself looks beautiful.
What about framerate? The anamorphic modes suggest they only work for 29.97/23.98 fps, rather than the 60fps 4:2:2 4k that comes out the HDMI side of the camera when hooked up to an Atomos Ninja Inferno.
So, what memory card should I use for this? Is it possible to use UHS-I? Can a memory card become unusable from this? Thanx!
is really touching.....What kind of lens you have used?
Raw isn´t about sharpness. It´s about data. You can try to recover lost data in highlights with your h265 video... Good luck!
try recover lost data with your Raw video....good luck... - make no sense that statement.
@@Arvidje you can do that in raw.. bruh
@@imabigsandwich1292 lost=lost i quess. Yes you have much more room with raw, its basically not processed, but if your sensor is overexposed and can't handle more light, u don't have that data.
@@Arvidje Have you ever heard about highlight recovery, and the option to literally lower the iso and up the shutter speed in some raw format? yeah.
@@imabigsandwich1292 Surei am a professional videographer. Once something reaches maximum brightness (which can happens very quickly) , thats it - all further image data is lost (highlight clipping no matter its raw) Don't think everything is magic with raw.
this is beautiful
Great video - by the way - do you usually use Photoshop for grading your videos? What software would you recommend to a beginner with some experience in iMovie?
Hey, try the free version of DaVinci Resolve by BlackMagic
Thank you for that suggestion. In fact I did already download it a while ago but did not yet make my way through... can you recommend a good tutorial?
Not sure what settings I am supposed to use. MOV AVCHD, etc?
Im thinking of picking this up. What are the file sizes for each format. Say like 1 minute of DCI 4K 60p ? How much space does it take on disk ? .....................
Is there some location where they give a chart of the file sizes for each format and resolution of this camera ? And will the files edit smooth (timeline scrubbing) on a Ryzen 5 3800 ?
Nice find. Although not as good as RAW, especially for highlight, shadow recovery in video stills - although its a great find and useful if needing to extract stills from a video though.
Solid comparisons!
Amazing videos thank you
i like your video dude, thanks !
Does it work on Davinci resolve now? I saw you mention it at 3:15. Curious to try this out.
A real test of how 'RAW' this codec is would be to take overexposed footage (or underexposed) and see how much information can be salvaged. I saw a demonstration of ProresRAW and it was amazing. When you say 'almost like RAW' I wonder about that. Can you do a test like that ?
Anglo Dutch sounds like a video worth doing. I just migth... Let's see. :-D thanks for the idea!
Awesome Codec
So this is basically shooting in the Anamorphic mode? Aside from deactivating the stabilization, are there any other settings to use? (And does it shoot in 8-bit or 10 bit?)
Brian Siano none that I know off. There is 8bit codecs as well, but I don't see the point of not using 10bit. :-)
Good vid I subbed cool style well spoken
I own a GH5s. Can you make a tutorial video on achieving almost like RAW quality if using a GH5s?
Why do you like your previews on apple prores?
Though this is a good idea the work around to process it I feel is too much work. Hopefully soon they add an actual raw recording feature especially with the new pro ress raw coming out soon 🔥🔥
from what I've been following the problem is getting the signal across HDMI for the GH5. But its why I'm super excited for the new Black Magic Pro 4K
erich ly what up with that cam and how is it better than gh5? He is able to shoot 6k your talking about 4k
TheHitBrainiac I wouldn’t say it’s better than a GH5 in all aspects, (I shoot a GH5 too and I love the camera) but the Black Magic Pocket records directly to Apple Prores or to RAW with no external recorder needed. Feature for feature it’s looking like a very amazing camera and at a very affordable price to top it all off for smaller creators like me. Definitely look it up!
erich ly absolutely your right about the pro res part I hope pans sonic updates that
TheHitBrainiac that would be awesome if they did
Any links to windows programs for 265.
I love the video!!! Why not just create proxy straight from Premier?
Edit ready is 4x faster on my laptop.
Great music!
what video editing software are you using in this video?
Very interesting concept. Aside from the extra time and effort of transcoding, I have to wonder if this 6K footage would look better than 4K from the same camera. The GH5 records 6K in 4:2:0 and 200mbs verus 4K in 4:2:2 and 400mbs - plus you are cropping the 6K image. It sounds like it would be a wash, as far as image quality. But I may make a camera test to see for myself. Thanks for suggestion.
Just bought the GH5 (long time GH4/GH2/GH1 user) and I appreciate your videos. Bought the Color Kit to support you and give me more LUTs in my arsenal. Anyway, I'm trying to figure out how to select this setting correctly. Maybe I'm missing something, because I choose the 6K 200M Option in the anamorphic menu. But then when I go into "Rec Format" only MP4 (LPCM) is available. MP4 HVEC is greyed out.
I want to follow up on my own question, in case anyone else is wondering. After bringing the footage into Premiere and looking at its properties, it turns out that yes, when you choose 6K 10 bit, it does indeed record in the HVEC (H.265) codec, even though that doesn't appear to be what's indicated on the "Rec Format" menu.
thx dude
@@RedtailMediaPro thanks helpful even now!
I like your videos and ideas, any chance you could go a little deeper in the details and do comparisons with the 400mbps codec? i'd like to see how much better the H265 looks and figure out why exactly? Because it should look worse in theory, cropped 16x9 200mbps is like a 150mbps h265 vs 400mbps h264?
Robert good idea. I'll do something like that soon.
Not sure if its really much better than H264 4k. RAW gives you about 2 more stops of dynamic range and is still noticeably sharper as can seen by the eye test.
Comparison between normal h264 codec and this would be good, because in my opininion you can bring the normal codec with sharpening and so on to the Level like the raw stills, so no benefit here, but if you would push the video stills like the Raw stills (which is what you normaly do!) they will fall apart very soon !! To say its almost like raw is just not true until you proof it !!
MMOTION didn't I just do a video where I show you how the raw and the still corpares? Or did you mean to do a stress test on how much can one push the video still? That's a good idea. Thanks.
Joo.Works jes a stress test because you now the video still and the raw is on the same level. Normally you would push or you can push the raw in Post very heavy without quality loose. The Video still will crush very soon i think but i will try it myself ;)
MMOTION yes, raw does it theory have more flex to it, but let's try it out in practice. :-D maybe a new video about it. :-D
That's exactly what i was thinking. RAW is not at all about image quality. It is about the amount of sensor data it can retain, therefore how much you can get from a file in post. The practical image quality can be great with or without RAW, whereas the flexibility you have in post, strictly depends on RAW. H.265 is still a playback codec so i doubt it comes even close to RAW in the mentioned terms. Thanks for the tips though!
So the h.265 codec has less information than the h.264 codec, a higher compression level of 420 compared to 422 in the h.264. So... it's actually LESS like raw, yeah?
Micah Lindstrom theory vs. practice again? :-D But this time theory is on the codec's side. It's 200mbps long gop and 402, so it's a rather high bit rate combined with most effective compressions there is. H265 is said to be about 2x more effective to h264 so it would be about 400mbps as h264. Then it's long gop, so as a h264 all-I it would be about 800mbps. And as 402 it saves 1\3 of the brandwidth, as 422 it would be maybe "I don't know". Sounds good right? And you can see the proof in the pudding. Or you wanna stay in theory land? ;-)
And to be clear h265 has twice as much info as h264 (Depending on who sais that) the reason is mostly (as I have understood it) that h265 has much more advance macroblocking compession than h264.
h265 has a smoother and more relative compression, h264 has a more blocky compression. if youtube adopted h265 I would be happy, but not everyone has a powerful cpu/gpu
But if your going to crop out 25% for a 16x9 frame, what you got left is effectively at 150mbps H265 right?
Detail is one thing, but that has no relationship to raw. It's simply 'less compression errors'. The difference between raw and compressed codecs really isn't 'HOW COMPRESSED IS IT', it's 'WHERE IS THE DATA COMING FROM'. RAW: the data is being pulled from direct sensor data (compressed or not, ie compressed raw or uncompressed raw). But with compressed codecs of ANY form, the image has already been debayered and processed and THEN COMPRESSED. So h.265 has a specific data rate and it retains more INFORMATION from the debayering, but does that make it anything like raw where the data is coming directly from sensor data? Nope. Not in the slightest. In the end I would argue that h.265 in its current form in the GH5 is not really much better in any way over the long gop 422. They're extremely similar with the h.264 having slightly more color data and the h.265 having fewer compression errors.
And I don't appreciate how critical you get of people that disagree with you. "Stay in the land of theory?". You've got a ton of comments echoing my sentiment. h.265 is nothing like raw, both in theory and in practice. It's not more like raw than long gop 422. They're a tradeoff of the same method of capturing the image. If you want to go with 'the proof is in the pudding', people who know how to use raw (and those who want to learn) will and should go get a camera that shoots raw. That's the proof because h.265 is nothing like raw.
Maybe learn how to respond to your critics better and you'll have more fans.
Thanks for this. Why can't one use Adobe Media encoder to transcode?
Sure you can. On my computer based with a quick tests the editready is just 4x faster.
Can't wait to dive into this! Yet another reason why the GH5, in my book, is like the Swiss Army Knife of cameras. I love it! Appreciate you offering these tests and samples that save others, like me, so much time and money. By the way your funeral footage looked stunning! It was the reason why I watched the entire video!
Very interesting. Good job. Just mind you that colour is pronounced culler, not coller.
Could you make a video how to setup Davinci project for working with HLG footage, pleaes?
That I would need to learn my self first. :-D But not bad idea at all actually.
Yes, I purchased your kit, and the process is straight forward. The problem is whether my environment is setup correctly, and it seems I cannot find the info on this. For example, what should be settings if one works with HDR monitor and uses your kit, and what if one uses regular monitor with your kit process.
Thanks and cheers!!!
So, if I am not mistaking it is the MP4(LPCM) Format, with the 6K 200M Rec Quality in Anamorphic mode, and V-log. Does the Frequency matter? 24,50,59.94?
hzubovi1 yes, it's that codec. I have not tested the effect of frequences. :-\
Thank you, love the image you got.
One more question, how did you grade the footage?
Colour correction kit for the gh5 I use it almoast all the time. joo.works/colour-kit-gh5
Thanks Joo. Awesome stuff as always...I really appreciate your very clear tutorials.
Not tested is it really good to me, but I trust in you! thank you Joo.
Chi Artbe do test it before using it in anything serious. :-D
Joo am I able to get this quality with my Panasonic Gh5s and Panasonic s1
I don't have either of those cameras, but looking at the specs... Yes.
@@JooWorks Ok thanks
🤠🎥👍 Great stuff!
Good to see some pro tutorials from people who know what they do! thank you
i dont see 6k option in my menu. this is seems unreal. i have gh5s and there is no 6k option in anamorphic mode
What camera you shot this video with???
is there more DR on this? or is it the same as usual vlog?
Rizal Wy it has a bit better noiselevel, so one could argue that it has bit more dr, but not much.
"Hey Mates" Love the start........
Never would have thought to shoot anamorphic for open gate images 🤯
I did drool over some lenses back in the day, but I'm not so interested anymore. :)
Great..
went to the vault what do i download whats the files name
Beyond The Block try again. I for got to put the file there. :-\ it's in a hiden codec folder.
thanks for answering .i think screen calibration will solve the problem.just my opinion. thanks
Yes, it's important, but there is the fact that different programs use different colour spaces. for example premiere displays P3, but outputs sRGB... :-/
Do you still need to shoot with V-LOG?
The codec works with any colour profile.
That's some really cool footage. I realize that must be your family, I can't imagine someone allowing you to film their procession. I can see that as some mafia b-roll or something..."Hey Vinny, are we gonna get da mooks that capped Lenardo? Sleep well my sweet prince..." I think you can burst shoot at 6k. Maybe a tutorial on how that is done would be nice.
You are getting more resolution out of the image this way but you aren't getting a RAW flexibility as in the shadows and highlights will not adjust like a RAW photo will.
mbickerdike17 what does that mean? Are you talking about the local adjustement that adobe camera raw uses?
Joo.Works Right, the Shadows and Highlights won't behave as they would in a RAW image which is the main reason to use raw. Your method here is still pretty cool.
Joo I want to use this settings on the Panasonic S5
Check this one instead: jooworks.mykajabi.com/advanced-color-grading I'm replacing all my old products with this.
Ok I shall look at this.
Dear joo {i think ur name} why red colour too much prominent in ur edit. Any special reason Kindly tell. thanks
Mahender K Sharma well there might be many reasons, but one is that I`m not a colorist, just a colour nerd :-D one thing that I`m currently trying to do is to get somekind of colour management system set up from end to end that will take the guessing game... my new computer`s dci p3 gamut is giving me problems. :-D
i will definitely use it for my films.... CZcams... same 4k is good
Very nice. Thanks for letting us know.
enx bro for your insights, though some say the theories you give are lies...and am not much of a camera setting guy...so by judging the results you shot by what i see with my eyes, they are fantastic i will try to follow those settings and learn something new
I cheat, I fake, I have no respect for traditions.. :-D the end result is the only one that matters.
Some do say that I'm not telling the truth... I'm really open for critic, but just someone saying "that's a lie!"... I can't do anything with that. I need proof. With proof I'll change my opinion immediatly.
Another super interesting video @Joo.Works ! The comment on 8:01 is pretty much why your channel is awesome...really shows how intimately you know the GH5!!
Great to know that there are some who apreciate these nerd details. :-D
Joo.Works does this hidden codec which in the GH5 is it in the GH5s.
What laptop do you use?
Timothy Higinbottom my curent computer is mac book pro 15 late 2017.
Your claim that it is almost like RAW still, is convincing to me. Do you know whether this feature will still work with firmware 2.3
Thanks
Will it work with the gh4? Because it doesnt have the option for 6k
I doubt it. On the gh4 there is not the h265 codec. There is the anamophic mode as well, but it's not 10 bit even. :-/
Unfortunately no, it won't. The GH4 maxes out its resolution and codec performance at 4k h.264 420. There is a 4k anamorphic mode, but you will have very similar performance with either resolution. The best way to improve the GH4 performance is to use the 10-bit output and record with an external monitor/recorder in 422 10-bit. Definitely improves the GH4 image in a lovely way.
and on the GH5S?
Wow, so much salt in the comments... Great videos dude, keep it up. Happy to see your channel growing. For anyone looking for a windows solution to encode h.265, take a look at FFmpeg.
Event??????
Can you use this for gh4?
No, they don't have h.265 for the gh4, and they most likely won't.
Hmm.. I don't know if the 4k photo mode is any better in the gh4 than normal video. Test it out, it's the only way to know.
Does it shoot 5k 60fps
FESTIVISION STUDIOS nope, but you can shoot 4k at 60fps in this 4\3 mode, but I have not compared the quality,
The main advantage of shooting real RAW is that you can adjust the white point LATER and that you can apply a nice picture profile, i.e. the interpretation of the sensor data, LATER.
It is hard to believe that a lossy consumer codec H265 should be closer to RAW than a less lossy codec like ALL I 400 or external Prores 422 HQ?? Does anybody know?
H265 is not "more lossy" it's more efficent. It has a bigger library of macroblocs to choose from allowing for less data to create the same image. Like you can explain something faster if you use task related tems instead of simple english and define all new words.
If white point means white balance, that can be fixed with log as well with usable results. And if you have a good enough codec the ISO change can be mimiced in post with log as well. Applying a new log profile is possible as well, but again bit less accurate. But RAW codecs won't make a canon raw to be possible to turn into log-c either with the original arri colours, either.
This h265 codec is better that h264, but not as good as raw codec of course.
@@JooWorks Yes, "white point" = "white balance". Some confusion is hidden in your phrase "usable results". AFAIK, this depends on taste and can be problematic.
Raw data has no video processing, so no user decisions, no mistakes are baked into it. Great! But nobody can see a RAW as a picture and file size is huge. Bad! As soon as you want to look at your Raw data on a monitor, you have to make artistic decisions on how to translate these RAW data into a picture. Once you "print" your settings into a video file you make your decisions irreversible and bake it in. The good thing is: this video file is now much smaller in size than your raw data set is. But you lose something - you can never go back. This is regularly overlooked.
Here the biggest issue happens. Log -like ANY other video file that a monitor can show-has decisions like white balance (WB) already calculated into it - a process that can mathematically NOT, i.e. NEVER, be undone. And this can ruin your career. This means WB decisions can NEVER be undone once your footage was saved as a video file (being it log or else) - we can only try to hide WB mistakes making it less obvious via grading - and hoping that the artifacts of grading - which are a direct consequence - are not too bad. Additionally - and very few people are aware of that - Raw still contains all (444) color information. Log profiles usually throw color away, i.e., compress color to 422. RAW and Log are very much NOT the same; however, they’re both designed to get the most information out of the sensor. Raw is getting EVERYTHING the sensor has to offer; likewise, Log curves are designed to get at least the most tonal range out of the sensor (but cross fingers that WB etc is acceptable).
In order to really dive into the matter I can recommend the following article - very readable - non scientific - but still correct: www.hdvideopro.com/workflow/capture-workflow/formats-explained/
medium.com/@jasonzhang_22759/some-thoughts-on-log-curve-color-correction-white-balance-and-exposure-adjustment-e3613fc4f8cf
From that article:
"If you think it’s a challenging task to do WB adjustment for non-RAW footage, convert them to linear space and do it there. You would be amazed. Accurate color adjustment would only be possible if it’s in the linear space. It is no mystery."
Try it out! It's really handy. Feels like working with RAW.
@@JooWorks In that article that you cite, we should be aware of the following:
converting a video back to a so called "linear space" is a nice sounding way of saying that we now try our very best to UNDO the baking-in of a (log, natural, portrait, cine, ...) profile and white point/ISO by dividing the data exactly by the applied profiles again and hope we end up with raw again. ;-)
This is in principle the right idea for better white point adjustments and indeed should lead to improved (while still not accurate) results in post!
Please be aware that since any sensor is NEVER perfectly linear (what the author assumes) and that you always add an unknown constant and multiplier to the RAW sensor curves during white point adjustment and ISO amplification for every color there are more unknowns than knowns in this equation. You cannot reverse engineer the perfect raw data.
@@iregre7579 You are correct.
One area for sure in the comparison that was noticable was the Wood grain. The right photo has a severe lack of detail. H.265 is heavily compressed but very efficiently compressed when compared to H.264. I agree an H.264 in 10-bit compared to H.265 and a RAW would have been a good comparison. Those images up close definitely suffer from the GH5's 20MP resolution limits. If you were to compare to a Full frame sensor we'd be seeing a lot more resolution, contrast and sharpness. In photos i think good contrast values, higher resolution, color reproduction are important. I don't think many professionals are going to consider using the GH5 for taking photo's. I've used it for stills but find that its a much better video camera than it is a stills camera. What Lens was this taken with? Was a speedbooster used or not?
Even though I'm windows based, I'm going to try this, but here's my problem here: That anamorphic codec encode 4 K footage at 400Mbps. Why would it be better than the FHD 24P encoding at 200Mbps available on the GH5. Do the math, on the GH5 FHD 24 P @ 200Mbps is the highest bitrate available in that camera. It's about data relative to frame size, and nothing beats the FHD 24P on the GH5. Sure, the GH5 is marketed as a 4K cam, but unfortunately the 400Mbps second of its 4K mode are just used to make sure all I-frames are encoded. As I said, do the math yourself, nothing beats the data, available to the 10 bit 4:2:2 FHD @ 200Mbps and that's the only mode you should used if you are worried about preserve color quality. Sure, 4 K has better resolution.....maybe.....on the right screen. 4 K is four times bigger than FHD, so if you think 4 K encoded at 400 Mbps and 4:2:0 is better in anyway, other than marginal resolution than FHD encoded at 4:2:2 and 200Mbps, well, do more home work and come back. Do be as decent as color space your GH5 4K should be encoded at 4:2:2 800Mbps. It doesn't take a genius to realize why it's not done. As far as I'm concerned, after shooting RAW you never look back.
This doesn't address the fact that you should be shooting photos and video separately. If you're offering your clients photo + video without a second shooter you're giving them an inferior product. There's no doubt that you've lost detail in the video stills, not to mention it all looks like screenshots of video because they're not well composed single moments in time. It's just spray and praying video.
I don't shoot event's anymore, so don't take my advice for the busines side of event shooting. :-D but would it not be best practice to take as much care for video shooting as you would photos?
Dude... no LOL
They are two different disciplines that require a different approach. And as evident by your video you didn't add any extra effort because you were going to use the video as stills. You just made a video and got crappy stills from it.
Ah. I like it when you try to provoce me. Or is this just how you communicate? Any way... yes you are correct photography and videography are visuallu different, but migth not need to be. I still think one should give as much attention to video as to photos. If you think my "photos" aren't any good, I sure you that the composition wouldn't have impoved if I had shot the event as raw stills. :-D
Did I miss something? When did he say to use video to capture photos for clients? I thought he was just comparing the quality of video you can get, using this new codec, to capturing on RAW.
Nathaniel Garcia this even was the funeral of my grandfather and my family asked me to take few photos. I took video and gave them still from the video. Everyone was happy. :-)
We will try it in a real life first, and then let you know what we think about that secret thing inside GH5...
Whit my gh4 i can do this ?
I don't know. Wanna test and report back here? There is the 4K photomode, but does it have better image quality?